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Topic: Roughing spray
Message: Posted by: Dollarbill (Jun 10, 2018 07:02PM)
Can you guys pm what you are using for rou** spray? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (Jun 10, 2018 07:34PM)
Testors Dulcote, Krylon Matte Finish 1311, Science Friction Spray, Plasti dip clear, Harry Robson roughing stick (back in stock at Vanishing Inc.)
Message: Posted by: Dollarbill (Jun 11, 2018 04:53PM)
Thanks Poof!
Message: Posted by: Dapperdan (Jun 15, 2018 12:10PM)
FWIW... I just purchased and used the Harry Robson stick that Poof mentions and it is great! SO much better than the brush-on roughing liquid I purchased before!
Message: Posted by: Dollarbill (Jun 15, 2018 06:45PM)
Thanks Dapper! I'll probably stick with the cheaper option right now tho. 😂. See what I did there? My can of roughing spray (probably testors) is leaving a yellowish tint on my cards. Probably has nuthing to do with it being every bit of 15 years old. hahaa!
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (Jun 15, 2018 07:16PM)
[quote]On Jun 15, 2018, Dollarbill wrote:
My can of roughing spray (probably testors) is leaving a yellowish tint on my cards. Probably has nuthing to do with it being every bit of 15 years old. hahaa! [/quote]
Do not spray it on so thick. that may be the reason rather than age. Hold the spray can about 8" away and a row of 13 cards should take no more than 1 second to pass over. If it looks like you missed some spots respray that row but faster his time (like 1/2 second fast) and it will be good enough when it dries.
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (Jun 15, 2018 07:17PM)
[quote]On Jun 15, 2018, Dapperdan wrote:
FWIW... I just purchased and used the Harry Robson stick that Poof mentions and it is great! SO much better than the brush-on roughing liquid I purchased before! [/quote]
What were you using that was "brush on"? That is one I have never heard of. Also, with the stick, do you have to rough both cards for it to work right like testors and dulcote or can you just do every other card (like SF Spray)?
Message: Posted by: Dapperdan (Jun 15, 2018 07:25PM)
[quote]On Jun 15, 2018, Poof-Daddy wrote:
[quote]On Jun 15, 2018, Dapperdan wrote:
FWIW... I just purchased and used the Harry Robson stick that Poof mentions and it is great! SO much better than the brush-on roughing liquid I purchased before! [/quote]
What were you using that was "brush on"? That is one I have never heard of. Also, with the stick, do you have to rough both cards for it to work right like testors and dulcote or can you just do every other card (like SF Spray)? [/quote]

I had picked up a bottle of Aldini’s Quick Fix Roughing Fluid. It goes on like nail polish.

As for the stick, Robson recommends doing both cards, and that seems to do pretty good. Also, in the video, he preps an entire Brainwave deck in 2 1/2 minutes. :)
Message: Posted by: Dollarbill (Jun 26, 2018 06:16PM)
Got me a can of testors today at Hobby Lobby. 👍. Even got 40% off coupon online on the way to the check out line! I think it was $3.22 total. 😃
Message: Posted by: servant (Aug 28, 2018 12:21PM)
I was contemplating getting Villain, but I don't have any experience with it yet.

https://www.ellusionist.com/review/product/list/id/2345/
Message: Posted by: Julie (Aug 28, 2018 02:58PM)
I remember back in the dark ages applying roughing fluid with a cotton ball...

Julie the Younger :)
Message: Posted by: Freddie Henderson (Aug 31, 2018 02:55AM)
Plastidip is the best I have found :)
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Apr 29, 2019 10:49PM)
Hi DB,


I haven't tried this myself, but somewhere I read a suggestion that instead you could scrawl on the card with a white crayon instead of using spray. The claim was that the crayon wouldn't show up. I liked the idea because crayons are presumably nontoxic. Has anyone tried this?



Bob
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Apr 30, 2019 10:30AM)
[quote]On Aug 28, 2018, Julie wrote:
I remember back in the dark ages applying roughing fluid with a cotton ball...

Julie the Younger :) [/quote]

Me too!
Message: Posted by: KokoB (May 2, 2019 08:17AM)
Ever try using a roughing stick? it works great! less chemicals, I use it all the time.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (May 2, 2019 11:40AM)
Roughing stick sounds like a good idea -- especially because you're not going to inhale any spray.
Message: Posted by: countrymaven (May 3, 2019 09:58PM)
I have heard roughing sticks do not last as long on a deck. Roughing fluid lasts a long time.
I just have to try some of the tips here with roughing fluid. The decks have it wrong. The cards are too hard to separate. It is not just the touch, etc. So thanks for the tips!
Message: Posted by: KokoB (May 4, 2019 07:12AM)
[quote]On May 3, 2019, countrymaven wrote:
I have heard roughing sticks do not last as long on a deck. Roughing fluid lasts a long time.
I just have to try some of the tips here with roughing fluid. The decks have it wrong. The cards are too hard to separate. It is not just the touch, etc. So thanks for the tips! [/quote]

I have made a deck with the roughing stick it's been well over 6 months & they still stick n unstick great.
Message: Posted by: fcchief1 (Jun 19, 2019 06:14PM)
I have used the stick for one particular effect and I only rough one card, works great although after about 10 performances, need to refresh it. And in the effect Monkey in the Middle, there is no need to seperate the cards until you reset it. Much easier to work with than roughing fluid also!
Message: Posted by: DrIlluminatus (Jun 24, 2019 01:17AM)
Been using testors for years no problem
Message: Posted by: Dollarbill (Jun 24, 2019 05:53PM)
I appreciate all of the feedback.👍 from everyone.👌
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Jul 11, 2019 12:59PM)
[quote]On Aug 31, 2018, Freddie Henderson wrote:
Plastidip is the best I have found :) [/quote]

Recently used Plasti-Dip for the first time to make an Invisible Deck. I think it's my new favorite.
Just a stripe across the middle like you'd use with the stick.

