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Topic: Building a deceptive base? HELP!
Message: Posted by: Evan Williams (Apr 2, 2004 08:10PM)
Hey everyone,

I'm in the process of designing a new illusion for my personal use in my stage show (which is in the making, I am slowly building illusions, etc). It is a production, but I would like to keep the details of the illusion to myself right now, mostly until I finalize my ideas so my thoughts do not sound disorganized and all out stupid. Here is what I need help with though:

I need to build a very deceptive base for the load and do not quite know how to build the type I need. It NEEDS to be [b]square[/b], but would like to make it as small and thin as possible to maybe fit a large assistant in. I would rather be safe than sorry, and make the base big enough to fit a variety of assistants into it. Probably about a 5'8" flexible dancer would be the largest I would produce.

The basic help I need is the painting and external design to make it appear nowhere near thick enough to hold a person.

Any help/pictures/tips would be a TON of help. I am still an amateur stage performer and have a lot to learn, especially in the illusion area.


Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Apr 2, 2004 08:19PM)
Buy the video on how to make a base and steps by Rand Woodbury! It is worth it !

Message: Posted by: KSMagic2007 (Apr 2, 2004 08:58PM)
I would definitely go with either the Paul Osborne books and blue prints or the Woodbury books, videos or blue prints.
Good Luck,
Message: Posted by: briansmagic (Apr 2, 2004 10:30PM)
I have the Rand Woodbury Base Video and it is GREAT! I can recommend it!

Message: Posted by: reedrc (Apr 2, 2004 11:53PM)
PM me I have a base built that may be of interest and give it to you at a great price.
Message: Posted by: Evan Williams (Apr 3, 2004 06:25AM)
Thanks for the tips guys. Ryan, I sent you a PM.

I'm going to buy that video ASAP!

Message: Posted by: Lee Brown (Apr 4, 2004 12:39AM)
I used to work for a fellow who built his own illusions. He had a big collection of illusion plans and books. He almost never used the dimensions in the plans because they were either too big or too small. He would use the basic designs and make a trial version in either corrugated cardboard or luaun wall paneling.

Once he got the dimensions the way they needed to be, he made the final version.
Message: Posted by: dsilverfield (Apr 5, 2004 06:00AM)
Hi Evans,
Use steel channels for the border and yes, buy the Video it helps. Also when you have a bit more money, try to use a laminate finish. I feel it looks better than paint.
Message: Posted by: BryanKelly (Jan 31, 2006 11:57AM)
What kind of laminate would that be? Countertop? (Forgive me if that sounds ignorant). I'm not ignorant... just clueless. :)
Message: Posted by: reedrc (Jan 31, 2006 12:00PM)
Well yes and no. They have this really great lamanite with metallics and cool finishes. Look into a company called chem-metal. They make some really cool stuff.
Message: Posted by: The Drake (Jan 31, 2006 04:20PM)
6 words....

Rand Woodbury, Rand Woodbury, Rand Woodbury.


Message: Posted by: Dave Dorsett (Jan 31, 2006 05:43PM)
6 words, R... oh, wait. That's been done

Seriously, Rand's books are gold mines. I frankly recommend them over Paul's work when dealing with base problems. The laminate idea is also superior as trouping can take its toll on paint but be aware it can significantly increase the weight of your piece.
Message: Posted by: reedrc (Jan 31, 2006 05:48PM)
(and significantly decrease your pocket weight as well)
Message: Posted by: jgravelle (Jan 31, 2006 06:41PM)
Okay, they found you your base.

Now you tell us, where do [i]you[/i] find 5' 8" flexible dancers? ;)


Message: Posted by: Lusion (Feb 3, 2006 03:14PM)
You can find the dancer on Craigslist!!!! that's how I found my assistants!!!