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Topic: The Dream Effect
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Apr 5, 2017 09:44PM)
Hello. Three years ago, I created a small monster, whom I like to call: "The Dream Effect", and this is the first time I've mentioned it publicly.

The Dream Effect is a documentation of your dreams. This allows us to have and present prophetic dreams, which pertain directly to your audience member(s). With this principle, you can:
- Predict someone's dreams before you meet them
- Predict marriage dates before people get engaged
- Predict a child's name before pregnancy
- Predict the name of a person's pet - before they get one.

You can truly predict anything, the sky is the limit. You should not use this at every gig; only use it when it will have maximum impact.

The method is not backtrack-able, it's 100% reliable, and it's dead easy to do. Included are variations for TV and radio performances.

Due to the power of this method, only 7 copies are available, and it is only available for the next 5 days.

If you have questions, PM or leave a comment and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.

The Ebook is available here, at the bottom of the page: http://www.wanderingmagic.com/books

In Magic,
Tom Phoenix
Message: Posted by: MentalistCreationLab (Apr 7, 2017 09:32AM)
IF this is the one you showed me in Vegas this one is way cool! I am still not 100% sure how you even did it.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 7, 2017 10:43AM)
On the website the Ad states:-

[quote]
[b][i]I reserve the right to refund anyone before delivery, if I think they may abuse or expose the method.

I will contact you within 24 hours of purchase, ask a couple questions, and then send you the ebook.[/i][/b]
[/quote]

This is ridiculous. If that be so, why open up your channel for the general public? I personally detest going through a pre-purchase/pre-delivery interrogation. To keep this so called 'Monster Effect' under wraps, it would be better that these 7 copies are sold to a group of personally known trustworthy mentalists. I am sure finding 7 such people will not be a big problem.

Anyway, good luck.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: John C (Apr 7, 2017 10:46AM)
They are all gone anyway. So must have found 7 people.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 7, 2017 10:48AM)
[quote]On Apr 7, 2017, John C wrote:

They are all gone anyway. So must have found 7 people. [/quote]

Wow!!! My 'Good Luck' worked. ;) :) - - - Good for the creator.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: michael640 (Apr 7, 2017 10:49AM)
Clearly a very poor marketing ploy to make something seem more special then it actually is.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 7, 2017 10:55AM)
[quote]On Apr 7, 2017, John C wrote:

They are all gone anyway. So must have found 7 people. [/quote]

As of now, it's still there my friend! :) I just tried a test purchase and it allowed me to purchase through PayPal.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Apr 7, 2017 11:35AM)
He meant 7000, forgot to put the zero's.
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Apr 7, 2017 07:00PM)
Allow me to clarify a couple things:
- The "reserve the right/ask a couple questions" is there mainly in the event that someone with a suspicious or unfamiliar email address buys it. Fortunately, the four people who have received it so far are people I already know or have had good correspondence with in the past. However, I refunded someone yesterday, because they had an email address which was coming from a knock-off site. The message is primarily there to dissuade anyone with malicious intent from buying it, thus saving me the time it takes to refund them. If someone I'm not familiar with buys it, then I'll ask a couple questions, do my due diligence, to make sure they are not a "method stealer" or an illegal reseller/torrent up-loader.

And there have been instances where someone who is just starting out in magic and/or mentalism tries to buy something they're not ready for. Some magic shops do this - they don't sell a method to someone who doesn't have the skill or experience to perform it yet. In which case, it is a matter of saying: "Hey, if you're brand-new to this, then you're not ready for this method. It would be like trying to learn fluid mechanics before learning calculus. Use that money to go buy a couple foundation books, get some performing experience, practice more, and come back when you feel proficient in your skill. Until then, if you need any advice or help, feel free to ask and I'll give you a hand."

- Why release it and not keep it under wraps? Well, there's really no great answer, other than a public release carries more weight than a private release. In this day and age of ripping off creators (slightly changing someone else's effect and claiming it for yourself), it's better to have an official,
and public, record of when something was released, what that something is, and a few people outside your direct circle of friends who can vouch for purchasing it. Hence another reason why I "screen" the people who buy it - if someone who has a reputation of ripping off other creators purchases it, then I'll refund them. This thread is not solely an announcement/ad, it's a documentation of publicly releasing the method.

Tom Phoenix
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 7, 2017 08:13PM)
@ Tom: Perfect! Well said. I am sorry for my first post on this thread. I didn't fully understand your intentions and took it in the wrong sense. My sincere apology - SORRY for that Tom.

Good Luck.

Best regards,

Narendra

:xmas:
P.S. Continue please . . . ! :)
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Apr 7, 2017 11:16PM)
Ustaad, that is quite alright, right after reading your post, I realized how easily it could be taken other than how I intended. And how are you making that Santa Claus-smiley?

