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Topic: Psychic Chess 2.0 by Brian Watson
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Feb 21, 2015 07:24AM)
I just received the new Psychic Chess 2.0 from Brian Watson. I was attracted to the quality and size of the props and the theme, which has always been a firm favourite for me. Brian's customer service is brilliant. The product shipped when it was supposed to, and it arrived promptly. You get nicely printed and durable plastic cards, which are thin and together stack to a thickness of about 1.5 credit cards. You get a prediction card and six chess piece cards, one for each of a Bishop, Knight, King, Pawn, Queen and Rook. You also get a great DVD with everything you need to know on it.

The effect involves the performer dealing the cards on the table and a participant moving an object over the cards several times as the performer eliminates the cards sight unseen. The participant is left with one card, which matches the prediction. They can start at any card and the performer knows not only which cards to eliminate but also ends the elimination with a perfect match of the prediction.

The principles involved are well known, but Brian has created the props in such a way to make this really straightforward to perform.

For those of you who like physical props (perhaps even aged ones), the routine and method can easily be used in that way. If, on the other hand, you want something to carry with you at all times, it fits neatly in your wallet and is ready to perform straightaway.

http://www.cupsandballsmagic.com/Psychic-Chess-2.0.html

Highly recommended.
Message: Posted by: caigy (Feb 21, 2015 10:24AM)
I like the look of this and Todd's recommendation is enough for me but is anyone else having problems activating the 'Here's a "no Frills" live demo!' and the 'UK and Europe' price and purchase icons on the website?

Paul Mc.
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Feb 21, 2015 11:13AM)
Well, Psychic Chess looks very worth using in some of my closeup performances, and I like the Chess premise, so I joined the stampede early and bought it. I had no trouble paying for it via PayPal. I watched a video on Brian's website, but it was just a promo; it did not show a performance of the effect.

George
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Feb 22, 2015 01:29AM)
He has a performance video there as well I believe...I love the idea that you can carry this one anywhere and use the same method with chess pieces....it links so well with other chess routines like Chess Match from www.trickshop.com and/or The Knight's Tour.....

Here's a direct link to a performance video

http://youtu.be/0D8Yrz2n530
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Feb 23, 2015 03:32PM)
Thank you very much Todd!

Paul, did you hit the paypal logo? I just tested it and it work fine my end....

Thanks for yuro support George! :)

Bri
Message: Posted by: wanderwizard (Apr 11, 2015 03:22PM)
Looks good for a quick one out of your wallet,is it this direct every time??☺
Message: Posted by: Lord Of The Horses (Apr 11, 2015 07:46PM)
[quote]On Apr 11, 2015, wanderwizard wrote:
Looks good for a quick one out of your wallet,is it this direct every time??☺ [/quote]

To the best of my knowledge, YES! ;)


And, Brian, lovely routine! I like it!

I even thought of an idea to make it GIGANTIC for a funny and upbeat stage performance.
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Apr 12, 2015 08:03PM)
This is a very good have-it-with-you-all-the-time effect. From several performances, two thoughts come to mind:

1. Be as sure as possible to choose a participant who can follow directions!

2. The performer may need to add one instruction to the directions in demonstrating the procedure. When you take one of the chess pieces, this can leave a gap between one piece and another. When the spectator next counts off (say) five moves, she MAY count the empty space left by a departed piece. So I will be adding to the directions and demo to "close the ranks" when a piece leaves the line.

I'd appreciate any reflection the rest of you have from performing it so far. And if I have misunderstood something, please protect me from further folly!

George
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Apr 13, 2015 05:31AM)
Yes wanderwizard, it's like that every time (which does mean that you wouldn't really want to repeat it obviously.)

Thank you very much LOTH! Doing that with gigantic chess pieces would be amazing! I have seen some at amusement parks etc, it would play very well... Now I wish I'd thought of it for the trailer!

George, thanks for you input, I agree with point 1, as with any mentalism type of effect, it's always important to choose someone who can follow instructions. However, your comment number 2, is incorrect. There are never any gaps EVER. That instruction. Nobody will EVER count an empty gap because there never will be one.

:) Bri
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Apr 13, 2015 09:20AM)
Thanks, Bri:

The one time it failed for me, then, was due to point one rather than two!

