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Topic: Duffy's Forcing Dice (a Magic Portal Review)
Message: Posted by: canaday (Feb 26, 2016 02:44PM)
Forcing Dice

2 Sizes - both manufactured in the UK

A full set of seven 36mm dice (red with white spots or white with black spots)
45 pounds (with free UK signed for delivery)
Europe - 50 pounds (with free tracked & signed delivery)
USA - 55 pounds (with free signed delivery) ($75.00)


A full set of the standard 16mm (white with black spots only) is cheaper then the American set see end of post
25 pounds (with free UK signed for delivery)
Europe - 30 pounds (with free tracked & signed delivery)
USA - 35 pounds (with free signed delivery) ($49.00)

PayPal to martin@martinduffy.com


Force a number without using loaded dice and different numbers showing on every throw! Different colour combination and smaller size now available.

There are so many great routines you can do with these from children to adults.

Here's one: You give a spec a dice to examine and throw several times to make sure its not loaded. You can point out that the opposite sides always add up to seven if you wish too. Just make sure they are happy it's a normal dice - and it is - at this stage!

Give them 6 numbered envelopes and get them to place your 20 pound note in one of them - any one, they choose. You explain they will roll the dice and keep the numbered envelopes they choose at random. The last one is yours.

You will always get your 20 pounds back!

Martin sent me a set of these dice for review and I must say that I can't wait to give them a try.
Mis-spotted dice have been around forever but they have been mainly used for cheating in gambling games. Dice that will throw a seven every time, for instance. Lesser known are the dice that force a number by elimination. These dice leave a number off so you can eliminate items one by one forcing the number that is missing. The number that is left off is replaced by the number directly opposite. So, if a 2 is left off the dice will have two 5's, etc. Since you cannot see both opposite sides at once, the method is fairly well hidden.

Martin provides a beautiful set of seven dice. You get one normal die, then a die to force each number one through six. By switching the die out, the effect can be repeated. Or if you do a routine with two phases where a number must be forced for the first but not the second, you can give the force die to one spectator and the other to another.

What you are buying here is a tool limited only to your imagination. No routines are given but if you are unable to come up with one on your own, here are some suggestions.

On page 142 of L&L's book, "The Card Magic of Nick Trost" is a great routine called "The Eliminator" which uses this set. Easy to do and powerful. Mark Lemezma's Mind Trick also has a routine that just happens to be available for free viewing through Google.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WjkL5oPSg04C&pg=PA85&lpg=PA85&dq=dice+with+missing+numbers+magic&source=bl&ots=HZZmv4qG62&sig=OOgjZkMmPK0nWG8iTy6RlFHzCi4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi11r2iz_LKAhXCThQKHX-2AdkQ6AEIMTAC#v=onepage&q=dice%20with%20missing%20numbers%20magic&f=false

These dice are nicely made and are of good quality. The regular size will be great for closeup but I would suggest the larger set if you are doing parlor or party magic. I personally prefer the red dice as the color adds to the routine but the white set is also nice.

Positives: Nice construction, attractive prop. Will look great in your show. Force cannot miss and can be repeated over and over with a simple switch of the dice.

Negatives: Would have been nice to have the dice come some sort of a carrying case. No routines included.

Conclusion: This is something that can be added almost immediately to your show. The large size is visible for a distance and the construction is nicely done and should last for years. This would be great for a Bank Night type routine. All in all, a good value and a good addition to your arsenal.
Message: Posted by: Jordanogrady (Feb 26, 2016 05:15PM)
I managed to pick a set of these up from Martin at Blackpool!

Some of the routines he's got with these are fantastic!

I picked up both sizes just incase I wanted to use the smaller ones for close up, I've got a nice velvet bag that I picked up from props of too to carry them round in, so my set is perfect!!

Great work Martin! 5* from me.

Jordan
Message: Posted by: canaday (Feb 27, 2016 05:54AM)
Jordan,
Martin told me about your Divers Lung Testers so I took a look at your site. they look like a hoot to pull on your friends so I shared the link on my personal Facebook page. You should also join our Magic Trick Reviews Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1755782251317278/

Jim
Message: Posted by: canaday (Mar 16, 2016 10:18AM)
Liked the dice so much I just got the smaller closeup size to carry in my pocket.
Message: Posted by: Bamboozled (Apr 17, 2016 12:46AM)
Great review! Thank you!
Message: Posted by: caigy (Apr 19, 2016 02:27AM)
Martin showed these to Luca Volpe amd myself at Blaclpool and we have beem brainstorming quite a few ideas for routines, which we wiill take back to Martin when fine tuned.

These are beautifully made and shout- out 'quality'.

Highly recommended.

Paul Mc.
Message: Posted by: canaday (Jul 20, 2017 06:22AM)
Has anyone come up with any new routines for these? These dice are so rich with possibilities