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Topic: Songwriting
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Aug 20, 2018 12:20PM)
More and more I'm feeling inspired to write "my own" songs. I'm particular about lyrics and find it difficult to
sing songs that have lyrics I disagree with. I find, too, an overriding negativity in the lyrics of many songs.

Here's an example I'm being kind of picky with- I do get the point of the lyric- but I still want to say, "Any girl can find satins and lace in a thrift store, sir. :)" And maybe Elvis would have said something of that sort, if he'd written this song:

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What do you think? Why do songwriters write?

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Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Aug 20, 2018 06:27PM)
The same reason dancers dance, writers write and magicians... magish? Basically, most people need some way to express themselves in some way.
Message: Posted by: lynnef (Aug 28, 2018 01:15PM)
Definitely write, sing, play. I love the story of "Cave of Forgotten Dreams" where a 40,000 year old flute was found. There were no such things as superstars making millions back then, but there was still that need to express one's heart. Lynn
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Aug 30, 2018 11:20AM)
I cant find the clip, but I remember Robert Vaughn inventing the flute in I Was A Teenaged Caveman!
Message: Posted by: lynnef (Sep 1, 2018 12:25PM)
[quote]On Aug 30, 2018, ed rhodes wrote:
I cant find the clip, but I remember Robert Vaughn inventing the flute in I Was A Teenaged Caveman! [/quote]

I laughed out loud when I looked this up! Suffice it to say without spoiling that teenaged Robert Vaughn may have been the second person to invent the flute! Lynn
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Sep 2, 2018 05:31PM)
People are not songwriters because they write songs. People write songs because they are songwriters. They are it. It can not be silenced. It is who and what they are.

I am in performance art because I have no choice. I could do nothing else. It is who I am. So write, play, sing and anything that expresses who and what you are at your core! Dress right spell differently, or any expression that is you.
Message: Posted by: S2000magician (Sep 3, 2018 02:31PM)
[quote]On Aug 20, 2018, magicalaurie wrote:
[img]https://magicalaurieblog.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/img_20180818_101610.jpg[/img][/quote]
Perhaps you're inspired by the Cobra and the . . . what is it? . . . a Testa Rossa?
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Sep 3, 2018 11:13PM)
No, but I could be inspired by the Buick Model 25 Touring 1913.

[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Buick_Modell_25_Touring_1913.jpg[/img]

:)
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Sep 4, 2018 01:43AM)
That's a beautiful car.

Sometimes songs take songwriters to their boundaries and beyond.
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Sep 8, 2018 03:08PM)
I'd be more than happy to help. :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :dancing:
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Sep 8, 2018 05:01PM)
Thank you all for posting. Moral support is quite helpful and I appreciate it. That's the kind of help I need. :)
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Sep 11, 2018 10:46AM)
I wonder how many popular singers actually write their own songs? To me it seems that writing and singing are two separate skill sets and most people don't have either, especially myself which is why I only sing in the shower and in my car with all windows rolled up :)
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Sep 11, 2018 11:20AM)
It is a strange thing. While Elvis recorded about 850 songs he wrote very close to zero. Many singers today do not write. MOST as a matter of fact.

The singer/songwriter is revered but is a very rare thing.

Yes two skills. Elvis was no less an amazing artist. He just didn't happen to write songs.
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Sep 11, 2018 02:16PM)
Performing involves integrated skills. In my view, it's intricate, and I think many artists are able to express themselves artistically across the board, if they choose to. Given more time, I think Elvis may have chosen to write. He was an extremely skillful collaborator and director. Generally, he knew the material he performed inside out. Talented actor, as well, who knew the scripts he was given weren't up to snuff.
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Sep 11, 2018 03:44PM)
Https://www.elvis.com.au/presley/elvis-musical-style-as-a-musician-and-impact-as-a-vocalist-and-stage-performer.shtml
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Jan 24, 2020 02:21PM)
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Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jan 29, 2020 10:04PM)
A critic once observed that Bob Dylan wrote GREAT songs... for other people to record. They DO seem to sound better from other people!
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Sep 15, 2020 09:27PM)
I've decided recently to take songwriting off the table, or more specifically, melody writing. Though most excellent melodies are simple, I find melodies very difficult to write, and have struggled to compose them.

I don't expect melody writing to be easy, but it doesn't seem, at least right now, to be in my wheelhouse, really. There's a constant concern with songwriting that the melody may actually be someone else's that you've inadvertently actually copied or are unaware of and that's a tough one to vet.

I'm much better at dealing with words alone, so I think I'll continue to focus that way in terms of writing. I work at a variety of challenging, time consuming arts/crafts- including close-up magic- so I think letting go of songwriting will give me some peace. I'm in good company, as has been mentioned by Danny, so truly, I think I'm fine with it.

There I go thinking out loud again, FWIW. :handcuffs: :spinningcoin: :magician:
Message: Posted by: landmark (Sep 15, 2020 09:54PM)
I think we once did a thread on favorite singer/songwriters.

No doubt they are related but different fields, and excellence in one area by no means implies even competence in the other.

And then add to that playing an instrument excellently, and you narrow down the field even further. We don't expect actors to be playwrights, or magicians to be inventors of effects, though some are. It's quite possible to achieve success by just doing one thing really well with character.
Message: Posted by: gallagher (Sep 16, 2020 04:08AM)
Hey Laurie, greetings.
As you mentioned, "..difficulties in song-writing.",
*bing!* went off in my head. 😳

Pete Seeger wrote a fine book,
'The Incompleat Folksinger'.
(i highly,..highly recommend the book!)

He talks a great deal about 'this',..
and other 'challenges', as a potential Songwriter.

He also adds,...and AGRUES(!),
that we ALL have the potential!
,....and certain 'tricks' and technique.....help.

'The Incompleat Folksinger'......brilliant.

p.s.: Mary Gauthier is also,..very helpful.
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Sep 16, 2020 09:13AM)
I will check that out, gallagher, thank you.

Thank you for your thoughts, too, landmark. :)