George
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Apr 13, 2015 06:15PM)
Was Dave Koenig credited on this.... Or Steinmeyer?
Message: Posted by: PsiDroid (Apr 13, 2015 06:33PM)
[quote]On Apr 13, 2015, Slim King wrote:
Was Dave Koenig credited on this.... Or Steinmeyer? [/quote]

why koenig ??
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Apr 14, 2015 06:22AM)
As you are already aware Slim with your communication with Todd, your effect is different, has a different method and mine was published 10 years before you state you started performing yours. I will not address this any more as it was already dealt with via email.
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Apr 14, 2015 10:03AM)
The effect I heard was a silver coin and four copper coins. Brian's routine is five chess pieces. David's routine is a position swap routine with a final revelation, Brian's is an elimination routine with a matching prediction. Both use math (psychically, of course!)...Brian's was published in 1995 and David has been doing his since 2005. These appear sufficiently different in provenance and effect to not warrant a credit in the way suggested above. I have emailed both Brian and David, so hopefully this will be settled. I think both routines are different and both are brilliant.
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Apr 14, 2015 10:32AM)
Use real people as chess pieces...
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Apr 14, 2015 11:14AM)
[quote]On Apr 14, 2015, cupsandballsmagic wrote:
As you are already aware Slim with your communication with Todd, your effect is different, has a different method and mine was published 10 years before you state you started performing yours. I will not address this any more as it was already dealt with via email. [/quote]

My mistake ... I thought that this was a new release . A five object divination. I had no idea it was released in 1995. I must have missed that. Do you have a link to that? .... I will am totally in the wrong if you released this 20 years ago!
In my version the volunteers make the moves and choose secret numbers so I don't know how many moves they have made. Does yours do this? Of course I don't want you to expose anything about your effect. I'll be the first to admit I was amiss once I chase down the release. My bad.
:sun:
Message: Posted by: Lord Of The Horses (Apr 14, 2015 11:16AM)
[quote]On Apr 14, 2015, JanForster wrote:
Use real people as chess pieces... [/quote]

Jan, exactly what I hinted above... ;)

My gigantic idea was PEOPLE compared to tiny pieces of cardboard, and I also have an idea for INCLUDING TWO OTHER PEOPLE beside the human chess pieces.
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Apr 14, 2015 11:21AM)
Thank you Slim. I'll PM you regarding the earlier publishing of this (yes it was 1995.)

In mine the moves are not secret numbers no, they are given by the performer. I'll PM you also about the math principle that differes between your and mine also as I don't want to expose either here.... :)

Bri
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Apr 14, 2015 11:36AM)
Thanks for the clarification!!!!!
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Apr 14, 2015 11:38AM)
[quote]On Apr 14, 2015, JanForster wrote:
Use real people as chess pieces... [/quote]

I LOVE that idea Jan!
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Apr 14, 2015 11:40AM)
[quote]On Apr 14, 2015, Lord Of The Horses wrote:
[quote]On Apr 14, 2015, JanForster wrote:
Use real people as chess pieces... [/quote]

Jan, exactly what I hinted above... ;)

My gigantic idea was PEOPLE compared to tiny pieces of cardboard, and I also have an idea for INCLUDING TWO OTHER PEOPLE beside the human chess pieces. [/quote]

Proof that we often stop thinking too soon!

I've just PM'd Slim about the history of my effect. It started off (circa 1990) on cassette tape. I had 2 cassettes and would switch depending on the chosen piece. I then streamlined and did away with the cassette. The main reason being that it made it obvious that the outcome was always the same. This was the published version, however there was memory work involved.

I then improved it further by totally eliminating any memory work and released it as Psychic Chess 2.0.

Now, even more great ideas are flowing thanks to everyone's input! I love it!

Bri
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Apr 14, 2015 11:41AM)
LOTH... Please could you PM me?
Thanks
Bri
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Apr 15, 2015 10:08AM)
Bri:

Regarding Jan's marvelous of using real people as the chess pieces, visibility would seem to require larger versions of the cards--say, 8" by 10", or even larger. Do you have plans to come out with a larger version of the props, or do we have clearance to make a larger set from what you sold us?

George
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Apr 15, 2015 10:37AM)
George,

It's designed as a mental effect that is always with you ready to go anywhere and so the cards fit into a single credit card slot in your wallet. If you wish to make a larger set up for your own performance and are not marketing or selling them then by all means do so. :)

Bri
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Apr 16, 2015 09:51AM)
Bri:

Thanks, may do.

George
Message: Posted by: Lord Of The Horses (Apr 21, 2015 09:21AM)
Either I miss something OR one can CHANGE the prediction each time, if one wants to!
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Apr 21, 2015 01:42PM)
You could... The memory hooks that are hidden in plain sight are for the set effect though, you'd have to alter the wording for the pieces.

Basically, once you have it down you could use anything. The only reason I use chess pieces is to set the scene that the mentalist is thinking several steps ahead of the participant. Like a grand master....
Message: Posted by: Lord Of The Horses (Apr 21, 2015 06:36PM)
[quote]On Apr 21, 2015, cupsandballsmagic wrote:
You could... The memory hooks that are hidden in plain sight are for the set effect though, you'd have to alter the wording for the pieces.

