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Topic: Best Book or DVD for the Professor's Nightmare?
Message: Posted by: Anand Khalsa (May 30, 2015 12:08PM)
What's the best resource (book or DVD) that you have found for the Professors Nightmare? Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Kabbalah (May 30, 2015 02:33PM)
I wouldn't know about the best, but see Paul Green's [b]The Rope Routine[/b], on his DVD, [i]In The Trenches[/i].

And, of course, Pop (formerly known as Whit) Haydn's, [b]Mongolian Pop Knot[/b]...

Message: Posted by: Mark Boody Illusionist (May 30, 2015 02:48PM)
Also try Daryl's Rope routine. You can get it here http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/5620

Message: Posted by: Dougini (May 30, 2015 02:50PM)
Welcome to the Café, Anand! :)

Message: Posted by: TheMightyRicardo (May 30, 2015 04:55PM)
Fibre Optics by Richard Sanders has a great routine which shows the Professors Nightmare and more.

Message: Posted by: PendletonThe3rd (May 30, 2015 05:22PM)
Harlan's Awakening is pretty great as well:

Message: Posted by: Anand Khalsa (May 30, 2015 06:43PM)
Thanks for the great suggestions everyone :)
Message: Posted by: Tukaram (May 31, 2015 07:41AM)
I love Fiber Optics, by Richard Sanders.
Message: Posted by: seanksutton (May 31, 2015 08:54PM)
Another vote for Fiber Optics here.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jun 1, 2015 10:42PM)
[quote]On May 30, 2015, PendletonThe3rd wrote:
Harlan's Awakening is pretty great as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRf0kgnN33A [/quote]

That does look good.I also love Daryls rope routine as well.
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Jun 2, 2015 12:50AM)

Message: Posted by: 55Hudson (Jun 2, 2015 08:55AM)
Fiber Optics is a good routine. Pop's work usually includes the psychology, which is great. (I don't have his Mongolian Knot routine, so can't speak to it.). Daryl has an excellent 3-DVD set on ropes that is comprehensive and well worth the investment.

Message: Posted by: Anand Khalsa (Jun 2, 2015 06:33PM)
Thanks, everyone! I wasn't previously familiar with Fiber Optics, but I am definitely going to purchase it after seeing the recommendations. I am already familiar with Pop's routine (and already pretty obsessed with all of his work), and I have to say the amount of rope required to repeatedly perform the Mongolian Pop Knot is somewhat cost prohibitive for me. The routine is absolutely a pleasure to watch, but I am looking for a routine where I don't have to purchase new rope every time I perform it. I think I have found that with Fiber Optics. :)
Message: Posted by: Threecard (Jun 19, 2015 12:33AM)
[quote]On May 30, 2015, PendletonThe3rd wrote:
Harlan's Awakening is pretty great as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRf0kgnN33A [/quote]
I agree, this is a great piece of magic! You can use the same ropes over and over and it looks just great. Don't overlook the advice about the Slydini routine as well, I think there are videos of Slydini on youtube that show what a great routine this is...and of course the books are awesome.
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Jun 19, 2015 07:42AM)

I spent a buck with Gene Gordon (one of the three founders of the IBM) in his shop in ...1959<<<< Gene and I were old friends. He did school assemblies, too. I liked the EFFECT, BUT, I was not particularly pleased with the "set up" moves. I "played" with it for 11 years!

THEN,Karrell Fox, my dear friend, and fellow member of the SECRET SIX, realized that the set up for Gen. Grant's "50/50 C&R rope, would also work for the Nightmare. He showed me. >>>>>SHAZAM<<<<< It went into the show almost immediately. In almost 45 years, and thousands of shows, I've used the SAME ROPES. (On the road, they go into the laundry, weekly.)

I understand that Fiber Optics is a fine routine. (I've never seen it done.) At 83, I'm not interested in breaking in a new routine! I'll continue the original Bob Csrver "PN". I did, for some years a routine somewhat similar to Pop Haydn's Mongoolian, but, I went back to Bob Carver's. If I were to do another C&R/PN, etc. I would use Pop's. Mongolian. (I like it better than what I was doing, even though it was very successful.)

SO! PM me, and we can discuss your situation! I think that you will like my PN routine. If not, you "aint lost nothin'"!
Message: Posted by: AidanHeritage (Jun 19, 2015 07:57AM)
I have standard sets made up in coloured rope and white - with bound ends - don't feel the need to do anything OTHER than show the three different sized at the start. On Paul Daniels Bravura DVD he has some good tips on PN
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jun 19, 2015 12:18PM)
[quote]On May 30, 2015, Anand Khalsa wrote:
What's the best resource (book or DVD) that you have found for the Professors Nightmare? Thanks! [/quote]

There are many versions of rope routines that "include" a version of the Professor Nightmare. There was even a book published once, it is not out of print.

