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Topic: Brass Coin Casket Prediction
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 4, 2018 08:18PM)
Airship Magics vastest release.......

https://airshipmagic.com/store/home/65-classic-brass-coin-prediction-casket.html

Ad Copy:

A performer produces a brass coin box, wafer thin and a 1/2 dollar Kennedy coin. The performer requests that a random spectator
open the box, and place the Kennedy half dollar into the box either heads up or tails up while the performer's back is turned. After the
spectator has placed the coin in the casket and replaced the lid, the performer is asked to turn back around.

The spectator is then given back the box and before the spectator can fully return the box to the spectator, it is instantly revealed which
side of the coin is facing, upon removing the lid, the performers prediction is correct. This can be repeated as many times as you like.

There are no stooges, threads, magnets, external indications or peeking or switching.

Includes is 1 Precision Turned Brass Coin Casket, Regular Kennedy Half dollar, velvet bag for storage and routine instructions.

These are in limited production due to time to machine them.

Please Note, we do all our own manufacturing here in our shops and everything is made in the USA.
Message: Posted by: rowdymagi5 (Nov 5, 2018 01:14PM)
I am a little confused by the statement "The spectator is then given back the box and before the spectator can fully return the box to the spectator". Huh? Are there two spectators involved? Does the performer never touch the box?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 5, 2018 05:52PM)
Typo in the ad, let me go fix that, sorry for the confusion.
Message: Posted by: John C (Nov 5, 2018 07:03PM)
Cool
Message: Posted by: rockbrunnen (Nov 5, 2018 10:29PM)
Does this work with a silver Kennedy? Or only with the coin provided?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 5, 2018 11:06PM)
This will work with any silver Kennedy, the one provided is a real Silver Kennedy half.
Message: Posted by: rockbrunnen (Nov 6, 2018 12:44AM)
[quote]On Nov 5, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
This will work with any silver Kennedy, the one provided is a real Silver Kennedy half. [/quote]

Great! Now I cannot resist!
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Nov 6, 2018 02:43PM)
Just ordered... looks great and a fair price!

John
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Nov 6, 2018 03:12PM)
Have looked for this effect for awhile but has proven elusive, glad to now be able to get one. Jake and team's brass work was very good on their Hydro Die and assume that level of quality will be on this item as well. Honestly would be happy to pay that price even if a half was not included.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 6, 2018 03:37PM)
Thank you John, it's all packaged up. I hope you enjoy the effect.
Message: Posted by: rowdymagi5 (Nov 13, 2018 07:09AM)
I received this, and I must say it is very clever and very well made. You do not need to look at the box at all. As a matter of fact, you can simply put the box on the table, or hand it to someone else as quickly as you want, as you immediately know the orientation of the coin in a split second.

You could come up with many routines for this. For example, have them place the coin in the box, wrap the coin with rubber bands, wrap a silk or handkerchief around the box. You them take the silk wrapped box and quickly set it on the table. A little time misdirection and you eventually make the revelation. Simple and priced right!
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Nov 13, 2018 07:56PM)
This is one fantastic piece of precision work. You instantly know heads or tails. You will not regret buying this.

Steve
Message: Posted by: dooblehorn (Nov 14, 2018 04:33AM)
Yes, grabbed one up, looks nice and fair price...this will go great with my recently ordered Die-Cipher 2
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 14, 2018 06:53AM)
I want to thank a potential international customer that wrote us and informed us that International Orders would not go through.
We located the problem in the check out Cart and have fixed it. International payments will now go through successfully.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: rockbrunnen (Nov 14, 2018 07:16AM)
[quote]On Nov 14, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
I want to thank a potential international customer that wrote us and informed us that International Orders would not go through.
We located the problem in the check out Cart and have fixed it. International payments will now go through successfully.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr. [/quote]

Hi. I still encounter the error message "There are no carriers that deliver to the address you selected" and cannot go further.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 14, 2018 07:41AM)
I'll check this right now. I created a new USPS carrier to all countries permitted. If someone could try again we'd appreciate it.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 14, 2018 08:21AM)
Hi. I still encounter the error message "There are no carriers that deliver to the address you selected" and cannot go further. [/quote]

It should be fixed, I opened all available countries with a new dedicated Carrier script. If you're still have a problem,
Just message PM me here so we don't keep bumping the thread.

Thank you,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 15, 2018 04:44PM)
International users for now can email us through the website and we can send you an invoice if you would like to order that way. Paypal is correcting some settings for us which may take several
days. Sorry for the inconvenience .

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 16, 2018 06:49AM)
Ordered this morning.Been looking for one of these.
Todd
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 16, 2018 11:19AM)
It occurs to me that this could be a useful addition to a which hand routine and so add another dimension to the overall effect.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Nov 16, 2018 12:53PM)
Was thinking the same Neil... being brass it will work with the required coin.... waiting for mine to arrive to play with the idea.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 16, 2018 01:21PM)
Great minds think alike ;-)
Message: Posted by: videoman (Nov 16, 2018 01:36PM)
Hey, you guys stole my idea!
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 16, 2018 01:42PM)
Welcome to the Great Minds Club :-)
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Nov 16, 2018 01:48PM)
LOL!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 16, 2018 02:00PM)
[quote]On Nov 16, 2018, NeilS wrote:
It occurs to me that this could be a useful addition to a which hand routine and so add another dimension to the overall effect. [/quote


I also was thinking the same thing.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 16, 2018 02:22PM)
Yeah, we have another member of the club!

Welcome :-)
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 16, 2018 06:53PM)
Can I Join?
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Nov 16, 2018 07:43PM)
[quote]On Nov 14, 2018, dooblehorn wrote:
Yes, grabbed one up, looks nice and fair price...this will go great with my recently ordered Die-Cipher 2 [/quote]

I'm with you, dooblehorn! Just received this. Beautiful piece! P&L quality. And it WILL go great with my Die-Cipher.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Nov 16, 2018 08:33PM)
[quote]On Nov 16, 2018, rosariorose9 wrote:
[quote]On Nov 14, 2018, dooblehorn wrote:
Yes, grabbed one up, looks nice and fair price...this will go great with my recently ordered Die-Cipher 2 [/quote]

I'm with you, dooblehorn! Just received this. Beautiful piece! P&L quality. And it WILL go great with my Die-Cipher. [/quote]

Yes, a lot of similarities between these 2 products.
You can present them as proof of your amazing ability to see through brass.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 18, 2018 09:35AM)
I have emailed several questions to Jake about this product and Jake has really been helpful and prompt. Excellent service and much appreciated.

Also, while I am in the UK and this is mainly dependent on using a US coin, I can see this could be a very versatile item and could be incorporated into various routines. One I have in mind is having 4 (or more) coins from different countries and forcing one using equivoque or another means. Then showing the 'prediction' in the coin casket and proceeding with an effect on the orientation of the coin and concluding with a which hand routine.

I think this could play and flow very nicely.

Neil
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Nov 18, 2018 10:23AM)
Hey Neil, that sounds like awesome routining. Should get mine next week.

Best

Steve
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 18, 2018 11:07AM)
Glad you like the routine Steve.

I forgot to mention, to perform the exact routine I have in mind, you'd need two Kennedy half dollars.

Neil
Message: Posted by: IanB (Nov 18, 2018 01:50PM)
Hi Jake
Just dropped you an email before I saw this thread. Looking to place an order for 2 of them.
I have an original Nemo Six released by Ken Brooke that I'm assuming this is based on? Almost impossible to find now and I've been after another for some time.
Can yours fit a "turtle"? If so I so could do the original routine.
Very excited to get hold of this.
Thanks
Ian B
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 19, 2018 05:05PM)
Thank you to the international customers who tried to purchase the Coin Casket.

Good News, we imported Paypal checkout service to the cart and replaced the e-commerce version. So now this is just like using your regular Paypal and with Paypal's security.
Everything is now working fine.

Thank you to all that have supported this effect and if there are any further issues, please contact us. We have a support email link on the store's site.

With Thanks,
Jake jr. , Jamie K. and Frederick.
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Nov 19, 2018 05:21PM)
Hey Jake, got mine today and this thing is great. I can't tell you how easy this is. You only have to touch it literally for a second. Already performed this today. Great job and great workmanship.

Best

Steve
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 19, 2018 05:44PM)
Received mine today also.As steven said very easy to use.
I love it.Thanks Jake
Todd :thumbsup:
Message: Posted by: martini (Nov 20, 2018 10:24PM)
Greetings;

Jake, you have a winner, I love it. Quality brass work and precision craftsmanship and very deceptive to boot. The more I play with it, the more ideas keep popping up. This is what I have worked up so far:

Start out by explaining that you have a half dollar that is haunted, ask the spectator if they ever played heads or tails. Explain that the idea is to toss a coin in the air, catch it and slap it down on the back of the hand and to try to call either heads or tails, whichever they think it might be. Offer to let them guess a couple of times, then say that when you obtained this haunted coin it was kept in a brass box that prevented the spirits from getting out.

You offer to give a demonstration by having them place the coin in the box and put the lid on it, while your back is
turned towards them so you could not possibly see which side they placed face up in the box. When you turn around just look at the box and you will know which is up, heads or tails, but get the glimpse casually while talking and
saying that you are not even going to touch the box. (you already know the answer) Have them touch a single finger to your palm and then wave that palm above the box by about 6 inches and announce if it is heads or tails up.

Allow them to open the box and sure enough, you are right. Offer to repeat it again, this time when they have the lid
on the box, turn part way enough to get a look at the box and very quickly say, "I will keep myself turned around, so did you put the coin in with the side of your choice facing up? They respond yes, So now tell them that without even turning around the coin is talking to you and telling you that it is_______up. They open the box and verify again.

Now place the bottom of the box in the left open hand palm up so the box is right over the spot where the two middle fingers touch the hand. Place the coin in the box heads up saying you want the eyes of the coin to watch you close.
Now pick up the lid between the right hand forefinger and thumb with the right hand palm down adn come across to put the lid on, but as the right hand comes in front of the left, the left fingers lift up hidden by the semi cupped right hand and reverse the box and coin like an Okito box, and place the lid on the base of the box bottom and slide it all
up to the center of the left hand palm keeping the top and bottom together making it look like you just merely put the lid on when in actuality you have reverse the base with the coin in it and now hold it looking like it normally would.

now the right hand comes back over and as the right forefinger and thumb grab both parts (top and bottom) the right hand again covers the left fingertips, as you lift both parts up, leaving the coin in the left hand, and at the same time closing the left hand and turning it over palm down closed. The right hand places both parts of the box together on top of the left hand and you have the spectator hold their hands cupped a foot under your. Open the left fingers and the coin will fall into their hand having penetrated the hand. As soon as you release the coin, the right hand comes over and picks up both parts together and the left hand turns palm up. the right hand about 6 inches above the left open palm, and the right thumb releases pressure holding the base enough to allow it to drop. Because you are still holding the forefinger against the side of both pieces, and only moving the right thumb enough to allow the base to drop, it will flip over as it falls into the open left hand. You explain that the haunted coin hates to be placed
in that box and often escapes every chance it gets. The box and lid along with the coin can be left sitting on the table with nothing for them to find.

It reads a little long, but this is how I'm going to use it. Just thought you may want a different presentation to
play with. There are lots of ways of using this, you should start collecting presentations and routines and put a
booklet out in the future, I'm sure many others will develop their own styles.

Again I have to Say Thank You Jake. This is surely a prop that you can be proud of. I highly recommend it.

All the Best
Marty
Message: Posted by: dooblehorn (Nov 20, 2018 11:13PM)
Got mine yesterday, it's great, beautiful and the clever method is Sooooooo Easy.
Marty, great routine ideas!
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (Nov 21, 2018 12:43AM)
[quote]On Nov 20, 2018, martini wrote:

You offer to give a demonstration by having them place the coin in the box and put the lid on it, while your back is
turned towards them so you could not possibly see which side they placed face up in the box. When you turn around just look at the box and you will know which is up, heads or tails, but get the glimpse casually while talking and
saying that you are not even going to touch the box. (you already know the answer) Have them touch a single finger to your palm and then wave that palm above the box by about 6 inches and announce if it is heads or tails up.

[/quote]

Maybe I'm missing something, but how can that be done using the method for this prop?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 21, 2018 12:54AM)
Message Martini, he'll explain it to you. It's another feature built into the box I didn't include in the routine as I was working on one specifically for the feature, but Martini picked up on it
and exploited it very well in his routine he outlined. If you have the box, I can explain it to you.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 21, 2018 02:22PM)
I'm really looking forward to this.

Not only can the effect be themed in various ways but it takes up so little pocket space.

With this I think Jake has a real winner on his hands.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Nov 21, 2018 02:40PM)
I agree... Canada Post has ongoing strike issues so mine has been delayed, but definitely have a few ideas I want to try with this.
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (Nov 21, 2018 03:35PM)
[quote]On Nov 21, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
Message Martini, he'll explain it to you. It's another feature built into the box I didn't include in the routine as I was working on one specifically for the feature, but Martini picked up on it
and exploited it very well in his routine he outlined. If you have the box, I can explain it to you.

Jake Jr. [/quote]

Think I have it figured, after looking closely at things. Sent Marty a PM just to make sure that's it.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 22, 2018 06:44AM)
[/quote]

Think I have it figured, after looking closely at things. Sent Marty a PM just to make sure that's it. [/quote]

My brother is writing a couple of new routines he's developed for it. Once he is finished it will be emailed to all customers via our e-store.

Again I wish to thank everyone for the great receptions of the effect.

Jake Jr & Crew
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 22, 2018 11:21PM)
Ordered my backup coin casket tonight so many applacations for this.
Todd
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 23, 2018 09:02AM)
The working of this is absolutely brilliant. Am really delighted.

A definite worker and something I know I will use regularly and enjoy using. Plus it looks good too.

A big thumbs up.

Neil
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Nov 23, 2018 09:16AM)
Received mine. I am quite pleased. This will NOT join the stuff that I have bought, tidied, and never performed.

As someone already suggested, this can be used as part of another effect.

George
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 23, 2018 04:21PM)
And I know of at least three method's you can use
to know which side is up.A very fooling piece indeed.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 23, 2018 04:41PM)
V by Manos would also work with this.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 23, 2018 04:58PM)
My brother Frederick is working on a routine booklet for the Coin Casket. When he completes it, it will be a free E-book that will be automatically emailed to anyone that purchased one.
My brother is quite creative, I know I'm biased. Happy Holidays everyone and thank you again for the super response to this.

Jake Jr & Crew
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 23, 2018 05:48PM)
That sounds wonderful Jake look forward to seeing it.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Nov 23, 2018 09:37PM)
Great prop, highly recommended!
How many wonderful recommendations do you need?
Just send MJ your money right now. You wonít regret it.
Message: Posted by: rockbrunnen (Nov 23, 2018 11:21PM)
Waiting mine to arrive. Hope they will release one dollar version in the future. I think it would look even more gorgeous.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 24, 2018 07:06AM)
[quote]On Nov 24, 2018, rockbrunnen wrote:
Waiting mine to arrive. Hope they will release one dollar version in the future. I think it would look even more gorgeous. [/quote]

The thought of a dollar size as well crossed our minds. Quality brass bar stock is expensive, the diameter needed to make these now allowed us to
keep it at a price that everyone could afford.

For a dollar size casket, it wouldn't be a factor of needing more brass but the cost of the Brass Bar diameter, based on current costs we would have to charge between 75-85 dollars for a dollar size.
I just don't see that being advantageous for any of us.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: rockbrunnen (Nov 24, 2018 07:24AM)
[quote]On Nov 24, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
[quote]On Nov 24, 2018, rockbrunnen wrote:
Waiting mine to arrive. Hope they will release one dollar version in the future. I think it would look even more gorgeous. [/quote]

The thought of a dollar size as well crossed our minds. Quality brass bar stock is expensive, the diameter needed to make these now allowed us to
keep it at a price that everyone could afford.

For a dollar size casket, it wouldn't be a factor of needing more brass but the cost of the Brass Bar diameter, based on current costs we would have to charge between 75-85 dollars for a dollar size.
I just don't see that being advantageous for any of us.

Jake Jr. [/quote]

OK. I now understand what it takes to produce one dollar version. Thank you for the explanation.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Nov 24, 2018 09:07AM)
This looks like fun and the price is very reasonable, particularly with free shipping. Order placed!

Mark
Message: Posted by: psychod (Nov 24, 2018 06:37PM)
I'm a sucker for metal props and ordered this yesterday. After reading through all of the comments, I can't wait for mine to arrive so I can start playing with it. From what I've read, it looks like this will be one of the better Black Friday purchases I made!

Dave
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Nov 24, 2018 09:03PM)
Just received my shipping notice. Since it's Saturday night I suspect it won't go anywhere until Monday. Priority Mail so it should be here by Thursday.

Mark
Message: Posted by: aligator (Nov 25, 2018 09:23AM)
Wondering which which hand routine would work best with this as I do not use one at present and only would as part of a bigger demonstration which one could build with coin casket. I like Neils suggestions and will be consulting him. The bigger question for me is finding a sure fire which hand? Does Tequila Huster work 100% of the time? If not, any other suggestions?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 25, 2018 09:34AM)
Yes it works 100% You can also look into Manos's work.
His book is called V2.Their is a effect in it called Verbalist.
Which works with two people.You will not only know which of the
4 hands the coin is in.But who is lying and who is telling the truth.
And it works 100% also.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 25, 2018 10:09AM)
With Which Hand it is a case of personal preference. There are some brilliant routines and variations out there and with, IMHO, Tequila Hustler and Manos's work undoubtedly the best.
I'll be posting a routine idea for the casket shortly. Stay tuned.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Nov 25, 2018 10:28AM)
Looking forward to it Neil.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 25, 2018 02:37PM)
Here is the routine which occurred to me this morning. It is only the bare bones but I hope it will be of value to some.

You hand the coin and casket to a spectator and ask them to decide on the orientation of the coin and to place the coin in the casket heads or tails up, whichever they have decided upon. They are then asked to close the casket and to put it in the small red bag provided (and which comes with the set.)

You take the bag and place it on your outstretched left hand (or table if you wish) and say you are going to determine whether the coin is heads or tails up, and you will use a method shown to you by your grandfather many years ago.

You bring out a small pendulum and hold it above the bag, saying that if the pendulum swings in a circular fashion, the coin will be heads up, if to and fro, then it will be tails up.

And the way the pendulum swings is correct - every time.

The routine is all the more bewildering because everything seems so fair and there is no need for the performer to remove the casket from the red bag until the very end of the routine.

As I say, this is just the gist but using a pendulum could help dress the effect up very nicely. And what is more, it is so easy to do and with nothing else in play - just the coin, casket, red bag, pendulum and, of course, the secret known only to you.

Neil
Message: Posted by: aligator (Nov 25, 2018 03:05PM)
Good thinking Neil. So it is true that we always make our best decisions first thing in the morning. I was also thinking that another possibility for presentation would be to give a brief reading to the spec based on their choice and before revealment, beginning with introvert/extrovert etc.

I am sure there will be more ideas presented moving forward.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 25, 2018 03:31PM)
Yes I could see that working nicely.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Nov 25, 2018 03:39PM)
Planning to order this tomorrow as long as it seems postal settlement imminent.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 25, 2018 04:37PM)
We're packing and shipping 24/7, the post office is just 2 blocks from our one shop and the night drop is a big help.
I'd like to take the time to wish everyone a happy holiday season and to thank you for all your support, it means a lot to all of us.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr & Crew
Message: Posted by: aligator (Nov 25, 2018 05:33PM)
The postal problems are at my end, not yours.....rotating strikes.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Nov 27, 2018 08:39AM)
Ordered. Will review when received.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Nov 27, 2018 11:07AM)
The more that I perform this effect, the more that I like martini's 'hands off' version. Absolutely baffling to the specs...
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Nov 27, 2018 01:07PM)
As I quickly discovered, having a spectator putting the casket into the bag before handing it to you adds another layer of impossibility to the effect and does not interfere with the working either.

This effect is a real gem.

Neil
Message: Posted by: aligator (Nov 27, 2018 05:21PM)
Thanks for the recommendation and all. Looking forward to receiving mine.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 28, 2018 12:05PM)
If anyone wants their routine published in my brother's e-book, please let me know. You will of course be credited for the routine in the e-book.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Nov 28, 2018 07:53PM)
Mad Jake:

By al means, publish Neil's effect (above). It is a splendid perspective AND helped me discover a big reason for keeping the red bag.

George
Message: Posted by: Alex DLF (Nov 29, 2018 02:19AM)
Ordered from France today, I'm a sucker for brass made gimmick so this was a no brainer. Amazing price too !
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 29, 2018 07:18AM)
[quote]On Nov 29, 2018, Alex DLF wrote:
Ordered from France today, I'm a sucker for brass made gimmick so this was a no brainer. Amazing price too ! [/quote]

Thank you Alex. Your Coin Casket has already shipped this morning. Enjoy the effect.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Alex DLF (Nov 29, 2018 07:20AM)
[quote]On Nov 29, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
[quote]On Nov 29, 2018, Alex DLF wrote:
Ordered from France today, I'm a sucker for brass made gimmick so this was a no brainer. Amazing price too ! [/quote]

Thank you Alex. Your Coin Casket has already shipped this morning. Enjoy the effect.

Jake Jr. [/quote]

Wow, that was fast, hope the post service is as quick as you :o
Message: Posted by: aligator (Nov 29, 2018 10:07AM)
Although I don't have mine yet and may be waiting awhile due to parcel backlog in Canada, I think that Neil's idea is a good one and I will probably be using it. I have a few ideas as well but will wait till I actually have the casket before discussing them.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Nov 29, 2018 11:31AM)
Am in the same boat aligator... mine has been in Canada Post limbo for a few weeks.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Nov 29, 2018 01:07PM)
Please let us know JM when your parcel arrives so we will know things are moving. You will likely receive it long before me. I have a parcel held up 2 weeks from UK and if present info is correct, I should not expect it before January.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Nov 29, 2018 01:19PM)
Will do and knowing Canada Post you may get yours first....
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 29, 2018 07:15PM)
Sorry to hear about the postal woes in Canada. If you wouldn't mind, please let me know when they arrive to you, now I'm nervous.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Nov 30, 2018 09:13AM)
I wouldn't worry. We'll get them eventually.
Message: Posted by: John7 (Nov 30, 2018 11:46AM)
Mine arrived today. It's a beautiful quality piece. Great effect for such little pocket space. Could someone tell me the other feature mentioned earlier in the thread because I've examined it and can't see anything (by PM preferably so as not to give any secrets away).

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: John7 (Nov 30, 2018 01:15PM)
My question has been answered by Jake so no need for any other replies, thanks.
Message: Posted by: John7 (Nov 30, 2018 09:19PM)
Although, just to add, I've been playing with this all night - it's exquisitely machined (and the secret is deviously hidden but can be hidden further by the appropriate presentation)
Message: Posted by: rockbrunnen (Dec 1, 2018 06:20AM)
I received the casket today. Way beyond my expectation. This one is my best purchase in 2018.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 1, 2018 06:37AM)
[quote]On Dec 1, 2018, rockbrunnen wrote:
I received the casket today. Way beyond my expectation. This one is my best purchase in 2018. [/quote]

I agree. When the thread for the best effects of 2018 starts, this will be included in my top three.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 1, 2018 08:51AM)
I have been waiting for that thread to start. Not sure that I have a top 3 at this point, so I would prefer that it is started by someone who does.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Dec 1, 2018 09:33AM)
My casket arrived. Such a beautifully made piece of magical apparatus. Ingenious, too! Not only does it belong in best effects of 2018, it also belongs in best value of 2018.

Thank you, Jake!

Mark
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 1, 2018 09:55AM)
These reviews only serve to whet my appetite even more.....oh, the agony of waiting.
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Dec 1, 2018 10:14AM)
Neil:

Not to detract at alt from the Coin Casket, but what are your other two n your 2018 top three?

George
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 1, 2018 11:19AM)
One of them is 'Blinking' good and it may be a bit Underhanded to mention the other one. There have been some very good releases this year - and some duffs - but as far as the coin casket is concerned, I can see this ranking alongside the much heralded Die-cipher, although the method is different (and easier.)
Message: Posted by: Tom G (Dec 1, 2018 08:36PM)
Received mine today, props to Jake. Well made and quite easy to perform. I am looking forward to his ebook.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 2, 2018 04:21PM)
As of today, we broke the 125 unit mark on these. Thank you so much everyone. We're so happy you are enjoying this effect.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 2, 2018 04:33PM)
When you offer something good at a reasonable price, that's what happens.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 3, 2018 05:41AM)
[quote]On Dec 2, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
As of today, we broke the 125 unit mark on these. Thank you so much everyone. [/quote]

Congratulations and very well deserved.

I know this does not help those in Canada who have been experiencing a postal strike, but shipping to the UK was very quick and the service from Airship Magic excellent.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 3, 2018 08:13AM)
[quote]On Dec 1, 2018, NeilS wrote:
[quote]On Dec 1, 2018, rockbrunnen wrote:
I received the casket today. Way beyond my expectation. This one is my best purchase in 2018. [/quote]

I agree. When the thread for the best effects of 2018 starts, this will be included in my top three. [/quote]


Just ordered because of you!!
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 3, 2018 09:36AM)
[quote]On Nov 16, 2018, NeilS wrote:
Welcome to the Great Minds Club :-) [/quote]

I wanna be a member. I should be receiving mine soon. My coin casket...not my mind.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 3, 2018 09:46AM)
[quote]On Nov 25, 2018, NeilS wrote:
Here is the routine which occurred to me this morning. It is only the bare bones but I hope it will be of value to some.

