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Topic: Dlite routine
Message: Posted by: Aroy (Jan 31, 2004 06:04AM)
What would the ideal length of a D'Lite routine be?

ROY
Message: Posted by: maylor (Jan 31, 2004 01:39PM)
Depends how well you do it I guess. Seriously though, I'm not sure, never even given it a go, anybody else?
Message: Posted by: boltt223 (Jan 31, 2004 03:35PM)
I currently use the music from pilot, the song "Magic".. I think it is about 3 minutes long. Of course I use two D'lites and interact with props on stage as well as dance. :smiles:
Message: Posted by: Magic_streak (Feb 1, 2004 01:45AM)
I think a good length will be 30s to 1min if you are doing a silent act with just music. Personally I use a Blendo Bag to end my routine (a dazzling WOW!) but I'm sure you can think of other ways. D'rose? Red confetti or snowstorm?

The routine shouldn't be too long if you are just using two lites as it'll only be a matter of time when someone finds out what they are. Everyone will be subconsciously burning your thumbs.

If you are doing an act where you walk around and talk, maybe tell a story, then you can lengthen your performance time as you are moving around a lot and people will not see the tips.

Hope this helps~! :coolspot:
Message: Posted by: Aroy (Feb 2, 2004 07:15AM)
Thanks for the input guys.

I think I may be shooting for about a minute.
Just need to work out a really interesting routine
for this.

Oh, I make it sound oh so easy :) !

ROY
Message: Posted by: DougTait (Feb 2, 2004 07:07PM)
My first (and only) D'lite routine was to the "Electric Slide" some years ago. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but did not go over well. Why?

1. Wrong audience
2. Too long - Ran almost 2 minutes
3. Did not prepare (practice) enough.
4. Tried to force a style that isn't mine.

I learned a valuable lesson though. Don't try to include an effect that doesn't fit in your act just because you think it's cool. (My audience didn't!)
Message: Posted by: Leland (Feb 8, 2004 08:27PM)
I use them with my kids routine. I think they don't burn the thumbs as well as adults do. My routine is about 1min long. Any longer than that and I find I am just repeating what I have already done. Wow them and get out!
Message: Posted by: Eirik (Feb 19, 2004 04:50AM)
I've also performed in a kids routine,
I brought the birthday boy forward and got him to help me with my act, guess it lasted for 40 sec.
And that was long enough for that setting.
-e-
Message: Posted by: zombieboy (Feb 19, 2004 05:41AM)
Jeff McBride has a great routine that is about three minutes long.
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Feb 19, 2004 01:07PM)
Just keep in mind that if you do not add variety and interest to the routine, it will get boring real fast to your audience. The audience sees a light produced and then vanished, anything more without variety, becames redundant to them. Just something to keep in mind.


Kyle
Message: Posted by: Brent McLeod (Feb 26, 2004 05:01PM)
Roy-
Ideal length of routine-

My own Cabaret show in which I use this to music using 2 red D'Lites in low lighting about 60-70 secs finishing with a silk streamer -ala David Ginn.

Surprisingly on stage as mentioned 1 min is long enough-wow them then finish!!

-Brent
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Feb 26, 2004 09:01PM)
Gotta chime in, here...

I'm with Doug Tait on this one. I tried and tried...thought I was pretty good at it, too...it did not work. I was told to, "lose the light-up th***s, everyone has a TT these days..." Wow. That from a supposed layman!

Lately, though, I did a little gig for my girlfriend's granddaughter (while the ladies were doing each other's hair!)...little 8 year old was delighted (pun intended, theng kyew!)...she still talks about it.

Perfect for little children. I may do it again for her (and the other little rugrats).

Lesson learned. When...where...and why...most important words before "how" in magic. :bg:

Doug
Message: Posted by: silverfire9 (Feb 27, 2004 01:46AM)
I just had an idea that's probably been done before (what hasn't, really?). What about producing a light, putting it in your empty left fist, repeatedly, sort of like a D'Lite Miser's Dream, then reveal several red sponge balls in your fist? Or reveal something else that makes sense? As much sense as anything impossible can make, that is, lol.