After reading your wishes, I suggest you just buy the single trick as has always been sold. The original is not sold because the person that hold the rights, failed to market it do to all the newer creative extended routines that have been mentioned. So until the gentleman's estate decided what to do with the original product Gene Gordon products, the original is dormant for now.

I suggest you just purchase the trick alone. It comes with nice ropes and a page of printed instructions. It is called [b]"My Favorite Rope Trick"[/b], and is sold at most magic stores and online suppliers under that name. It will cost less then $10. It uses the same ropes over and over. There is no patter given, so you have to come up with your own storyline, if you wish to do so, as it plays very well just presented as a magic trick. It was originally a stand alone product, and goes over very well that way, as it has stood the test of time.
Message: Posted by: Pop Haydn (Jun 19, 2015 04:33PM)
Most performers opt for the cheapest routine with rope. The Mongolian Pop Knot is, in my opinion, much more baffling and impressive than any of the Sands style routines.

An investment of four to six bucks a show will give a performer a distinct advantage over those performers in his market who are a little too pennywise.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jun 19, 2015 04:47PM)
Pop Haydn, that is very true, but I think back to when I only had $11 a week from selling newspapers on the corner. The local magic shop only sold hanks of rope, and that cut into my $11 very fast. I had not idea that Abbott's was only a 100 and 15 miles away, and sold those large spools of rope. Today we have the internet, but very few seem to want to use it for finding what they think they need. They have a thousand dollar computer, and will not use it to find the props they need at a cost effective price.

Maybe you should sell your Mongolian Pop Knot with spool of rope, that way it is one stop shopping for them. They will know they have the very same rope good ole' Pop Hadyn uses. It sounds silly, but who knows, they will not have to shop around for rope.
Message: Posted by: Jesseb (May 16, 2017 01:01PM)
I love fibre optics, definitely recommended.
Message: Posted by: bowers (May 16, 2017 09:12PM)
Fiber Optics is packed full of rope effects.
And has a very nice Professors nightmare routine.
Message: Posted by: Ironjim (Oct 4, 2018 07:45PM)
There's a World's Greatest Professor's Nightmare - I really like Michael Finney's performance and explanation. His breakdown is great and was easy for me to learn from.
Message: Posted by: Charles Gaff (Oct 4, 2018 11:40PM)
Fiber optics has pf as a part of the routine with the Slydini handling. Great stuff.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Oct 9, 2018 02:54PM)
Old books published by Harry Stanley of England and later Supreme Magic is old held stock being released currently. The book "Give a Magician Enough Rope", Equal - Unequal Ropes is available again. It all about Professor Nightmare effects.

In England is is referred to as "Equal - Unequal Ropes", or was way back when.
Message: Posted by: thomasR (Oct 15, 2018 08:53PM)
Pop Haydn's Mongolian Pop Knot is one of the best routines in magic, and he teaches it all in his video. It's a cut and restored rope routine with a Professors Nightmare in the middle. I highly recommend it.

Mac King teaches some fun Professors Rope moves, along with a separate cut and restored rope routine in his Penguin Lecture.

and while short, Michael Ammar has a really nice, simple, and clean Nightmare in his recent Penguin Live Act Lecture.
Message: Posted by: wally (Oct 19, 2018 08:00AM)
Ive just got the Joe Ridings version,dvd and booklet,
Message: Posted by: gerryc (Feb 11, 2019 12:24PM)
For just the Professors Nightmare , the WGM DVD is a great value
Message: Posted by: countrymaven (Apr 2, 2019 08:09PM)
I would agree with the WGM DVD on the professors nightmare. Since you asked for this, I am suggesting this. I would also add, that the special count, counting the three equal ropes is an important convincer. However, you also must realize that sometimes people with a basic interest in magic have seen how this works. That is why you do want to connect it with something better, as in many suggestions above. What I do is to make all three ropes end up as one at the end. It can be freely shown as one, you don't have to hold onto a certain part in my routine.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 2, 2019 10:03PM)
Countrymaven, so are you saying that your ending of one long piece of rope is in the World's Greatest Magic DVD? If not, now that you told a new comer who does not know what you are talking about, you should inform him of the source.
Message: Posted by: countrymaven (Apr 3, 2019 10:32PM)
No, Bill, it is not there. But the WGM does have plenty of extended routines. And some of the things discussed above are similar. The ending I referred to is unpublished. But more important than that particular ending is perhaps, as stated above, having something so that those who may know the prof. nightmare may still be suprised by a good ending or routine.
Message: Posted by: Dollarbill (Aug 10, 2019 11:11PM)
No doubt Pop has a killer routine. I don't own it tho. 🤦‍♂️

I do own Michael Finneys' dvd and it's pretty straight forward and I should check that out again........like everything else I need to do. 🤣🤣🤦‍♂️🤣