You hand the coin and casket to a spectator and ask them to decide on the orientation of the coin and to place the coin in the casket heads or tails up, whichever they have decided upon. They are then asked to close the casket and to put it in the small red bag provided (and which comes with the set.)

You take the bag and place it on your outstretched left hand (or table if you wish) and say you are going to determine whether the coin is heads or tails up, and you will use a method shown to you by your grandfather many years ago.

You bring out a small pendulum and hold it above the bag, saying that if the pendulum swings in a circular fashion, the coin will be heads up, if to and fro, then it will be tails up.

And the way the pendulum swings is correct - every time.

The routine is all the more bewildering because everything seems so fair and there is no need for the performer to remove the casket from the red bag until the very end of the routine.

As I say, this is just the gist but using a pendulum could help dress the effect up very nicely. And what is more, it is so easy to do and with nothing else in play - just the coin, casket, red bag, pendulum and, of course, the secret known only to you.

Neil [/quote]

good idea. After this use scan 3d to do a few which hands.
Message: Posted by: TheGingerWizard (Dec 3, 2018 09:50AM)
If you are fairly competent with a pendulum you could, after the first demonstration with you holding the pendulum, have another specrator who hasnít seen the coin hold the pendulum .......
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 3, 2018 11:46AM)
I would worry that using a pendulum with a metal casket might arise suspicion that a magnet might be in play?
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 3, 2018 04:54PM)
I like pendulums and have many but now never use them when any metal involved....
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 4, 2018 01:48AM)
It never occurred to me about the possibility of magnets coming into play. My pendulum is crystal so hopefully the idea will not occur to spectators - as if there was anything underhand going on anyway ;-)
Message: Posted by: Dr. O (Dec 4, 2018 06:33AM)
Received mine today. Very pleased with the service and product. Lots of potential here.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 4, 2018 07:36AM)
[quote]On Dec 4, 2018, NeilS wrote:
It never occurred to me about the possibility of magnets coming into play. My pendulum is crystal so hopefully the idea will not occur to spectators - as if there was anything underhand going on anyway ;-) [/quote]


It would be an attractive proposition. (are there magnets?)
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 4, 2018 07:57AM)
It would be an attractive proposition. (are there magnets?) [/quote]

There are not threads, magnets or any funny business with the box and coin.
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Dec 4, 2018 08:11AM)
This is the simplest of props with a huge reward. The price is very fair, possibilities are up to your imagination. It just goes to show you don't have to spend hundreds of dollars to have the trick of the year.

Thanks again Jake

Steve
Message: Posted by: mtstic44 (Dec 4, 2018 08:48AM)
Mine will be in Thursday I can't wait to see this thing that everybody is Raven about. I just hope they got my address corrected before they shipped it out.

Allen
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 4, 2018 09:00AM)
[quote]On Dec 4, 2018, mtstic44 wrote:
Mine will be in Thursday I can't wait to see this thing that everybody is Raven about. I just hope they got my address corrected before they shipped it out.

Allen [/quote]

Alan,
thank you for your order, I double checked and the address was changed per your request. Gotcha covered!

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 4, 2018 09:24AM)
Just received news that my casket has been accepted at customs and that expected delivery is now 3-7 days. Can't wait.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 4, 2018 12:44PM)
[quote]On Dec 4, 2018, Steven Conner wrote:
This is the simplest of props with a huge reward. The price is very fair, possibilities are up to your imagination. It just goes to show you don't have to spend hundreds of dollars to have the trick of the year.

Thanks again Jake

Steve [/quote]

Yes it is the sheer simplicity, elegance and with the secret so well hidden that makes the casket just so good.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 4, 2018 03:44PM)
[quote]On Dec 4, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
It would be an attractive proposition. (are there magnets?) [/quote]

There are not threads, magnets or any funny business with the box and coin. [/quote]

Didn't think so.
Message: Posted by: mtstic44 (Dec 4, 2018 07:12PM)
Thanks Mad Jake, That is what brings people back.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Dec 5, 2018 12:02AM)
I want to thank Neil for the great idea of using a pendulum to reveal the status of the coin. I don't own anything remotely appropriate to use as a pendulum so I ordered this inexpensive pendulum from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DVG4MKB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I even found some nice velvet drawstring bags on Amazon in which to store the pendulum:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HKTFMMJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yeah, I know, I don't really need 48 of them but I do have several other effects that could be stored in a nice velvet drawstring bag so, why not? :)

Mark
Message: Posted by: Alex DLF (Dec 5, 2018 12:15PM)
Received it today in France, wow, the Shipping was fast :o

Dead easy and devious method, love it !

Can someone tell me the visual method through PM please ? Thanks again.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Dec 5, 2018 01:39PM)
I need some help with the visual method too. I'm hoping you don't need eagle eyes to use that.
PM please, thanks in advance!
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 5, 2018 02:22PM)
I am a bit puzzled by this reference to 'visual method.'

And Videoman, rest assured, you do not need eagle eyes to use the effect. It is beautifully simple to perform - which is why I like it.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 5, 2018 04:21PM)
If you wanted to you could perform it blindfolded, but this is not an approach or way I would choose or recommend.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Mindbender (Dec 5, 2018 04:59PM)
Is this basically Die-Cipher II for coins?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 5, 2018 05:03PM)
It's more than Die-Cipher, IMO

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Mindbender (Dec 5, 2018 05:53PM)
Thanks!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 5, 2018 07:11PM)
[quote]On Dec 5, 2018, Mr. Mindbender wrote:
Is this basically Die-Cipher II for coins? [/quote]

Different method.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Dec 5, 2018 10:24PM)
I was initially curious about the references to "visual method" but after giving it a little thought I figured it out. I plan to use Neil's suggestion for a pendulum and I'll do the effect twice. Once using normal method and once using the visual method. That way I'm not touching the casket at all the second time.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 6, 2018 07:53AM)
I ran some more boxes all night, so there are backup of the last sell.

As of today, I have to let Overseas customers know that after the 9th of this month we can not guarantee delievery before Christmas, but we are still shipping 24/7.
For US Customers, the Christmas delivery deadline will be December 17th

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: jaizon (Dec 6, 2018 10:59AM)
I cannot order this item on the website (or even find it). Are they out of production? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 6, 2018 11:31AM)
[quote]On Dec 6, 2018, jaizon wrote:
I cannot order this item on the website (or even find it). Are they out of production? Thanks. [/quote]

I just had another member tell me the link is not working, but when I click it, it works fine. If you use www.airshipmagic.com
you can get into the store that way and it's listed in the New Arrivals on the home page. In the meantime I'm checking on
this again. I apologize for the trouble.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Dave the Knave (Dec 6, 2018 11:43AM)
The New Arrivals page displays "There are no products available in this category" currently for me.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 6, 2018 11:46AM)
Ask him to send you a paypal invoice.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 6, 2018 11:47AM)
Can someone try this link?

https://airshipmagic.com/store/home/65-classic-brass-coin-prediction-casket.html
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Dec 6, 2018 11:51AM)
Not working..
Message: Posted by: Dave the Knave (Dec 6, 2018 11:53AM)
Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to airshipmagic.com. Peer reports it experienced an internal error. Error code: SSL_ERROR_INTERNAL_ERROR_ALERT

The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 6, 2018 12:12PM)
Thank you. I'm taking the store offline. Network Sollutions is having a problem with web certs and is working on it now.
I'll post again when it is repaired. In the mean time if anyone would like one, I can send a Paypal invoice from our business account to you.

Kindest Regards and thanks,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: mtstic44 (Dec 6, 2018 04:23PM)
I tried the site and it is working. I just got my Brass Coin Casket in about 30 min.ago. beautiful piece of work. I want to thank you for fixing my address it came to the right address. I will be buying from you again Mad Jake.

Thanks
Allen
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 6, 2018 04:50PM)
Hoping I will get mine next week. Good to see all the excellent reviews while I wait.
Message: Posted by: mtstic44 (Dec 6, 2018 04:55PM)
I know one thing Mad Jake got some speedy service.

Allen
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 6, 2018 07:35PM)
No complaints with service....just with Canada customs and post. I live in a great place but it probably ranks dead last, among civilized countries, in those particular services.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 6, 2018 07:37PM)
Glad it arrived safely Allen.

The site is still down, we are now just waiting for the DNS servers to update. No idea what happened.

In the interim, I turned some more boxes today as we were getting low. I like making these little boxes.

If anyone doesn't want to wait for the store to come back up, we can send you an invoice via Paypal.
Message: Posted by: Mb217 (Dec 6, 2018 08:14PM)
Got mine today! :D

I ordered this on the convincing words of some wonderful folks in this string. It is a wonderful little box, very well turned and just the feel of a real gem to the touch. Nice weight to it too, and so expertly crafted. It works beautifully as advertised. A wonderful little trick that is simple to present, or can be wrapped in something more like the "Which Hand" effect I've been happily made aware of here. To hear of this possible way of presenting it is like getting a nice bonus with it, sorta like pouring chocolate syrup in a nice cold glass of milk...or something like that. :D

And some of the other ideas here sound interesting as well if you want to dress it up a bit. But it can also stand by itself well enough. And looking forward to the extra manuscript of routines mentioned...more added value to something that's already a tremendous bargain to begin with. That's what I'm talking about! :D

This is a little Christmas present to myself. :) Love the idea, the possibilities and the price for such a nice piece. This is the sort of good value, especially as to such well-crafted work like this, that makes you smile. :) Good honest work, quality and value from a good guy, whose right here to stand by his product...I like that!

And with that, thank you Jake...Job well done. Keep up the great work!

"Merry Christmas to me, and to all." :)
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 6, 2018 08:31PM)
I'm just so please everyone is liking this old effect. I can't take all the credit, I'm just the controller, the lathe does the hard work.
I just make the props, it's everyone that buys them that make them Special, thank you again.

The Store is Now Back Online and functioning properly. Whew, what a day.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 7, 2018 06:23AM)
Received mine last night. WOW! I can see a future of fun with this small little item. Works perfectly. Real magic.
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Dec 7, 2018 06:58AM)
A big thanks to Neil again for the pendulum idea. I too have a crystal and just lay everything out for examination. Goes over great.
Message: Posted by: ATXTimeLord (Dec 7, 2018 07:46AM)
Jake,

I think the website is back down again... I'm not just not getting the store, the website goes to a parked domain site. I've tried from my computer, iPad and phone...

mG
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 7, 2018 08:01AM)
[quote]On Dec 7, 2018, ATXTimeLord wrote:
Jake,

I think the website is back down again... I'm not just not getting the store, the website goes to a parked domain site. I've tried from my computer, iPad and phone...

mG [/quote]

Mike,
sent you a reply PM. I just checked the store and completed 2 orders. She's running smoothly. Might have been a glitch.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 7, 2018 08:05AM)
Thank you Steven and Para47 for your recent kind words and am really pleased my ideas have been of use.

But what is especially pleasing is that having sung the praises of the Brass Coin Casket, so many like it as much as I do. Having said it was good, it would have been embarrassing if I was in the minority and I had (inadvertently) misled.

Neil
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 7, 2018 09:02AM)
Each morning we hold a meeting before starting the day in the shop. Todays topics included of course, the Coin Casket. My brother had an idea and we all agreed to implement it.

If anyone is purchasing one as a gift for someone, we will gift wrap for free for you. All you have to do is leave a note when you check out that you would like it gift wrapped.
Wrapping will be holiday neutral :) , meaning no themed gift wrap, just a nice color quality paper.

Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all.

Jake Jr. & Crew
Message: Posted by: jaizon (Dec 7, 2018 09:14AM)
Hi, Jake. I still can't get on the website. Can you please post a direct link to the product. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 7, 2018 09:34AM)
[quote]On Dec 7, 2018, jaizon wrote:
Hi, Jake. I still can't get on the website. Can you please post a direct link to the product. Thanks. [/quote]


Clear your browser cache (history)
reboot your computer/tablet etc.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 7, 2018 09:36AM)
[quote]On Dec 7, 2018, jaizon wrote:
Hi, Jake. I still can't get on the website. Can you please post a direct link to the product. Thanks. [/quote]

https://airshipmagic.com/store/home/65-classic-brass-coin-prediction-casket.html

The site is up and running smoothly, It might be your browser cache.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Dec 7, 2018 09:52AM)
I was having trouble with the site last night too. My browser would load one page (the casket page) but trying to go anywhere else within the site wasn't working so well. The site is working fine this morning.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 7, 2018 12:12PM)
For those who have purchased a Coin Casket. My brother was trying other coins in the box. Soft Walkers and Soft Franklins will also work with the box.
Message: Posted by: jaizon (Dec 7, 2018 01:46PM)
Thanks for the tip, John C.

Ordered it and something else, too. :)
Message: Posted by: mtstic44 (Dec 7, 2018 06:25PM)
It was a bonus that the date on the coin was the year of my birth. Maybe it means something lol.

Allen
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 7, 2018 06:52PM)
It's a psychic coin.... sounds like a good omen though
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 7, 2018 08:45PM)
My routine....

Present the coin casket. You know what this is? It's called a coin casket.

Years ago with the advent of the funeral parlor moriticians used to hire well.... Subpar employees. These new employees often they had the bad habit of placing the corpse in the casket upside down. Well this was embarrassing for the funeral director during the wake.

So the funeral director developed a special skill. He learned to see inside the casket from a great distance and determine whether or not the corpse was the proper orientation.

To develop this skill they used this. They called it a coin casket.

Perform the effect a few times.

In addition to the above patter you can make a prediction card on a biz card. Write the numbers 1 thru 5. On 1 3,4 place the word success.

Now simply perform the coin casket 5 times. Miss in time 2 and 5

Adds another level of mystery.

There you go. Thank me later
Message: Posted by: John7 (Dec 7, 2018 08:55PM)
Nah I would stare at it and examine it a few times then, just when they're convinced I'm seeing something, I'd put it in the bag and still get it right.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 8, 2018 09:44AM)
I continue to use this with Verbalist and Tequila Hustler.
It makes a very strong effect and adds a second phase to the routine.
And the spectators are just amazed at it.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 8, 2018 12:28PM)
Yes this seems better. A 3 phase effect would be better still and can be achieved if you have or can get a duplicate coin. I think Neil mentioned something like this earlier in the thread.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 8, 2018 12:51PM)
I did. A three stage routine. First forcing the coin from several different ones, then showing your predicted coin residing in the casket. Then go on to the head and tails effect - and have great fun with this - before concluding with a which hand routine.
Message: Posted by: John7 (Dec 8, 2018 12:58PM)
I was thinking do which hand first to provide an offbeat to act as cover while you ascertain whether it's heads or tails. Also gives you an opportunity to pick it up out of their hand. Also makes more logical sense - you start big by determining the hand then get even more precise by determining which side up it is.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 8, 2018 01:09PM)
Mine finally arrived in Canada! As echoed by everyone, works great and definitely my best value buy this year.

John
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 8, 2018 01:12PM)
[quote]On Dec 8, 2018, J M Talbot wrote:
Mine finally arrived in Canada! As echoed by everyone, works great and definitely my best value buy this year.

John [/quote]

great John. We are already on to the next great thing!
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 8, 2018 02:05PM)
Great news JM. And as far as the 3 stage, I plan on doing something akin to Neil's routine but will do the which hand first in mine. I would not do a switch hand as a stand alone in a show but combined with the casket and the other 2 stages it allows, it can work.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 8, 2018 09:42PM)
So tonight I performed one on one with my priest from Angola. He was totally amazed. He thought I was the devil. Then I showed it to a 21 yr old kid. He didn't put the half dollar in the Casket. Of course I guessed heads.i said well I should have shown a grown up. Oh well. Watch your specs.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 9, 2018 05:03AM)
[quote]On Dec 8, 2018, John C wrote:
So tonight I performed one on one with my priest from Angola. He was totally amazed. He thought I was the devil. Then I showed it to a 21 yr old kid. He didn't put the half dollar in the Casket. Of course I guessed heads.i said well I should have shown a grown up. Oh well. Watch your specs. [/quote]

I don't understand how that happened? There's a failsafe built in that helps avoid 21 yr. olds like that.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 9, 2018 08:32AM)
[quote]On Dec 9, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
[quote]On Dec 8, 2018, John C wrote:
So tonight I performed one on one with my priest from Angola. He was totally amazed. He thought I was the devil. Then I showed it to a 21 yr old kid. He didn't put the half dollar in the Casket. Of course I guessed heads.i said well I should have shown a grown up. Oh well. Watch your specs. [/quote]

I don't understand how that happened? There's a failsafe built in that helps avoid 21 yr. olds like that.

Jake Jr. [/quote]

I think you're correct. I forgot about that failsafe. I'll remember it next time.

I pulled out the cards and kicked his ### with those so no worries. 😂
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 9, 2018 09:45AM)
All good things must come to an end. I finished up one last run of Coin Caskets. I think I've made enough to satisfy the serious workers and collectors alike. One thing my brother and I agreed on
is that we did not want to flood the market with our magic we create, another effect ending this year is the Swords Trough Half which was also a very good seller.

Without you all, the success of this effect would not have been possible and once again ALL of us here say Thank you and Happy Holidays to you.

Holiday Regards from all of us,
Jake Jr. & Crew
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 9, 2018 10:50AM)
The beauty of this effect is that if you were performing in a walk around environment you could effectively use this with maybe a few other half dollar effects and you would not require many things to carry.

I use:

Coin Casket - 5 minutes
Eclipse (christopher taylor) 5 minutes
A which hand - I use Scan3D
Deck of cards


Any other half dollar effects you can name?

J
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Dec 9, 2018 11:35AM)
[quote]On Dec 9, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
All good things must come to an end. I finished up one last run of Coin Caskets. I think I've made enough to satisfy the serious workers and collectors alike. One thing my brother and I agreed on
is that we did not want to flood the market with our magic we create, another effect ending this year is the Swords Trough Half which was also a very good seller.

Without you all, the success of this effect would not have been possible and once again ALL of us here say Thank you and Happy Holidays to you.

Holiday Regards from all of us,
Jake Jr. & Crew [/quote]


Glad my order is in , looking forward to ití.

Regards carl
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Dec 9, 2018 11:36AM)
[quote]On Dec 8, 2018, NeilS wrote:
I did. A three stage routine. First forcing the coin from several different ones, then showing your predicted coin residing in the casket. Then go on to the head and tails effect - and have great fun with this - before concluding with a which hand routine. [/quote]


You could always use digital force bag if you didnít want to use a magicians choice I suppose , I bought this on your reviewNeil btw


Carl
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 9, 2018 01:08PM)
Am glad that I ordered mine previously even though I knew there would be delay in receiving it. It would have been depressing to have missed out.
Message: Posted by: Lseeyou (Dec 9, 2018 05:33PM)
Will this work with Euro currency coins?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 9, 2018 05:43PM)
[quote]On Dec 9, 2018, Lseeyou wrote:
Will this work with Euro currency coins? [/quote]

This may, but without the actual currency I don't know 100%. I just ordered a complete selection of 1/2 dollar size World coins from our coin dealer.
This will give me a better idea of building future coin effects so they can be used in the US , UK and other countries abroad.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 10, 2018 08:47AM)
Have been spending some time with this and experimenting with different handlings and coins. Have discovered something kind of neat that I will be using in my routine. Have discovered that the primary tell on Kennedy halves pre 1970 is opposite to the primary tell on Kennedy halves after 1970. For clarity how you tell if the coin is heads or tells is opposite on the coins pre 70 and post 70. This is when silver was stopped and a small design change. This opens up some neat angles. Show two halves, have two spectators freely select one (one half is pre 70 and one is post 70). While your back is turned or while out of the room have one spectator place their half in the box and then in the bag. You can then determine which spectators coin is in the casket!

Could also patter about the fact that silver was stopped in the production of half's in 1970... you have have the ability to sense if a coin has silver in it without seeing it or touching it...

Possibly use a sharpie and write no on one and yes on the other for another approach...

You do need to know the orientation of the coin when they place it in the box. I will use something like "Look Kennedy in the eye before placing the lid on" This ensures it is heads up without saying please put the coin heads up :)

Anyway, adds another phase to this neat prop.

Cheers!

John
Message: Posted by: rockbrunnen (Dec 10, 2018 09:45AM)
Wow! What a surprise! Thanks for sharing, John.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 10, 2018 09:48AM)
Sounds good John. I imagine there will be a plethora of routines to choose from before all is said and done. I will soon be dickering with it myself as tracking shows that is is now in Ottawa and probably out for delivery. I will likely receive it today, tomorrow at the latest.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 10, 2018 01:39PM)
Received and it is indeed what was expected and more. It is a beautiful piece of workmanship.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 10, 2018 01:52PM)
Good news aligator!
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 10, 2018 02:31PM)
[quote]On Dec 10, 2018, aligator wrote:
Received and it is indeed what was expected and more. It is a beautiful piece of workmanship. [/quote]

That is really good to hear. Now you can look at the various ways to use - and there are just so many. Yesterday I used it purely as a way to get in tune with a spectator's thinking before doing something more ambitious.

Have fun, as I am sure you will.

Neil
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 10, 2018 02:48PM)
Yes, the head is already spinning with the possibilities but at this time, I believe I will use the 3 stage as discussed. Good item to have no matter which way one decides to use it.
Message: Posted by: John7 (Dec 10, 2018 03:17PM)
It's a nice feeling - not having buyers remorse - isn't it?
Message: Posted by: BrainMagos (Dec 10, 2018 04:06PM)
Does this work only with half dollar? Can a similar sized coin work as well?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 10, 2018 04:10PM)
[quote]On Dec 10, 2018, BrainMagos wrote:
Does this work only with half dollar? Can a similar sized coin work as well? [/quote]

This was created to work with half dollars. Some other coins do work, but I'm not able to cover all that will.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 10, 2018 04:50PM)
I performed this effect for my niece yesterday., of course no matter what she chose, I revealed. On the last presentation to her, I took the coin box back and had to tell her, she short changed me.
I revealed it was tails, but it was a quarter. Her jaw dropped.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Stunninger (Dec 10, 2018 06:40PM)
This is a delightful effect produced through a wonderful work of craftsmanship. How nice to buy something so well made that will last a lifetime.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 10, 2018 07:34PM)
[quote]On Dec 10, 2018, Stunninger wrote:
This is a delightful effect produced through a wonderful work of craftsmanship. How nice to buy something so well made that will last a lifetime. [/quote]

Exactly my thoughts also.
:smiles:
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 10, 2018 07:53PM)
Ditto.
Message: Posted by: RedDevil (Dec 10, 2018 09:04PM)
Really enjoying this. Canít stop playing with ideas for it. One of my favorite magic purchases in a long time. Well done.
Message: Posted by: ATXTimeLord (Dec 11, 2018 07:38AM)
[quote]On Dec 7, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
For those who have purchased a Coin Casket. My brother was trying other coins in the box. Soft Walkers and Soft Franklins will also work with the box. [/quote]

I'm glad to see this answer.. For the record, Barbers do not .. :-) . Guess I'll have to carry my walkers as well...

mG
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 11, 2018 09:57AM)
Have continued to play with the idea I shared above of being able to detect the difference between pre 70's halves and post 70's halves. Added a Kreis Magnet half to the mix and can now tell which of three coins is in the casket without using a magnet detection device. There is another subtlety with the Kreis half that you can use. Tested the idea last night using the three halves with colored stickers.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/xIqHARr.jpg[/img]

Using this set-up with a device such as Sixth Sense 3 opens up multiple routines and methods that cancel each other. For the record both Sixth Sense 2 and 3 will detect the magnetic half through the brass casket with no issue. I assume SCAN 3D will also work but sold mine so cannot confirm.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 11, 2018 10:18AM)
Very inventive John !
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 11, 2018 12:26PM)
I've had some people telling me the link isn't working to the product/site again. I did a force update to update the link here is the new generated link.

https://airshipmagic.com/store/home/65-classic-brass-coin-prediction-casket.html
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Dec 11, 2018 01:28PM)
I bought this too and think itís brilliant. Could someone kindly pm me and let me know a certain method of detecting 100% every time when in the the silk bag without big obvious arm movements. I am finding although it obviously works a charm I havenít found a movement that gets the orientation spot on everything single time as it seems to depend on how the coin lays in the casket.
Thanks for any help Olly
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 11, 2018 01:32PM)
The orientation of the coin only matters if it is heads or tails. There shouldn't be any issues, each is tested before it leaves us.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 11, 2018 01:32PM)
Why is it necessary to detect while in silk bag?
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 11, 2018 01:56PM)
A tongue in cheek yet perplexing method is to open the casket upside down and guess the face up coin?
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 11, 2018 01:56PM)
[quote]On Dec 11, 2018, aligator wrote:
Why is it necessary to detect while in silk bag? [/quote]

Just different.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Dec 11, 2018 02:07PM)
[quote]On Dec 8, 2018, John C wrote:
So tonight I performed one on one with my priest from Angola. He was totally amazed. He thought I was the devil. Then I showed it to a 21 yr old kid. He didn't put the half dollar in the Casket. Of course I guessed heads.i said well I should have shown a grown up. Oh well. Watch your specs. [/quote]

I had EXACTLY the same thing happen with a young man. Super annoying!
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 11, 2018 02:12PM)
[quote]On Dec 11, 2018, rosariorose9 wrote:
[quote]On Dec 8, 2018, John C wrote:
So tonight I performed one on one with my priest from Angola. He was totally amazed. He thought I was the devil. Then I showed it to a 21 yr old kid. He didn't put the half dollar in the Casket. Of course I guessed heads.i said well I should have shown a grown up. Oh well. Watch your specs. [/quote]

I had EXACTLY the same thing happen with a young man. Super annoying! [/quote]

There is a way to avoid this, please PM me.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 11, 2018 02:52PM)
To add to a previous poster's testing it does work with scan 3d in the casket both sides.

I'm using a kries.

