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Topic: Florian Zimmer Manipulation Balls
Message: Posted by: WayneCapps (Jun 7, 2017 06:33PM)
I was on the hunt for a good set of manipulation balls and I struggled in what to get. I had an old set of smaller Fakini Balls and a wooden set. I am developing a new routine and wanted a nice 2 inch set. Since new Fakini sets are virtually impossible to get because of their business woes, I had to do a lot of research. With the hole being left by Fakini, there seems to be several manufactures who are trying to fill that void. The brand that seemed to have the most promise was Florian Zimmer's set. Honestly, I was a bit apprehensive because they were also the most expensive out there and there were virtually no reviews. I talked to Florian and he gave me some details and I decided to take a chance and order a set.

I can tell you that I could not be happier with the set that I received. In my opinion they fix all of the flaws of a Fakini ball. The first thing I noticed was the weight. They are hollow and seem to weigh about half of what a Fakini ball weighs so holding a hand full of larger balls it is a lot easier! They have a better texture as well. Instead of just silicone, they almost seem to have a tacky feel. It's hard to explain but they really have a nice texture. I don't see myself dropping these! Also, unlike some of the new brands being put out, Zimmer's actually come in 2 inch sizes, which I think is important. The old timers used to laugh at anyone who worked with manipulation balls under 2 inches.

I also compared them to a 2 inch JL ball that I have. The JL ball just seems very heavy and the surface a bit slick compared to the Zimmer ball. Honestly, there is no comparison.

I think the only downside is a seam. That doesn't bother me but some people might not like it. Also, they only come in white and the biggest size they have are 2 inches. But, after messaging Florian, the newer balls that he will release will be seamless (or close to it) and according to his site, larger balls and colored balls are coming. So, in my opinion, these will soon be the perfect manipulation balls.

All in all, I think these balls will be the new standard for serious manipulators. They are highly recommended!
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Jun 9, 2017 12:09PM)
Are these a 3 ball set?
Do they have a s***l?
Possible to do 2 s***ls manipulations?
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Jun 9, 2017 09:30PM)
Http://shop.florianzimmer.de/produkt/fze-ball-set-2/
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Jun 11, 2017 04:16PM)
Thanks magnus.

now I have to wait when he has colors.
Message: Posted by: carbone1853 (Jun 17, 2017 12:13PM)
Wayne,

Do the Zimmer balls balls bounce and/or would they survive a drop?

Thanks,
Chris
Message: Posted by: Alexander Wells (Jun 17, 2017 01:36PM)
I personally don't have these balls but I asked Florian the same question about bouncing. He said they do bounce but not as high as Fakinis.
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Jun 20, 2017 03:07AM)
Why is it important that they bounce high?
Message: Posted by: WayneCapps (Jun 20, 2017 07:20AM)
They do bounce a bit and can certainly survive a drop. But, they are hollow so when dropped, the bounce is deadened a bit. If you rely on bouncing the balls, these are probably not for you.
Message: Posted by: Alexander Wells (Jun 21, 2017 03:01PM)
For me Robert, bouncing makes a difference because in my current routine there's a point where I bounce a ball after producing it. So if a new set of balls don't bounce as well I'd have to change my routine. Not necessarily a problem but it's the sort of thing you want to know before you spend money on a new prop.
Message: Posted by: carbone1853 (Jun 21, 2017 08:20PM)
"Why is it important that they bounce high?"

Like Alexander, I bounce the balls in my routine. Bouncing does several things. First, nothing says no it's a no fooling around ball like bouncing it. Second, many interesting flourishes involve bouncing. Finally, it lets the people in the back know what the white thing in my hand is.
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Jun 23, 2017 11:49AM)
Thanks alexander / carbonne
Message: Posted by: jay leslie (Jun 23, 2017 02:32PM)
Not to mention, If you drop one and it bounces back you can smile and grab it mid-air, like that’s what you wanted to do.

As opposed to bending over to get it

But then again, a dead ball on the floor gives you an opportunity to steal a production item or switch something.
Message: Posted by: Doc Svengali (Oct 9, 2017 03:14PM)
Here are some much less expensive alternatives to the Florian Zimmer balls that all are of high quality and have been reviewed elsewhere on the Café:


http://www.sterlinimagic.com/bond-lee-s-professional-manipulation-balls-1-7.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Deluxe-Multiplying-Balls-White-or-Red-43mm-magic-tricks-magic-balls/32292116320.html?spm=2114.search0104.8.10.EtbKJy

http://www.approachchina.com/multiplying-balls-top-quality-white-medium-45mm-p-930.html

http://www.approachchina.com/multiplying-balls-top-quality-white-large-50mm-p-1925.html

The Florian Zimmer balls are unquestionably top notch but magicians on a budget should consider some of the very good economical alternatives.
Message: Posted by: WayneCapps (Dec 20, 2017 08:57PM)
[quote]On Oct 9, 2017, Doc Svengali wrote:
Here are some much less expensive alternatives to the Florian Zimmer balls that all are of high quality and have been reviewed elsewhere on the Café:


http://www.sterlinimagic.com/bond-lee-s-professional-manipulation-balls-1-7.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Deluxe-Multiplying-Balls-White-or-Red-43mm-magic-tricks-magic-balls/32292116320.html?spm=2114.search0104.8.10.EtbKJy

http://www.approachchina.com/multiplying-balls-top-quality-white-medium-45mm-p-930.html

http://www.approachchina.com/multiplying-balls-top-quality-white-large-50mm-p-1925.html

The Florian Zimmer balls are unquestionably top notch but magicians on a budget should consider some of the very good economical alternatives. [/quote]

But remember Doc, often times you get what you pay for. I have played with many different brands and they all have a different feel. The cheaper ones often times have a slick/oily feel to them.
Message: Posted by: skilldini (Nov 12, 2018 05:48AM)
How do you buy florian zimmer balls...any n. america retail? ty skilldini
Message: Posted by: Alexander Wells (Sep 7, 2019 12:11PM)
You buy them from his website, PayPal him the money, he ships them across the world and you pay the import taxes at your end... Just like we Europeans do when we buy from Owen's, Pro-Mystic or any of the other excellent U.S. producers of unique magic props!
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Nov 6, 2019 09:05AM)
Last weekend I met Florian Zimmer. We both worked Legoland Germany. He showed me his manipulation balls. They are really great. I love the 2" size.