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Topic: Small smoke machines
Message: Posted by: juggling1 (Jun 22, 2015 04:19PM)
I am working on building a prop that requires a small battery powered wireless smoke machine in it. Its even okay if it isn't wireless as long as once it is activated it will continue to produce a steady flow of smoke for at least 2 min consecutively. I found one called the Tiny FX on LOOK solutions, but it is WAY out of my price range. They are asking $1850.00 and that only comes with a 1 year warranty. I considered dry ice, but do to the nature of the effect that probably isn't a safe idea. Does anyone know of any more affordable alternatives? Thanks in advance:-)
Message: Posted by: Stu Montgomery (Jun 22, 2015 06:43PM)
How small is small? Does it have to be integral within the prop, or could the smoke be fed via tubing with the fogger situated away from the prop?
Message: Posted by: Chris Stolz (Jun 22, 2015 07:25PM)
How much smoke do you want? Even from a mini machine, 2 continuous minutes is going to fill the entire stage and make it nearly impossible to see anything.

Note that Dry ice is going to produce a different kind of fog. Regular ol' fog fluid is light and fills the stage. Fog that has been cooled (I push pump a fogger though a foam cooler full of ice) will be heavier and becomes 'low crawling' fog that doesn't rise. Two quite different results.

If you can give us some idea of the application I can probably make a few recommendations.
Message: Posted by: juggling1 (Jun 22, 2015 07:54PM)
Thanks for the replies:-) The smaller the better, but ideally no bigger than 5in long x 4in wide and 2in in width. Also the lighter the better. The smoke machine cant be separate from the prop and fed by tubing it does all need to be self contained. I probably don't need as much smoke as I had originally thought because I definitely still need to be visible on the stage.
Message: Posted by: Stu Montgomery (Jun 22, 2015 07:57PM)
I'd be surprised if those machines sold at Halloween, if the casing was stripped away, couldn't be adapted to suit. Most of their bulk will likely be the outer casing, with fairly small working parts lurking inside.
Message: Posted by: juggling1 (Jun 22, 2015 08:48PM)
That's a good point. I will have to look into that and see if they are battery powered as well....I believe most of them I have seen use a chord.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jun 24, 2015 08:35AM)
Jay Scott Berry published a book of his Dry Ice devices back in the 1980's or '90's. It covered everything needed to create smoke. He had a complete smoke act he did with dry ice and traveled all over Europe performing for several years. He also made and sold many of his creations back then.

The only other smoke I can think of the model train smoke, you might want to see if you can make that work for you. No one is currently making a smoke in glass, so buying something to convert is not available anyway.

There have been many smoke devices, take a look as the World Magic review shows. Several months ago, there was a new smoke device that produced a good quanity of smoke. They all run around $200.
Message: Posted by: GS121002 (Jun 27, 2015 05:03PM)
[quote]On Jun 22, 2015, juggling1 wrote:
I am working on building a prop that requires a small battery powered wireless smoke machine in it. Its even okay if it isn't wireless as long as once it is activated it will continue to produce a steady flow of smoke for at least 2 min consecutively. I found one called the Tiny FX on LOOK solutions, but it is WAY out of my price range. They are asking $1850.00 and that only comes with a 1 year warranty. I considered dry ice, but do to the nature of the effect that probably isn't a safe idea. Does anyone know of any more affordable alternatives? Thanks in advance:-) [/quote]
Has anyone used an electronic cigarette for smoke production?
Message: Posted by: JonathanB (Jun 28, 2015 05:10AM)
Those ultrasonic mist makers are very small and quite cheap, but you do need them in some water.
I wonder if you could adapt into a suitable container to produce the effect you need?
Message: Posted by: juggling1 (Jun 30, 2015 05:24PM)
I believe the perfect smoke device runs on an E-Cig concept but from the videos I have seen it doesn't produce as much smoke as what I need.
Message: Posted by: Lou Hilario (Jun 30, 2015 05:48PM)
I made this up a few years ago for my Lie Detector Helmet. I used nichrome wire gauge 24 and a 9.6V NiMH battery and Vegetable Glycerine E Juice. I coated the housing with black silicone to reduce the heat externally. But you can only produce smoke for a few seconds and not 2 minutes as you require.
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Message: Posted by: lin (Jul 1, 2015 06:05PM)
That's great! Thanks very much for sharing your tech.
Message: Posted by: juggling1 (Jul 2, 2015 04:31PM)
Thanks Lou that looks great! I could maybe make that work, but ideally would prefer it to smoke longer. What does it cost to rig something like that up?
Message: Posted by: juggling1 (Jul 6, 2015 01:56PM)
I see the battery and the wire but what is it you use that you are actually dropping the fluid into?
Message: Posted by: David Todd (Nov 12, 2021 10:45AM)
[quote]On Jun 30, 2015, Lou Hilario wrote:
I made this up a few years ago for my Lie Detector Helmet. I used nichrome wire gauge 24 and a 9.6V NiMH battery and Vegetable Glycerine E Juice. I coated the housing with black silicone to reduce the heat externally. But you can only produce smoke for a few seconds and not 2 minutes as you require.
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In the video you plug in the wires to the battery pack to set off the smoke, but does it have a way of setting it off remotely or at least by flipping a switch on the unit?
Message: Posted by: Anverdi-museum (Jan 15, 2022 05:16PM)
A smoke generator can do wonders, this is the smoking device on the hobby trains we grew up with, available online and hobby stores.