But the tell is the same on both sides under normal conditions
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 11, 2018 03:50PM)
Actually there is a way to tell one side from the other with the Kries half without the detector... play with it a little more :)
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 11, 2018 04:24PM)
Ok, I play.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 11, 2018 04:26PM)
Just back from a Christmas party and this little item produced incredible reactions. After presenting it for one person, someone else wanted to try and so it went on. So simple, so delightful and so much fun.
Message: Posted by: mtstic44 (Dec 11, 2018 05:22PM)
Hey Neils, How did you perform it. I only know the basic handling.

Allen
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 11, 2018 05:25PM)
[quote]On Dec 11, 2018, mtstic44 wrote:
Hey Neils, How did you perform it. I only know the basic handling.

Allen [/quote]

Look thru the thread. :)
Message: Posted by: RedDevil (Dec 11, 2018 10:07PM)
I have discovered a few detection properties and display methods to make it where you donít have to ever touch the casket (or see it). I have combined this with a new version of my ďRe-BohtĒ (inspired by Bryn Reynolds, but now much different than his and even my first published version) which hand technique to wonderful effect with this wonderful piece of kit. I can tell them what hand it is in and what side of the coin is up without ever seeing the casket and while they hold it concealed. Just love it.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 12, 2018 08:49AM)
[quote]On Dec 11, 2018, John C wrote:
Ok, I play. [/quote]

Hey, John... send me a PM if you want any details... I actually like the tell with the magnet coin (without using a magnet detector) better than a regular half the more I play with it.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 12, 2018 11:52AM)
[quote]On Dec 12, 2018, J M Talbot wrote:
[quote]On Dec 11, 2018, John C wrote:
Ok, I play. [/quote]

Hey, John... send me a PM if you want any details... I actually like the tell with the magnet coin (without using a magnet detector) better than a regular half the more I play with it. [/quote]

NO NO NO! NO magnetic coins! Do you have any idea how hard I worked on this so you didn't have to use one? LOL.
Great ideas all!
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 12, 2018 12:28PM)
Well for a scan 3d which hand in the Casket you need a special coin.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 12, 2018 12:36PM)
Was just kidding John. I love what everyone is doing with this. Keep up the great work, magnetic coins or not.
Message: Posted by: Jack Straw (Dec 12, 2018 02:04PM)
For what it's worth, none of my other Kennedy Halfs work with this.

The 1968 40% silver that came with it is the only thing that I can use.

My two Magnetics, my 1964 90% Silvers, or any of my clad coinage from the 2000's all don't work.

None of my Walking Liberties work either.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 12, 2018 02:15PM)
I ship a lot with 1964's at an additional cost all the time. I just spoke with Mike Gallo who has one with a 1964 and it never misses. The same with 2000 coins, but in reverse as John mentioned.
As for Silver Walkers, they need to be soft and you will have to match one to the box, but they do work.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 12, 2018 02:42PM)
[quote]On Dec 12, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
Was just kidding John. I love what everyone is doing with this. Keep up the great work, magnetic coins or not. [/quote]

Gotcha sucka!! We can't just be satisfied with something that does absolutely what it says it does.

WE NEED MORE! HAHAHA HAHA!
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 13, 2018 12:54AM)
[/quote]
Gotcha sucka!! We can't just be satisfied with something that does absolutely what it says it does.
WE NEED MORE! HAHAHA HAHA! [/quote]

We're not making anymore Coin Caskets, but my bother and I are working on a special set of coins for the box that will enable the Casket to
do a lot more for the performer.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 13, 2018 01:43AM)
[quote]On Dec 13, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
[/quote]
Gotcha sucka!! We can't just be satisfied with something that does absolutely what it says it does.
WE NEED MORE! HAHAHA HAHA! [/quote]

We're not making anymore Coin Caskets, but my bother and I are working on a special set of coins for the box that will enable the Casket to
do a lot more for the performer. [/quote]

Well then, that's enough. Can't wait.
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Dec 13, 2018 09:31AM)
Jake: Sorry to disrupt your plans to cease casket productions, but the new coins you produce may create a demand for more caskets.

George
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 13, 2018 09:33AM)
Yes, that is true. Plans can always change though.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 13, 2018 02:20PM)
[quote]On Dec 13, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
[/quote]
Gotcha sucka!! We can't just be satisfied with something that does absolutely what it says it does.
WE NEED MORE! HAHAHA HAHA! [/quote]

We're not making anymore Coin Caskets, but my bother and I are working on a special set of coins for the box that will enable the Casket to
do a lot more for the performer. [/quote]

Sure make fun of me for using a magnetic coin... kidding... the special coins sound interesting.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 14, 2018 06:28PM)
Some one messaged me about making Sucker boxes to match the Casket, one the Half won't fit and the other the lid won't come off.
Thoughts anyone?
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Dec 14, 2018 06:42PM)
[quote]On Dec 14, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
Some one messaged me about making Sucker boxes to match the Casket, one the Half won't fit and the other the lid won't come off.
Thoughts anyone? [/quote]

It's really not needed since everything can be examined anyway imho. Keep it simple.

Best

Steve
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 14, 2018 06:59PM)
That's what I like, honest feedback. Thank you for sharing Steven.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Dec 14, 2018 09:08PM)
I like the box that wonít fit a half. Iíd get one of those. Might make for a good segue into a which hand routine.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 14, 2018 09:38PM)
I'm satisfied with what I have.
It does one thing very very well.
Message: Posted by: Seth speaks (Dec 14, 2018 11:14PM)
I might have missed this earlier, but is this based on a classic effect, or is it original? It is a beautiful piece of work!

Seth
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 15, 2018 06:01AM)
Thank you everyone.

Seth, this is based on a really old classic. When I found it in our fathers coin magic collection I thought it was neat. I had some brass stock left over and after days of
configuring the lathe to cut it, I made about 14 of them. I never expected them to sell like this.

My brother Frederick researched it, way past Ken Brooke's Nemo Six, it dates back to the mid 1930's, but he couldn't find the original creator, but it did come from Europe.
I always credit something to the creator, but in this case my brother couldn't find anyone.

I did PM back and forth with a member here who said he had an Abbott's version that was quarter size years and years ago. Dad also has some Aluminum versions that
were poorly made and were hit or miss no matter what year coin you used.

Thank you for the kind words Seth, but the lathe really does all the work :) I enjoy making things and as I have said, the positive responses have just been so kind I'm just
thankful that customers have something they can use and not put in a drawer and forgot about.

Holiday wishes to all,
Jake Jr., Frederick & Crew
Message: Posted by: RedDevil (Dec 15, 2018 03:26PM)
Shared this story with Jake earlier today, but I thought you guys would get a kick out of something that happened to me today with the coin casket:

So I went to my local pawn shop this afternoon to see if by chance they had some silver walking halves or older kennedys. He dug up two from an old suitcase in the back and let me take them out of the cardboard protectors to test them in my casket. I first tried a 1945s Walker and it didn't work and then he had a 40% silver '65 Kennedy that worked great. I still wanted the walker so I offered him $6 for it, and he wanted $15. At this point, he looks at the casket and asks me what I want them for. I said I am an amateur magician, and I was looking for coins to put in my "coin protector" that fit.

So he was standing next to his partner across the counter and he said, "Show us something."

So I said sure. I said I got the brass coin protector from my grandpa who was a flea market guy (true story). He sold knives, tools, and coins his whole life, and I would play with his old stuff and play games with him to pass the time. One of those games was to use one of his coin protectors and we would guess heads or tails. So I asked him to choose a side while I turned my back and put the coin protector on the counter (I hardly ever touch the casket when I perform with it; I have learned I don't need to hold it almost ever for what I use it for).

So I hold my hand over it for a second and think, and I say, "Definitely heads."

Of course, I am correct. I then say, here let's try another game. And this is the cool part...

I tell him that my Grandpa had two sayings that he told me a thousand times, "Always choose TAILS and Always take a left." He was just that kind of guy. So I put the coin on tails and closed the casket on it. I then told him to put it behind his back and choose a fist to hide it in and put both fists out front of him, which he does.

So I look at his partner and ask him if he can tell which hand it is in. He says "No" and then puts his finger on the spectator's right hand and says, "I think it is in this hand."

So I say, "How close are you two as friends. Pretty tight?"

They shrug.

I say, "Well, I was wondering because your friend is way off. It is definitely in your left hand!"

He opens his hand and I am correct. (I never touched or saw the casket before this time)

He then shakes his head and says, "Okay, okay. Tell you what. You can have the stinking coin (pointing to the kennedy 65)."

I say, "Seriously?"

"Yes, s&8t, tell you what, you can have them both. You blew my mind. Get out of here and Merry Christmas."

So I walked out of the store after thanking him profusely with two free silver coins and grinning like my 8 year old self that got his first magic set.

Great piece of kit. I ordered a second one as a back-up, and Mad Jake is selling me a Walker that works well with the casket. Great customer service.

I hate to share this because it is so good, but the Coin Casket isn't just a piece of kit to be used "with" a which-hand apparatus...Instead, I have discovered that the Coin Casket "is" a which-hand apparatus. I am killing people with it lately with a 2-3 phase which-hand routine, and it costs 29 freaking dollars. I won't discuss upstairs, but I have developed:

2 Which Hand Methods using the casket (not logic-based), one of them is, I think, a vast improvement on my Re-Boht, which is now not even related to Boht directly. I never touch the spectator in any way.
A new use of the Tequila Hustler that I don't think anyone has ever published or thought of (I don't think I want to share this one right now)
A visible display method using another common object that guarantees detection without the performer ever touching the casket.

It's been a long time since a simple prop has got me thinking so much. I told Jake today that I really wished he wouldn't make any more of these or at least triple the price. I don't want to see this in the hands of You-Tube kids.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 15, 2018 04:44PM)
Great story. Are you willing to share downstairs or by pm the visible display method? I now use a sight method myself but it does involve picking up the casket and placing it in the bag.
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Dec 15, 2018 04:55PM)
[quote]On Dec 15, 2018, aligator wrote:
Great story. Are you willing to share downstairs or by pm the visible display method? I now use a sight method myself but it does involve picking up the casket and placing it in the bag. [/quote]

Hey alligator, if you pick up the casket, no need for sight.

Best
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 15, 2018 04:59PM)
We've decided to do a run of 1000 more Caskets and the price is now 99.95 plus 19.95 shipping. There RedDevil, we'll never sell another again LOL
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 15, 2018 05:00PM)
I find the sight easier for some peculiar reason although the original method is fine as well. I would like to be able to do the sight without picking it up however if my esyesight is sufficient.
Message: Posted by: Julie (Dec 15, 2018 05:56PM)
[quote]On Dec 15, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
...I did PM back and forth with a member here who said he had an Abbott's version that was quarter size years and years ago...

The Abbott's version was made by Alexander Great (the "A" in the latter day A&B Magic).

Julie
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 15, 2018 06:07PM)
[quote]On Dec 15, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
We've decided to do a run of 1000 more Caskets and the price is now 99.95 plus 19.95 shipping. There RedDevil, we'll never sell another again LOL [/quote]

LOL....for real....good post
Message: Posted by: RedDevil (Dec 15, 2018 10:56PM)
[quote]On Dec 15, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
We've decided to do a run of 1000 more Caskets and the price is now 99.95 plus 19.95 shipping. There RedDevil, we'll never sell another again LOL [/quote]

Whew! ;)
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Dec 16, 2018 09:18AM)
I will take another 4 then Jake;)
I can see where the Mad bit comes in now they are way too cheap lol, Merry Christmas Olly
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 16, 2018 08:55PM)
Our last shipping day is going to be December 24th. We'll be closed Christmas Day and re-open on December 26th.
We want to. wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday season.

Thank you to everyone who made the end of the year so much fun.

Warm Holiday Wishes,
Mad Jake Jr, Frederick, Samara, Marcella, Billy, Randi, Mikael, Dave, Josh, John, Epiphany and Jessie
Message: Posted by: mindhunter (Dec 17, 2018 01:36PM)
[quote]On Dec 11, 2018, RedDevil wrote:
I have combined this with a new version of my ďRe-BohtĒ (inspired by Bryn Reynolds, [/quote]

The BOHT technique can be found in my eBook "The Safwan Papers."

I love hearing how people not only have had success using my routines as written, But also how they work certain principles into other effects!

Bryn
Message: Posted by: dman11 (Dec 17, 2018 03:14PM)
Got my coin casket today and just love it! So much so that I ordered a backup in case I lose this sucker.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 18, 2018 09:56PM)
[quote]On Dec 15, 2018, RedDevil wrote:
Shared this story with Jake earlier today, but I thought you guys would get a kick out of something that happened to me today with the coin casket:

So I went to my local pawn shop this afternoon to see if by chance they had some silver walking halves or older kennedys. He dug up two from an old suitcase in the back and let me take them out of the cardboard protectors to test them in my casket. I first tried a 1945s Walker and it didn't work and then he had a 40% silver '65 Kennedy that worked great. I still wanted the walker so I offered him $6 for it, and he wanted $15. At this point, he looks at the casket and asks me what I want them for. I said I am an amateur magician, and I was looking for coins to put in my "coin protector" that fit.

So he was standing next to his partner across the counter and he said, "Show us something."

So I said sure. I said I got the brass coin protector from my grandpa who was a flea market guy (true story). He sold knives, tools, and coins his whole life, and I would play with his old stuff and play games with him to pass the time. One of those games was to use one of his coin protectors and we would guess heads or tails. So I asked him to choose a side while I turned my back and put the coin protector on the counter (I hardly ever touch the casket when I perform with it; I have learned I don't need to hold it almost ever for what I use it for).

So I hold my hand over it for a second and think, and I say, "Definitely heads."

Of course, I am correct. I then say, here let's try another game. And this is the cool part...

I tell him that my Grandpa had two sayings that he told me a thousand times, "Always choose TAILS and Always take a left." He was just that kind of guy. So I put the coin on tails and closed the casket on it. I then told him to put it behind his back and choose a fist to hide it in and put both fists out front of him, which he does.

So I look at his partner and ask him if he can tell which hand it is in. He says "No" and then puts his finger on the spectator's right hand and says, "I think it is in this hand."

So I say, "How close are you two as friends. Pretty tight?"

They shrug.

I say, "Well, I was wondering because your friend is way off. It is definitely in your left hand!"

He opens his hand and I am correct. (I never touched or saw the casket before this time)

He then shakes his head and says, "Okay, okay. Tell you what. You can have the stinking coin (pointing to the kennedy 65)."

I say, "Seriously?"

"Yes, s&8t, tell you what, you can have them both. You blew my mind. Get out of here and Merry Christmas."

So I walked out of the store after thanking him profusely with two free silver coins and grinning like my 8 year old self that got his first magic set.

Great piece of kit. I ordered a second one as a back-up, and Mad Jake is selling me a Walker that works well with the casket. Great customer service.

I hate to share this because it is so good, but the Coin Casket isn't just a piece of kit to be used "with" a which-hand apparatus...Instead, I have discovered that the Coin Casket "is" a which-hand apparatus. I am killing people with it lately with a 2-3 phase which-hand routine, and it costs 29 freaking dollars. I won't discuss upstairs, but I have developed:

2 Which Hand Methods using the casket (not logic-based), one of them is, I think, a vast improvement on my Re-Boht, which is now not even related to Boht directly. I never touch the spectator in any way.
A new use of the Tequila Hustler that I don't think anyone has ever published or thought of (I don't think I want to share this one right now)
A visible display method using another common object that guarantees detection without the performer ever touching the casket.

It's been a long time since a simple prop has got me thinking so much. I told Jake today that I really wished he wouldn't make any more of these or at least triple the price. I don't want to see this in the hands of You-Tube kids. [/quote]

RedDevil, my brother did your routine and it got GREAT re-actions. Thanks for sharing this.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 19, 2018 08:43AM)
Any possibility of seeing this in the forthcoming ebook?
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 19, 2018 09:13AM)
Some photos below of the set-up I am now using for the Coin Casket. Everything is carried in a small metal briefcase which I have lined with black velvet (these cases are easily sourced online).

Inside the case is a small box containing the Coin Casket. I made an insert to nicely house the Casket in this box. I perform first with just the casket, then comment that they might think I get a clue from touching the box. For the second phase they seal the casket in the small box... I still determine if it is heads or tails. I comment that while I cannot touch the box, possibly they think I am getting a clue through the clear lid. For the last phase I tell them to seal the casket in the small box and then seal in the briefcase (while my back is turned). Sometimes I also have them place the coin in the casket behind their back for this phase so that even they do not know if it is heads or tails (I explain this precludes me getting any clues from their body language).

This three phase routine that looks like increasingly impossible conditions is playing great and the boxes make a great way to carry and store the casket :)

[img]https://i.imgur.com/bwskIbq.png[/img]

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 19, 2018 09:26AM)
That looks excellent John. Will see if I can track down a mini metal briefcase. It will add another layer to the effect, as well as looking good.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 19, 2018 09:31AM)
Thanks Neil... just google mini metal briefcase and you will see a ton of options... :) Most are designed to hold business cards or credit cards. I stripped that out and lined it with some adhesive backed velvet. Have used these cases for a few projects.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 19, 2018 09:37AM)
I have a business card case that just might suffice. Good thinking John.
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 19, 2018 10:53AM)
Man you guys are serious. haha
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 19, 2018 11:05AM)
Well it is good thinking even if it is unlikely that I would personally do it that way. For now, I am sticking to my 3 phase routine. Perhaps there will be some good ideas in the ebook.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 19, 2018 11:21AM)
[quote]On Dec 19, 2018, John C wrote:
Man you guys are serious. haha [/quote]

This thread has been one of the unfortunately very few positive threads in the Latest and Greatest section lately. Increasingly seems becoming a sea of negativity and endless repeating of positions on products that they don't own. A little sad actually. Kind of proving an old adage "Those that cannot create critique"

I get little value in those conversations but enjoy contributing to positive conversations as seen here. End of soap box... :)

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 19, 2018 11:28AM)
[quote]On Dec 19, 2018, aligator wrote:
Well it is good thinking even if it is unlikely that I would personally do it that way. For now, I am sticking to my 3 phase routine. Perhaps there will be some good ideas in the ebook. [/quote]

Not sure if that is a compliment or slam :) I am not expecting anyone to take stuff and do it verbatim... but if we take pieces of ideas great. I have done that from things shared here. Please share your three phase routine aligator.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 19, 2018 11:52AM)
Basically, I do a switch hand initially with another coin. The Kennedy is in the casket in plain view. While doing the switch hand, another spec is arranging 4 coins (including another Kennedy). After the switch hand that coin is added to the four to make 5. Using a magician's choice, the Kennedy is forced and shown to be the same as the one in the casket.....there is psychological patter which is not included in this post. The spec then replaces coin in casket for the head/tails. I put it in velvet bag and then pocket and begin to walk away seeking participant for next demonstration. Then as an afterthough, turn back and say. BTW, thanks for the HEADS up......or if tails, I wanted to give you a heads up, but unfortunately you chose TAILS.

no slam intended John....just an observation. It's a good idea that doesn't suit my style.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 19, 2018 11:53AM)
I will be doing this effect at a Superbowl party, have come up with a patter hook around the coin tosses at the first three Superbowl games. I think it will play well... hopefully :)
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 19, 2018 12:00PM)
Thanks for sharing your routine. For the third phase do you confirm if we are right on your statement or leave them them wondering. Just curious. I have never felt comfortable using a magicians force sequence if working for multiple people that may see it a few times. I know it can be done though. Nice sequence.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 19, 2018 12:23PM)
Do not confirm on 3rd phase. Reaction of spec will tell if accurate. If I get a blank look, I might consider confirming. As far as magician's choice is concerned, I am fine with it but would only do it once for same audience. I can also omit the 2nd phase with a small group or one on one.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 19, 2018 04:10PM)
Thanks.... like the idea of not confirming on the third phase...
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Dec 19, 2018 05:03PM)
Mine arrived today itís such a wonderful piece , and so deceptive , I didnít know the method even though itís apparently as old as the hills , so I tried to guess and I had no idea.

Carl
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 19, 2018 05:52PM)
[quote]On Dec 19, 2018, J M Talbot wrote:
[quote]On Dec 19, 2018, John C wrote:
Man you guys are serious. haha [/quote]

This thread has been one of the unfortunately very few positive threads in the Latest and Greatest section lately. Increasingly seems becoming a sea of negativity and endless repeating of positions on products that they don't own. A little sad actually. Kind of proving an old adage "Those that cannot create critique"

I get little value in those conversations but enjoy contributing to positive conversations as seen here. End of soap box... :)

Cheers,

John [/quote]


I don't get it?
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Dec 19, 2018 06:11PM)
What donít you get John C ?You seemed to show sarcasm over the very kind and creative John Talbot yet again sharing his brilliant thinking on the Cafť to other members. Olly
Message: Posted by: Mb217 (Dec 19, 2018 07:11PM)
That's a nice routine you've put together there JM. :) I like the props and the progressive nature of it that makes it seem even more difficult to predict. I also like that little switch-up where not even the spec knows if the coin is heads or tails...Nice touch! :) I hope you put that on video one day soon. :)
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Dec 19, 2018 11:27PM)
Hi John T the clear plastic container I presume is also housed so that it canít slide side to side when the mini briefcase is shut. Great idea Olly
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 20, 2018 08:32AM)
[quote]On Dec 19, 2018, Oil&Water wrote:
What donít you get John C ?You seemed to show sarcasm over the very kind and creative John Talbot yet again sharing his brilliant thinking on the Cafť to other members. Olly [/quote]

No,sorry, you mis-interpret Mr Olly. Not sarcasm this time. Rather amazement at what they come up with for this little device. They've obviously put some time into their routines.

I own one too and thinks it's a great piece of Magic.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 20, 2018 09:02AM)
[quote]On Dec 19, 2018, Oil&Water wrote:
Hi John T the clear plastic container I presume is also housed so that it canít slide side to side when the mini briefcase is shut. Great idea Olly [/quote]

Hi Olly:

I placed a piece of black velvet on the bottom of the small box. The mini briefcase is lined with velvet as well. When the two velvet pieces touch they lock and the small box does not move in the briefcase :) These little briefcases really command attention and people are always curious to see what is inside.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Dec 20, 2018 10:33AM)
Thanks John for that info it looks great, I happen to have a little leather one I got about 20 years ago from Mark Mason for business cards that does the job too. Kudos for a super idea and thanks again for sharing. Olly
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 20, 2018 11:59AM)
I really wish I could put you all on Payroll for writing routines for us. This effect has evolved into more than we ever expected here.

On a shameless plug, according to the US Postal System, today is the last day for First Class shippings to make it by Christmas , the 21st is cut off for Priority mail.
we have 43 units left and would like to see Zero :)

John, were can I get one of those little suitcases.I have some gaffs and that would make a perfect safe haven for them.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Payner44 (Dec 20, 2018 03:53PM)
Here's a pretty simple routine I came up with that requires 3 caskets! Ideally you do this with 3 people, but it could be 1 or even 2.

I introduce the caskets as I take them apart and place them on the table or mat in their 3 pieces. I then instruct the participants to mix and match the pieces to create 3 all new caskets, after which they are to place the Kennedy's inside either heads up or tails up or without looking. They are then to put the lids on and place them in the middle of the mat in front of them. I tell them I will turn my back the entire time this happens. Once completed I turn around and one by one I share some patter as I slide the caskets back towards them to get my tell and announce the coins orientations.

Take a bow!!
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Dec 20, 2018 04:11PM)
Payner44 I have this and love this but you surely are on the sales team with Mad Jake and registered just before he sold number 44 ( joking ) offering a 3 coin monte effect to get rid of the remaining stock before Christmas lol. They deserve to all be sold to be fair as this is brilliant, Olly
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 20, 2018 04:59PM)
This is a great piece of work and well worth the coin but one is enough in terms of caskets. An extra coin might be a good idea though.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 20, 2018 05:33PM)
[quote]On Dec 20, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:

John, were can I get one of those little suitcases.I have some gaffs and that would make a perfect safe haven for them.

Jake Jr. [/quote]

Hey Jake:

A quick google search will reveal many sources, this is one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-Mini-Briefcase-Suitcase-Business-Bank-Card-Name-Card-Holder-Case-Box-Black-/331941355309

Nice idea to engage multiple spectators Payner... earlier Payner shared with me the subtlety of getting the read just by sliding the box a bit on the table with your fingertips... works great.

John
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 20, 2018 06:12PM)
And yet another way to get the tell. Good suggestion. I like it. It always helps to have multiple possibilities in case you need them.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 20, 2018 11:39PM)
Thank you John, I did a search and wasn't sure if it was like yours. Thank you for the link.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Dec 21, 2018 10:03AM)
[quote]On Dec 19, 2018, J M Talbot wrote:
Some photos below of the set-up I am now using for the Coin Casket. Everything is carried in a small metal briefcase which I have lined with black velvet (these cases are easily sourced online).

Inside the case is a small box containing the Coin Casket. I made an insert to nicely house the Casket in this box. I perform first with just the casket, then comment that they might think I get a clue from touching the box. For the second phase they seal the casket in the small box... I still determine if it is heads or tails. I comment that while I cannot touch the box, possibly they think I am getting a clue through the clear lid. For the last phase I tell them to seal the casket in the small box and then seal in the briefcase (while my back is turned). Sometimes I also have them place the coin in the casket behind their back for this phase so that even they do not know if it is heads or tails (I explain this precludes me getting any clues from their body language).

This three phase routine that looks like increasingly impossible conditions is playing great and the boxes make a great way to carry and store the casket :)

[img]https://i.imgur.com/bwskIbq.png[/img]

Cheers,

John [/quote]

Great idea, John! I found the little card holder briefcase on Amazon. But where did you get the clear plastic box of the right size? Everything I'm finding is too large.