And John C, nope, not quite gone yet. C'mon now, if I was going to bluff a release, I wouldn't make it available to buy. ;)

Tom Phoenix
Message: Posted by: John C (Apr 8, 2017 12:13AM)
[quote]On Apr 7, 2017, Ustaad wrote:
[quote]On Apr 7, 2017, John C wrote:

They are all gone anyway. So must have found 7 people. [/quote]

As of now, it's still there my friend! :) I just tried a test purchase and it allowed me to purchase through PayPal.

:xmas: [/quote]

ah yes, it was the first two items sold out.
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Apr 10, 2017 03:26PM)
Today is the last day this will be available until August, and there are 2 copies left.
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Apr 11, 2017 12:30PM)
Annnd, that's it.
Message: Posted by: SleepyMagic (Apr 11, 2017 01:09PM)
Will it ever be available again.

Sleepy
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Apr 12, 2017 03:51PM)
Yes in August regards Tarik 😊
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Aug 13, 2017 01:08AM)
Hello, I am making this available again, for the next 7 days. The link has changed, so here's the new one: http://wanderingmagic.com/products/the-dream-effect

Tom Phoenix
Message: Posted by: Psy (Aug 13, 2017 11:23AM)
Why am I not able to purchase or add to cart "The Book of Odyssey"?
Message: Posted by: Kuroth (Aug 13, 2017 05:31PM)
Just purchased this today. Looking forward to getting it..

Thanks!
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Aug 13, 2017 09:38PM)
[quote]On Aug 13, 2017, Psy wrote:
Why am I not able to purchase or add to cart "The Book of Odyssey"? [/quote]

Hi Psy, I made them unavailable a couple months ago.

[quote]On Aug 13, 2017, Kuroth wrote:
Just purchased this today. Looking forward to getting it..

Thanks! [/quote]

Hello Kuroth, I sent it a little while ago, so it should be in your inbox by now. Enjoy!

Tom
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Aug 13, 2017 10:42PM)
:huh:
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Aug 14, 2017 04:50PM)
[quote]On Aug 13, 2017, Decomposed wrote:
:huh: [/quote]

eh?
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Aug 2, 2018 11:06PM)
Hello again! I'm releasing this a little early this year, since I'll be away from civilization during the time which I normally release this.

Anyhoo, it's available for 1 week, and only 7 will be sold this year.

Some of you may have read the thread in Inner Thoughts, regarding "Prevision". The "Dream Effect" is the method I was referencing in that thread - it's more versatile in what you can predict, and allows you to put multiple reveals in the same media. The differences are:
- this is done with audio, rather than video
- this takes a little longer to accomplish
- this is 1/10th the price

Here is the link, with a more detailed description: http://wanderingmagic.com/products/the-dream-effect

Let me know if you have any questions, and I'll answer as best as I can, without giving too much away.

Tom
Message: Posted by: Sudo Nimh (Aug 3, 2018 01:06AM)
Hey Tom - is this that thing you shared with me a while back?

If it is, then I heartily recommend it. It is a fantastic idea. And so so simple too.
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Aug 3, 2018 04:09PM)
Yup! It's the one that you suggested to keep under wraps. ;)
Message: Posted by: SleepyMagic (Aug 3, 2018 06:31PM)
When you say audio, where is the audio uploaded? Or is it sent to anyone?
Thanks
Sleepy
Message: Posted by: Sudo Nimh (Aug 3, 2018 07:08PM)
[quote]On Aug 3, 2018, TheSecretFire wrote:
Yup! It's the one that you suggested to keep under wraps. ;) [/quote]

Yeah, I like this one a LOT. It's an absolutely perfect method too - 100% pain free. Many years ago, I had a few events to do where I was looking for a headline prediction. Had this been available back then, it is precisely what I would have used. What is so beautiful about this method is that not only can you do all that with absolute ease - it is basically CERTIFIED that you made the prediction years, weeks, or days in advance - whatever you choose. It really is a wonderful idea. I only wish that I'd conceived it myself! Frankly, if I were Tom, I wouldn't have said a word about this and hit America's Got Talent or something similar. I'd definitely be milking it for all it's worth, that's for sure. It can be a real reputation maker in the hands of somebody who knows how to apply it effectively and meaningfully. I still think you should be sitting on this one Tom. I don't know what you're charging for it, but I guarantee you it's not enough. I would have paid hundreds to have it back then when I needed it. :)
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 4, 2018 04:00AM)
SHHH!
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Aug 6, 2018 04:16PM)
[quote]On Aug 3, 2018, Sudo Nimh wrote:

Yeah, I like this one a LOT. It's an absolutely perfect method too - 100% pain free. Many years ago, I had a few events to do where I was looking for a headline prediction. Had this been available back then, it is precisely what I would have used. What is so beautiful about this method is that not only can you do all that with absolute ease - it is basically CERTIFIED that you made the prediction years, weeks, or days in advance - whatever you choose. It really is a wonderful idea. I only wish that I'd conceived it myself! Frankly, if I were Tom, I wouldn't have said a word about this and hit America's Got Talent or something similar. I'd definitely be milking it for all it's worth, that's for sure. It can be a real reputation maker in the hands of somebody who knows how to apply it effectively and meaningfully. I still think you should be sitting on this one Tom. I don't know what you're charging for it, but I guarantee you it's not enough. I would have paid hundreds to have it back then when I needed it. :) [/quote]

Glad you like it, Sudo! And yes, it will work as a headline prediction. I don't do that for big audiences (okay... I did once), mostly because I don't want a lot of media attention (I like to stay out of the limelight), and this is the kind of thing which generates attention.

