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Topic: Loop coin
Message: Posted by: boydy (Jan 10, 2019 02:43PM)
Is there a loop coin prop like there is a loop ball?
Message: Posted by: Jerry (Jan 10, 2019 07:18PM)
I made one, it was pretty easy.
Used a 50 cent coin.
Message: Posted by: Emory Kimbrough (Jan 10, 2019 09:56PM)
Now-U-C-It, Now-U-Don't - Jeff Stewart, sold by Meir Yedid and based on the decades-old Ed Mellon's Miracle Money. There's now a New Improved Miracle Money - James Swoger, Jay Leslie, and Ed Mellon. Though it doesn't use a loop, a somewhat related trick is John Cornelius's Fickle Nickel.
Message: Posted by: boydy (Jan 11, 2019 01:54PM)
Thanks, I'll look into those.
Message: Posted by: Riley (Jan 11, 2019 03:11PM)
Worth a look for a similar effect (but not a loop) is the booklet "Dances with Coins" by Al Schneider. Here's some of it on YouTube:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8um1W1-cGLs
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Jan 11, 2019 04:33PM)
Loop -- as in an IET Loop(tm) or just a loop of some kind of thread/cord attached to a coin?
Message: Posted by: Riley (Jan 11, 2019 04:58PM)
I forgot to mention Eddie Joseph has the looped coin in his "Coin and Money Magic" from that great resource Lybrary.com
Message: Posted by: Signet (Feb 9, 2019 06:29PM)
I was talking to an older magician at my local club meeting a while back. The gentleman has since passed away. I asked him about the loop coin. He said he made his own back in the day. He drilled a small hole in a half dollar with a left handed drill bit on a drill press. He was adamant that you have to use a left handed bit. I didn't ask him why it had to be left handed. Then you run a clear fishing line through and make a loop. He said get the line as thin as you can, like 5lb test. Make a loop big enough so when it's around your thumb, the coin is in classic palm position. You show the coin in your palm, then move your hands up and turn them. The coin swings around and you have a nice vanish. I have yet to try it, but it's in my list.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 9, 2019 11:32PM)
T. Nelson Downs in his book "The Art of Magic" has drawings of several different mechanical devices for producing a coin over and over again for the Miser's Dream routine. One is a loop coin similar to what Signet describes above.

Jim
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 10, 2019 01:40AM)
It "T.U.C. Appreciation" is a description of making one for the TUC gaff
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 10, 2019 01:50AM)
Similar in function is a "Geezer" gimmick (from one I originally made for a 86 year old magician with arthritis)

one side of a coin is covered with moleskin with an extending tab that can be pinched between the middle fingers.
It can lie on the palm as a visible coin, or flop over to be flesh colored in finger palm position.

or, for a Miser type routine, visible at the fingertips and invisible in a casual sweeping search for another coin.

When used in combination with another coin there are other possibilities.

I have an eBook lying around somewhere ;)
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 10, 2019 09:23AM)
There's a dvd called Gone by Ryan Lowe
It show's a great application for this.
And how to make your loop from dental floss.
Todd
Message: Posted by: IncantoMagic (Feb 13, 2019 08:49PM)
In Levent's Ultimate Guide to the Miser's Dream, he dismisses this gimmick as more trouble than its worth...though that is in the specific context of the Miser's Dream
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 13, 2019 08:58PM)
Of course Levent's favored method is to toss the coin up from the palm and catch it between your thumb and index finger!

Jim
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Feb 14, 2019 05:48AM)
[quote]On Jan 10, 2019, boydy wrote:
Is there a loop coin prop like there is a loop ball? [/quote]


My first introduction to the loop coin, was from Magic Inc. they sold one for the stand up coin on the back of the hand. In those days they did not use real money, or it came with a silver dollar size palming coin.

To make one you have to go to a hobby shop and buy drill bits that are smaller then what is available from hardware stores. You can buy them individually, so the expense is not great.

They can be used in a Dremel or quarter inch drill. You want to get one that is just a little larger then the 2 or 3 pound clear fishing line sold at Wal-Mart stores. Then use a surgeons knot to tie the loop off.
Message: Posted by: Jerry (Feb 15, 2019 11:09PM)
This what I use:

https://www.amazon.com/Army-Painter-Miniature-Model-Drill/dp/B001AEB6EE/ref=pd_day0_hl_21_1/134-0336571-8137530?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001AEB6EE&pd_rd_r=f815681b-31a8-11e9-bb99-e508d2a6c0fc&pd_rd_w=kDbl3&pd_rd_wg=whDhP&pf_rd_p=ad07871c-e646-4161-82c7-5ed0d4c85b07&pf_rd_r=QXX30FYAWD9M6AKRBFE4&psc=1&refRID=QXX30FYAWD9M6AKRBFE4

There are other similar types. This a go start for your research of this tool.
Message: Posted by: Riley (Feb 16, 2019 01:50PM)
^ you will need some patience to drill a hole in a coin with that. Those drills we're originally designed for circuit boards and plastic etc. Something like a Dremel - as Bill suggested - is much better.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 16, 2019 09:03PM)
You can also get an inexpensive Hook-coin, attach a tread and bend over the pin.

On some you can drive out the pin and leave an angled hole
Message: Posted by: jay leslie (Feb 17, 2019 03:19AM)
The original coins were drilled through one egge and out the other. Those were solid silver.

I have a CNC machine that drills holes at an extremely slow pace, so the bit doesn’t break and get stuck in the coin.
Message: Posted by: Schaff (Feb 22, 2019 01:40PM)
I made one with an old scotch and soda too.
Message: Posted by: Senor Fabuloso (Feb 24, 2019 02:42PM)
Might wax with a bead and the loop work for an impromptu like demonstration? You could at least borrow the coin.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 24, 2019 06:36PM)
[quote]On Feb 24, 2019, Senor Fabuloso wrote:
Might wax with a bead and the loop work for an impromptu like demonstration? You could at least borrow the coin. [/quote]

I have tried various "instant attach" methods over the years. None hold up well for several moves.
Maybe there is some new product, but I would have a confidence problem.

I found it easier to just switch in the gaff.