Thanks!

Mark
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Dec 21, 2018 10:36AM)
Okay, I've figured out that the type of plastic case I need to search for is a clear polystyrene type. John, Is your case 2" x 2" with a 1/4" inside height? I've found that size online. The next larger size is 3/4" tall, which is too tall. The Coin Casket is exactly 1/4" thick so I'm wondering if the Casket just barely fits in your case. That is, of course, what we want (a tight fit with the plastic lid pressing down on the Casket) but with the added thickness of the velvet, I wonder if 1/4" tall would be too tight.

Unfortunately, the source I found will only sell in lots of 100. I hope there's a better way. Perhaps Hobby Lobby or Michael's?

Mark
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Dec 21, 2018 10:39AM)
This is the mini briefcase I found on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QSYNHRA/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$12.99, which is about $6 more than the eBay one but I'll have mine on Sunday (Amazon Prime).

Mark
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 21, 2018 05:06PM)
Hey Mark, my small box is 3/8" deep. 1/4" might be a bit tight. I got my box with a bunch of samples from a company many years ago for project I was working on back then. So I cannot be of more help on a source.

John
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Dec 21, 2018 06:15PM)
[quote]On Dec 21, 2018, J M Talbot wrote:
Hey Mark, my small box is 3/8" deep. 1/4" might be a bit tight. I got my box with a bunch of samples from a company many years ago for project I was working on back then. So I cannot be of more help on a source.

John [/quote]

Thanks, John. I'll find something, I'm sure. Thanks for the idea. I've got a 3 trick mentalism routine in mind. First I'll do Coin Casket with just the casket and the pendulum. Then I'll repeat it with the plastic case and mini briefcase. Then I'll mention that, "As impressive as getting it right twice in a row happens to be, it's still only a 50/50 chance of being wrong." "Let's raise the odds", which is when I'lll turn to my ESP Die-Cipher. "Now there's only a 1 in 6 chance of getting it right." Following the Die-Cipher performance I'll turn to a deck of cards and perform the 52 to 1 card trick. "This kicks the odds up to 1 in 52!"

If they aren't impressed at the end of those three then it's time to go home. :)

Mark
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 23, 2018 05:28PM)
Found a source for the clear boxes. We ordered a bunch as we can use them for the coin shells we make. Will be happy to let you all know when they arrive.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Dec 23, 2018 07:39PM)
Thanks, Jake Jr. You probably had to order something like 100 of them (minimum)?

Are you going to sell the clear plastic boxes just as empty boxes?

Thanks!

Mark
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 23, 2018 07:50PM)
We ordered a 1000 piece case lot. We're just going to sell the empty boxes, they won't be much, and the others we plan in using for gaffed coins
we have planned for 2019. Lot's of uses for the boxes. We also ordered a couple dozen black suitcases as well.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 23, 2018 08:35PM)
Your welcome... :)
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 23, 2018 08:45PM)
And yes, thank you John! We're just going to sell them for what we pay for them. It just takes forever to get them from China when you buy them by the piece.
You order some quantity China dealers are happy to send via E-Packet which usually arrives into US customs in about 5 days vs. a month for economy.

And again Thank you John and if you rather I not offer the items, please let me know. I had just figured since they were out in the forum now
to make them easy to get. I don't want to step on your toes on this one.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Dec 23, 2018 10:27PM)
No worries Jake... the routine is working great for me. Hope a few others are able to make a set. I showed it to a number of magicians at the magic shop yesterday. I could have sold a number of sets on the spot :).

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Dec 27, 2018 03:02PM)
Hey Jake, I got this for Christmas after asking for it, but my wife (Tarah Stockwell) ordered it and may get the ebook/forthcoming routines in her email. Long story short, she's not great about finding those emails. Could you add me by chance? I can contact you for proof and identity.

Really looking forward to using this in a routine. Very nice. And I too, would love to know the visual method and/or the way to insure sometime doesn't trip me up and not put it in secretly. Great item!
Message: Posted by: terrillific (Dec 27, 2018 03:05PM)
I'd love to see an ebook on routines you can do with it.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 27, 2018 04:59PM)
Frederick is still working on the e-book. Holidays took just about all our time on filling orders. He wanted to include some of the ones posted here but hasn't heard back
from the authors.

A Happy Healthy New Years to all!

Jake Jr. & Frederick
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 27, 2018 05:00PM)
There is supposed to be one being sent to all purchasers but I don't know when.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 27, 2018 05:02PM)
[quote]On Dec 27, 2018, Nathan Alexander wrote:
Hey Jake, I got this for Christmas after asking for it, but my wife (Tarah Stockwell) ordered it and may get the ebook/forthcoming routines in her email. Long story short, she's not great about finding those emails. Could you add me by chance? I can contact you for proof and identity.

Really looking forward to using this in a routine. Very nice. And I too, would love to know the visual method and/or the way to insure sometime doesn't trip me up and not put it in secretly. Great item! [/quote]

Nathan,
just PM me an alternate email address and we'll add it to the account. I'll shoot you off an email with the Trip up avoidance.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Dec 30, 2018 10:46AM)
Iíd be surprised if every magician from beginners to us old-timers donít own one of these. What a fantastic piece of high quality apparatus.

Recommended highly!

Steve
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Dec 30, 2018 12:54PM)
The Coin Casket provides one of those fairly rare experiences in which the product, once received, exceeds the buyers reasonable expectations.
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Dec 30, 2018 01:10PM)
[quote]On Dec 30, 2018, George Hunter wrote:
The Coin Casket provides one of those fairly rare experiences in which the product, once received, exceeds the buyers reasonable expectations. [/quote]

Enough already. We have all this hype for this prop just because it's the best in 2018 or maybe the last couple of years. Whew!!!!!

Happy New Year to all.

Steve
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 30, 2018 03:11PM)
Agreed one great product at a reasonable price. :smiles:
Message: Posted by: aligator (Dec 30, 2018 04:46PM)
I agree that this does exceed expectations but can't help but think that many should be more careful about what they buy.
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Dec 30, 2018 05:50PM)
This is very good but the tell is not as easy as people make out. I have to handle it differently than the instructions described to guarantee a read otherwise itís inconsistant unless given some decent movements. Sometimes you get it off the bat othertimes itís location in the casket makes the tell harder. Olly
Message: Posted by: egoli (Dec 30, 2018 06:01PM)
I also tried it for the first time today and found I had mixed results. I was getting the spectator to put it in my hand behind my back - maybe not the best idea.

Ed
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Dec 30, 2018 06:27PM)
[quote]On Dec 30, 2018, Oil&Water wrote:
This is very good but the tell is not as easy as people make out. I have to handle it differently than the instructions described to guarantee a read otherwise itís inconsistant unless given some decent movements. Sometimes you get it off the bat othertimes itís location in the casket makes the tell harder. Olly [/quote]

I hate to use the term knack, I think more of a feel or finesse. The more you work with it, the more finessfu you'll get. By way of example, a lot of people perform the haunted skeleton key. In some hands it is obvious, while in others, its totally hidden. So many ways to use: pick it up and place in spectators hand, push it on your mat, etc. Like everything, even though it is easy, practice while watching TV for a little while.

Best

Steve
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 30, 2018 06:46PM)
It also depends on your pitch or patter and how much time you give yourself.

If you don't make it interesting you will feel guilty and consequently look guilty.

This is why magicians usually have a lot of full drawers.

In the old days when we got to see an effect demoed we thought, cool I'll buy it and look like the magician in the store
Well when you got it home and opened it you realized, wow, I must have missed a lot of the moves he did I didn't see a thing. You mean I have to do all that? (open drawer, in it goes) haha

You need a pitch for all magic no matter how "self working" it may seem or be.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 30, 2018 07:11PM)
This is the first time I've heard of any inconsistent predictions with the routine supplied. I know all caskets are tested by me before they are even packaged. I just can't figure out what could be going wrong as it is a Pos./Neg. result that deduces the Revelation.
With the straight simple routine that is provided it's a no fail performance. I would appreciate an in depth explanation of the hit or miss situation in a PM please so I can help you get the most out of your prop.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: egoli (Dec 30, 2018 07:19PM)
Just sent you a PM

Ed
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 30, 2018 07:29PM)
Ed,
sent you a reply and solved the issue for you. Now go knock em dead!

Kind regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: egoli (Dec 30, 2018 07:31PM)
Received thanks - great help and a good idea - I'll try it out tomorrow

Ed
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 30, 2018 11:02PM)
[quote]On Dec 30, 2018, Mad Jake wrote:
This is the first time I've heard of any inconsistent predictions with the routine supplied. I know all caskets are tested by me before they are even packaged. I just can't figure out what could be going wrong as it is a Pos./Neg. result that deduces the Revelation.
With the straight simple routine that is provided it's a no fail performance. I would appreciate an in depth explanation of the hit or miss situation in a PM please so I can help you get the most out of your prop.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr. [/quote]

It's perfect.
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Dec 31, 2018 04:53AM)
As I say if itís on the edge already touching the casket when you retrieve it then you have to do more to get what you need . Itís more than doable and easy but you have to adapt once you retrieve it on occasions. I believe a vacuum is sometimes created when the lid is replaced and the air restricts what you need to happen which creates the variants. If you had a pin hole in the lid or base perhaps in the grooves this could be elemenated unless perhaps you inadvertently covered the pin with you finger. Itís still very very easy and these are tiny nuances we are discussing here.
I know I am not the only one as I have had quite a few pms about it. Brilliant effect though I love it, Olly
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 31, 2018 05:14AM)
Olly,
I wish all the PM's you received had come to me so I could address this issue. I just went through a bunch of coins and the last boxes and still can't find an issue.
Every box is identical in specs. Unless it's the coin. A vacuum doesn't make any sense as the volume of the coin is too large to interfere with any type of vacuum forming.

I still don't understand why Quite a few would contact you about it.

Jake Jr
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Dec 31, 2018 06:55AM)
Itís because I pmed the people on here Jake who were having massive success with the handling, I thought I would ask them their handlings via a private pm.
Then lots of them actually told me they had slight issues too, but were easily resolved everytime with some subtle nuances.
Itís a wonderful prop and perfectly made I just wanted the info at an instant 100% of the time and now I have. Happy New Year Olly
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 31, 2018 07:06AM)
Thank you Olly. I just want everyone to know that I'm here Post sales for any help and questions.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Dec 31, 2018 07:15AM)
For those who have only just received this item, it is well worth handling and getting familiar with it. The more times you pick it up, hold or even look, the more you will be able to use and appreciate.

Neil
Message: Posted by: Payner44 (Dec 31, 2018 08:44AM)
Since I haven't seen it mentioned, but most have probably experienced, the tell is easier to get with the casket on a hard surface versus a mat when sliding it to do so (which is my preferred method). At least that's my experience.
Message: Posted by: egoli (Dec 31, 2018 11:53AM)
100% success today - all my spectators completely baffled - Thanks Jake
Ed
Message: Posted by: carlwag (Dec 31, 2018 06:20PM)
In my opinion this is as simple as it gets , within minutes I had this down but before reading the method I had no clue, awesome effect


Carl
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Dec 31, 2018 08:53PM)
Perfectly stated, Carl.
Message: Posted by: Seth speaks (Jan 1, 2019 12:54AM)
This is such a great item! Small, beautiful, simple. Works perfectly every time. Iím thinking about picking up another one for my daughter to fry some of her classmates... (Iíd give her mine, but I love it too much!!). :D

Seth
Message: Posted by: John C (Jan 1, 2019 09:15AM)
[quote]On Dec 31, 2018, NeilS wrote:
For those who have only just received this item, it is well worth handling and getting familiar with it. The more times you pick it up, hold or even look, the more you will be able to use and appreciate.

Neil [/quote]

As every magic device we purchase. Yes.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jan 1, 2019 11:20AM)
Jake Jr., Did you receive the clear polypropylene cases yet?

Thanks!

Mark
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 1, 2019 03:34PM)
[quote]On Jan 1, 2019, Magic Mark wrote:
Jake Jr., Did you receive the clear polypropylene cases yet?

Thanks!

Mark [/quote]

I have a case coming from overseas. As soon as they come in I'll post them on our website.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jan 1, 2019 07:58PM)
Mine is on order. After reading through this thread, I have some ideas which I look forward to trying and will be happy to share once I see if they are worth working.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Jan 2, 2019 09:05AM)
Always new ideas coming forward. This is destined to be a long thread.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 2, 2019 01:33PM)
We've been getting messages on our website in a Guest Cart. We can't answer these questions unless you register as a Free Member..
we can't answer Guest messages as there is no email address to reply to. I'm not trying to post policy in this thread, just letting prospective
customers how to reach us.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 4, 2019 05:39PM)
Some of the little black Suitcases came in today, that balance will be in next week. These are a nice quality and even if you don't use it in conjunction
with John Talbot's routine, make a nice storage case for coins. They've been posted on the website.
Message: Posted by: DocT25 (Jan 4, 2019 10:02PM)
Just received this, and - just as most above do - I recommend this highly. Great method, works perfectly, and the quality is terrific.

Mad Jake - when might do you expect the ebook to be available?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 4, 2019 10:12PM)
Hi Doc, thank you for your kind words we're so glad you like it. Frederick plans to get back to the ebook the middle of this month. He has some custom chop cups he's doing as well as our next 3 releases and then will be back to the book. He was looking through this thread and kind of got depressed with the "Why didn't I think of that?" :) Everyone has been so creative with this piece.

I've said it over and over in this thread, I never expected this kind of response and it's very humbling to see so many magicians coming up with something other than just the basic routine we included. We feel good about about this release because everyone has been so positive about it and we feel like we've contributed something useful for performers to use and carry in their pocket.

Jake Jr & Frederick
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jan 5, 2019 01:37PM)
I have received my Brass Coin Casket and have been enjoying playing around with it. As others have mentioned, Which Hand tricks are a natural with it. I am going a different route with it though. So far, it has passed the wife test and I am looking forward to doing this for real people for their reactions.

I have a leather coin purse from Magic By Gosh that holds the coin casket perfectly, so after doing the basic routine a couple of times, I followed up with Stephen Tuckerís ĎImpossibleí, (a routine of 3 different objects hidden while the performers back is turned and the performer is 100% correct on what is where). I had the coin placed back in the casket and before placing the casket back in the purse, I removed a small envelope from it (the purse) and then the casket went into the purse.... ĎYes or no, do you remember if you placed the coin heads up or tails up?í as I was opening the envelope. Thanks to John Cís Ultimate Positive Negative, the prediction matched how the coin was replaced.

.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Jan 5, 2019 04:39PM)
Good routine Wravyn. Thanks for posting.
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Jan 5, 2019 06:12PM)
Where is Johns positive negative found? Regards Olly
Message: Posted by: aligator (Jan 5, 2019 07:36PM)
Ask him. He's very friendly.
Message: Posted by: Seth speaks (Jan 6, 2019 11:45AM)
I've been toying around with using the Coin Casket to do a version of Colin McLeod's "Perfect Prediction" from his book [i]Divine[/i] to choose a name, place, and item, except using heads and tails instead of right hand or left hand. And with this casket, it can be done without the very expensive gadget you need to perform it as written. I've also ordered another Coin Casket so that I can do it a bit more smoothly. In short, they make several choices using H/T, and in the process of taking one casket and handing them another, I've got all the info I need! In fact, you can do it three times just like in his book, but only need to handle it twice, if on the second time you say, "and whatever you chose the first time, do the opposite this time." Hope that is vague enough but still makes sense!

And guys, there are like five of these left... if you're on the fence, grab it now! This is one of the best items to come down the pike in a long time.

Seth
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jan 6, 2019 12:31PM)
Just to come back to the mixing of ĎImpossibleí with this... after seeing the reaction of a few times with others, it is not worthwhile and does not add anything, to be honest, I feel it subtracted from the whole thing. I may still toy around with the idea but it seems as if just the simplicity of being correct with heads or tails was a more enjoyable experience for everyone.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Jan 6, 2019 01:25PM)
Simplicity is never a bad option.
Message: Posted by: mtstic44 (Jan 7, 2019 06:51PM)
I love the simplicity of this trick. I tell them to put the coin in the casket heads or tails and then put it in the velvet bag
then I put it in my hand and wave a hand over it and tell them which side. That's it not too complicated.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 7, 2019 07:03PM)
For those that do choose to follow this effect with a Which Hand routine using a ma***t detector, it does allow you to use a Super Strong Kreis half dollar in a pretty logical way.

But note that my Kreis half didn't work with my casket so I had to find a matching regular half and then switch it in at the end. That may sound complicated but it's actually super simple and easy and flies by everyone. But you may not even need to do a switch because I believe the Kreis coins vary a bit.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 9, 2019 08:55PM)
Okay, a few asked about a silver dollar size, but for which kind of dollar? Morgan or Ike?
Message: Posted by: dman11 (Jan 9, 2019 09:04PM)
[quote]On Jan 9, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
Okay, a few asked about a silver dollar size, but for which kind of dollar? Morgan or Ike? [/quote]

Ike
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 9, 2019 09:05PM)
I would prefer one in a Morgan version myself.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 9, 2019 10:15PM)
Wouldnít work well - if at all - with soft Morgans. Ikes would be more likely to work since they donít really soften.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 9, 2019 11:04PM)
I've had good luck with Soft Walkers and Franklins. Soft Morgans might be a whole different beast.
Message: Posted by: Seth speaks (Jan 9, 2019 11:56PM)
Ikes please! :D I mean, if we're voting...

Seth
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 10, 2019 12:22AM)
Don't mean to throw a wrench into things but I'd probably rather see it go in the opposite direction, so I vote for quarters.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 10, 2019 12:38AM)
[quote]On Jan 10, 2019, videoman wrote:
Don't mean to throw a wrench into things but I'd probably rather see it go in the opposite direction, so I vote for quarters. [/quote]

I was told by a fellow Cafť member that Abbott's Magic did a quarter version years ago.
Message: Posted by: rockbrunnen (Jan 10, 2019 05:35AM)
Peace dollar!
Message: Posted by: ATXTimeLord (Jan 10, 2019 07:42AM)
My vote is for Morgans...

mG
Message: Posted by: lin (Jan 10, 2019 12:23PM)
Quarters, if possible.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jan 10, 2019 02:32PM)
Yes quarters would be cool if possible :).

Had a quick trip to L.A. and a couple of nights at the Castle... had a chance to show my routine with the Casket to a few Magician friends... they really liked it and were impressed with the prop.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 11, 2019 01:42AM)
First thing when I get back from Ma. I'll start the specs on the new boxes.
Message: Posted by: Sudo Nimh (Jan 11, 2019 01:54AM)
Would this work with any quarter? I'm Canadian and our quarters are the same size as US quarters.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 11, 2019 02:14AM)
[quote]On Jan 11, 2019, Sudo Nimh wrote:
Would this work with any quarter? I'm Canadian and our quarters are the same size as US quarters. [/quote]

There is a coin shop in New Bedford here in Ma. When I get back to shore I'll stop in there and pick up a Canadian quarter
to work with. I'm thinking international boxes wouldn't be a bad idea.
Message: Posted by: Sudo Nimh (Jan 11, 2019 05:30AM)
Sweet. Being able to do this with a coin we have in actual circulation here would be a real benefit. Thanks Jake.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Jan 11, 2019 08:52AM)
I use this with a mix of currencies forcing, by equivoque, the half dollar and then proceeding with the routine. I have found this works really well and conclude with which hand. The whole thing is like a close-up set piece.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 11, 2019 09:08AM)
Quarter box would be nice.

Jim
Message: Posted by: aligator (Jan 11, 2019 09:17AM)
My routine is similar to Neil's except in a different order.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Jan 15, 2019 12:58PM)
I also would like to see this in USA quarter size. Nice quality prop simple and easy to carry. Like the 3 level plastic box in the mini briefcase idea looks great.

Richard
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 16, 2019 04:06AM)
HI Magic Cafť Members! My name is Frederick, I'm Mad Jake Jr.'s brother. The E-book for this prop is coming along slowly. Just about every idea I had for the box has
already been brought up here in this thread. Some members have submitted their routines to be included in the book. What I am now planning is to release the e-book
and as more routines become available, I'll revise the e-book and update the download link for the book.

Thank you to those who have submitted their ideas and routines and they will be credited to you in the e-book.

Sincerely,
Frederick
Message: Posted by: aligator (Jan 16, 2019 10:47AM)
Good work Frederick. Hope to be seeing this release soon.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jan 16, 2019 10:13PM)
Fredrick or Jake Jr., Any word on the little plastic boxes for the little briefcase?

Mark
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Jan 17, 2019 01:31AM)
In the UK there are ear plugs used for cabin pressure discomfort used when flying . These are cheap the (generic brands) but the plastic cases the plugs come in fit the job as far as the plastic container goes. Olly
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jan 21, 2019 06:54PM)
I have added a little "bit of business" to my routine with the mini briefcase. SEO magic has recently added to their site the "Coin Light"

https://www.seomagic-usa.com/product_info.php/cPath/21/products_id/2263

Essentially it is a small pocket flashlight that projects the image of a Kennedy Half dollar. I am using it now in my Casket routine. In the last phase when everything is locked in the briefcase I feign difficulty in determining if it is heads or tails. Introduce the light as a mini "X-ray" device. Shine the light on the box and they see the image of the half with the heads showing... "Of course it's heads :)"

[img]https://i.imgur.com/U67p88p.jpg[/img]

Get's a nice reaction and as many know many times these "little bits" are what the spectator will remember the most :). The light will only project heads so you need to have it in that orientation. However I have also turned the case over and shined it on the back and determining it is heads so they must have placed tails face up :). Thought I would share... of course the light could be used with just the brass casket.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 21, 2019 07:19PM)
Clear snap cases for use with the Briefcases are in.

https://airshipmagic.com/store/home/94-lined-snap-case-for-brass-coin-casket-effect.html
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jan 22, 2019 12:00AM)
[quote]On Jan 21, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
Clear snap cases for use with the Briefcases are in.

https://airshipmagic.com/store/home/94-lined-snap-case-for-brass-coin-casket-effect.html [/quote]

Thanks, Jake Jr. I ordered a couple.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 23, 2019 12:57AM)
Mark,

thank you for the purchase. We appreciate it.

As to the other sizes, I spoke with Jake and he said since he would be doing the 1/4 size Jim Zee Roth Set when he gets back, he would start the first run of 1/4 size Coin Caskets.
After the 1/4 box Jim Zee sets, he's going to make the $ size Jim Zee Roth Sets and will also do a run of Dollar Size Coin Caskets. What's nice too is the plastic cases and Briefcases
will accommodate both the 1/4 size and Dollar Size boxes.

On another note. People have been bringing to my and Jake's attention that there is someone selling the Brass Coin Casket on an auction site and were wondering if these were ours
or someone had copied them. These were made by Jake. Jake has a friend in PA. that is retired and lives on a meager fixed income, to help him out just before the release he sent
his friend a bunch of boxes so he could make some extra money. We appreciate everyone looking out for us, but the seller is legitimate and a very sweet gentleman. New customers
can get the caskets through him until he sells out. He doesn't have a lot of them, but he can use the money to supplement his income.

Update on the PDF I have been working on has stalled. I have come up with so many ideas only to find out they are already here in this thread already routined by other performers.
Some have been kind enough to let me include their routines in the e-book, but so far I only have a 1 1/2 pages, I'm totally stalled on this.

I'm not sure when Jake will be returning from overseas, but in the mean time please feel free to call on me for anything.

Sincerely Yours,
Frederick
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Jan 23, 2019 08:45AM)
Jake

That is great news about making the Coin Caskets in quarter size. I will for sure buy possibly 3 of them maybe more as gifts. Will it be a long time before these will be available?

Thanks
Richard
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Jan 23, 2019 08:56AM)
Looking forward to the quarter size as well. And I love that you help your friend like that. Very cool.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Jan 23, 2019 09:57AM)
I like everything about the Brass Coin Casket but am disappointed with the progress of the ebook.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jan 23, 2019 10:57AM)
Definitely interested in the quarter size and fingers crossed it works with a Canadian quarter :)

There has been a nice assortment of ideas shared in this thread. If they could be summarized on a sheet or two would make a nice addendum to the instructions... just a thought.

John
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 23, 2019 11:58AM)
I really haven't paid much attention to the ideas shared in this thread only because of the mention of an ebook coming out and making it available all in one place and easier to read. Saved me from having to copy and paste and essentially make my own ebook. Now it sounds like I may have to go back and do that.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 23, 2019 12:05PM)
[quote]On Jan 23, 2019, J M Talbot wrote:
Definitely interested in the quarter size and fingers crossed it works with a Canadian quarter :)

There has been a nice assortment of ideas shared in this thread. If they could be summarized on a sheet or two would make a nice addendum to the instructions... just a thought.

John [/quote]

Jake asked in this thread if anyone would like their routine published in the e-book and only a couple have replied and given permission. There really isn't a disappointment with the e-book
Aligator, all the information is right here in this thread :)

-Frederick
www.airshipmagic.com
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jan 23, 2019 12:08PM)
I would assume if posted here it could be used but perhaps not... anything I have shared can certainly be used and I appreciate that the Briefcase idea has a credit to me on the website.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 23, 2019 12:21PM)
John,

I asked Jake about this. He explained to me that all posts become the copyright of the Magic Cafť, so it left me in a quandary of being able to post the ideas and or routines without expressed permission of the poster.
I didn't give up or not work on the e-book, its just every idea I had was posted here already and not hearing back from others to use the material and credit them in the e-book, but only 2 people replied and their material
is in this thread. Sometimes Technology sucks, ideas are transmitted too quickly in my opinion.

