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Topic: Question about Gary Animal's Street Devils
Message: Posted by: KentuckySlim (Sep 14, 2016 08:27PM)
I really hope this is the right place to ask this question.

Iíve come across what seems to be a set of Gary Animal's Street Devil cups for sale and am very (very) tempted to grab them - however one small thing is giving me pause: the hallmark in the pictures.

Now I've seen cups with his traditional GA hallmark found on the interior roof (example: http://imgur.com/ZhRx1GX * Note: this is not a picture from the set up for sale, just an example of the hallmark that I'm familiar with).

The cups that are for sale have a very different hallmark that looks like it was scratched in along the interior side (picture: http://imgur.com/sIQuiJA ). It reads: GA - St. Devils Final Set * and from what I can see at least this particular cup has no other hallmarks (picture: http://imgur.com/2Sb1TQ7 ).

Now Iíve never come across a set of his street devils in person before and am not sure if Gary hallmarked all of his work the same way - but this is very different from what I'm personally familiar with. So I thought I would turn to some of the experts on here for a second opinion.

So what do you think? Is this a legit hallmark - just unique to this particular set of cups - or was I right to be hesitant about pulling the trigger on this sale?
They look like a great set of cups, but I'd hate to pay a premium for a set that wasn't actually made by Gary.

Thanks so much for taking the time to read and any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!

More pictures of the cups in question.
http://imgur.com/5g8jjsi
Message: Posted by: Leo H (Sep 14, 2016 08:49PM)
I've never seen a copy of the Street Devils in the secondary market. Does the seller have provenance? Is there a receipt for this set from Gary Animal? I recently saw a set of the SDs on the big auction site and the seller wanted over a $1,000.
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Sep 14, 2016 09:14PM)
The top of the cups have marks from the mfg. process, maybe they are some kind of seconds? Gary used to sell seconds of his cups, indicating that they were seconds
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Sep 15, 2016 09:51AM)
Gary started engraving the insides of his cups after I telephoned him about someone ripping off the Gazzo cups. I'm pretty sure he did it for that reason, however could be a co-incidence. I can't see the pics, if you want to PM me any r add a link perhaps...
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Sep 15, 2016 06:41PM)
Gary always stamped his cups from him. There were 2 making Gazzo cups. RNT II and Gary. The ones without hallmarks were RNT II.
Message: Posted by: KentuckySlim (Sep 15, 2016 07:40PM)
I was actually thinking that they might be RNT2 cups. It just seems too good to be true (but, man do I want to believe).

Here's another picture of the scratched in hallmark on the side of the cup that hopefully everyone can view.
Message: Posted by: KentuckySlim (Sep 15, 2016 07:44PM)
... and one last picture showing the cups in question. Thanks so much for all the feedback so far - I really appreciate it!
Message: Posted by: Magic.J.Manuel (Sep 15, 2016 08:13PM)
I purchased a set of street devils from Gary and they were "signed" with an engraving gun, but previous sets were stamped GA.
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Sep 18, 2016 02:56PM)
Those are Gary's cups. As I have already said, Gary started engraving the cups.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Sep 18, 2016 07:13PM)
[quote]On Sep 18, 2016, cupsandballsmagic wrote:
Those are Gary's cups. As I have already said, Gary started engraving the cups. [/quote]

Sorry Brian, wasn't questioning you, I completely looked over the hand engraving in the mouth
of the cup.

Jake Sr.
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Sep 19, 2016 04:27AM)
[quote]On Sep 18, 2016, Mad Jake wrote:
[quote]On Sep 18, 2016, cupsandballsmagic wrote:
Those are Gary's cups. As I have already said, Gary started engraving the cups. [/quote]

Sorry Brian, wasn't questioning you, I completely looked over the hand engraving in the mouth
of the cup.

Jake Sr. [/quote]

Hi Jake, I hope you're well. I wasn't thinking for a minute you were my friend. I'm often incorrect and need questioning anyway! I responded about the engraving as Kentuckyslim seemed to think they were RNT2 but I've never known you or Donnie engrave cups (though I could be wrong)

Bri
Message: Posted by: KentuckySlim (Sep 19, 2016 01:35PM)
Thanks so much for the clarification (I totally misread that earlier post). They definitely look like they are the real deal.
I really appreciate all the help on this & thanks again to everyone who shared some of their expertise!
Message: Posted by: Richard Evans (Sep 19, 2016 04:21PM)
Definitely Gary's cups - and also the leather bag handmade by Gary too. Noce cups :)
Message: Posted by: Leo H (Sep 19, 2016 05:53PM)
Does anyone know if Donnie plans on spinning the Street Devils in the future? This set closed at $878.00 on eBay. Free shipping.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Sep 19, 2016 09:09PM)
What size final load do these take?
Message: Posted by: Leo H (Sep 19, 2016 10:32PM)
[quote]On Sep 19, 2016, Mad Jake wrote:
What size final load do these take? [/quote]

Major League Baseballs.
Message: Posted by: elimagic (Jan 29, 2017 06:30AM)
[quote]On Sep 15, 2016, cupsandballsmagic wrote:
Gary started engraving the insides of his cups after I telephoned him about someone ripping off the Gazzo cups. I'm pretty sure he did it for that reason, however could be a co-incidence. I can't see the pics, if you want to PM me any r add a link perhaps... [/quote]


Is there a way to know if a set of gazzo cups is authentic or not? I just got my hands on a set and I want to make sure they are authentic.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 30, 2017 11:29PM)
Eli,
if you want to send a picture to me I can tell you. If I'm not mistaken the original spinner for Gary, and Elderly gentleman just couldn't spin them anymore because of how thick the copper was.
Again that is only hearsay. I haven't seen Gary on any of the forums lately.

My email address is bbw100@icloud.com If you can send e a couple of pictures I can tell you if they are Gary's, RNT 2's or a knock off.

Cheers,
Mad Jake Sr.
Message: Posted by: elimagic (Feb 4, 2017 02:55AM)
[quote]On Jan 30, 2017, Mad Jake wrote:
Eli,
if you want to send a picture to me I can tell you. If I'm not mistaken the original spinner for Gary, and Elderly gentleman just couldn't spin them anymore because of how thick the copper was.
Again that is only hearsay. I haven't seen Gary on any of the forums lately.

My email address is bbw100@icloud.com If you can send e a couple of pictures I can tell you if they are Gary's, RNT 2's or a knock off.

Cheers,
Mad Jake Sr. [/quote]

Thanks jake, pictures to come next week! They look and feel good to me but you(along with one or two others on here) are truly cup savants with keen eyes haha (yeah I'm looking at you too bill palmer ;) )
That works well actually as I had a question on a set as well.


Eli
Message: Posted by: mysticmelville (Mar 6, 2017 11:33AM)
Just out of curiosity does anyone know how many sets of Street Devil's Gary made?
Message: Posted by: Leo H (Mar 6, 2017 07:41PM)
The Street Devils are a classic case of a prop no longer available I should have snagged years ago.