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Topic: Wizard Product Review 248: Insight, Aquarium, Red Mint & The Hole 2.0!
Message: Posted by: David Sangwell (Jul 15, 2015 06:11AM)
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On this week's Wizard Product Review:

[b]Insight by Hugo Shelly[/b]

Get it by [url=http://www.worldmagicshop.com/insight-by-hugo-shelly/]Clicking Here![/url]

[b]Aquarium by Lynx Magic[/b]

Get it by [url=http://www.worldmagicshop.com/aquarium-by-lynx-magic-and-gustavo-sereno/]Clicking Here![/url]

[b]Red Mint by Under Magic[/b]

Get it by [url=http://www.worldmagicshop.com/red-mint-by-undermagic/]Clicking Here![/url]

[b]Hole 2.0 by Mickael Chatelain[/b]

Get it by [url=http://www.worldmagicshop.com/hole-2-0-blue-by-mickael-chatelain/]Clicking Here![/url]

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Message: Posted by: TheGingerWizard (Jul 15, 2015 08:10AM)
Crumbs, magic really is on it's arse. Insight? I could do that exact same effect (from a participants view) probably better to be honest, for the price of a deck of Waddingtons, £1.30 round my way. Seriously, do you honestly think it makes £400 worth of difference to the spec? I'm starting to think people would buy a £600 ball and tube if it had a battery and saved them an hours practice.

I don't have a problem with spendy items, I've used them myself (including Shelley's stuff) but only when it's pretty much the only way to achieve an effect. Remember how blown away Craig was by Ben Harris' X-ray? How much was that? Out of interest how much is the BCS selling for these days? Weigh that one up.

Utter utter madness. (Bear in mind though if I ever come to sell one, I think it's !@#$*** amazing!!)

Stopped watching after that. Magic used to be The Beatles, these days it's Kanye West.
Message: Posted by: george1953 (Jul 15, 2015 09:04AM)
The very fact that you HAVE to ask if the fish thing is OK should give you the answer, 8 think anyone who p3rforms this is just SCREAMING please complain about me to the booker.
I can see this making sure you don'tget repeat bookings. :wow:
Message: Posted by: danfreed (Jul 15, 2015 10:14AM)
The fish trick is a bad idea, goldfish pee alot, especially when stressed, and they will be sickened by swimming in it, not get enough oxygen, get too hot, too stressed, and a lot of goldfish will be killed. Don't do the trick, or if you must, use a beta fish, they shouldn't be used either, but they are better equiped to handle it than any other fish. You could use a robitic toy fish or a fake rubber fish used for bait, the reaction won't be as good I suppose, but you won't get complaints or kill a fish.
Message: Posted by: Orlan (Jul 15, 2015 01:26PM)
I guess we won't be seeing a guest appearance from Craig in the foreseeable future...
Message: Posted by: larry33 (Jul 15, 2015 01:27PM)
So there sits Wayne, the fish expert. He tried to tell us something like 3 times and David kept cutting him off and never got to really say his expert comments. I kept yelling at the computer "Shhhh, let him talk!" I really would have liked to hear his final comments he tried to tell us.
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Jul 15, 2015 04:15PM)
[quote]On Jul 15, 2015, Orlan wrote:
I guess we won't be seeing a guest appearance from Craig in the foreseeable future...[/quote]

As for me, I found that joke to be in poor taste. A freakin' [i]fish[/i]. Sheesh!

Doug
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Jul 15, 2015 04:18PM)
[quote]On Jul 15, 2015, larry33 wrote:
So there sits Wayne, the fish expert. He tried to tell us something like 3 times and David kept cutting him off and never got to really say his expert comments. I kept yelling at the computer "Shhhh, let him talk!" I really would have liked to hear his final comments he tried to tell us. [/quote]

I totally agree! Maybe the "interview" was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. Like the "intro"?

Doug
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jul 15, 2015 04:41PM)
[quote]On Jul 15, 2015, Orlan wrote:
I guess we won't be seeing a guest appearance from Craig in the foreseeable future... [/quote]

I would guess not, as the last time he returned and demoed a trick for some real people, the Café members jumped on him and about every little thing he did. He was not holding it right, he was standing wrong, he was doing this and that right.

All this because he was very excited about a coin magic DVD previously.

What a disgusting world we are living in.
Message: Posted by: pepka (Jul 16, 2015 01:09AM)
Can we get the fish to swim through the Hole 2.0? Did not like anything this week. The first trick is basically a magician fooler. Any good performer can do something similar for a layman with an ordinary deck and with proper management they will remember it exactly the way THIS was done.
Message: Posted by: TheGingerWizard (Jul 16, 2015 06:59AM)
[quote]On Jul 16, 2015, pepka wrote:
The first trick is basically a magician fooler. Any good performer can do something similar for a layman with an ordinary deck and with proper management they will remember it exactly the way THIS was done. [/quote]

Yep, and the more common these products become, it won't even fool magicians anymore!!
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Jul 17, 2015 08:42AM)
[quote]On Jul 15, 2015, CesaralM wrote:
Hugo Shelley has clearly copied from Cesaral Magic:

(Examples given)

[/quote]

Man. That is a shame. Sad to hear. And not the only one alleged to have done that...shaking my head ruefully...

