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Topic: Kellar, front or back?
Message: Posted by: seadog93 (Feb 2, 2018 02:36PM)
Hello lovely people,

I have a sort of silly question for y'all. I apologize for not searching for it, but not sure how to specifically look for this.
I have a terminology question about the Kellar rope tie.

I recently brushed off my kellar rope tie routine for some friends and family, and for a magic class that I taught. It's been so much fun I'm thinking that it should either be incorporated into my kid/family show, or at least as an encore.

In preparing for the class I thought I would look up some other performers routines and I noticed that while many of them did a very similar effect, they all seem to have their hands tied behind their back. I can do it that way of course, but I have always done it with both hands in front (wrists together and hands facing the same way) like the Siberian chain escape.

Anyways, sorry for the rambling, that's the question:
Is it still the Kellar rope tie if my hands are in the front and point the same direction?
If not, is there a different name for this?

Thanks so much! :)
Message: Posted by: Cliffg37 (Feb 2, 2018 04:02PM)
Hands behind allows for certain gags in the routine. Example, tapping the volunteer on the shoulder, then showing him you are still tied up.
Message: Posted by: seadog93 (Feb 2, 2018 04:32PM)
Yes, I agree, that's the most important part.

I do it with a handkerchief or jacket over my wrists, so I can do most of the same gags.
I keep taking my hand out, showing three fingers and explaining that I used to be able to do it in just three seconds, then have the knots re-examined because we haven't started. In the end I apologize, say I can't do the trick after all and just take the rope off and throw it in my bag.
I assume this is one of the standard variations right?
Message: Posted by: Harley Newman (Feb 7, 2018 02:47PM)
Back is Kellar.
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Feb 7, 2018 03:10PM)
The (very) late Karland Frischkorn of Norfolk, VA, did the KELLAR TIE, surrounded (or at least with people on the side).

He carried a short black velvet cape which was long enough to go about 4" below his belt line!