Another thought, along the exact same lines: if you're doing this on stage, why not produce a red dove at the end? If that's your style, that is. ;)

As for how I actually use them currently, well, I mainly use them in very short bursts. I don't do a long routine with them; I keep it to a couple appearances and vanishes, then end it. I've been resorting to pretending to put the light in the spectator's eyes, hands, whatever, so as to make a more dramatic "this is the end" feeling. I feel the end of the routine needs to be somewhat different from the rest; otherwise, it can have an anti-climactic feeling.
Message: Posted by: Michael Bourada (Mar 17, 2004 12:46AM)
I do a routine using the d'lite devices and it runs 3 and half minutes long. Its done with music. I recommend watching Rocco and his routine.
Message: Posted by: zombieboy (Mar 17, 2004 05:24AM)
Where would one see Rocco and his routine?
Message: Posted by: Fast Eddie P. (Mar 19, 2004 10:08AM)
Along those lines, where would one see the McBride routine?
Message: Posted by: zombieboy (Mar 19, 2004 02:01PM)
McBride's routine is in his show, The Secret Art, which is, unfortunately, not touring any time soon. However, he performs variations on it frequently at the Vegas Magic center, and at his home for whoever happens to stop by. However, the full act is his opener in his show. It is by far the greatest D'Lite routine ever devised. He uses canes, fans, floating lights and even his mouth in the routine.
Message: Posted by: Fast Eddie P. (Mar 19, 2004 10:54PM)
Wow, that sounds awesome. Too bad he doesn't have it on any of his teaching videos.
Message: Posted by: Michael Bourada (Mar 19, 2004 11:01PM)
You can purchase the Rocco Video, ask your magic dealer about it. It is an older tape but nonetheless helpful. Also it includes rocco's light routine.
Message: Posted by: louisruiz (Mar 20, 2004 08:03AM)
My routine lasts about 30 to 40 seconds and everyone I've performed it for loves it! I even do some comedy moves that goes over well.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Faith (Mar 23, 2004 12:43AM)
I have a avoided a routine using Dlites.
I work in a magic shop some on the side and way too many people know of these.
They sell them to everyone at the mall.

Instead of trying to use a routine. I use them in small bits added in to other routines.

What would really be cool is if the light was produced and you go about your routine and you finish it off by letting go of the light and it floats away.
Now that's cool!
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Mar 23, 2004 07:04AM)
What I often see is that Dlite routines lack any sense of logic or routining at all. In many cases they become a guy or gal standing up there showing off. The stuff becomes redundant too fast and after 2 or 3 vanishes, it is the same exact thing again.

What we should learn to do is to use the Dlite as a simple gimmick that allows us to create a much more elaborate magical routine or experience.

If we can take the dlite and start to think of just what it really is in the minds of the audience, we can start to create some more intersting ideas.

To an audience, it appears as a manipulation of a light source of some sort. If we think this way, then why not allow this light to start from some place or some object that people in the audience can relate to.

Once we relate this to soemthing that is common for them, it stops becoming a magical prop and they can get into more. For example, this light could come from a light bulb.

Maybe the magician comes home from a long day and this lamp sits on his table. He falls asleep on the chair next to him and truns the light off. Just as he doses off the light comes back on. He unscrews the light bulb and polaces on table and falls asleep again. The blub lights up. The routine then becomes one of him fighting this light that keeps returning. He takes the light from the bulb and places in pocket only to have his pockets light up.

This fight ends up with him realizing that the light was his light of creativity and so he ends up letting it shine for the world to see.

This is just an example of how you could create a dlite routine but to make it into something much more entertaining that gives more to the audience.

Kyle
Message: Posted by: zombieboy (Mar 23, 2004 01:31PM)
In McBride's routine, he uses the presentation of how the lights are "ideas" and how he collects them. In the end, he puts all of the produced lights in a book, a closes it.

I always liked the idea of stealing the light from a laser pointer. I never developed this idea, however.
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Mar 23, 2004 02:09PM)
That is a perfect example of how a thought out routine can be much more interesting for an audience if you start thinking creatively with it.

Kyle