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Topic: Gamble by Steve Cook
Message: Posted by: hektormagic (Apr 26, 2018 03:21PM)
It looks interesting. Can someone tell is the offering wallet necessary or the effect can be done in other way too - chips in the spectatorís pocket, or in bag or other wallet...!? I ask because the whole effect do not looks using a gimmick and it is most probably just f**ce so I can not see the reason they to sell it also with wallet. It can be just download or pdf file explanation trick...
https://www.kaymarmagic.com/products/gamble-by-steve-cook-kaymar-exclusive-pre-order
Message: Posted by: BifKahuna (Apr 26, 2018 10:03PM)
I am glad you posted this. I never heard of this trick till now. I would like to know the answer to your question and if the trick can be repeated with a different chip color ending up being the prediction and last one in bag.
Message: Posted by: The Duster (Apr 27, 2018 07:33PM)
I would suggest...

You could have the spec pocket any colour chip - but you would need to have two copies of that chip [one for the pocket and one for the wallet]

Obviously you only get the five chips with this effect [and two of them the same colour]

Wallet question,

Of course the effect could be done another way - but the wallet way is the one you are buying

This is based on another Steve Cook effect - so if you would rather do this with Dice and a dice holding box [instead of a wallet] - you could do it that way

Even though Liam talks about Jedi powers - there is no force

Any more is exposure

If you like the effect - it looks a really good package / price especially as you get the wallet too... I bought the dice version for £160

And it has been fun to do
Message: Posted by: BifKahuna (Apr 27, 2018 08:36PM)
Duster you are spot on. I contacted the facebook page and they said the prediction colour could change but you would need the extra colour chip as you say. You are right about the wallet as well it can be done another way but it does come with soo. Wish you could tell me more about the "Jedi powers". But yes I am going to get this and maybe Galaxian from the site too it looks interesting.

Is the die one you are talking about DIE-ABOLICAL VERSION 2 BY STEVE COOK, TONY CURTIS? I ran across that when looking around and it looks really awesome. Wish I could get that one too. I asked on the thread for it and Mr. Curtis sent me to a foreign site (i am in the U.S)I don't recognize and the cost before shipping is about $250 don't even know what shipping is. If you are interested in selling yours let me know HaHa.
Message: Posted by: The Duster (Apr 27, 2018 08:46PM)
I think mine was £160 [if I remember]

Not worth selling it - as after posting it to you - I guess it would be well over $200

They have a version of that [Die-abolical by Steve Cook] which sells for about $12

So if you would rather do a dice version [then the poker chip version] I would guess you could get the dice version for cheaper than Gamble
Message: Posted by: The Duster (Apr 27, 2018 08:47PM)
This is it on the same website as the wallet version you linked:

https://www.kaymarmagic.com/products/psycho-dice-by-steve-cook
Message: Posted by: The Duster (Apr 27, 2018 08:53PM)
Not sure if this helps - it's US based wallet version

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Poker-Chip-Prophesy-by-Steve-Cook-Trick/547885162
Message: Posted by: BifKahuna (Apr 27, 2018 09:06PM)
Oh dang duster thanks a bunch looks like I will be doing some shopping. LOL Those links are awesome.
Message: Posted by: The Duster (Apr 27, 2018 09:13PM)
If you see this - probably don't get the Poker Chip Prophesy

Looks like it's only 5 min instructions - I'm sure the extra cost and getting Liam doing the instructions will be much better value

But if you prefer the dice version get that... as other than a 2nd reveal, it's the same effect as the Dia-bolical V2 that is a $200+ effect

Here's a review on Pengiun of the Poker Chip Prophesy [and why not to get that version]

"Don't waste ur money. The DVD is like 5 minutes long. There really aren't any presentation ideas at all. The chips look cheap and they are regular chips. The audience in the video didn't even have a great reaction . If you think about this routine some you can perform it without buying it at all . Don't waste your money like I did . "
Message: Posted by: BifKahuna (Apr 27, 2018 10:03PM)
Thanks for the advice. For the difference I agree I am going to go with Gamble and maybe Galaxian. I might just get the dice too even though it's the same thing sort of. Just because dice are cool too. LOL

I watched the video again on die 2 and the second reveal doesn't make much sense since we already revealed the two dice. So yep the price is to high for sure.
Message: Posted by: hektormagic (Apr 28, 2018 06:53PM)
The Duster, I think that Poker Chip Prophesy and The Gamble are different effects. But I repeat my wonder - why they sell it with wallet and normal chips which just increases the cost when these are not gimmick and the effect can be sell just like video download explanation (or pdf book) which will be much more cheaper and will save also the shipping costs!?
The effect can be done also with different coins, different colors dices etc., so the wallet and chips which obviously are normal are not necessary and just increase the price...
Message: Posted by: niva (May 2, 2018 03:51AM)
I prefer Casino Con!
Message: Posted by: art85y (Aug 19, 2018 03:50AM)
Isn't Casino Con an effect with a completely different M.O.?
Message: Posted by: art85y (Aug 21, 2018 05:36AM)
If the predicted chip is ... a) first out of the purse or b) last out of the purse (as in the video)...
...these are both strong outcomes and superb, BUT how strong, as a percentage, are the other two outcomes?
Message: Posted by: RNK (Aug 21, 2018 06:13AM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2018, art85y wrote:
If the predicted chip is ... a) first out of the purse or b) last out of the purse (as in the video)...
...these are both strong outcomes and superb, BUT how strong, as a percentage, are the other two outcomes? [/quote]

I guess it would be 25% or 1 in 4 chance since there are only four outcomes that can happen.