And I cover this in the explanation, but I'll outline it here, too: It's better to present this kind of prediction as something that:
- "came to you in a dream",
- or you "had a sudden thought and you don't know why or where it came from",

rather than saying you "have made a prediction". Presenting a prediction as a dream is more convincing than presenting a prediction as a prediction, and you don't get as many (if any) questions like: "how did you know that?", "why aren't you using this to save people?", etc. Most people understand that we have little-to-no control over what we dream about, so when you say you had a dream, it sounds better and you don't have to worry about the follow-up questions when you are correct.
Message: Posted by: Sudo Nimh (Aug 6, 2018 06:53PM)
[quote]On Aug 6, 2018, TheSecretFire wrote:
[quote]On Aug 3, 2018, Sudo Nimh wrote:

Yeah, I like this one a LOT. It's an absolutely perfect method too - 100% pain free. Many years ago, I had a few events to do where I was looking for a headline prediction. Had this been available back then, it is precisely what I would have used. What is so beautiful about this method is that not only can you do all that with absolute ease - it is basically CERTIFIED that you made the prediction years, weeks, or days in advance - whatever you choose. It really is a wonderful idea. I only wish that I'd conceived it myself! Frankly, if I were Tom, I wouldn't have said a word about this and hit America's Got Talent or something similar. I'd definitely be milking it for all it's worth, that's for sure. It can be a real reputation maker in the hands of somebody who knows how to apply it effectively and meaningfully. I still think you should be sitting on this one Tom. I don't know what you're charging for it, but I guarantee you it's not enough. I would have paid hundreds to have it back then when I needed it. :) [/quote]

Glad you like it, Sudo! And yes, it will work as a headline prediction. I don't do that for big audiences (okay... I did once), mostly because I don't want a lot of media attention (I like to stay out of the limelight), and this is the kind of thing which generates attention.

And I cover this in the explanation, but I'll outline it here, too: It's better to present this kind of prediction as something that:
- "came to you in a dream",
- or you "had a sudden thought and you don't know why or where it came from",

rather than saying you "have made a prediction". Presenting a prediction as a dream is more convincing than presenting a prediction as a prediction, and you don't get as many (if any) questions like: "how did you know that?", "why aren't you using this to save people?", etc. Most people understand that we have little-to-no control over what we dream about, so when you say you had a dream, it sounds better and you don't have to worry about the follow-up questions when you are correct. [/quote]

Well, that's one avenue of thought for sure.

I know how to make this play for a headline prediction very easily - and in fact, you can still play as it as a dream recorded in your "dream diary". Some people have personal quibbles about headline prediction effects, but I don't. I rather welcome sensationalism. ;)

But beyond headline stuff, I have thought of oodles of applications for this idea. It's very versatile.
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Aug 7, 2018 03:43PM)
You know, it'd be interesting to use this in conjunction with "Geocaching": Say they think of the object "keychain" and the city "Paris", and you also get their birthday. Your dream recording could be a description of a dining room, and you glance onto the kitchen counter and there is a keychain with a small figurine of the Eiffel Tower. On the dining table is a birthday cake. Suddenly, all the candles go out and the smoke swirls into the shape of their star sign for just a moment, and then dissipates.
Message: Posted by: DrRob (Aug 7, 2018 04:42PM)
Tom that is an excellent way of combining the 2 concepts/routines to make it a much more memorable experience.

Regards
Dr Rob
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Aug 7, 2018 07:59PM)
2 days and 2 copies left.
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Aug 9, 2018 02:47PM)
And today is the last day until next year.

Once again, here's the link: http://wanderingmagic.com/products/the-dream-effect

I was asked via PM if this requires any apps or specific phone versions: Nope. It doesn't. You need a device with which to make an audio recording, and a device with internet access. Most people can use their phone for both. Personally, I use a handheld recorder and a computer.... because I have a dumb phone.... as opposed to a smart phone.
Message: Posted by: TheSecretFire (Jul 22, 2019 04:14PM)
Okie dokie, I'm making The Dream Effect available a month early this year, since I'll be away from those human civilizations and their technologies for most of August.

The Dream Effect is available for the next 7 days.

And as always, only 7 copies will be sold, until next year.

https://wanderingmagic.com/products/the-dream-effect

For anyone who's on the fence about it: read this thread and the description on the site to determine if it's something you think you'll use. It can be used to predict anything, BUT, it's better when used to reveal information which carries some weight: dreams, marriage dates, aspirations, plot numbers, and the like.

Tom Phoenix
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jul 22, 2019 05:32PM)
It sounds fantastic, but being a hobbiest practiconer, it is something I would not get a chance to use.
I do hope to witness it action someday.