Jake and I both strongly believe in crediting everyone, whether they be a writer, inventor etc. I researched the coin casket for 5 months and was able to trace it's existence back to the 1930's in either France or Germany.
As far as the actual creator, I've never been able to find out who actually designed it. I have several computers that do nothing but mine Data, I'm a history nut.

I hope people understand about the book, people were just smarter and quicker here to share their ideas.

-Frederick
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jan 23, 2019 12:48PM)
No worries Frederick, understood. I applaud your efforts to do the right thing with crediting and permissions, etc.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Jan 23, 2019 05:17PM)
Only one thing Frederick those other ideas, well I am pretty sure Jake says in this thread you had come up with all these ideas yourself indepently before they were posted on here except Johns?
Therefore you have every right to put them in an ebook in my view. Olly
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 23, 2019 05:32PM)
[quote]On Jan 23, 2019, Oil&Water wrote:
Only one thing Frederick those other ideas, well I am pretty sure Jake says in this thread you had come up with all these ideas yourself indepently before they were posted on here except Johns?
Therefore you have every right to put them in an ebook in my view. Olly [/quote]

IP doesn't work like that. I had ideas, but not written out patter or routines. I find it hardly fair to just take the ideas from here and translate them in my words, that is borderline plagiarism
and IP theft. The last thing that Jake or I want to do is copy routines.

After taking time to jot down different possible uses for the Casket, the thread had grown so rapidly and had the same ideas I had. Since they are here, I do not wish to upset any creator or
contributor here by just assuming I can rewrite their ideas/routines into an ebook.

-Frederick
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jan 23, 2019 06:07PM)
I may be wrong but I donít believe it is all in this thread. There has been mention made of being able to get a read visibly. In fact, I thought there was more than one method, and they really havenít been revealed in the thread. I was under the impression that the ebook would cover these in more detail. So it was more the subtleties and nuances I was most interested in rather than full blown routines.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 23, 2019 06:24PM)
[quote]On Jan 23, 2019, videoman wrote:
I may be wrong but I donít believe it is all in this thread. There has been mention made of being able to get a read visibly. In fact, I thought there was more than one method, and they really havenít been revealed in the thread. I was under the impression that the ebook would cover these in more detail. So it was more the subtleties and nuances I was most interested in rather than full blown routines. [/quote]

Videoman, I've sent you a PM
Message: Posted by: DocT25 (Jan 23, 2019 06:28PM)
Yes -- I've been interested in the same ... although I'll admit I was also hoping for a few routine ideas. So I was anxiously awaiting the appearance of the e-book. :/

[quote]On Jan 23, 2019, videoman wrote:
I may be wrong but I donít believe it is all in this thread. There has been mention made of being able to get a read visibly. In fact, I thought there was more than one method, and they really havenít been revealed in the thread. I was under the impression that the ebook would cover these in more detail. So it was more the subtleties and nuances I was most interested in rather than full blown routines. [/quote]
Message: Posted by: John C (Jan 23, 2019 06:40PM)
[quote]On Jan 23, 2019, aligator wrote:
I like everything about the Brass Coin Casket but am disappointed with the progress of the ebook. [/quote]

How is that possible Mr aligator. Isn't the ebook free?

Isn't the coin casket good enough on its own? Aren't there already many various ways to use it?

Are you really disappointed?
Message: Posted by: aligator (Jan 23, 2019 07:11PM)
In general, I am always disappointed when things that are promised are not delivered.

The casket is excellent value as is and I don't need an ebook but having one might be of value to some others who were expecting it.
Message: Posted by: RedDevil (Jan 23, 2019 07:22PM)
I have toyed with the idea of asking Jake's blessing and writing an ebook myself about this item and include some video segments. I have developed/discovered some techniques with the casket that I have only shared with a few (including Jake, but asked that they not be released). If there is enough interest, and people wanted to contribute them (either techniques or routines), I might take this on as a little project in the next month or so, and it might be a way for some members of the Cafť to get a magic literature credit for their contribution. That is, if Mad Jake gave me his blessing to write and market the book.

Considering the fact he is considering quarters and dollar versions of this, this thing is going to grow. I almost begged him to stop making this thing because I didn't want anyone else to have it. I suspect there is going to be a lot of interest in this in the next five years and an ebook would not be gratuitious. Another thing I like about the ebook is that it will keep the methods from being shared too much and randomly on the searchable forums. This is one of my favorite props ever. I just love it, and I have lots of ideas with it, and it is my bet that if I showed the people who purchased it what I have discovered with it, I would fool half of them that already know the secret behind it. Thus, I would love to see its methods and secrets treated with the secrecy they deserve.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 23, 2019 07:59PM)
I'm pleased to announce the E-Book project has been transferred to RedDevil, whom I'm sure will do a better job at than me.

-Frederick
Message: Posted by: RedDevil (Jan 23, 2019 08:40PM)
Hahahahaha...you owe me one...;)
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 23, 2019 08:58PM)
[quote]On Jan 23, 2019, RedDevil wrote:
Hahahahaha...you owe me one...;) [/quote]

Yes I do! This officially ends my publishing career, I'm sticking with my wood shop and making props.

Like my brother said a few times in the thread here, we never expected this to be the hit it has become. So when all the ideas started flying on here I was shot
down with my ideas as they were covered here. I had the ideas, just not the routining down.

I just sent Jake an email telling him I made a deal with "The Devil of the day" lol.

Frederick
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jan 23, 2019 09:30PM)
Jake Jr or Frederick,

I ordered four of the little plastic cases on Monday. Given how quickly my Coin Casket shipped, I'm surprised I haven't received a shipping notice for for the plastic cases yet. Is there a delay?

Mark
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 23, 2019 09:43PM)
Mark,
thank you. I went to get the shipping boxes and Uline sent the wrong size, the boxes are HUGE. I have 2 cases of shipping boxes coming in 2 days and all orders will ship right out.
The corrected boxes are the same they ship playing card decks in. I can't ship them in bubble envelopes for obvious reasons. It' will just be a couple of days. I'm very sorry.

Frederick
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jan 24, 2019 12:12AM)
No worries, Frederick. I was just surprised is all.

Thank you for the prompt response.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jan 24, 2019 12:56PM)
It's very refreshing to read so much enthusiasm & routining ideas for a new effect. I'm there for the future quarter version. Congrats on a winner.
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Jan 24, 2019 03:13PM)
Excellent Frederick , horses for courses as I am sure you have enough on your plate and RedDevil is definitely the man.
Great stuff Olly.
Message: Posted by: Payner44 (Jan 24, 2019 03:45PM)
I want RedDevil to know that I own 3 of these caskets and shared a routine in this thread, which should place me near the head of the line for the eBook release!! :)

Thanks in advance!!
Message: Posted by: RedDevil (Jan 24, 2019 07:06PM)
Hi, all. Just to clarify. Airship has given me the blessing to write a methods ebook using the coin casket as the topic and to give me the rights to market the book.

I told Frederick what I have in mind, and I don't intend this to be a scrapped together or sloppy collection of submissions, but rather a quality ebook to explore history, credits, construction process, methods and routines and aspects associated with the prop.

I believe in order to do it right, it will take me a couple of months to get it through the drafting and editing phases and then add a few design touches. If I write the book, I have a personal standard I will apply to it, and I will put in a considerable about of time. Thus, I told Frederick that I intend to market it as a separate product to purchase. Right now, I can forsee a 40-60 page PDF ebook product or more that is polished and edited (depending on the number and quality of submissions I receive from different performers), and I am outlining the contents and organization as we speak. Hopefully this will time with the release of their expansion of the prop to other size US or foreign coins. How much will it cost? I don't know. I figure I will put 40-60 hours into it (like my other books) and I will release some ideas that I think are very usable and adaptable to this wonderful, beautiful prop. For $39 bucks we have one of the best close-up props ever made in magic and the basic instructions (just like any other magic purchase0. They don't charge enough IMHO. This book will be a separate purchase for those who want to explore multiple ways to use it and get ideas for developed routines. (kind of like buying a teach-in book on TT's, sponge balls, color changing knives)

Selfishly, I do have a motive for this. For the time I will put into it, I won't make a lot of money. So that's not it. This is one of my favorite props I have ever purchased...and one of the simplest. Thus, I offered to write the ebook to formalize the value of the prop and properly protect its uses and secrets (keeping as much of them off this thread and other searchable forums as possible). Probably I also admit that as a creator, I have some ideas with the casket (and other objects I am playing with) that I want to publish in the magic literature for posterity as well.

If you would like to have a routine or idea published in the book (a great opportunity if you have never had a magic publishing credit in the literature), I will follow up soon with a format to send it in (so go ahead get it written down as best you can, but don't send it yet because I am going to put some parameters on the submissions to keep continuity and make them easier for me to adapt en mass into the book...like proper credit name, writing format, font, font size, file format). I will tell you how to submit it and where. ONce I get them, I will make editing decisions on them and then work on drafting and designing the first edition.

Some of you who have been playing with this I already know very well, and you will have a good idea from my other books how I will approach this task. Any questions, just email me at reddevilmentalism@g.m.ail dot com.
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Jan 24, 2019 07:39PM)
RD:

If you publish it, put me down as a early adopter!

Don't forget to harvest and reflect on the good ideas that are in this lengthy thread.

George
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Jan 24, 2019 08:32PM)
[quote]On Jan 24, 2019, George Hunter wrote:
RD:

If you publish it, put me down as a early adopter!

Don't forget to harvest and reflect on the good ideas that are in this lengthy thread.

George [/quote]

+1 (of what, I'm sure, will turn out to be many!)
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 25, 2019 10:30AM)
What Red has planned is far more than I had in plan. Another plus and very important is that Red has the experience in performing more than myself. This experience will cover
in my opinion will help in different routines that target different type of performers, ie Mentalism, closeup etc.

My apologies to everyone I let down on this. I believe I delved into an area where I had no business being.

Sincerely,
Frederick
Message: Posted by: aligator (Jan 25, 2019 11:18AM)
Look forward to see what RD comes up with. I imagine that it will be very good as are his other writings.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Jan 25, 2019 11:22AM)
[quote]On Jan 25, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
...My apologies to everyone I let down on this. I believe I delved into an area where I had no business being.
Sincerely,
Frederick [/quote]

I believe that I speak for most everyone on this board when I say that no apologies are necessary. This effect is such a winner, and your desire, albeit unsuccessful, to add to it with a (free) ebook is appreciated.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jan 25, 2019 11:37AM)
Look forward to the e-book but have to say that this thread has been a great example of open sharing/brainstorming and to me a great example of the "best side" of the Cafť.
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Jan 25, 2019 03:05PM)
Totally agree with you John it shows great comradery amongst the Cafťs members. Olly
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 26, 2019 05:49PM)
Just to let you all know, we've added "Live Chat" to the site. It's on each page at the lower right hand corner. If either myself or Jake don't answer, please leave a message and
we can reply to it or we can email you back answering your questions.

-Frederick
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 27, 2019 11:01AM)
Another update to the coin casket, we will be offering a new bundle titled "John Talbot's Coin Casket Ensemble". John has agreed to release his private routine
to us and build this package. John is a very talented magician and a gentleman. John's routine is very well thought out and I'm sure will be a hit.

More on the routine and ensemble as we get closer to the release date.

This January was our 1 year anniversary in business and we can contribute a lot of our success to John. John gave us some very valuable insight and business
advice that we feel has helped us to be where we are at. The rest of the success is because of you our customers. We can't thank everyone enough.

I want to also say thank you to Anton Nova who also without asking offered us a wealth of information on work flow, collaboration and fulfillment.

You see, the Magic Cafť has lived up to it's motto, Magicians Helping Magicians.

I don't mean to sound like I'm on a soap box, but Frederick and I are just overwhelmed with the support the magic community has given us. We are very grateful to you all.

Jake Jr.<--- Steps down from his soap box :)
Message: Posted by: aligator (Jan 27, 2019 12:32PM)
It's good to hear of success stories like this. We need more of them.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Jan 27, 2019 01:01PM)
Airship's success is well deserved. Excellent customer service, responsive and helpful together with an absolutely brilliant product.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jan 27, 2019 04:41PM)
Thanks for the kind words Jake. Glad to play a very small part in your success.

John
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jan 27, 2019 05:22PM)
Mad Jake...you're right about that John character. Top flight bloke. I'd even let him date my Seezter.
Message: Posted by: Payner44 (Jan 27, 2019 09:13PM)
Don't give Mr. Talbot too much credit or his hat won't fit anymore. He is a Canuck, after all! :)
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jan 28, 2019 12:22PM)
Lol. That notoriously dodgy T.O. town too. Most Canadians are just thankful that they're not from Winnipeg.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jan 28, 2019 08:38PM)
No time for a snappy comeback... must go shovel the driveway again!!....
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 28, 2019 09:06PM)
[quote]On Jan 28, 2019, J M Talbot wrote:
No time for a snappy comeback... must go shovel the driveway again!!.... [/quote]

I saw a guy on FaceBook that took an old door and mounted it to his riding mower to clear his driveway, absolutely brilliant. Bundle up John

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 29, 2019 12:16AM)
We found a problem on the web store. The price was showing at 44.95, this was because we added different coins to choose from. We fixed it to the default price of 29.95 and now on the right hand of the page
you will see a pull down menu that will allow you to select different half dollars.

Sorry for the confusion.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jan 29, 2019 09:27AM)
[quote]On Jan 28, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
[quote]On Jan 28, 2019, J M Talbot wrote:
No time for a snappy comeback... must go shovel the driveway again!!.... [/quote]

I saw a guy on FaceBook that took an old door and mounted it to his riding mower to clear his driveway, absolutely brilliant. Bundle up John

-MJJ [/quote]

I would have hired that guy this morning! :)
Message: Posted by: aligator (Jan 29, 2019 10:18AM)
How much did you get in Montreal? Ottawa got less than expected.
Message: Posted by: egoli (Jan 29, 2019 10:35AM)
Zero snow in Vancouver - beautiful and sunny!
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jan 29, 2019 10:46AM)
Outside Toronto we got 35 centimeters and lots of fun wind blowing it around :)
Message: Posted by: Payner44 (Jan 29, 2019 11:36AM)
Suck it up, Talbot!! I'm in WI and you don't hear me whining about the weather! ;)
Message: Posted by: TheGingerWizard (Jan 29, 2019 11:41AM)
Iíve noticed the stock has gone up recently and the bit about it being the last run taken of the site. I take it youíve gone back on that decision?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 29, 2019 12:18PM)
We made some more stock for the John Talbot sets and I used up the rest of the bar stock I had.
Message: Posted by: SteveFromSpokane (Jan 30, 2019 05:59AM)
I ordered mine last night. Woke up at 4 AM PST and see it is already shipped.

Do you people sleep?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jan 30, 2019 08:15AM)
We work shifts, we stop what we're doing and package orders and take them directly to the postal drop box :)
Thank you for your order.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 1, 2019 12:28AM)
I've started the blue printing on the new Quarter Size coin casket, again I need input from everyone. There is a big difference between the State Quarter vs. the old Washington Quarter. Which way do I go?

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 1, 2019 06:05AM)
Either way for me. I still have a couple hundred of the eagle-backs and state quarters are common.

Thanks,

Jim
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Feb 1, 2019 08:46AM)
[quote]On Feb 1, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
I've started the blue printing on the new Quarter Size coin casket, again I need input from everyone. There is a big difference between the State Quarter vs. the old Washington Quarter. Which way do I go?

-MJJ [/quote]

Will either work with a Canadian quarter? :)
Message: Posted by: SteveFromSpokane (Feb 2, 2019 01:27PM)
[quote]On Feb 1, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
I've started the blue printing on the new Quarter Size coin casket, again I need input from everyone. There is a big difference between the State Quarter vs. the old Washington Quarter. Which way do I go?

-MJJ [/quote]

Mine just came. I only have one word. Diabolical. Are you kidding me. I kept reading all these postings and kept thinking how can this work.


Precision with capital P.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 11, 2019 03:42PM)
There is a revised Routine sheet for the Coin Casket and our own long standing Cafť member "Martini" has contributed a routine
called "The Haunted Casket"

Rather than messaging me here for copies, could you please send me a request at bbw100@icloud.com. I'll reply with an attachment
of the updated routine and Marini's Haunted Casket Routine.

Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 15, 2019 01:26AM)
To all past customers of the Coin Casket. As an apology for the delay then transfer of the ebook publication to Red Devil, we are now offering Free of charge a pdf of John Talbot's "Press The Flesh"
Like before simply email us at bbw100@icloud.com and we'll send you a copy free of charge.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr. & Frederick
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 16, 2019 04:12AM)
One of the World's Finest Magicians performing our Coin Casket. Enjoy the video.

https://www.stevensmagic.com/shop/coin-casket-divination-brass/

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Feb 16, 2019 06:27AM)
Thanks for sharing the video of Mr. Stevens demonstrating this trick.

On a side note, how is the quarter version coming along?
Message: Posted by: aligator (Feb 16, 2019 09:42AM)
That was a good demonstration. Enjoyed seeing it.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Feb 16, 2019 11:30AM)
[quote]On Feb 14, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
To all past customers of the Coin Casket. As an apology for the delay then transfer of the ebook publication to Red Devil, we are now offering Free of charge a pdf of John Talbot's "Press The Flesh"
Like before simply email us at bbw100@icloud.com and we'll send you a copy free of charge.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr. & Frederick [/quote]

Jake Jr. sent me John's 'Press The Flesh' routine.

John, Thank you for sharing this terrific routine with everyone. I just performed it for my wife and she said it is the best routine for the Coin Casket so far. I particularly like the idea of using the Coin Light as a kicker at the end (if appropriate for the last impression). I placed my order with SEO.

Brilliant! Thank you so much!

Mark
Message: Posted by: taller8 (Feb 16, 2019 11:44AM)
Has anyone tried using the DMC Alpha Yes NO marked cards with this?

Might be fun to know what card they layed down when asked a question about the coin, and the heads or tails of the coin too.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 16, 2019 01:34PM)
I hope these routine updates have put us back in the good graces of our customers. I'm very sorry for letting you down on the e-book.
I'll try to get a few more together and the rest will be up to RedDevil.

My apologies again.

-Frederick
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Feb 16, 2019 09:06PM)
Thanks Mark for your feedback on my routine I appreciate it! It is a go to routine now for me and have had an opportunity to show it frequently.

Recently I acquired one of Jake's beautiful little brass billet switch boxes. I like that the look is similar to the brass casket and will be using it at times for a kicker ending to my "Press the Flesh" routine. The billet switch box is seen on the right in the photo below beside my "Press the Flesh" props.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/lD9ZFor.jpg[/img]

I or the spectator lifts the lid off the box and sees a folded prediction inside. I tell the spectator that I have predicted what the spectator will do the third time we try the exercise. We do the first two phases of my routine and I will point to the billet box periodically and say "remember I already know what your are going to do the third time". Finally after the the third phase the billet box is opened and the spectator unfolds and reads your prediction which of course is correct! :)

[img]https://i.imgur.com/MaQLDAL.jpg[/img]

Cheers!

John
Message: Posted by: egoli (Feb 16, 2019 09:30PM)
Just purchased your "Press The Flesh" routine John but the pdf download is damaged and would not open.

Ed
Message: Posted by: egoli (Feb 16, 2019 09:34PM)
Jake just emailed me the pdf and so all is good now - fast, efficient service as always

Ed
Message: Posted by: John C (Feb 16, 2019 10:00PM)
[quote]On Feb 16, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
I hope these routine updates have put us back in the good graces of our customers. I'm very sorry for letting you down on the e-book.
I'll try to get a few more together and the rest will be up to RedDevil.

My apologies again.

-Frederick [/quote]

Life is short Mad. Do what you do best.
Message: Posted by: egoli (Feb 16, 2019 10:24PM)
The Press The Flesh routine is the same as the one that was offered for free yesterday. Hopefully I can get a refund

Ed
Message: Posted by: egoli (Feb 16, 2019 10:30PM)
And the money is refunded already - Frederick and Jake Jr are fantastic when it comes to service
Message: Posted by: aligator (Feb 18, 2019 10:17AM)
Yes, customer service is first class.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 18, 2019 04:59PM)
Customer service, quality control and fast shipping are the Top 3 priorities with us.
Thank you for the kind words here.

-Frederick
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Feb 21, 2019 09:14PM)
I got my kit. Looks nice but was it supposed to come with instructions or a video link? I havenít read any of this thread. I got bored one night and ordered because everyone here seems to like it. So Iím not really sure what I bought.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 21, 2019 11:00PM)
I got mine today also - doesnít work as described in John's "Press the Flesh" write-up, unfortunately.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 22, 2019 05:19AM)
[quote]On Feb 21, 2019, emyers99 wrote:
I got my kit. Looks nice but was it supposed to come with instructions or a video link? I havenít read any of this thread. I got bored one night and ordered because everyone here seems to like it. So Iím not really sure what I bought. [/quote]

Eric,
please check your email, there is an attachment to it with the routine.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 22, 2019 05:22AM)
[quote]On Feb 22, 2019, J-Mac wrote:
I got mine today also - doesnít work as described in John's "Press the Flesh" write-up, unfortunately.

Jim [/quote]

Jim,
you didn't even give me any time to check into this, you posted here first then a 1/2 hour later sent me an email which I just read.
I"m looking into this right now. But please before you go posting that something doesn't work, give me a chance to address it.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 22, 2019 06:11AM)
I immediately started working on this issue this morning. A very simple solution. In the top of the suitcase is a pocket for business cards or credit cards. I placed 4 business cards in the
pouch in the lid and lo and behold the case no longer is free to move inside the suitcase.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Feb 22, 2019 08:25AM)
[quote]On Feb 22, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
In the top of the suitcase is a pocket for business cards or credit cards. I placed 4 business cards in the
pouch in the lid and lo and behold the case no longer is free to move inside the suitcase.

-MJJ [/quote]

In my routine I suggest a Business card kicker so placing a few cards in the pocket is a good idea...:)

Jim if you have any questions about the routine feel free to PM me.

John
Message: Posted by: aligator (Feb 22, 2019 08:58AM)
I like your routine with the prediction John.
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Feb 22, 2019 09:39AM)
Thanks for emailing me the instructions Jake.

I fiddled with it and ultimately figured it out on my own. Very clever. Worked perfectly with the 1968 half that came with it. I also tried with two Kreiss halves and three regular halves and all seemed to work great. Definitely not strong enough to be an opener or closer but certainly a good middle routine. Not sure I'll ever use it because I'm so in love with Flux (which also has heads/tails capability) and I have a super strong routine with it. That said, this is certainly a quality product at a great price point.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Feb 22, 2019 10:46AM)
Hi emyers99 I also use Sixth Sense 3 (predecessor to Flux) and before 2.5 for many years. Still do use it often with a different routine. I have found I am getting a stronger reaction on the heads and tails feature with the routine I put together for the casket than with just the coin alone in the hand. Not sure why to be honest, part I guess it is the premise I am using and the perceived impossibility when adding additional layers to shield the coin.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 22, 2019 11:38AM)
I did the Talbot routine for a few friends who came by and with the business cards in place the effect worked just like it should and floored them.
I found 4 business cards work the best.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Feb 22, 2019 01:59PM)
For my little briefcase, I added an extra layer of black velvet to the inside bottom by purchasing some self-adhesive black velvet from Amazon and cutting a piece to shape (including rounding the corners). Then I added a little square of black velvet to the underside of the clear plastic snap case (adding the square to the area that is sort of recessed on the bottom). Those two additions keep the clear plastic snap case firmly anchored inside the little briefcase.

My Coin Light from SEO is being delivered today or tomorrow and I look forward to adding that to the routine. Now I'll be rooting for the last step of the routine to end with the spectator placing the coin tails up. :)

Mark
Message: Posted by: Rory111 (Feb 23, 2019 11:22AM)
Just ordered... :)
Message: Posted by: aligator (Feb 23, 2019 12:02PM)
You will be pleased with this order Rory. Without a doubt, one of the best releases of 2018 and so many possible presentations whether you prefer to present as mentalism , magic, or something inbetween.
Message: Posted by: Craigers (Feb 23, 2019 12:57PM)
I'm tempted to get this based on all the positives, but just like the multitude of "which hand" routines, I'm really struggling to understand how a piece of magic/mentalism that is based on a 50/50 outcome can play so strong. Can someone please help to push me over the line here ?
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Feb 23, 2019 01:34PM)
[quote]On Feb 23, 2019, Craigers wrote:
I'm tempted to get this based on all the positives, but just like the multitude of "which hand" routines, I'm really struggling to understand how a piece of magic/mentalism that is based on a 50/50 outcome can play so strong. Can someone please help to push me over the line here ? [/quote]
In my opinion...

We have all played heads or tails when we were young and when we hit the correct way, it seemed lucky.
So...
Once, is luck.
Twice, is it luck?
Third time, fourth, maybe fifth time, if you desire...removes the luck aspect and seems more impossible each hit.

Combined with a which hand, it is fun to do and people have fun with you.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Feb 23, 2019 02:40PM)
Read through the entire thread Craigers and see all the presentational ideas that have been suggested.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 24, 2019 04:29AM)
The following routines are free to owners of the Brass Coin Casket:

Updated Handling Sheet
Martini Haunted Casket
No Matter Which Hand by Marion

The John Talbot Routine is now only available for purchase.

You can receive these via email simply by writing us at madjakejr@airshipmagic.com
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Feb 24, 2019 09:53AM)
I finally received my coin light and performed John's routine for friends last night. They were blown away! The coin light kicker actually made them laugh out loud. A great/fun way to end the routine (if it works out that way).

Thanks, John.

Mark
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Feb 24, 2019 01:17PM)
Great to hear Mark, thanks! I love that kicker ending as well :)
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Feb 24, 2019 02:07PM)
Thank you for the PDFs Jake. Much appreciated.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 24, 2019 02:19PM)
John,
can't wait to see your routine for the new MW effect. 4 pages, WOW.

