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Topic: Chink -a-Chink routine
Message: Posted by: magicdave56 (Apr 23, 2018 01:00PM)
What are the best size of bottle caps to use for this ?
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Apr 23, 2018 01:53PM)
The ones that work on your hands. I have used the sloped Clorox bottle caps. Iíve Also used beer bottle caps and water bottle caps (and casino dice, sugar cubes, and even thimbles).
Message: Posted by: karnak (Apr 23, 2018 02:34PM)
With Chink-A-Chink per se, do you palm the items, or simply slide them?
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 23, 2018 02:42PM)
Neither, the classic secret move is to use the thumb. Trying to palm an items is usually a total give away, unless some kind of adhesive that is easy to release.
Message: Posted by: magicdave56 (Apr 23, 2018 04:44PM)
I palm them
Message: Posted by: karnak (Apr 23, 2018 09:11PM)
Bill, can you clarify or explain further by what you mean by use the thumb?

How so, exactly? (Not a thumb palm, Iím guessing.)

Thanks in advance!
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (May 1, 2018 11:36PM)
Open forum, can't reveal to the Internet world.
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (May 2, 2018 08:56AM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2018, karnak wrote:
Bill, can you clarify or explain further by what you mean by use the thumb?

How so, exactly? (Not a thumb palm, Iím guessing.)

Thanks in advance! [/quote]

Suggest that you ask that question in the secrets forum!
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (May 2, 2018 11:23AM)
Or send bill a pm
Message: Posted by: Rocky (May 2, 2018 10:39PM)
[quote]On May 1, 2018, Bill Hegbli wrote:
Open forum, can't reveal to the Internet world. [/quote]

Doesn't matter where this thread ends up being discussed. The fact that the name of the effect was used in the topic heading makes it an easy Google for any muggle to investigate.
Message: Posted by: jim ferguson (Jun 12, 2018 06:42PM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2018, Bill Hegbli wrote:
Neither, the classic secret move is to use the thumb. Trying to palm an items is usually a total give away, unless some kind of adhesive that is easy to release. [/quote]


Where are you getting this information from ?

The earliest reference I have in my personal library is in Sachs Sleight of Hand, with sugar lumps - and while it just says "palm" rather than "classic palm", the subsequent dialogue implies it is indeed the classic palm that is used.

Its also been the classic palm in every other description I've read of the effect.

You've mentioned the Stars of Magic book on here before. If you have it handy, check the Chink-a-Chink item in there, it too uses classic palm.

Paul Daniels did a Max Malini act, in which he recreated Malinis effects - same methods and procedures. And he too used classic palm.

The sliding method is more or less unique to coins.


To answer the OP - any caps that work well for you will be the best, for YOU.
Beer bottle caps are one of my favourite props to use for the trick. These are super easy to palm due to the shape of the edge.

If you find yourself performing seated, or even out for a meal with friends, there is a great Chink-a-chink in David Regals Constant Fooling (vol 2), that uses beer bottle caps. It uses a handkerchief as well and has a bottle of beer production to close.


Jim
Message: Posted by: boxjumper (Jun 13, 2018 09:23AM)
Classic Palm works well for caps, dice, candies, sugar cubes.

BJ
Message: Posted by: GlennLawrence (Jun 13, 2018 12:07PM)
Can't remember whose effect it is but a Genii issue about a year ago had John Gustaferro (sorry I know I must have butchered the spelling) doing a writeup of an effect using 3 beer bottlecaps. Had a Bermuda Triangle theme to it. I just recently started playing around with it and I find you can p**m the caps quite easily with no giveaways. The routine uses a combo of that and just plain sliding.

Glenn
Message: Posted by: Bunny Quinn (Aug 7, 2018 01:58PM)
Love this trick. Saw Jerry Sadowitz do this on tv when I was a bunter. Amazing memories.
Message: Posted by: Conus (Aug 18, 2018 06:41PM)
[QUOTE]
Can't remember whose effect it is but a Genii issue about a year ago had John Gustaferro (sorry I know I must have butchered the spelling) doing a writeup of an effect using 3 beer bottlecaps. Had a Bermuda Triangle theme to it.
[/QUOTE]

That routine in GENII was Gregg Webb's. John changed Gregg's routine a little bit when it went to print.

Gregg Webb has a lot of effects using bottlecaps in his various ebooks. (Also a slew of free tricks from his old -- and now defunct -- FEENX web site.)

If you like Gregg's bottlecap matrix, you should check out his 3-way coin matrix with cards called "Tri-Matrix Plus." (With kicker loads under all three cards.)
Message: Posted by: Pop Haydn (Jul 15, 2019 04:29AM)
[youtube]RGARHmo8Snk[/youtube]
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Jul 20, 2019 12:47AM)
Https://youtu.be/zT-UyxWpP-Q

following along with Pop Https://youtu.be/zT-UyxWpP-Q


the trailer was fast but great work, if he used the Mano lift it would look like real magic
I want to thank bob Sheets and Glenn morphew
Message: Posted by: Al Schneider (Jul 21, 2019 10:15AM)
Pop

Watched your clip of weights.

After some thought I think that presentation is the best that can be done with that concept.

The audience clearly understands what is happening and it looks absolutely magical.

I care not about the technical details. The presentation is just great.

My compliments.

Al
Message: Posted by: Pop Haydn (Jul 23, 2019 06:34PM)
[quote]On Jul 21, 2019, Al Schneider wrote:
Pop

Watched your clip of weights.

After some thought I think that presentation is the best that can be done with that concept.

The audience clearly understands what is happening and it looks absolutely magical.

I care not about the technical details. The presentation is just great.

My compliments.

Al [/quote]

Thanks, Al. That means a lot to me.
Message: Posted by: Glenn Morphew (Jul 26, 2019 07:26PM)
If anyone is interested in obtaining a set of brass weights to perform a chink-a-chink style routine, feel free to message me. You would get a set of the brass weights as well as the routine Bob Sheets and I created and refined over a year and a half. The routine has 4 distinct phases and 11 magic moments.

-Glenn
Message: Posted by: dalo (Sep 23, 2019 06:54AM)
Wonderfull routine.
It took a while before I caught on.

It looks absolutely fantastic.
D
Message: Posted by: Pop Haydn (Sep 23, 2019 02:28PM)
[quote]On Sep 23, 2019, dalo wrote:
Wonderfull routine.
It took a while before I caught on.

It looks absolutely fantastic.
D [/quote]

Which routine?
Message: Posted by: dalo (Sep 23, 2019 04:05PM)
Yours, with the weights. Chink-a-chink.

I am used to have an extra piece I have to get rid of afterwards.

So I was quite stunned when your hands was empty at the start and at the end.

Very nice
Message: Posted by: Pop Haydn (Oct 28, 2019 04:32PM)
One thing I have found is that by convincing the audience that the effect is a game of skill like "cup stacking," and after having the weights examined, the audience is looking for "sleight of hand" or fast motions--the idea of a shell or extra weight would be out of the question. Like cheating at cup stacking--what would be the point of that? If you make the effect "magic" then the audience will be looking for trickery. Since it is trickery, I prefer to have them astounded by preternatural skill. Presenting a thing in its "most remarkable" premise is the path I try to find.