Basically, once you have it down you could use anything. The only reason I use chess pieces is to set the scene that the mentalist is thinking several steps ahead of the participant. Like a grand master.... [/quote]


Brian, yeah... but how about the master stock broker that is able to see several steps ahead and getting the big payoff at the end... so the 6 objects could be MONEY!
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Apr 22, 2015 04:52AM)
Great idea Paolo!!
Message: Posted by: Lord Of The Horses (Apr 26, 2015 12:50PM)
Just got this!

Very well done! I love it! Simple and to the point.

As I did mention before it can be played as "light" or "comedy" piece by giving to any person on stage a giant postcard of a chess piece.

Another person can walk up and down the line of human chess pieces and yet another person can be a "judge" holding the final prediction.

Good job, Brian! :)
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Apr 26, 2015 03:52PM)
Here you can get people to play easy as human chess pieces

[youtube]Glc6oSrStvc[/youtube]

I went to the site etc. any writeup on what the routine is? Not method - I mean, what exactly if I was a volunteer would experience?

thanks!
Message: Posted by: Lord Of The Horses (Apr 27, 2015 10:46AM)
[quote]On Apr 26, 2015, Dr Spektor wrote:


I went to the site etc. any writeup on what the routine is? Not method - I mean, what exactly if I was a volunteer would experience?

thanks! [/quote]

Bruce, watch this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D8Yrz2n530&feature=youtu.be
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (May 3, 2015 06:10AM)
[quote]On Apr 26, 2015, Lord Of The Horses wrote:
Just got this!

Very well done! I love it! Simple and to the point.

As I did mention before it can be played as "light" or "comedy" piece by giving to any person on stage a giant postcard of a chess piece.

Another person can walk up and down the line of human chess pieces and yet another person can be a "judge" holding the final prediction.

Good job, Brian! :) [/quote]

Thanks Paolo!
Message: Posted by: BifKahuna (Mar 24, 2018 03:30PM)
[quote]On Apr 21, 2015, Lord Of The Horses wrote:
Either I miss something OR one can CHANGE the prediction each time, if one wants to! [/quote]

[quote]On Apr 21, 2015, cupsandballsmagic wrote:
You could... The memory hooks that are hidden in plain sight are for the set effect though, you'd have to alter the wording for the pieces.

Basically, once you have it down you could use anything. The only reason I use chess pieces is to set the scene that the mentalist is thinking several steps ahead of the participant. Like a grand master.... [/quote]

I am so interested in this but I have one thing before I bite the bullet. It seems that this only has the one ending? It always ends with the same Piece? So I would not be able to repeat this trick? Also the spec can't name thier own number of moves? Not a big deal just wondering but the the most important is my first questions about the ending.
Any help on finding the answers I would appreciate it. Thank You.
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Mar 24, 2018 05:54PM)
The object of chess IS to capture the king.
Message: Posted by: BifKahuna (Mar 24, 2018 09:41PM)
[quote]On Mar 24, 2018, Tony Iacoviello wrote:
The object of chess IS to capture the king. [/quote]

Very true. But makes this kinda obvious or maybe it's that guilt thing. HeHe
Message: Posted by: Papa Legba (Apr 6, 2018 04:45PM)
I realise this is an old thread but I have only just discovered the effect which is still available, however I have reservations. In the video it looks like he 'peeks' the starting position? Am I wrong?
Message: Posted by: BifKahuna (Apr 6, 2018 06:12PM)
[quote]On Apr 6, 2018, art85y wrote:
I realise this is an old thread but I have only just discovered the effect which is still available, however I have reservations. In the video it looks like he 'peeks' the starting position? Am I wrong? [/quote]

That is what I saw too. This is probably a part of how the entire effect plays out. I don't want to give anything away but I think it gives a starting position for the numbers he instructs after that.

Mods..If me saying this in public is wrong let me know and I will edit out the last bit.
Message: Posted by: Papa Legba (Apr 7, 2018 09:53AM)
Bif, I don't think we are revealing anything by speculating on a public performance/video, imho.
I am currently playing around with a version similar to Docc Hilford's 'The Note'
Message: Posted by: BifKahuna (Apr 7, 2018 10:00PM)
That's true Art, I will have to check the one you mentioned out as well.
Message: Posted by: Oscar999 (Apr 9, 2018 03:43PM)
I have this ... and whether or not the starting position is known or unknown (I will neither confirm or deny), there is still plenty of freedom within the routine for your participant to make their moves freely and secretly as the pieces are eliminated.

I like this very much. And just ordered a set of Chess pieces so I could perform this in a parlor/standup setting.

Oscar
Message: Posted by: BifKahuna (Apr 13, 2018 04:11PM)
Thanks Oscar. I should have ordered this during the march sale. Will get it if it goes on sale again.