Wravyn, you're very welcome.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Feb 24, 2019 04:33PM)
Thank you for the pdf's as well. Any news on how Red Devil is doing with his book?
Message: Posted by: egoli (Feb 24, 2019 04:35PM)
My pdfs never arrived - usually they are sent right away

Ed
Message: Posted by: mtstic44 (Feb 24, 2019 04:54PM)
Thank you Mad Jake for my pdf. Allen
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 24, 2019 05:10PM)
[quote]On Feb 24, 2019, egoli wrote:
My pdfs never arrived - usually they are sent right away

Ed [/quote]

Ed, send another email to madjakejr@airshipmagic.com and I'll resend to you.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 24, 2019 05:13PM)
[quote]On Feb 23, 2019, Craigers wrote:
I'm tempted to get this based on all the positives, but just like the multitude of "which hand" routines, I'm really struggling to understand how a piece of magic/mentalism that is based on a 50/50 outcome can play so strong. Can someone please help to push me over the line here ? [/quote]

It's not up to the prop, it's up to the performer. I get great reactions when I do it by itself and John Talbot's Press The Flesh.
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Feb 24, 2019 05:19PM)
Craigers it must be you as most people can justify paying £100,s and £100,s of pounds for electronic which hands. This is a steal imo and the performance is everything I agree with Jake totally. Olly 🙂
Message: Posted by: egoli (Feb 24, 2019 05:25PM)
[quote]On Feb 24, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
[quote]On Feb 24, 2019, egoli wrote:
My pdfs never arrived - usually they are sent right away

Ed [/quote]

Ed, send another email to madjakejr@airshipmagic.com and I'll resend to you. [/quote]

Resent - many thanks in advance
Message: Posted by: John C (Feb 25, 2019 08:05AM)
[quote]On Feb 24, 2019, Oil&Water wrote:
Craigers it must be you as most people can justify paying £100,s and £100,s of pounds for electronic which hands. This is a steal imo and the performance is everything I agree with Jake totally. Olly 🙂 [/quote]

HEY! Don't leave me out, I've paid way more than that!
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Feb 25, 2019 09:07AM)
Yes many of us have fallen into the "Why spend $30 when spending $300 will do the job just as well" trap... ;0
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Feb 25, 2019 01:10PM)
Ha ha I canít talk either as I still bought Flux as well at Blackpool lol. Olly
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Feb 25, 2019 06:26PM)
I ordered a ProMystic Flux and it shipped today. I intend to do a which hand routine in conjunction with Coin Casket and John's Press the Flesh. I ordered a Johnson Magic Product mag half to use with Flux. I'm hopeful that I can just use the mag half in Coin Casket and then switch to using just the coin only with Flux. However, I'm doubtful that a mag half will work properly in the Coin Casket because I suspect a mag half, being a modified coin, won't be exactly the same size. We'll see.

Mark
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Feb 25, 2019 08:16PM)
Let us know Mark if it works, the Kries magnetic half does not work.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Feb 25, 2019 08:20PM)
[quote]On Feb 25, 2019, J M Talbot wrote:
Let us know Mark if it works, the Kries magnetic half does not work. [/quote]

Will do, John. My Johnson mag half should be here on Wednesday.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Rory111 (Feb 27, 2019 11:00PM)
Wow... This is nice! Truly one of the best magic purchases I've made in a long time... Well made, quality prop (Also worked great with my '64 Kennedy Half Dollar), prompt delivery and world-class customer service, too...... I really feel like I got more than my monies worth with this purchase!

Thank you Jake... and all of you that posted the information I needed to make the decision to purchase :). So many great ideas being shared...many thanks!

All the Best,
Rory
Message: Posted by: TheBentos (Feb 28, 2019 12:26AM)
Iíve gone through all my magnetic halves, and am pleased to say that Mark Masonís ones all work.
The best is the one from double deception.
Message: Posted by: robvh (Feb 28, 2019 11:26AM)
So does this replace Flux? Or does it complement Flux in a way that makes sense?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 28, 2019 01:39PM)
[quote]On Feb 28, 2019, robvh wrote:
So does this replace Flux? Or does it complement Flux in a way that makes sense? [/quote]

This doesn't replace Flux, how it could compliment Flux would be up to the performer. My Brother Frederick who is a data miner of history was able to trace it back to
the 1930's in Europe. It's been made a few times over the years, but most failed as it has unforgiving tolerances. It will work with certain magnetic coins, but I can't
promise it to fit any one brand.

In this version there are no peeks, magnets and no electronics. The effect is instant reset while still in the spectators hands. It doesn't weigh a lot, so you can carry
it every where you go.

There are pages in this thread of ideas of how to use this further then we had intentions of. There is a routine by John Talbot that we purchased the rights from
for a routine called "Press the Flesh" that is a 3 phase divination.

-Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Feb 28, 2019 05:56PM)
I'm disappointed to report that my Johnson mag half dollar *almost* works with Coin Casket.

Well, it DOES work if used only with Coin Casket and/or the clear snap case. Except, the how to is reversed. But put everything inside the little briefcase and the how to doesn't work at all. I'm at a loss to explain why because the little briefcase is aluminum.

Bummer!

Mark
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Feb 28, 2019 06:43PM)
[quote]On Feb 28, 2019, Magic Mark wrote:
I'm disappointed to report that my Johnson mag half dollar *almost* works with Coin Casket.
Mark [/quote]

Mark, sorry to hear this. The tolerances on mag coins is different. Did you try putting some business cards
in the small pocket inside the briefcase?

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: RedDevil (Feb 28, 2019 09:04PM)
Well, I hate to say this, but I must report that I may be indefinitely delayed on any manuscript on uses of the coin casket. Within a short time of taking on the project (and I had asked for it because I was excited to do it and LOVE this prop), I had a bit of a life crisis happen. In reality, it's more like Phase 3 of a life crisis that I have been experiencing for the last year. And there appears to be no end in sight.

Because of this, I have not been able to focus on magic or mentalism at all. I apologize to anyone I may have disappointed. If you have read my other books, you know I love writing mentalism ebooks and pour my hearts into them. I have always prided my self on customer service, and most people here that know me know that I keep my word. So I feel terrible. Again, I apologize.
Message: Posted by: John C (Feb 28, 2019 09:56PM)
[quote]On Feb 28, 2019, RedDevil wrote:
Well, I hate to say this, but I must report that I may be indefinitely delayed on any manuscript on uses of the coin casket. Within a short time of taking on the project (and I had asked for it because I was excited to do it and LOVE this prop), I had a bit of a life crisis happen. In reality, it's more like Phase 3 of a life crisis that I have been experiencing for the last year. And there appears to be no end in sight.

Because of this, I have not been able to focus on magic or mentalism at all. I apologize to anyone I may have disappointed. If you have read my other books, you know I love writing mentalism ebooks and pour my hearts into them. I have always prided my self on customer service, and most people here that know me know that I keep my word. So I feel terrible. Again, I apologize. [/quote]

Take care of your family, yourself, your health or any crisis otherwise first. A Magic pdf is an inconsequential blip within those challenges.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (Mar 1, 2019 02:25AM)
[quote]On Feb 28, 2019, RedDevil wrote:
Well, I hate to say this, but I must report that I may be indefinitely delayed on any manuscript on uses of the coin casket. Within a short time of taking on the project (and I had asked for it because I was excited to do it and LOVE this prop), I had a bit of a life crisis happen. In reality, it's more like Phase 3 of a life crisis that I have been experiencing for the last year. And there appears to be no end in sight.

Because of this, I have not been able to focus on magic or mentalism at all. I apologize to anyone I may have disappointed. If you have read my other books, you know I love writing mentalism ebooks and pour my hearts into them. I have always prided my self on customer service, and most people here that know me know that I keep my word. So I feel terrible. Again, I apologize. [/quote]

Take care. The thoughts and good wishes of many are with you.

Neil
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Mar 1, 2019 09:43AM)
Ditto the last two posts. Olly
Message: Posted by: videoman (Mar 1, 2019 10:12AM)
Don't stress over it RedDevil, you have to prioritize what's most important.
Wishing you good thoughts and energy.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Mar 1, 2019 11:47AM)
My brother and I are very sorry to hear this RedDevil. Take care of yourself first. You are
in our prayers.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Mar 1, 2019 12:35PM)
[quote]On Feb 25, 2019, Magic Mark wrote:
I ordered a ProMystic Flux and it shipped today. I intend to do a which hand routine in conjunction with Coin Casket and John's Press the Flesh. I ordered a Johnson Magic Product mag half to use with Flux. I'm hopeful that I can just use the mag half in Coin Casket and then switch to using just the coin only with Flux. However, I'm doubtful that a mag half will work properly in the Coin Casket because I suspect a mag half, being a modified coin, won't be exactly the same size. We'll see.

Mark [/quote]

Great minds think alike! :D I wanted to do the same thing. Bummed that your Johnson half did not work.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 1, 2019 01:37PM)
RedDevil, our thoughts are with you and we have no doubt you would have delivered a great write up. I sincerely hope things improve and you can focus on the fun things again. Take care,

John
Message: Posted by: magicmind (Mar 1, 2019 02:17PM)
Tried placing an order via phone/safari. Failed at handshake from paypal back to his site. Tried again on PC using chrome with same results.
Via chat Mad Jake quickly reported to his tech and emailed me a paypal invoice. Customer service!! Wow, he DOES want my money. HA. Thanks again Mad Jake!
Message: Posted by: aligator (Mar 1, 2019 03:49PM)
Sorry to hear Red Devil. As others have said, take care of yourself first. Hopefully, we will see you here again soon.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Mar 2, 2019 08:27AM)
Red Devil, day at a time. Thoughts and prayers go with you during this phase.
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Mar 6, 2019 09:36AM)
I have tons of fun with this prop/effect. Easy to carry, no setup. If you donít have one yet...whatís wrong with you!?? Hahahaha.

Steve
Message: Posted by: aligator (Mar 6, 2019 10:10AM)
I agree....and so many different presentational possibilities as well.
Message: Posted by: scott0819 (Mar 6, 2019 11:34AM)
This looks very clever but Iím curious how you justify such a strange looking, one coin holder/casket? How does this not come off as a puzzle?
When the spectator asks you to divine heads/tails without putting the coin in the little brass thing (or without touching it), what do you say?

Genuinely looking for justification because this appears ingenious AF.
Message: Posted by: Oil&Water (Mar 6, 2019 11:48AM)
They donít if your presentation skills are there, if you present it as a puzzle you are presenting it wrong imo.
Itís like producing a spectators signed card from your wallet, how many times have you heard your spectator say I bet you couldnít produce it from mine?
The answer is they never do and never ever will and not with this prop either. Olly
Message: Posted by: Mb217 (Mar 6, 2019 12:23PM)
I agree with Olly here, I don't think you have to "justify" anything, just like you don't have to justify an Okito Coin Box, or something like that. :) Specs won't ask you that question, not if you present the trick the right ways. :)

Plus, the Coin Casket comes with a few ways to magically present the effect, and I'm sure there are many other ways out there as well. :) But you're right about one thing Scott, it is quite "ingenious!" ;)
Message: Posted by: scott0819 (Mar 6, 2019 12:54PM)
Haha, Okito boxes are weird too! I like them and they get a pass from me because it is usually obvious there is so much more sleight of hand at play in a routine like that.

I guess Iím asking what are the magical ways this can be presented? The only apparent purpose of the casket seems to be to shield the coin from view Ė which can be done in so many other ways! Maybe I need to see this performed to understand.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 6, 2019 01:41PM)
Hi Scott:

My "Press the Flesh" routine is serving me well and the premise helps with the "why". Browsers's is also selling this and Jeff H. has a nice presentation he is using for it. Might be worth checking out.

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Mar 6, 2019 03:02PM)
There is nothing weird about Okito boxes. According to research, an Okito box was an old "Pill Box". I remember my father used to engrave the lids with people's names ie. "John Does Pills"
When I take out my Okito box I dump out some a few Aspirins and produce coins one by one and then onto my routine.

I don't believe in "Justifying" any of my props. How do you justify a hot rod, chop cup, cups & balls etc. Simple, you don't. Same goes with the coin casket.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Mar 6, 2019 03:05PM)
[quote]On Mar 6, 2019, scott0819 wrote:
This looks very clever but Iím curious how you justify such a strange looking, one coin holder/casket? How does this not come off as a puzzle?
When the spectator asks you to divine heads/tails without putting the coin in the little brass thing (or without touching it), what do you say?

Genuinely looking for justification because this appears ingenious AF. [/quote]

There is a section on the routine sheet called "Short Changed". It explains how to get out of the exact situation.
Message: Posted by: scott0819 (Mar 6, 2019 04:53PM)
Thanks, Olly, Mb, John and Jake. Much appreciate the responses.

Scott
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Mar 6, 2019 06:33PM)
Scott, in my routine with it, the coin was my friends lucky coin and it was the box he carried it in.
Message: Posted by: scott0819 (Mar 6, 2019 10:45PM)
[quote]On Mar 6, 2019, Wravyn wrote:
Scott, in my routine with it, the coin was my friends lucky coin and it was the box he carried it in. [/quote]

Thatís good. Just the kind of thing I was getting at with my original question.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 8, 2019 11:53AM)
My good friend and wood artisan Eric Hansen has crafted some beautiful nesting wooden boxes as an alternative for my Press the Flesh routine. Jake may have a few sets available in the near future.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/K5sDW5l.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Mar 8, 2019 12:41PM)
John and Jake,

Interested in John's routine. I know that one can just purchase the routine (I already have the Casket), but do I need any other items in order to fully present the routine - and if so, can I purchase those without purchasing another Brass Casket?

Also, what is the "coin light" to which Mark is referring? Did I miss that in this thread?

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 8, 2019 12:56PM)
Hi rosariorose9:

Yes Jake sells the extra items needed separately as well. I refer to the Coin Light in the routine and it is available separately from SEO magic. Hope that helps.

John
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Mar 8, 2019 01:08PM)
Hi rosariorose9,
There are 3 things you need to add to the Casket, the mini Briefcase, Clear container and the Press The Flesh routine.
All are sold separately on our website on the front page.

Thanks for asking.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Mar 8, 2019 01:15PM)
Thanks, John. I assume that all I will need to order from Jake are the briefcase and the clear plastic coin case. Am I correct?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Mar 8, 2019 01:36PM)
[quote]On Mar 8, 2019, rosariorose9 wrote:
Thanks, John. I assume that all I will need to order from Jake are the briefcase and the clear plastic coin case. Am I correct? [/quote]

That is correct.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Mar 8, 2019 02:00PM)
Thanks, Jake. Ordered!
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Mar 8, 2019 03:16PM)
[quote]On Mar 8, 2019, rosariorose9 wrote:
Thanks, Jake. Ordered! [/quote]

Thank you for the order, it's packed and shipped.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Mar 8, 2019 03:47PM)
No question about it - BEST customer service in magic!
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Mar 13, 2019 01:06PM)
I was fortunate to grab one of these recently and all I can say is WOW!

First, the brass casket itself is beautifully made and very precise. Much more precise than the old one Iíve had for the last 3 decades. Maybe my old one was meant to be used differently... In any case, Jake Jrís casket can be used with a blindfold (and earplugs) which was impossible with my old model. Also, the base of Jake Jrís model has a recess so it is obviously the base, which was not the case with my old model, and of course it is important for this effect that the spectator distinguishes easily the base from the lid. In brief, the casket itself is perfect and I cannot see how it could be better or easier to ďreadĒ.

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/5N6XLHxy/Brass-Casket-1.jpg[/img]

Iím glad that this astonishing accomplishment comes from Jake Jr. who is one of the nicest guys on the Cafť and one of the easiest person to deal with (weíve made business a few times over the years...).

But the main reason Iíve decided to order this one remains the great routine John Talbot came with. What can I say... John has a knack to transform simple ďaccessoriesĒ into powerful and entertaining magical moments. Multiple examples come to me, but I would say that John did with the brass casket exactly what he did with Magic Wagonís Mini Diceolation last year: he transformed a nice prop into a very commercial and entertaining multi-phases performance. By the way, these two (ďPress the FleshĒ and ďMini DiceolationĒ) share identical strengths and would combine perfectly IMHO...

When John showed me his PDF, I immediately knew that I would need to get one of these caskets... and plastic box... and mini suitcase... and flashlight ... and billet box...and eventually one of these beautiful wooden box sets made by Eric Hansen. I am all set, now! :)

So Jake Jr, Frederik, John, EricÖ thank you so much for your astonishing team work! Magic is even more enjoyable today than it was yesterday, thanks to you guys!

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/fTpJKwLK/Brass-Casket-2.jpg[/img]

Simon :)
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Mar 13, 2019 01:23PM)
I performed Johnís routine for a group of magicians at Dennyís (get together after I.B.M. Ring meeting) on Monday night. They loved it, particularly the magi I picked as my victim. He was flabbergasted that he couldnít figure it out.

I hope it generated more sales for Airship Magic!

Mark
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Mar 13, 2019 03:54PM)
Hi Simon... thanks for your kind comments on my routine! Mark am glad it is still playing well for you!

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Mar 14, 2019 11:25AM)
Very nice Simon. I reached out to Eric, but haven't heard back yet. He may be away.
Message: Posted by: FlightRisk (Apr 16, 2019 08:00PM)
So glad I saw this. Order on the way! Didn't think this would ever be made again, well at least before I went to lie in my own casket ;) One question though, is this custom made for the coin? IOW, if you get the kennedy, could you later use the same box with a Walker. Not sure the coins would have the same profile.
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (Apr 16, 2019 08:19PM)
[quote]On Apr 16, 2019, FlightRisk wrote:
So glad I saw this. Order on the way! Didn't think this would ever be made again, well at least before I went to lie in my own casket ;) One question though, is this custom made for the coin? IOW, if you get the kennedy, could you later use the same box with a Walker. Not sure the coins would have the same profile. [/quote]

Itís custom made for the coin. The Walkers have an even more specific tolerance than the Kennedys, so donít expect to use a Kennedy box with a Walker, or even one Walker box with another Walker coin.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Apr 16, 2019 09:49PM)
Actually it's the reverse. The coins are made for the box. Each and every box has the same tolerances +/- 0001. None of the boxes ever change,
just the coin tolerances.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Apr 20, 2019 02:29PM)
On the site I just noted in the pull down menu for the coin selection it says "Regular Kennedy". The "Regular Kennedy" is a 40% Silver Kennedy, not a regular clad Kennedy.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Apr 20, 2019 05:29PM)
Just wondering if anyone has heard from RedDevil... with the post of having other important things to deal with, just wanting to know how RedDevil is doing and sending good thoughts.
Message: Posted by: RedDevil (Apr 20, 2019 06:45PM)
Hello! Thank you so much for thinking of me. That means a great deal. I am doing okay. Maybe one of these days I will be able to talk about it. The Good Lord is taking care of me though and things are looking up.
Message: Posted by: FlightRisk (Apr 20, 2019 08:33PM)
I love that you can use 3 different methods to really make this an impossible divination. "Wait, you had to take it from me".. "oh, well, see, you still had to touch it!" Then after you have them just put it on the table, "ok, I give up. ;)
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Apr 21, 2019 07:41AM)
My brother is running a special on the web store, 25% off everything on the site until Midnight tonight. A Spring , Easter special.

I hope I don't upset anyone with what I'm about to type, but, God Bless you all on this special day.

Blessings,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Apr 21, 2019 07:42AM)
[quote]On Apr 20, 2019, RedDevil wrote:
Hello! Thank you so much for thinking of me. That means a great deal. I am doing okay. Maybe one of these days I will be able to talk about it. The Good Lord is taking care of me though and things are looking up. [/quote]

RedDevil, keep the faith and keep praying. The Lord will help you through this. If there is anything you might need we're all here for you.

Blessings,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Apr 21, 2019 05:44PM)
[quote]On Apr 21, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
...I hope I don't upset anyone with what I'm about to type, but, God Bless you all on this special day.
Blessings,
Jake Jr. [/quote]

Heaven help us, Jake, if it has come to the point where people are offended by being offered that blessing...
Message: Posted by: FlightRisk (Apr 22, 2019 10:21AM)
Bicentennial halves seem to work well also.
Message: Posted by: FlightRisk (Apr 22, 2019 02:04PM)
Has anyone found that the "hands free" method of divination is dependent on which side of the box you can see? I have a maybe 30% chance that I won't be able to tell coin orientation correctly because from one angle it will always look tails up.

Also, do all of them have a vacuum seal? If you place the lid on and let it go, is slowly falls in position as it expels the air inside it. Takes a half a second to a second to settle.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Apr 22, 2019 03:13PM)
[quote]On Apr 22, 2019, FlightRisk wrote:
Has anyone found that the "hands free" method of divination is dependent on which side of the box you can see? I have a maybe 30% chance that I won't be able to tell coin orientation correctly because from one angle it will always look tails up.

Also, do all of them have a vacuum seal? If you place the lid on and let it go, is slowly falls in position as it expels the air inside it. Takes a half a second to a second to settle. [/quote]

I'm looking into this now. I'm taking a few boxes from each run and testing them. Did you get the version of the 40% Silver Kennedy half with it?

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: FlightRisk (Apr 22, 2019 08:00PM)
I did get the 40% Kennedy (1967). I tried a few coins. The vacuum issue really doesn't bother me, I was just curious. It actually keeps the lid from clanking when you put it on. It's like a little shock absorber :) In any case, I can't see how it would interfere with anything. I am more concerned with how the top is supposed to sit so I know if that is normal or if I should get a fixed version. Thanks for all the help.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Apr 22, 2019 08:09PM)
Is anyone else having issues with the latches on the black mini briefcase for John's Press The Flesh routine?

NOTE: I purchased the little black briefcase directly from Amazon, not from Airship.

The right-hand latch on my little briefcase stopped working correctly after about 2 dozen performances. It is nearly impossible to get it to latch and then, after latching (lots of fiddling) it is difficult to open again. I figured it just broke and I ordered another mini briefcase from Amazon. It arrived today and, right of the package, the replacement's left-hand latch is having the same issue. In both cases, I believe the little spring that's in there has become dislodged or broken.

If I'm already 2 out of 2 with problems on this, surely others are experiencing it????

Amazon is refunding my money for the second mini briefcase. I chose to NOT get a replacement. I need to come up with a different outer container, I guess.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Apr 22, 2019 09:08PM)
Mark,
we deal directly with the manufacturer on ours. For an extra 118.00 a supervisor oversees all quality control. So far out of 100 boxes in the first case we opened, not a one has given us
a problem nor have we had any returned or reported to us with these issues. I'm still using the sample from China and it hasn't failed me at all.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Apr 22, 2019 10:37PM)
I guess I should have ordered one from Airship during the Easter sale. The shipping is a killer at the standard price.

:(

Mark
Message: Posted by: miltos (Apr 23, 2019 08:45AM)
So tempted by the times this came out,but the shipping is a reason not to buy it!
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Apr 23, 2019 08:50AM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, miltos wrote:
So tempted by the times this came out,but the shipping is a reason not to buy it! [/quote]

If you think 5.95 is too much, then your right it's not for you. We run a business, pay employees and shipping supplies.
I guess you don't buy from Steven's Magic or Hocus-Locus or other vendors.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Apr 23, 2019 10:11PM)
Now after having some time to think about it, here is how I should have approached.

We made every effort to offer something of great quality at a fair price. Shipping is expensive these days and rather than raise the price of the coin coffin, we charge a standard fee for shipping and handling to cover the expenses involved in running a company. We're no good to you if we are out of business!
We only charge a flat rate for both Domestic and International, any overage we cover and we don't mind.

I was just taken aback at the statement of shipping is a Reason not to buy it. I think I misunderstood his/her actual intention.

Kindest Regards,
-MJJ
Message: Posted by: FlightRisk (Apr 24, 2019 10:02AM)
However you look at it, it is a good value with excellent support. I appreciate that you keep working on routines and testing coins, replacing things quickly on the rare occasion where something isn't 100%. Thanks Jake. I'm testing out a new routine and going to be submitting it for everyone to have with the coin casket. It will take into account the 3 possible outcomes and have a surprise for anyone who steals the coin instead of putting it in the box ;)
Message: Posted by: Inert (Apr 25, 2019 08:45AM)
I'm absolutely, completely blown away that some people think $5.95 shipping is unreasonable. Seriously? I've never met or dealt with Jake or his company, but he sure seems like a just, accommodating & a helluva good bloke by his postings. All comments & reviews from fellow members that I chat with, are unanimous in praise of their dealings with the man.
Message: Posted by: John C (Apr 25, 2019 08:47AM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
Now after having some time to think about it, here is how I should have approached.

We made every effort to offer something of great quality at a fair price. Shipping is expensive these days and rather than raise the price of the coin coffin, we charge a standard fee for shipping and handling to cover the expenses involved in running a company. We're no good to you if we are out of business!
We only charge a flat rate for both Domestic and International, any overage we cover and we don't mind.

I was just taken aback at the statement of shipping is a Reason not to buy it. I think I misunderstood his/her actual intention.

Kindest Regards,
-MJJ [/quote]

Sorry, I think you answered it correctly the first time. Never apologize for running your business to make a profit and not to lose money.
Message: Posted by: Jack Straw (Apr 25, 2019 02:10PM)
Raise the price by $5, Jake, and charge $2 for shipping.

Now shipping is a bargain!

Problem solved.
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Apr 25, 2019 02:52PM)
Hi Jake, you owe no one an apology for running a business and making a profit, magic or otherwise. A fair price is all anyone should expect and that is what you have. I would say to all who have a gripe, spend thousands of dollars for the equipment, skill for turning, money for supplies, time to manufacture, test, package and ship the product all over the world. This doesn't include licenses, paying taxes and insurance. Why not get a paying gig and you have the shipping covered. Whew!!!

