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Topic: Is strait jacket escape "magic"
Message: Posted by: glowball (Sep 11, 2017 08:13PM)
I'm thinking about doing a strait jacket escape in a magic contest.
Will the judges consider this "magic"?
I have always thought that "magic" was something that defies the laws of science ie: object disappears, reappears, changes shape, penetrates something, levitates etc.
In a strait jacket escape there is nothing "magic" about, everyone sees exactly what you are doing, but it is entertaining.
Jade does a thumb tie routine that does appear "magic" because the hoops magically penetrate the ties and her arms.
But a strait jacket, hmm, your thoughts about this.
Message: Posted by: Cliffg37 (Sep 12, 2017 09:53AM)
Escape is not magic per se, but it is in my mind an "Allied Art." I think your answer lies in who is putting on the contest. If it is any kind of magic club or group, Houdini was a magican first (king of cards) then an escapologist) that should be fine. If it is a community center, I would ask the people running it if they are OK with it.

In my personal experience, many people call me a magician, even when I am doing a show of escapes.
Message: Posted by: glowball (Sep 12, 2017 11:17AM)
Thanks for your input. I'm glade Houdini wasn't a juggler too!
Message: Posted by: Harley Newman (Sep 13, 2017 08:33AM)
Yes, it is, without any doubt. There's a qualifying statement, though. Escapes are one of the most ancient skill-sets. Most EAs don't have that context.
Message: Posted by: Moxahalla (Sep 13, 2017 12:18PM)
I doubt you'll ever win a "Magic contest" with any escape...much less, a strait-jacket escape.

The Magic die-hards/historians consider Houdini nothing more than a bubbler of magic, and/or a stuntman.

Play the politics game, and do a traditional magic act - if you want to be in the running for a prize.
Message: Posted by: glowball (Sep 13, 2017 03:38PM)
To Moxahalla "I doubt you'll ever win a "Magic contest" with any escape...much less, a strait-jacket escape."
Check out the act that won the Mid-West Jubilee last month (comedy rope tie escape).
But I will heed your advice.
Message: Posted by: Harley Newman (Sep 13, 2017 03:48PM)
I'm not a Houdini fan, but he was a greater stunt-man than most of the EAs I've seen.
Message: Posted by: paul180 (Sep 15, 2017 12:04PM)
Escape imo are more in the stunt category. Never the less that can and do aid the magician/mentalist in gaining publicity. That's how Houdini was able to become the most recognized magician in the world and gained the reputation as "The Man Who walks Through Walls". If you want almost immediate publicity, DO A STUNT.