What's funny is, I have been hitting it lucky as the majority of the time the participant has removed it first! Lol..
Message: Posted by: C-suite magic (Aug 21, 2018 08:58AM)
I prefer the ***c* ***p coming out 2nd. Those who own the effect will know why. Very strong ending. However, all endings are strong, that's just the one I prefer. Mostly I perform this if I'm hanging around after a gig (waiting for payment, chatting to patrons, or saying goodbye to the hosts) and someone asks me to show them 'one more'. Very strong trick. Highly recommended, especially at such a low price point.
Message: Posted by: art85y (Aug 22, 2018 10:38AM)
C-suite. I see exactly what you mean, particularly in light of Liams's "feelings" about the first choice and instructing her to choose a different chip. Will say no more. getting into expo territory.
Message: Posted by: John C (Mar 13, 2019 08:16AM)
I suppose one could substitute a few different coins for this as well huh? And may be place the secret coin in a small envelope on the table.

You all still like this item?
Message: Posted by: John C (Mar 13, 2019 08:19AM)
[quote]On Apr 27, 2018, The Duster wrote:
Not sure if this helps - it's US based wallet version

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Poker-Chip-Prophesy-by-Steve-Cook-Trick/547885162 [/quote]


Walmart?
Message: Posted by: warren (Mar 13, 2019 01:49PM)
Lovely effect but I'm not a fan of multiple outs.
Message: Posted by: John C (Mar 13, 2019 02:00PM)
[quote]On Mar 13, 2019, warren wrote:
Lovely effect but I'm not a fan of multiple outs. [/quote]

it's what mentalism is mostly about. So, you're not a fan of mentalism?
Message: Posted by: magikmax (Mar 15, 2019 07:14PM)
This isnít really a trick of multiple outs. If youíre familiar with BíWave by Max Maven, a similar principle is used here to guide the spectator without specifically forcing. The wallet is used to keep the chips in, to provide a place for the chips to be mixed unseen by you and the spectator, and to hold the prediction. Itís ungimmicked. Itís a nice little trick with some nice thinking - that can be applied to other items once you have it, so you can do the trick with different coloured dice, coins, cards or similar stackable objects.

Liamís teaching here is excellent as usual, and it comes with both downloadable video instructions, and written instructions. Liam and Kaymar Magic constantly release good quality, highly commercial items that are both road tested and inexpensive. For anyone new to Kaymar, I would highly recommend Casino Kick. Itís a unique rainbow deck of different casino cut cards. Itís lovely. Ditto Rematch by Bob King, and Bagged! By Steve Cook. All very good tricks that are very easy to perform, all released without the unnecessary hype of some other magic dealers.
Message: Posted by: warren (Mar 19, 2019 01:12PM)
[quote]On Mar 13, 2019, John C wrote:
[quote]On Mar 13, 2019, warren wrote:
Lovely effect but I'm not a fan of multiple outs. [/quote]

it's what mentalism is mostly about. So, you're not a fan of mentalism? [/quote]

I'm a magician and only perform one effect that you could consider a mentalist type effect and that doesn't use multiple outs so although it's not my thing I'm not against mentalism and didn't mean to come across as someone who's against mentalism.
Message: Posted by: John C (Mar 20, 2019 11:48AM)
[quote]On Mar 19, 2019, warren wrote:
[quote]On Mar 13, 2019, John C wrote:
[quote]On Mar 13, 2019, warren wrote:
Lovely effect but I'm not a fan of multiple outs. [/quote]

it's what mentalism is mostly about. So, you're not a fan of mentalism? [/quote]

I'm a magician and only perform one effect that you could consider a mentalist type effect and that doesn't use multiple outs so although it's not my thing I'm not against mentalism and didn't mean to come across as someone who's against mentalism. [/quote]


I see. so you're not experienced with what the power of multiple outs can do? It's like me sort of I am not a fan of NW or PW but I do understand the power they can add to an effect and what types of effects can be performed. But they are not for me.

J
Message: Posted by: warren (Mar 21, 2019 03:08AM)
[quote]On Mar 20, 2019, John C wrote:
[quote]On Mar 19, 2019, warren wrote:
[quote]On Mar 13, 2019, John C wrote:
[quote]On Mar 13, 2019, warren wrote:
Lovely effect but I'm not a fan of multiple outs. [/quote]

it's what mentalism is mostly about. So, you're not a fan of mentalism? [/quote]

I'm a magician and only perform one effect that you could consider a mentalist type effect and that doesn't use multiple outs so although it's not my thing I'm not against mentalism and didn't mean to come across as someone who's against mentalism. [/quote]


I see. so you're not experienced with what the power of multiple outs can do? It's like me sort of I am not a fan of NW or PW but I do understand the power they can add to an effect and what types of effects can be performed. But they are not for me.

J [/quote]

I wouldn't go as far as to say I don't know the power of multiple outs as I've seen them used a great number of times and I have used the principle in the past but it's just that they aren't really for me, that's not to say I would never use one again at some point.
Message: Posted by: John C (Mar 24, 2019 04:55PM)
I'm still on the fence on this. Is there anything anyone can say to tip the scales?
Message: Posted by: Thomas Walter (Oct 14, 2019 03:51PM)
Is Gamble just a minor 'upgraded' version of Poker Chip Prophesy?
Message: Posted by: Doric (Oct 15, 2019 06:49AM)
[quote]On Mar 24, 2019, John C wrote:
I'm still on the fence on this. Is there anything anyone can say to tip the scales? [/quote]
My advice, buy the book. The trick is in there with many others.
Message: Posted by: hektormagic (Oct 17, 2019 08:28AM)
Which book, Doric?