Best

Steve
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Apr 26, 2019 02:03PM)
Thank you for your understanding. I just felt an apology was due, based on my tone of the message. I just took it the wrong way.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Apr 26, 2019 06:18PM)
I ended up ordering a mini briefcase from Airship Magic and it arrived today. WOW, the difference in quality compared to the ones I purchased from Amazon is actually kind of amazing.

Amazon sourced one: Long piece inside briefcase right behind the handle and latches is made of plastic. The springs on the buttons (to open the latches) are weak and feel flimsy.

Airship Magic sourced one: That long piece inside behind the handle/latches is made of metal. The springs on the buttons are super strong by comparison. It actually takes a little bit of effort to unlatch the latches. The springs on the latches themselves are also stronger.

Live and learn, I should have ordered it from Airship Magic in the first place.

Thank you, Jake Jr!

Mark
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Apr 29, 2019 08:30AM)
Mark,
You're very welcome. We're glad you are pleased with the briefcases we sell.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Ravenspur (May 3, 2019 01:19PM)
Just received mine. Customer service was top notch.

I didn't see any directions for it in the package, however.

If someone can PM directions, I'd appreciate it. (I have reached out to Wravyn who recommended it and to Airship, I'm just impatient. I have an Assembly meeting tonight, and I'd like to show it off).
Message: Posted by: Ravenspur (May 3, 2019 01:33PM)
Nevermind, I found the directions. You know how magician's envelopes can be!
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (May 3, 2019 07:04PM)
[quote]On May 3, 2019, Ravenspur wrote:
Nevermind, I found the directions. You know how magician's envelopes can be! [/quote]

I received your "Missed Chat" notifications and sent several routines to you via email. So now you will have a back up :)
Glad you found the original that was sent with it and sorry for the scare of missing instructions.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: bowers (May 3, 2019 08:32PM)
Now that is customer service.
Message: Posted by: solidoak (May 3, 2019 09:30PM)
Speaking of customer service, when I received mine it had a slight problem. I emailed Jake and wound up sending it back to him. He stayed in constant contact with me and sent a new one I received in the mail today, complete with the most beautiful coin(s) I've ever seen.

How I wish all magic creator/suppliers had this kind of integrity and desire to support their clients!

Thanks again Jake!
Rick
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (May 8, 2019 10:09AM)
I received a large amount of Silver coins, all 90% Silver. Out of all the coins a roll of BU (Brilliant Uncirculated) Ben Franklin Half dollars. They are also called Blazers or Brilliant White.
They are absolutely beautiful. 14 work perfectly with the Coin Casket.

https://airshipmagic.com/store/home/65-classic-brass-coin-prediction-casket.html#/4-coin_selection-ben_franklin_90_silver

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: solidoak (May 8, 2019 12:24PM)
I love that Franklin Half! It really is brilliant.

Rick
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jun 11, 2019 11:52PM)
We would like to say Thank You to everyone for their supporting words. I was surprised to get an email with a link to a review that was written up this past weekend.

http://straighttalkmagicreviews.com/?p=1631

Everyone and this thread made it fun to make them and to see all the chatter with the different ideas for using it.

Kindest Regards,
Jake & Frederick
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Jul 14, 2019 07:30PM)
I was thinking what happened to the quarter size version? Been waiting I still don't see one. The quarter size would be perfect for me. ;)
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Jul 16, 2019 11:03AM)
[quote]On Jan 23, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
Mark,

thank you for the purchase. We appreciate it.

As to the other sizes, I spoke with Jake and he said since he would be doing the 1/4 size Jim Zee Roth Set when he gets back, he would start the first run of 1/4 size Coin Caskets.
After the 1/4 box Jim Zee sets, he's going to make the $ size Jim Zee Roth Sets and will also do a run of Dollar Size Coin Caskets. What's nice too is the plastic cases and Briefcases
will accommodate both the 1/4 size and Dollar Size boxes.

On another note. People have been bringing to my and Jake's attention that there is someone selling the Brass Coin Casket on an auction site and were wondering if these were ours
or someone had copied them. These were made by Jake. Jake has a friend in PA. that is retired and lives on a meager fixed income, to help him out just before the release he sent
his friend a bunch of boxes so he could make some extra money. We appreciate everyone looking out for us, but the seller is legitimate and a very sweet gentleman. New customers
can get the caskets through him until he sells out. He doesn't have a lot of them, but he can use the money to supplement his income.

Update on the PDF I have been working on has stalled. I have come up with so many ideas only to find out they are already here in this thread already routined by other performers.
Some have been kind enough to let me include their routines in the e-book, but so far I only have a 1 1/2 pages, I'm totally stalled on this.

I'm not sure when Jake will be returning from overseas, but in the mean time please feel free to call on me for anything.

Sincerely Yours,
Frederick [/quote]

I found the post about making quarter size coin casket, is this still going to made. I emailed them and PM Mad Jake got no response. Any info or just a yes or no would be welcome. Hope to hear it is still going to happen.

Richard
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jul 17, 2019 12:54AM)
Richard,
than you for the post. The main function on the machine side of the business caters to Marine equipment, boat and ship parts. This is our busy time of year for this. We all live in small fishing towns and cater
to fishing charter boats, fishing trawlers etc. We do alternate between the magic and the marine parts the best we can.

Back to the quarter size. I have to make them for either the state quarters or the Washington quarters. Each is different. But they are still in the works.

As to messaging me, something is going on here on the Cafť. I had a message that showed up in my box but there was no notification I had messages. When I opened my inbox
there was a message there that was 2 weeks old, but had that days date stamp on it and it was marked Read. I hadn't been into my account for awhile and I checked with my brother
who has access to the account and he told me he had never had time to check. Very strange.

So everyone knows, yes the 1/4 size is still coming first in Washington type and it will be released at the same time as the Jim Zee Quarter Okito box sets.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Jul 17, 2019 06:49AM)
[quote]On Jul 17, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
....As to messaging me, something is going on here on the Cafť. I had a message that showed up in my box but there was no notification I had messages. When I opened my inbox
there was a message there that was 2 weeks old, but had that days date stamp on it and it was marked Read. I hadn't been into my account for awhile ....
Jake Jr. [/quote]


Just to say that I just bought this from the web site and Jake was super quick with a reply.

I have noticed that some of the messages that I am subscribed to send new post notification but sometimes don't. the same with the PM as well.

It seems to be an intermittent thing.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Jul 17, 2019 04:31PM)
Mad Jake

Thanks for the update on the quarter size caskets that's great news they are still in the works.

Ya the PM messaging is not reliable had many problems but seems the new playing cards info never stops. :huh:

Thanks again
Richard
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Jul 18, 2019 02:15AM)
[quote]On Jul 17, 2019, MrWizard wrote:

Ya the PM messaging is not reliable had many problems but seems the new playing cards info never stops. :huh:
[/quote]

:lol:

So true! new cards come all the time and so do the emails and the emails of new sponsor release emails... but that's what they pay for so it keeps the Cafť free (if not a place for truly free speech-again understandable I suppose).
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jul 18, 2019 10:54AM)
It just happened again this morning to me, but this time it showed new messages, but when I opened my Inbox, it was empty. I like the fact that the Cafť is putting out notices
on new cards. I'm a deck collector and it has helped me out from having to search KS for new decks. Since the Cafť is free, I can deal with messages, It's what helps keep the Cafť
open. Based on the the Cafť's size, it is not Cheap to run or maintain on the host servers.
-MJJ
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jul 18, 2019 11:03AM)
Personally I would gladly pay a monthly fee in order to have a much better user experience as well as keeping out the general public. Not to mention bringing it up to date.
But alas, I realize Iím in the minority. Most magicians would rather put that money towards another card trick.
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Jul 18, 2019 11:31AM)
[quote]On Jul 18, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:

I'm a deck collector and it has helped me out from having to search KS for new decks. Since the Cafť is free, I can deal with messages, It's what helps keep the Cafť
open. Based on the the Cafť's size, it is not Cheap to run or maintain on the host servers.
-MJJ [/quote]

Yes, I was joking about the card notifications - I don't really have a problem with them and have occasionally got a few and I just kinda like the irony of them working but other things not. It's like the occasional double post thing it does - it can have amusing consequences.

I said.....

It's like the occasional double post thing it does - it can have amusing consequencesv


It's like the occasional double post thing it does - it can have amusing consequences


It's like the occasional double post thing it does - it can have amusing consequences

I will keep doing this joke until you laugh!



[quote]On Jul 18, 2019, videoman wrote:
Personally I would gladly pay a monthly fee in order to have a much better user experience as well as keeping out the general public. Not to mention bringing it up to date.
But alas, I realize Iím in the minority. Most magicians would rather put that money towards another card trick. [/quote]

I think I would be willing to - the only thing is there are other platforms that offer the same thing and I am not sure that the Cafť would be able to compete?

It would be good if it was not as accessible as it is in some respects - but magic shops have never turned away those who are just curious and it would be the death of the Cafť if it did.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jul 22, 2019 12:56AM)
The final version of the US Quarter size is finished. I just need to order some brass stock for it and hope the weather stays cool. This version is for the George Washington Quarters.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jul 22, 2019 05:43AM)
[quote]On Jul 22, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
The final version of the US Quarter size is finished. I just need to order some brass stock for it and hope the weather stays cool. This version is for the George Washington Quarters.

-MJJ [/quote]

That's good to hear. Looking forward to ordering one once they are available.
Message: Posted by: ATXTimeLord (Jul 22, 2019 07:23AM)
[quote]On Jul 22, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
The final version of the US Quarter size is finished. I just need to order some brass stock for it and hope the weather stays cool. This version is for the George Washington Quarters.

-MJJ [/quote]

Please put me down for at least one...

mG
Message: Posted by: Magical Moments (Jul 22, 2019 09:27AM)
Not using the state quarters is an excellent idea IMHO. The standard good old regular back quarters is more practical and by using one of those, you avoid the spectator asking to see the back of the quarter to see which state it is and so on which is disruptive to your presentation and somewhat annoying.
Message: Posted by: Magical Moments (Jul 22, 2019 11:47AM)
I (and others I am sure) would like to see some demos of this including the extra routines mentioned here. Anyone?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jul 23, 2019 10:59PM)
[quote]On Jul 22, 2019, Magical Moments wrote:
I (and others I am sure) would like to see some demos of this including the extra routines mentioned here. Anyone? [/quote]

Joe Stevens does a demo of it on their website. We've associated ourselves with a group of older magicians called "Men With Toupees". One of these nice gentlemen, Jamie, has stepped up
and offered to be our demo man for most of our products. We have had an additional dedicated T3 internet connection installed in our one shop that will do live streaming and on demand streaming
using Apple's Quicktime server which supports all computer formats. Quicktime is capable of streaming 250 feeds at a time per server. Frederick is working on 4 new Apple computers setting up
Quicktime, so we'll be able to host 1000 live streams at a time.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jul 23, 2019 11:03PM)
The Quarter Coin Casket. I was going to post this in the Workshop, but the advice I need is from real users. The tolerances I mentioned earlier are done for Washington Quarters.

My question is, do I really need to change the OD of the Coin Casket? If some of you could give some guidance here I would appreciate it. You can post here or PM me. I'm hoping that
I can keep it the same size as the half version, just for quarters though. If I have to change the size it might throw me into an odd sized box and create a bunch of waste.

Thank you for any help.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Magical Moments (Jul 24, 2019 12:55PM)
I like the idea of keeping the box the same size. A smaller box will be more difficult to handle for both the spectator and the performer. That could result in dropping it and we do not want that to happen!

In addition, the attractive look of the brass casket would be compromised if it were smaller.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Jul 24, 2019 03:31PM)
[quote]On Jul 18, 2019, videoman wrote:
Personally I would gladly pay a monthly fee in order to have a much better user experience as well as keeping out the general public. Not to mention bringing it up to date.
But alas, I realize Iím in the minority. Most magicians would rather put that money towards another card trick. [/quote]

ABSOLUTELY!! We may be, as you say, in the minority, but I too would be more than happy to pay a monthly fee to keep the information on this forum out of the purview of the general public.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jul 25, 2019 04:57AM)
This is an old half dollar coin effect sold by Ken Brooke in London England back in the 1970's. He added a special quarter to the set. Later this came out in quarter size in America.

Some stole my set just for the 50 cent piece.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jul 25, 2019 07:01AM)
Bill, the effect dates back to the early to mid 30's somewhere in Europe, according to my brother who researched it. If you PM your address I'll send you one to replace your stolen one
and it even comes with a 40% Silver Kennedy.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jul 25, 2019 12:32PM)
[quote]On Jul 25, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
If you PM your address I'll send you one to replace your stolen one
and it even comes with a 40% Silver Kennedy.

Jake Jr. [/quote]

This speaks volumes of the quality of customer service provided by Airship Magic!
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jul 25, 2019 12:48PM)
[quote]On Jul 25, 2019, Wravyn wrote:
[quote]On Jul 25, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
If you PM your address I'll send you one to replace your stolen one
and it even comes with a 40% Silver Kennedy.

Jake Jr. [/quote]

This speaks volumes of the quality of customer service provided by Airship Magic! [/quote]

That's as amazing as anything they sell!!!
Jake Jr. and Frederick are first class human beings!
Message: Posted by: ATXTimeLord (Jul 30, 2019 07:10AM)
[quote]On Jul 23, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
The Quarter Coin Casket. I was going to post this in the Workshop, but the advice I need is from real users. The tolerances I mentioned earlier are done for Washington Quarters.

My question is, do I really need to change the OD of the Coin Casket? If some of you could give some guidance here I would appreciate it. You can post here or PM me. I'm hoping that
I can keep it the same size as the half version, just for quarters though. If I have to change the size it might throw me into an odd sized box and create a bunch of waste.

Thank you for any help.

-MJJ [/quote]

I thought about this for a minute, and I think the OD should be the same... Just spitballing here, but you could use it as a sucker plug for the end of the routine similar to cups and balls .. Where the half dollar couldn't have been in the casket .. it won't fit...

mG
Message: Posted by: bobinsdakota (Aug 1, 2019 07:31PM)
Hello folks, this is my first post on the forum (other than to introduce myself) and I just received my Brass Coin Casket.
It's so well made and wonderful to use. I'm a total newbie magician and tried it out on my granddaughter....she was amazed and it was really fun. I used my Quiver along with it revealing the correct prediction written on a piece of paper.
Thank you Jake for making a wonderful product, mine has paid for itself already with the fun I've had.
I would love to get any routines that others use with the Coin Casket.
Anyway, looking forward to getting to know the people on the forum.

Bob
Message: Posted by: RedDevil (Aug 2, 2019 06:38PM)
Sad, but humorous story:

Last year, I was so excited by the casket, I bought a second one as a shiny back-up just in case. (This has got to be one of my favorite purchases of the last decade, and I have probably spent more minutes thinking about this prop than anything in my magic life). Anyway, life got pretty rough for a while last winter, blah blah, and I discovered a month ago, I had lost my original. I tore my truck up and my house looking for it, but it was gone. And I was bummed. I had spent time with it making it look old and beat up, and it worked perfectly with all the little subtleties I had learned about it (I have catalogued several ways to use this thing and its properties).

Fast forward to last night.

I am in a hotel room on a work trip last night, and I look into the side pocket of my toiletries bag, and there it is! Eureka! So I drop everything and forget about dinner and before I know it, I have spent 30 minutes with it in the bathroom in front of the mirror trying a few presentations with it.

Then, it falls out of my hands and clangs all over the tile bathroom floor.

Well, I don't think anything of it. If it scratches a bit, it just looks older (which I wanted because my presentation is that it used to belong to my grandfather who used to sell old coins at flea markets, true story). So I pick it back up, replace the coin, and replace the lid. A few minutes later, I try to take the lid off and...it won't come off. At first I am puzzled and think I have made some kind of mistake. But no, it won't come off, and I have to twist the lid off to get it off, like a bottle cap. I looked all around it looking for a bend, but couldn't find it. But alas, I guess that is what I did. I bent it slightly.

So I went from utter victory to crying ironic tears in 30 minutes.

The moral, however, is that I would not drop this thing too often. It's metal, and it can bend I guess. Most likely, I will end up buying 2-3 more of these before they disappear. If I had the money, I would buy every one of them that they made and hoard them. :)
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Aug 2, 2019 11:43PM)
Sorry to hear this. If you want to return the box I can fix it for you. Most likely it hasn't bent any but you may have nicked the base where the lid fits onto. I made a special
puller that will pull the lid off without damaging it. Just PM me and we'll set up to fix it for you. There's no charge for this with the exception of the shipping it back to us.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Aug 3, 2019 07:06AM)
Wow! Great special care MJJ. All should take note, 'cause we sure don't see much of this kind of service anymore.

Kudos, Mad Jake Jr.!

Jim
Message: Posted by: RedDevil (Aug 3, 2019 09:32AM)
[quote]On Aug 3, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
Sorry to hear this. If you want to return the box I can fix it for you. Most likely it hasn't bent any but you may have nicked the base where the lid fits onto. I made a special
puller that will pull the lid off without damaging it. Just PM me and we'll set up to fix it for you. There's no charge for this with the exception of the shipping it back to us.

-MJJ [/quote]


Wonderful!!! Thank you very much. I will do just that. You guys are the best.

Red
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Aug 3, 2019 04:24PM)
Thank you Jim and Red. A business is nothing without customer service.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Aug 5, 2019 12:01AM)
Special 2019 Uncirculated Kennedy version. Limited to 24 pieces, each casket numbered inside.

https://airshipmagic.com/store/home/146-classic-brass-coin-prediction-casket.html

These were made specifically for the new 2019 Kennedy Half dollar. The Kennedy half is a new, uncirculated coin which
really looks nice against the brass.

$24.95

-Frederick
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Aug 13, 2019 04:09PM)
Well we try to help people the most we can. Earlier in this thread we gave a friend of our fathers some boxes to sell. It's since been found
that he is selling them at prices of 20.00 with free shipping and also removed copyrighted material from the routine sheets.

There are only 2 of us that resale, AirShip Magic, which belongs to my younger brother Frederick and Steven's Magic. These are the only
authorized dealers for these.

I even gave him some machine work to do for us so he would have some extra $ income. If I sound Jaded, we all feel the same way after
helloing someone.

The main purpose of this post is to inform customers of the 2 authorized resellers. They are the only 2 you can get the extra routines from
when you purchase from one of them.

Thank you to those who brought this to my attention.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: ATXTimeLord (Sep 4, 2019 03:48AM)
I was browsing the Airship Magic website and noticed that they have now listed the quarter equivalent of this effect.

Faster than you could say "Abracadabra", my money disappeared from my account and ordered two of them. They indicate they are shipping sometime in September. The link to the new offering is here: https://airshipmagic.com/store/home/144-brass-coin-casket-us-washingtoneagle-quarter-size.html

I am not an employee of Airship Magic, nor am I being compensated for this post. I just appreciate great craftsmanship (which is why I have 6 of the half-dollar size ones ..) and look forward to seeing these.

I do have one question, are the dimensions the same as the half-dollar version or would it be understandably smaller in size?

mG
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Sep 6, 2019 06:01AM)
I too pre ordered the Quarter size and was hoping it would be smaller to carry but it is the same size as the half dollar one. They say it will be before the end of sept before they will be sending it out. Right now they are preparing for the Dorian hurricane to get over with. Also it has been said the quarter size will not work with the Talbot routine in the briefcase which is too bad. I am positive it will work in the second phase in plastic case just fine. I would have ordered 2 or more of these quarter size but now will have to wait to see if it is as easy to get the tell. It appears it will not be if it won't work in the briefcase unless you are able to get the tell before it goes in the briefcase which is possible but not always. I believe if it was made smaller it would work but don't know until I get it. I wanted the quarter size because quarters are everywhere and you never see a half dollar in the wild in someones pocket. But I have 2 of the half dollar ones anyway works great with the Talbot routine Press The Flesh.

Richard
Message: Posted by: magicmind (Sep 6, 2019 10:47AM)
[quote]On Aug 13, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
Well we try to help people the most we can. Earlier in this thread we gave a friend of our fathers some boxes to sell. It's since been found
that he is selling them at prices of 20.00 with free shipping and also removed copyrighted material from the routine sheets.

There are only 2 of us that resale, AirShip Magic, which belongs to my younger brother Frederick and Steven's Magic. These are the only
authorized dealers for these.

I even gave him some machine work to do for us so he would have some extra $ income. If I sound Jaded, we all feel the same way after
helloing someone.

The main purpose of this post is to inform customers of the 2 authorized resellers. They are the only 2 you can get the extra routines from
when you purchase from one of them.

Thank you to those who brought this to my attention.

-MJJ [/quote]

I'll stick with buying direct and supporting the source. Steven's is my go to for unique items though.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Sep 11, 2019 03:11PM)
An update on the 1/4 size Divination Box. I never got any feedback after requesting some about changing the size of the box so I did downsize it a bit. But in doing so it made it incompatible with the John Talbot
Routine. I received PM's and emails asking if it could be make to work with the Talbot routine. The diameter of the box was not an issue as was the height of the box which wouldn't allow it to function properly
with the plastic case and suitcase. Even by adding some more business cards into the case, the new design would not work.

I'm almost done re-tweaking the box dimensions so it WILL work with the Talbot set up. The Hurricane has set us back a bit as well, but we are still shooting for September shipping.

I just wanted to update everyone who is still following this thread and those who pre-ordered.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Sep 11, 2019 03:21PM)
[quote]On Sep 11, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
An update on the 1/4 size Divination Box. I never got any feedback after requesting some about changing the size of the box so I did downsize it a bit. But in doing so it made it incompatible with the John Talbot
Routine. I received PM's and emails asking if it could be make to work with the Talbot routine. The diameter of the box was not an issue as was the height of the box which wouldn't allow it to function properly
with the plastic case and suitcase. Even by adding some more business cards into the case, the new design would not work.

I'm almost done re-tweaking the box dimensions so it WILL work with the Talbot set up. The Hurricane has set us back a bit as well, but we are still shooting for September shipping.

I just wanted to update everyone who is still following this thread and those who pre-ordered.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr. [/quote]

Jake that is fabulous news about the quarter size box being redone to work, and it is smaller which is what I wanted. My pre order has been in for while. I may want to get another one now I know it's been updated.

Thanks
Richard
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Sep 11, 2019 06:03PM)
Richard,
this is what is wonderful about the internet, being able to get instant feedback and analytical criticism and being able to address them.
This is really our first delay, but being flooded with emails with suggestions and requests that make sense, like making it compatible with
the Talbot Routine. I should have considered that myself in the. beginning, I kind of feel stupid that I didn't take it into consideration.

Once all the tolerances are set on the lathe, that is all that is run on the lathe until we have an inventory. I check calibration of the settings
after every 12 boxes I turn to ensure all the tolerances stay the same.

I do apologize for the delay again for all that prepaid, I think there are 5 that did. But the final product will be what everyone has requested
it to be. This is something that would take months if I wasn't making them.

Thank you again to all that support AirShip Magic. And thank you for your patience with this project.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 11, 2019 06:42PM)
Glad to hear it will work with the Talbot routine... heard that guy is a genius 😀

Will want to pick up one of those as well, of course still dreaming of a Canadian quarter version....

Cheers,

John
Message: Posted by: egoli (Sep 11, 2019 06:48PM)
[quote]On Sep 11, 2019, J M Talbot wrote:
of course still dreaming of a Canadian quarter version....

Cheers,

John [/quote]

You can add my vote for a Canadian quarter version!

Ed
Message: Posted by: egoli (Sep 11, 2019 06:48PM)
Or even a Canadian Loonie or Toonie
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Sep 11, 2019 07:15PM)
John,
if I sent you the $ could you purchase a roll of Canadian quarters for me? I picked up some circulated and they all varied
some worked some didn't. I need consistency, so I'm going to have to go with uncirculated.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 11, 2019 09:38PM)
PM'd you Jake
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Oct 9, 2019 03:54PM)
Looks like we missed the Sept shipping for the quarter box. :hmm:
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Oct 10, 2019 08:00AM)
[quote]On Oct 9, 2019, MrWizard wrote:
Looks like we missed the Sept shipping for the quarter box. :hmm: [/quote]

I'm sorry that I missed the hit date on this. I'm just getting into the shop. As soon as I replace a portion of my blood with Coffee I'll back to this thread
and address a few key issues. All of which are fixable.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Pastor Mickey (Oct 10, 2019 07:57PM)
Will this work with a Franklin Half or just the Kennedy?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Oct 11, 2019 09:57AM)
[quote]On Oct 10, 2019, Pastor Mickey wrote:
Will this work with a Franklin Half or just the Kennedy? [/quote]

This will work with a Franklin half.
Message: Posted by: Pastor Mickey (Oct 11, 2019 04:15PM)
Thank you Jake.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Oct 28, 2019 04:19PM)
Great News! The Coin Casket v2 is in production here now. Some times you over think things and stay stuck that the solution must be with just the one part that is suppose to do the job. Well this morning I cranked out some v2 Coin Caskets for the Washington Quarter version and it worked out fabulous.
A big thank you to those who ordered ahead and stood waiting patiently for my brain to engage. Not many people are willing to do that.
I have enough brass to get me started on 1 run (100) Caskets and more brass coming in on Friday. -MJJ

https://airshipmagic.com/store/home/144-brass-coin-casket-us-washingtoneagle-quarter-size.html
Message: Posted by: D_avid (Nov 2, 2019 12:33AM)
Got this yesterday and canít seem to stop playing with it! I love that you donít even have to touch it. One mere glance can tell you heads or tails! The fact that this thing even works the way it does is itself MAGIC! Jake, if there is a wood version, please let me know!
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 2, 2019 08:57PM)
[quote]On Nov 2, 2019, D_avid wrote:
Got this yesterday and canít seem to stop playing with it! I love that you donít even have to touch it. One mere glance can tell you heads or tails! The fact that this thing even works the way it does is itself MAGIC! Jake, if there is a wood version, please let me know! [/quote]

Thank you for the praise David. The Quarter version is selling just as well as the first one. I'll have to talk to my brother Frederick about a wooden version. That would definitely be a challenge
for him, which he likes. -MJJ
Message: Posted by: D_avid (Nov 2, 2019 08:59PM)
I am fond of nickel plating and we have a local plater here. Just wondering if that would throw off the sensitivity? This is something I will be using a lot and brass patina is not my #1 preference.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 3, 2019 12:05AM)
[quote]On Nov 2, 2019, D_avid wrote:
I am fond of nickel plating and we have a local plater here. Just wondering if that would throw off the sensitivity? This is something I will be using a lot and brass patina is not my #1 preference. [/quote]

I would advise against having it plated, since you own one I think you know why. Plus the contrast of the Silver coin and the brass is nice.
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Nov 3, 2019 11:59AM)
[quote]On Nov 3, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
[quote]On Nov 2, 2019, D_avid wrote:
I am fond of nickel plating and we have a local plater here. Just wondering if that would throw off the sensitivity? This is something I will be using a lot and brass patina is not my #1 preference. [/quote]

I would advise against having it plated, since you own one I think you know why. Plus the contrast of the Silver coin and the brass is nice. [/quote]

I'm sure you could make him a custom one-off though right Jake?

