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Topic: Best way to change 4 Blue cards to 4 red
Message: Posted by: ccmwl (Dec 28, 2018 08:47PM)
I find myself performing John Guastaferro's Out of the Blue more often than not, but at the end, I'm left with 4 blue cards which do not fit in with the rest of the red deck. What's the best way to change them "back" to red?

I have a himber wallet from Marvin's Magic back when I was a young'un but that introduces an unnecessary prop.
Message: Posted by: fonda57 (Jan 6, 2019 09:56PM)
Take a look at Paul Gordons Four Card Fooler.
Vanishing inc has this as a five dollar download. Great trick.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 10, 2019 09:08AM)
That sounds intriguing, fonda57. Is the trick examinable at the end? Bob
Message: Posted by: fonda57 (Jan 12, 2019 12:47PM)
If you put them in your pocket.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 12, 2019 09:28PM)
:)
Message: Posted by: IncantoMagic (Feb 13, 2019 03:06AM)
Could always do a simple switch, under a cardbox or something. Or you could control them to the bottom of the deck and palm them out.
Message: Posted by: ccmwl (Mar 18, 2019 03:13AM)
[quote]On Jan 6, 2019, fonda57 wrote:
Take a look at Paul Gordons Four Card Fooler.
Vanishing inc has this as a five dollar download. Great trick. [/quote]

Thanks for this suggestion. However, the ending is rather dirty and the faces of the queens cannot be shown. I've now adopted Mathieu Bich's Back Twist. It too doesn't end clean, but at least I'm able to show the backs and faces. It also allows me to solely focus on the back color changes (via the Asher Twist) and without the unneeded "twisting" effect when each queen turns face down.

I'm in no way saying Paul Gordon's effect is bad. Far from it. It's a genius idea and will be a fooler - a lot of thought had gone into it and is a great twisting trick. It just isn't suitable for my own personal purpose.
Message: Posted by: terrillific (Mar 24, 2019 02:29PM)
Check out Peter Pellikaan. He has some incredible tricks where faces and backs change. https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magician/Peter-Pellikaan/
I can't remember what the trick is called but you can't go wrong with anything that he produces. They are all quick effects and aren't hard to do.
Message: Posted by: magojose| (Mar 25, 2019 08:00PM)
Maybe a face up 4 by 4 change. There’s a book on the subject by Karl Fulves called Packet Switch. Hope to be helpful with your search
Bye!
Message: Posted by: Jack Skipton (Mar 27, 2019 01:47PM)
If you use a topit you should check out Carl Cloutier, he has an instant change of 4 cards.
Message: Posted by: ccmwl (Mar 27, 2019 08:46PM)
[quote]On Mar 27, 2019, Jack Skipton wrote:
If you use a topit you should check out Carl Cloutier, he has an instant change of 4 cards. [/quote]

Great idea, but I only wear T-Shirts.
Message: Posted by: KokoB (May 2, 2019 08:12AM)
As you see there are many ways you can change cards, Paul Gordon has ways Peter Pellikaan has ways,If its packet tricks then these guys by far have the greatest Packet Tricks out.& yes you will learn to switch packets n cards like no other.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Aug 10, 2019 01:00PM)
Hi Magojosé,


I was intrigued by this suggestion of yours:


"Maybe a face up 4 by 4 change. There’s a book on the subject by Karl Fulves called Packet Switch."


Do you remember which volume of Packet Switches the change is in? I have volume 3 but not the other four volumes. Or perhaps you can suggest another source?


Thanks,


Bob
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Aug 10, 2019 01:02PM)
P. S. IncantoMagic, you suggested a simple switch, e. g., under a cardbox. Do you have any references to methods for doing this?


Bob
Message: Posted by: holdingoutflat (Sep 2, 2019 08:43PM)
If you're doing it overtly, Babel has an incredible move that must be done at the table that is an "any amount of cards switched with any amount of cards"
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Sep 3, 2019 10:16AM)
Holdingoutflat, do you happen to have a reference for the move? And how would you rate its difficulty?


Thanks,


Bob
Message: Posted by: ccmwl (Sep 7, 2019 06:52PM)
[quote]On Sep 3, 2019, Bob G wrote:
Holdingoutflat, do you happen to have a reference for the move? And how would you rate its difficulty?


Thanks,


Bob [/quote]

Keen to know about this too. Love Babel's 3 card monte...this should be interesting.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Sep 7, 2019 08:19PM)
Well, I've learned this much: Bebel is a french magician (note the spelling). I found some of his work on Penguin, Vanishing, and Ellusionist. I couldn'lt find detailed descriptions that would tell us where to find the packet switch that "holding" mentioned. Anyone know?
Message: Posted by: Matthew Crabtree (Sep 7, 2019 10:21PM)
[quote]On Sep 7, 2019, Bob G wrote:
Well, I've learned this much: Bebel is a french magician (note the spelling). I found some of his work on Penguin, Vanishing, and Ellusionist. I couldn'lt find detailed descriptions that would tell us where to find the packet switch that "holding" mentioned. Anyone know? [/quote]

It is on the Ellusionist download not Grace but the other one
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Sep 8, 2019 10:20AM)
Got it -- it's "Bebel - An Underground Legend." Thanks, Matthew. Anyone have thoughts about how hard these moves are? Description says there's little talking, and all in French. For us rudimentary French speakers, is is it easy to follow what the moves are?


Thanks, folks.
Message: Posted by: Matthew Crabtree (Sep 8, 2019 10:26AM)
[quote]On Sep 8, 2019, Bob G wrote:
Got it -- it's "Bebel - An Underground Legend." Thanks, Matthew. Anyone have thoughts about how hard these moves are? Description says there's little talking, and all in French. For us rudimentary French speakers, is is it easy to follow what the moves are?


Thanks, folks. [/quote]

I have been performing sleight of hand for a little over 25 years. If you have more than a basic understanding of cards and sleights, it is not hard to follow or pick up, Like most good magic, it will take some time to get these to look good. Let me check the penguin lecture to see if he teaches it.
Message: Posted by: Matthew Crabtree (Sep 8, 2019 10:30AM)
No he does not teach it in the Penguin Lecture.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Sep 8, 2019 12:30PM)
Thanks for checking, Matthew.