Only need to spray 26 cards, one light fast pass/dusting, very fast dry time.
Message: Posted by: warren (Jul 13, 2019 02:31PM)
An extra question for those that have used these various sprays, if I were to use any of these sprays on a bic lighter would it aid the grip when using a p****e move or would it just end up with dust etc stuck to the lighter due to the stickiness of the spray ?
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jul 13, 2019 07:16PM)
[quote]On Jul 13, 2019, warren wrote:
An extra question for those that have used these various sprays, if I were to use any of these sprays on a bic lighter would it aid the grip when using a p****e move or would it just end up with dust etc stuck to the lighter due to the stickiness of the spray ? [/quote]
Warren, if you are having a difficult time with a bic lighter and the p-move, a spot of double sided tape placed where your thumb goes may help, even a little spot of hot glue or dried superglue in that area may help with the move.
Message: Posted by: Dollarbill (Jul 13, 2019 11:15PM)
[quote]On Jul 13, 2019, Wravyn wrote:
[quote]On Jul 13, 2019, warren wrote:
An extra question for those that have used these various sprays, if I were to use any of these sprays on a bic lighter would it aid the grip when using a p****e move or would it just end up with dust etc stuck to the lighter due to the stickiness of the spray ? [/quote]
Warren, if you are having a difficult time with a bic lighter and the p-move, a spot of double sided tape placed where your thumb goes may help, even a little spot of hot glue or dried superglue in that area may help with the move. [/quote]

I agree, also don't forget you can do the designer electrical tape lighter. 🙂. 1band , 2 banded, fully banded. And the ol’ “lick the fingers b4” you go. 🤦🏼‍♂️ (Im guilty) or wet the bottom of your undershirt shirt for a coupla’ inches so you can pinch on it.
Message: Posted by: warren (Jul 14, 2019 01:07AM)
Thanks for the input,it's only with the bic lighters that I struggle due to dry hands however when my hands have a little moisture it's easy.
The simple answer as you say is to lick the fingers however I would prefer to avoid that if possible.
I might try a bit of super glue on the sides as Wravyn mentioned.
Message: Posted by: Josepher (Jul 24, 2019 09:13AM)
I've used Krylon Matte Finish 1311 for years, but once I tried a Roughing Stick the paint can went on the shelf.
(I'm still trying to figure out what household tasks need clear paint.)

I never make my own decks, I just restore the function of worn decks.
The stick is expensive, compared to paint, but much easier to use, and lasts a long time.
Message: Posted by: JoshDude849 (Aug 24, 2019 12:25AM)
What effects could you possibly do with a "Roughed" deck besides an invisible deck kind of trick?
Message: Posted by: Rizzo (Aug 24, 2019 09:27AM)
[quote]On Aug 24, 2019, JoshDude849 wrote:
What effects could you possibly do with a "Roughed" deck besides an invisible deck kind of trick? [/quote]


Kidding right?
Message: Posted by: Chamberlain (Aug 30, 2019 04:33AM)
I also use Harry Robsons roughing stick for making Invisible Decks, I use the long side of the stick and swipe over the middle of the cards twice. Every so often I'll go back and refresh my deck for the occasional cards that loose their tackyness.
Message: Posted by: ryanshaw9572 (Aug 30, 2019 12:27PM)
I like the roughing stick as well, although I can see the roughing material— it’s not completely invisible. Anything I’m doing wrong?
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Sep 15, 2019 06:25PM)
JoshDude,


I don't know the answer to your question, but I know there's a lot you can do. Don't give up -- look for videos on the web, start a new thread on the Café with your question, look at Penguinmagic.com and vanishingmagic.com, and I'm sure you'll get some answers.


And I hope you won't give up on the Café because of one unpleasant response. Most people here are really helpful.


Bob
Message: Posted by: Terry Holley (Oct 25, 2019 11:26PM)
[quote]On Aug 24, 2019, JoshDude849 wrote:
What effects could you possibly do with a "Roughed" deck besides an invisible deck kind of trick? [/quote]
Check this book out (“Roughingly Yours”). I’ve found many people aren’t aware of it.

https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/book/1231
Message: Posted by: JoshDude849 (Oct 26, 2019 12:41PM)
Hmm okay, will do!!!

Josh
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (Oct 27, 2019 03:21PM)
Also try https://trickshop.com/roughing-fluid-cards.html
“Rough Stuff” is a valuable resource for gaffing and making R&S decks.