How thick is a typical nickel plating? I guess you could take double that amount off the insides? At his risk though.

I think your point about contrasting colours is a good one. I don't mind the colour.
Message: Posted by: D_avid (Nov 3, 2019 05:12PM)
I agree with the contrast and I completely understand why plating is ill advised. It's simply a personal preference. I would not hesitate to recommend this to others. Regardless if it's presented as a puzzle or magic trick, it's just beyond impressive how it works! I can not stop playing with it! I have my own prediction idea I'm working on. More to come on that!

Jake, this is the coolest thing I have seen in awhile. I can't wait to see what the future has in store!
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Nov 3, 2019 06:13PM)
[quote]On Nov 3, 2019, D_avid wrote:

Jake, this is the coolest thing I have seen in awhile. I can't wait to see what the future has in store! [/quote]

Did you get the press the flesh as well? it takes it to a whole other level!
Message: Posted by: D_avid (Nov 3, 2019 07:00PM)
No. Guess I need to look at that too!
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 4, 2019 11:32AM)
Instead of Chrome, how about mirror polished stainless steel?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 4, 2019 12:15PM)
[quote]On Nov 4, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
Instead of Chrome, how about mirror polished stainless steel? [/quote]

Now I would like to have one of them myself.
Todd
Message: Posted by: D_avid (Nov 4, 2019 12:22PM)
Polished Stainless Steel? Yes, please!
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 4, 2019 01:37PM)
When are plater plates things for us, it adds 40 microns of nickel and then 30 microns of Chromium. If you add the 70 microns to each part of the casket
you end up with 140 microns which won't allow the pieces to fit correctly or operate correctly. Getting into micron measurements for new boxes would just
be too expensive time wise.

Fast forward to Stainless Steel. A lot easier to do, but the material cost is a bit more. That's why I did a limited run of the Stainless Steel Ball & Tube.

I'll check on the cost of the stainless and let everyone know up front what the retail cost will be. I had quite a number of people request 1/4 size caskets.
Via email through our site, but when it came time, some either never replied back or said they were inquiring about it. "Put me down for 1" is not an inquiry
so I have to figure out how to handle it this time. I do know there will be NO 1/4 size boxes in stainless, only 1/2's.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Nov 4, 2019 03:53PM)
[quote]On Nov 4, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
When are plater plates things for us, it adds 40 microns of nickel and then 30 microns of Chromium. If you add the 70 microns to each part of the casket
you end up with 140 microns which won't allow the pieces to fit correctly or operate correctly. Getting into micron measurements for new boxes would just
be too expensive time wise.

-MJJ [/quote]

Yup, that makes sense....I forgot about the edges of the casket as well. You would need to take off the 70 microns from every surface. Even then that assumes that all the plating is going to be exactly 70 all round. I appreciate that plating is a science but I also know that science gives different results depending on the tolerances and at 70 microns - well it's a very small tolerance (I used to be a microbiologist so had to work with small stuff)


Just show off......I managed to work out that it was 70 microns on each surface and a total of 140. I can do 2X7=14 multiply by 10 = 140. Just bragging .... you know...



[quote]On Nov 4, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:

Fast forward to Stainless Steel. A lot easier to do, but the material cost is a bit more. That's why I did a limited run of the Stainless Steel Ball & Tube.

I'll check on the cost of the stainless and let everyone know upfront what the retail cost will be. I had quite a number of people request 1/4 size caskets.
Via email through our site, but when it came time, some either never replied back or said they were inquiring about it. "Put me down for 1" is not an inquiry
so I have to figure out how to handle it this time. I do know there will be NO 1/4 size boxes in stainless, only 1/2's.

-MJJ [/quote]


I may be interested ... if you let me know the cost and the time scale I will let you know if I am a definite or not. I won't be a maybe interested who would not go forward. I would be upfront with you.
Message: Posted by: mtstic44 (Nov 4, 2019 04:07PM)
I was just looking at your 1st post Mad Jake and it has been 1 yr today. Congrats on the success on the " Brass Coin Casket Prediction ".
Allen
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 4, 2019 04:10PM)
I contacted our plater and gave him the measurements. Each box would cost 40.00 to plate. In my opinion, it's just not worth it when I can make
them out of stainless steel and mirror polish them.

I have one from yesteryear that is made of aluminum, it just doesn't feel right in handling. I'll eventually make some out of stainless after the New Year.

We have other projects to move forward with, some magic some not.
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Nov 4, 2019 04:19PM)
[quote]On Nov 4, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
I contacted our plater and gave him the measurements. Each box would cost 40.00 to plate. In my opinion, it's just not worth it when I can make
them out of stainless steel and mirror polish them.

I have one from yesteryear that is made of aluminum, it just doesn't feel right in handling. I'll eventually make some out of stainless after the New Year.

We have other projects to move forward with, some magic some not. [/quote]


WOW $40 to place and you have to make a profit as well as covering costs in time etc. Stainless Steel, in my opinion, with mirror finish would be as good (if not better) ....and you would not have to be messing with getting them to the plater etc.

If its going to be after Christmas I may well be in for good. :)
Message: Posted by: D_avid (Nov 4, 2019 05:30PM)
I will absolutely be buying a stainless steel one should they be made! I have been playing with the discovery I shared with you and that is my new way to perform! I love that it's hands off and out of sight, and came up with an easy out if they decide not to put the coin in the casket at all!
Message: Posted by: D_avid (Nov 4, 2019 05:42PM)
Will most certainly share, but posting here might fall under exposure.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 4, 2019 07:16PM)
I would for sure be in for the stainless steel casket also.
And be willing to prepay for it.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 4, 2019 07:28PM)
[quote]On Nov 4, 2019, bowers wrote:
I would for sure be in for the stainless steel casket also.
And be willing to prepay for it.
Todd [/quote]

No need to prepay, thank you though. I see in some cases where I have prepaid for projects that you know the creator has a large expense and may need
help, but in most cases ours aren't like that.
Message: Posted by: ATXTimeLord (Nov 5, 2019 02:02AM)
Stainless Steel Coin Casket? Yes, please... I'll take 2 of them..

mG
Message: Posted by: D_avid (Nov 5, 2019 11:32AM)
I had a chance to show several people the coin casket, and had a young kid wanting me to figure out if it was heads or tales with the casket still in his fist. It works!
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Nov 10, 2019 11:51AM)
Quarter Size Coin Casket

Has anyone else received their Quarter Size Version Coin Casket Yet. What did you think about the coin you received? Can't remember when I anticipated something so much and have been more disappointed with what I opened. I absolutely love the Half dollar version but this quarter version is not the same at all. It works ok but The road taken to make it work took a bad detour. Those that have gotten theirs know what I am talking about. PM me with your thoughts if you don't want to say anything public as it would likely amount to a little exposer that's why I am not posting pictures of the quarter. I oh so wanted this to be what it was said it would be. A smaller box that fits the un-gimmicked quarter like the half dollars fits it's box. I still want one that is right as this certainly isn't usable IMHO. Again could not be more shocked and disappointed never expected this from AirShip. Some will likely just be quiet and cut their losses but I think before many more get shipped out they should look at this release with a new eye and realize this is not the answer to the inconsistent tolerance problem. :rolleyes:

Richard
Message: Posted by: Cleverpaws (Nov 10, 2019 12:06PM)
Mr wizard you should have contacted Jake first. Heís very responsive to customers queries.
I donít see why so many people decide to post a public criticism immediately rather than contacting the maker.
As a maker myself I do everything to the best of my ability and would hate for someone to post a poor comment on a public forum when I could do something to correct the issue first. I realize thatís what people do nowadays, but itís not the right thing to do. Contact the maker first allowing them to make it right.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Nov 10, 2019 01:02PM)
You clearly didn't buy one. :rolleyes:
Message: Posted by: Cleverpaws (Nov 10, 2019 01:12PM)
It does not matter if Iíve purchased the quarter version you should have contacted Jake first. Heís very responsive to customers queries.
I donít see why so many people decide to post a public criticism immediately rather than contacting the maker.
As a maker myself I do everything to the best of my ability and would hate for someone to post a poor comment on a public forum when I could do something to correct the issue first. I realize thatís what people do nowadays, but itís not the right thing to do. Contact the maker first allowing them to make it right.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Nov 10, 2019 01:37PM)
I asked for people that bought this to respond what they thought. Thanks for your criticism I understand what you are saying. It's my honest thoughts this is not the same by making the changes that were made. I also am a maker don't like bad reviews but do like an honest review.
Message: Posted by: mroek (Nov 10, 2019 05:51PM)
[quote]On Nov 10, 2019, MrWizard wrote:
Quarter Size Coin Casket

Has anyone else received their Quarter Size Version Coin Casket Yet. What did you think about the coin you received? Can't remember when I anticipated something so much and have been more disappointed with what I opened. I absolutely love the Half dollar version but this quarter version is not the same at all. It works ok but The road taken to make it work took a bad detour. Those that have gotten theirs know what I am talking about. PM me with your thoughts if you don't want to say anything public as it would likely amount to a little exposer that's why I am not posting pictures of the quarter. I oh so wanted this to be what it was said it would be. A smaller box that fits the un-gimmicked quarter like the half dollars fits it's box. I still want one that is right as this certainly isn't usable IMHO. Again could not be more shocked and disappointed never expected this from AirShip. Some will likely just be quiet and cut their losses but I think before many more get shipped out they should look at this release with a new eye and realize this is not the answer to the inconsistent tolerance problem. :rolleyes:

Richard [/quote]
So the quarter size box isn't actually made to fit a quarter? If so, that sounds pretty odd, and for sure would be a valid reason to be disappointed. The half dollar version has received massive praise, and as far as I know, uses an ungimmicked half dollar. Unless I am misunderstanding something, it sounds like the quarter size version uses a gimmicked coin (or else pictures would have been both fine and also unnecessary), which in my opinion somewhat negates the value of the trick. I don't live in the US, but I do know that quarters are much more common than half dollars, which is kind of why people really wanted the quarter size version in the first place. And if you can't use it with a borrowed coin, that certainly reduces the attractiveness of the trick, in my opinion.
Message: Posted by: D_avid (Nov 10, 2019 07:20PM)
[quote]On Nov 10, 2019, Cleverpaws wrote:
Mr wizard you should have contacted Jake first. Heís very responsive to customers queries.
I donít see why so many people decide to post a public criticism immediately rather than contacting the maker.
As a maker myself I do everything to the best of my ability and would hate for someone to post a poor comment on a public forum when I could do something to correct the issue first. I realize thatís what people do nowadays, but itís not the right thing to do. Contact the maker first allowing them to make it right. [/quote]

Except I think you missed the point of the post. He asked if anyone received theirs and what they thought BECAUSE he was disappointed. That is his opinion and he has every right to express it. How would contacting the maker change this? The issue he is taking wouldn't be a one off issue and the only remedy would be to completely remake it from scratch or return it for a refund. This makes your criticism a moot point.

For the record I am one who ordered the quarter caskets and realize what he is talking about and have no issues with Jake or Airship Magic.
Message: Posted by: D_avid (Nov 10, 2019 07:25PM)
[quote]On Nov 10, 2019, mroek wrote:
And if you can't use it with a borrowed coin, that certainly reduces the attractiveness of the trick, in my opinion. [/quote]

You may or may not be able to use a borrowed coin. For all intents and purposes this was never intended to accommodate those circumstances which is why a coin is included. It would be great if you could with 100% success, but if you are expecting to be able to use a borrowed coin 100% of the time this is not it.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Nov 10, 2019 07:45PM)
[quote]On Nov 10, 2019, mroek wrote:
[quote]On Nov 10, 2019, MrWizard wrote:
Quarter Size Coin Casket

Has anyone else received their Quarter Size Version Coin Casket Yet. What did you think about the coin you received? Can't remember when I anticipated something so much and have been more disappointed with what I opened. I absolutely love the Half dollar version but this quarter version is not the same at all. It works ok but The road taken to make it work took a bad detour. Those that have gotten theirs know what I am talking about. PM me with your thoughts if you don't want to say anything public as it would likely amount to a little exposer that's why I am not posting pictures of the quarter. I oh so wanted this to be what it was said it would be. A smaller box that fits the un-gimmicked quarter like the half dollars fits it's box. I still want one that is right as this certainly isn't usable IMHO. Again could not be more shocked and disappointed never expected this from AirShip. Some will likely just be quiet and cut their losses but I think before many more get shipped out they should look at this release with a new eye and realize this is not the answer to the inconsistent tolerance problem. :rolleyes:

Richard [/quote]
So the quarter size box isn't actually made to fit a quarter? If so, that sounds pretty odd, and for sure would be a valid reason to be disappointed. The half dollar version has received massive praise, and as far as I know, uses an ungimmicked half dollar. Unless I am misunderstanding something, it sounds like the quarter size version uses a gimmicked coin (or else pictures would have been both fine and also unnecessary), which in my opinion somewhat negates the value of the trick. I don't live in the US, but I do know that quarters are much more common than half dollars, which is kind of why people really wanted the quarter size version in the first place. And if you can't use it with a borrowed coin, that certainly reduces the attractiveness of the trick, in my opinion. [/quote]

Exactly the point the excitement of opening the package was to see this smaller quarter size box with the quarter fitting nicely inside like the half dollar version. One glance at the coin I knew the dream was over. What I got was a regular half dollar size box. I checked it with my Kennedy half dollar works the same. Can use this quarter in the half dollar boxes. The worst part is the coin looks so altered it cannot help but be noticed if you ever had a quarter in your hand. I handed it to 5 people and all of them asked me what is up with this coin. Not just the visual but the feel too. This also makes it the only quarter that will work. The beauty of the half dollar versions is they can look that the coin and box with a jewelers loupe and see nothing odd but from 6 feet away I can see something looks weird about that quarter which makes this unusable for me. Like Elvis has left the building.... the magic has left the box. I still want one made to fit a regular quarter even if only one out of 7 coins tried works it's still better. I would just keep checking my change until I had a ton that worked. Only good thing I can say is the box can still be used for what it is... a half dollar box. But to complete the set I will have to go find one in silver in the dates I know works. So sad this came out this way.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 10, 2019 10:14PM)
Let me address the issues here. One of them will expose exactly how the effect is achieved. Since it's in an open to all thread this is where it will be discussed.

First of all I asked actually I Polled in this forum which model would people like to see, a dollar or a quarter. I think there were 4 or 5 responses. I then polled "Should I change the size of the box?" I think there was 1 response saying leave it the same size.
That issue is closed.

The difference between quarters in general are insane, not only from wear, but from different Mints around the US. Even uncirculated coins direct from the US Mint in rolls vary. One mint will work and one won't. So much for Government Specs.

The coins are not mutilated, this is an embellishment. After finding it impossible to match tollerences so it worked with all Eagle quarters, I tried something. I made a piece of tooling that put a slight bevel on the coin from a pressing the coin into it
where is made ALL quarters work.

Here are two links to the EXACT Quarter that is supplied to show that they are NOT mutilated, but have been the slight bevel I mentioned.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/921/SxWCq2.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/922/ve2DNA.jpg

I have 12 people in various states that are professional magicians that test it out not excluding myself locally. We talked about the method. Each one has to perform the effect 24 times minimum then report back
of any issues good or bad. Out of all of us 2 instances that were not good came back. That's over 312 performances with 2 issues. Each beta set came with 2 coins because I had made 2 different sets of tooling
to flare the quarters so they ALL worked. Everyone including myself determined the first tooling worked the best and that is the one pictured in the links.

If you had any concerns you should have written me prior to a review so I would have had the chance to explain all this to you, but since you felt it necessary to just dead drop the issue you have with it in an
open forum I saw no reason to contact you privately.

Also, please note, even if the method hadn't switched from the lid to the coin, you would still NEVER be able to 100% borrow a Quarter because most have worn so thin. It was also discussed about the State
Quarters, they are impossible to do unless done in the same way. Have you ever run your finger across the face of the new State Quarters? They are 95% smooth when you run your fingers across them. They
would not work without be machined.

-MJJ
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 10, 2019 10:19PM)
[/quote] So the quarter size box isn't actually made to fit a quarter? If so, that sounds pretty odd, and for sure would be a valid reason to be disappointed. The half dollar version has received massive praise, and as far as I know, uses an ungimmicked half dollar. Unless I am misunderstanding something, it sounds like the quarter size version uses a gimmicked coin (or else pictures would have been both fine and also unnecessary), which in my opinion somewhat negates the value of the trick. I don't live in the US, but I do know that quarters are much more common than half dollars, which is kind of why people really wanted the quarter size version in the first place. And if you can't use it with a borrowed coin, that certainly reduces the attractiveness of the trick, in my opinion. [/quote]


All the Half dollar size boxes were supplied with silver coins or "Matched" coins for the very reason coins are not consistent and borrowed coins are a 50/50 chance.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Nov 11, 2019 02:12AM)
[quote]On Sep 11, 2019, MrWizard wrote:
[quote]On Sep 11, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
An update on the 1/4 size Divination Box. I never got any feedback after requesting some about changing the size of the box so I did downsize it a bit. But in doing so it made it incompatible with the John Talbot
Routine. I received PM's and emails asking if it could be make to work with the Talbot routine. The diameter of the box was not an issue as was the height of the box which wouldn't allow it to function properly
with the plastic case and suitcase. Even by adding some more business cards into the case, the new design would not work.

I'm almost done re-tweaking the box dimensions so it WILL work with the Talbot set up. The Hurricane has set us back a bit as well, but we are still shooting for September shipping.

I just wanted to update everyone who is still following this thread and those who pre-ordered.

Kindest Regards,
Jake Jr. [/quote]

Jake that is fabulous news about the quarter size box being redone to work, and it is smaller which is what I wanted. My pre order has been in for while. I may want to get another one now I know it's been updated.

Thanks
Richard [/quote]

I thought it was going to be smaller diameter just thicker from your post as you can see by my reply. I never seen anywhere the coin is going to be modified. If I would have been contacted to ask in email since it is pre ordered if I am ok with a modified coin I would have jumped ship then. The reason this was such a great trick was it used a untouched coin. By making this change it is different. If a poll was taken here about making this change I am sure it would have been very low number thinking that is a good idea. I took a kind of unwanted poll of my own 5 out of 5 none magicians 2 being kids noticed the coin has been modified right away before they even knew what I was going to show them, that is not good. Still would rather have one that if need be hit or miss which coin you find in the wild will work long as is a regular coin.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Nov 11, 2019 03:14PM)
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I thought it was going to be smaller diameter just thicker from your post as you can see by my reply. I never seen anywhere the coin is going to be modified. If I would have been contacted to ask in email since it is pre ordered if I am ok with a modified coin I would have jumped ship then. The reason this was such a great trick was it used a untouched coin. By making this change it is different. If a poll was taken here about making this change I am sure it would have been very low number thinking that is a good idea. I took a kind of unwanted poll of my own 5 out of 5 none magicians 2 being kids noticed the coin has been modified right away before they even knew what I was going to show them, that is not good. Still would rather have one that if need be hit or miss which coin you find in the wild will work long as is a regular coin. [/quote]

Why would I post the method here? In any case, when I get back from Ga. I'm going to start a CAD/CAM drawing of a smaller box. The accuracy of the CNC we have is 0.00001. But like the halves you're going to have to use
the coin that is matched to the box. So the method is out in the ether hope all are satisfied.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: D_avid (Nov 11, 2019 04:08PM)
To anyone on the fence about purchasing a coin casket, please, PLEASE do not let the last few posts deter you. The inner working are impressive, as is the reactions. If you are put off by the pictures of the quarter, the half dollar one uses an unaltered half.

Full disclosure: I came into this gem a year late, thus my kid in a candy store excitement. I do not personally know Jake, nor do I have a vested interest.

Now back to testing the theory a borrow coin may be used. Hope to report back soon!
Message: Posted by: Rook (Nov 11, 2019 04:17PM)
With the rate that I lose coins, I'm extra careful with this! I must say that I'm thoroughly enjoying my own casket and (an odd sentence to find myself writing) and am still test marketing routines. Not quite satisfied with my routining as of yet, but the effect is wonderful!
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Nov 11, 2019 04:58PM)
I have had the half dollar version from pretty much day one and this is an exceptional piece .
Also the service I received from Jake was absolutely top notch .
Jake is very active on this thread which is also very refreshing .
I would definitely have contacted him directly ( if I had an issue ) rather than post on an open forum because he is committed to what he does and would always answer your concerns at a heart beat . I donít personally know him but I have been in magic a long long time and guys like Jake are a very rare breed imo Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Nov 11, 2019 05:12PM)
[quote]On Nov 11, 2019, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
I have had the half dollar version from pretty much day one and this is an exceptional piece .
Also the service I received from Jake was absolutely top notch .
Jake is very active on this thread which is also very refreshing .
I would definitely have contacted him directly ( if I had an issue ) rather than post on an open forum because he is committed to what he does and would always answer your concerns at a heart beat . I donít personally know him but I have been in magic a long long time and guys like Jake are a very rare breed imo Gaz 🙂 [/quote]


Yes but he looks well dodgy in his profile photo... looks like he needs an eye patch, a parrot and a gammy leg! But you should not judge a book by its profile picture...

But don't let that fool you ... he is great and his work is top notch.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 12, 2019 08:55AM)
Very much looking forward to a stainless steel coin casket.
I want two of them also.
Message: Posted by: MrWizard (Nov 12, 2019 05:59PM)
[quote]On Nov 11, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
[/quote]

I thought it was going to be smaller diameter just thicker from your post as you can see by my reply. I never seen anywhere the coin is going to be modified. If I would have been contacted to ask in email since it is pre ordered if I am ok with a modified coin I would have jumped ship then. The reason this was such a great trick was it used a untouched coin. By making this change it is different. If a poll was taken here about making this change I am sure it would have been very low number thinking that is a good idea. I took a kind of unwanted poll of my own 5 out of 5 none magicians 2 being kids noticed the coin has been modified right away before they even knew what I was going to show them, that is not good. Still would rather have one that if need be hit or miss which coin you find in the wild will work long as is a regular coin. [/quote]

Why would I post the method here? In any case, when I get back from Ga. I'm going to start a CAD/CAM drawing of a smaller box. The accuracy of the CNC we have is 0.00001. But like the halves you're going to have to use
the coin that is matched to the box. So the method is out in the ether hope all are satisfied.

Jake Jr. [/quote]

It was never my intension for any exposer to happen that is why my first post asked for people to PM me with their thought about what they received. Which many did. I didn't post any pictures just expressed my disappointment in what I got.

I was expecting and am positive all others expected to get is what you just posted your are now going to do. I thought that was what we all have been waiting for.... making it to match the coin. My disappointment is well founded.

Good to know you are not giving up I know you can match these coins just like the half dollar version which is top notch and love it.

Richard
Message: Posted by: mroek (Nov 13, 2019 09:04AM)
[quote]On Nov 11, 2019, Mad Jake wrote:
[quote]

I thought it was going to be smaller diameter just thicker from your post as you can see by my reply. I never seen anywhere the coin is going to be modified. If I would have been contacted to ask in email since it is pre ordered if I am ok with a modified coin I would have jumped ship then. The reason this was such a great trick was it used a untouched coin. By making this change it is different. If a poll was taken here about making this change I am sure it would have been very low number thinking that is a good idea. I took a kind of unwanted poll of my own 5 out of 5 none magicians 2 being kids noticed the coin has been modified right away before they even knew what I was going to show them, that is not good. Still would rather have one that if need be hit or miss which coin you find in the wild will work long as is a regular coin. [/quote]

Why would I post the method here? In any case, when I get back from Ga. I'm going to start a CAD/CAM drawing of a smaller box. The accuracy of the CNC we have is 0.00001. But like the halves you're going to have to use
the coin that is matched to the box. So the method is out in the ether hope all are satisfied.

Jake Jr. [/quote]

Nobody asked you to expose the method here. As I see it, the point is that you said you had reworked the box to be smaller (to fit a quarter), but what the buyers apparently received was the same box as before, just with a modified coin instead. That might be fine for some, but not what buyers expected. The original half dollar version is clearly a great piece of magic, so hopefully you can make a true quarter size version that is just as good, and with a coin that will not raise suspicion as to the method.