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Topic: Types of IT
Message: Posted by: John Clarkson (Jun 25, 2002 11:10PM)
Kevlar, Elastic, etc. There seem to be so many to choose from. Any thoughts of the advantages, disadvantages of each?

Also, has anyone worked with the new Kevlar Pen Reel 2002? Opinions?

Thanks. E-mail welcome if you think you'd be revealing something publicly by discussing this.
Message: Posted by: Stuart Hooper (Jun 25, 2002 11:33PM)
I use the regular brand of I.T. that you can buy in any store. I admit that it's not as flashy as some other types, but it works well. It is very difficult to handle and organize. I would like to know where mine comes from though, and more about other types of thread. I do know this though, it really isn't invisible. With light, or a white backround its totally visible. I've heard that kevlaar and elastic are much more easily seen than the regular type. :stout:
Message: Posted by: magicmanr (Jun 26, 2002 11:52PM)
Regular I.T. that you purchase from your local magic dealer is usually from Woolly Nylon (available at Joanne Fabrics outlets, and other fabric shops) I am unsure about the other types...
Message: Posted by: wert (Jun 30, 2002 09:15PM)
For you americans, where do you go to obtain elastic I.T. *aka lycra spandex thread*?

I've heard it's available from some craft/hobby and maybe some yarn/sewing stores, but it would be nice to know exactly what stores some people have found it at....
Message: Posted by: Stuart Hooper (Jul 1, 2002 11:26AM)
Magicmanr, just so you know, you just gave away a secret which many people sell on websites for 12.95. :stout:
Message: Posted by: John Clarkson (Jul 1, 2002 03:50PM)
On 2002-07-01 12:26, mithrandir wrote:
Magicmanr, just so you know, you just gave away a secret which many people sell on websites for 12.95. :stout:

I guess "giving away secrets" covers a lot of ground and is subject to a lot of differing interpretations. As a magician, I'd not reveal a secret with respect to method to the uninitiated. However, if the method is known (here, IT), I'm not sure that telling someone the best material to use for it is really giving away a secret.

For example, if someone tells me they want to use a magnet to do a particular effect, am I giving away a secret if I tell them where to buy earth magnets for a fraction of the cost the same item is sold for in a magic store?

It's a touchy subject for some people, so I wonder if this will open a discussion that should be in a different forum. (By the way, I already have LeClaire's book in which he discusses sources of I.T. that do not require you to buy it from a magic dealer...)
Message: Posted by: wert (Jul 1, 2002 04:24PM)
Gee, it's been known for many years that there are various sources for IT and elastic IT. A simple google search will turn them all up.

Asking for sources to get good quality/price isn't a big deal.

Most layman could care less and don't really understand how IT and Elastic IT are really used anyways...

If someone wants to pay $12.95 simply to find out that they can harvest IT from pantyhose or buy elastic IT as "Lycra Spandex thread" then they are welcome to do so.
Message: Posted by: John Clarkson (Jul 1, 2002 05:16PM)

I tend to agree with you in general, and certainly agree with respect to IT.

I've seen a few times, though, with respect to commercially available products, when revealing the source of the material to make them seemed inappropriate. These, however, were products that represented human creativity... a substance was changed, an effect created. Thread is simply thread. Sometimes, though, I guess it's hard to know where to draw the line.
Message: Posted by: Monkey (Jul 29, 2002 06:47PM)
Go to any sewing supply store and get wooly nylon or Serger thread (they'll know what I'm talkin' about). You can get the nylon, Elastic, and kevlar in serger thread. A spool of like 500 yards is dirt cheap. So pick one up and you'll have a life time supply. My aunt owns a clothing company so I learned about this from her and got a spool for free :)
Message: Posted by: TiendaMagia (Oct 8, 2002 06:47PM)
Completely agree , to say that elastic I.T. comes from Spandex Lycra and to say that a spool of it is very cheap, is not wrong or unethical.

And even if you knew how to get them, you will probably still buy the I.T. from a magic shop, not for the secret but for the effort of doing it and for your time!

Also a simple google search will give you this information.
Message: Posted by: MagicBrent (Oct 10, 2002 09:49PM)
I particularly like using John Kennedy's Z threads because it has a quick reload. I have tried sitting down with a bright light, a pin, and a set of my wife's ********* but it's too frustrating for me. Check out Ammar's video series on various IT sources. Very helpful! :shucks:
Message: Posted by: idav5d (Oct 20, 2002 03:07PM)
Which type is best for a thread reel, I'm having a heck of a time with wolly in mine, I can't seem to get the tension right.