Doug
Message: Posted by: RiBo (Jul 17, 2015 07:52PM)
[quote]On Jul 17, 2015, Dougini wrote:
[quote]On Jul 15, 2015, CesaralM wrote:
Hugo Shelley has clearly copied from Cesaral Magic:

(Examples given)

[/quote]

Man. That is a shame. Sad to hear. And not the only one alleged to have done that...shaking my head ruefully...

Doug [/quote]

I'm not so convinced this is a copy - from what I've read, Christian and team put in an extensive amount of work they designing these cards. Just because there's the potential for some similiarities doesn't mean this is a copy. It's not like Cerseral invented the RFID chip.
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Jul 18, 2015 06:36AM)
Cesaral Magic has had that problem though. I see where Cesaral might be concerned. But, you're right. Good point. Cesaral has some superior, professional-quality stuff. Very spendy. People want to save $$$. So, a cheaper version always appears. Maybe not...in this case.

Welcome to the Café, RiBo! :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: Ray Chelt (Jul 19, 2015 03:25AM)
[quote]On Jul 15, 2015, TheGingerWizard wrote:
Crumbs, magic really is on it's arse. Insight? I could do that exact same effect (from a participants view) probably better to be honest, for the price of a deck of Waddingtons, £1.30 round my way. Seriously, do you honestly think it makes £400 worth of difference to the spec? I'm starting to think people would buy a £600 ball and tube if it had a battery and saved them an hours practice.

I don't have a problem with spendy items, I've used them myself (including Shelley's stuff) but only when it's pretty much the only way to achieve an effect. Remember how blown away Craig was by Ben Harris' X-ray? How much was that? Out of interest how much is the BCS selling for these days? Weigh that one up.

Utter utter madness. (Bear in mind though if I ever come to sell one, I think it's !@#$*** amazing!!)

Stopped watching after that. Magic used to be The Beatles, these days it's Kanye West. [/quote]

Once this kind of thing gets out then it's bye bye magic.

Similar to the "stooge" argument whenever someone can't figure a mentalism stunt out, now we'll get electronics as the go to answer..I should bin my Card College now as skill doesn't seem to matter any more.
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (Jul 19, 2015 11:26PM)
[quote]On Jul 15, 2015, CesaralM wrote:
Hugo Shelley has clearly copied from Cesaral Magic...

3) Implementation in the same chip detector of the elements: detectors antenna and transmitter, without extension cables. From the Cesaral Open-Perceptions (Japanese version) (released many years ago):

... http://cesaral.com/shop/en/see-all/46-cesaral-open-perceptions.html

[/quote]

Open Perceptions is a fantastic effect, and you've been willing to modify the rig as requested to meet specific needs, Cesar. You even improved the cards after the initial release to make them even better. It's a real shame if Shelley didn't consult you before releasing this, but I'm guessing that he didn't even credit you in the package or video instructions, since David and Sean didn't mention or appear to be aware of your prior work on this.
Message: Posted by: Bradley Morgan (Jul 30, 2015 11:20PM)
I really like the d'lite belly button trick.
Message: Posted by: sirbrad (Aug 5, 2015 02:23PM)
Animals are not tools for your entertainment so don't user them as such. Sean, you "do a lot of corporate gigs?" Doing tricks in your Dad's office on his break does not count as a corporate gigs. Or does it? :lol: Insight is obviously made to fool other magicians, something that does not interest me as they do not pay my check. Sounds neat but definitely not worth almost $600 when the same thing can be accomplished with sleight of hand for laymen, and a lot cheaper. The cost is not worth it in this case as there is not much difference and would be remembered the same as a sleight of hand method. I have found cards in far more amazing, entertaining, and less expensive ways and will continue to use those. That money would be far better spent on a huge magic book or classic periodical set, all of which I already have.
Message: Posted by: MoonRazor (Jan 1, 2016 12:11PM)
So Sean won't use it in his act? is that the information that this show is trying to communicate?
If so, then Sean's reviews will be very worthwhile for Sean. I'm not sure why the rest of us need to be involved.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 5, 2016 10:40PM)
[quote]On Jan 1, 2016, MoonRazor wrote:
So Sean won't use it in his act? is that the information that this show is trying to communicate?
If so, then Sean's reviews will be very worthwhile for Sean. I'm not sure why the rest of us need to be involved. [/quote]

The reason he stated that was because, in order to assign 90 to 100 for the tricks, the rules are they would have to be willing to put in their close-up shows. If they would not, then the score has to below 90. So he was, or less talking to Dave, as reason for the score.
Message: Posted by: Gern Blanston (May 11, 2016 07:40PM)
This technology just needs improved presentation. If you can do the same trick without the technology you're just not thinking hard enough.