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Topic: Thumb Tip Bill Switch
Message: Posted by: Walking Bob (Jan 26, 2019 10:18AM)
I have been playing around with the XXL Thumb tio and bill switch. I have found that because of the larger TT you don't have to fold the bill quite so small. Just looking for ideas and or comments on using this XXl TT for the switch.

Thanks in advance and have a grerat day,

Walking Bob in Iowa
Message: Posted by: Wx4usa (Jan 26, 2019 12:57PM)
Are you meaning the vernet xxl?
Message: Posted by: Walking Bob (Jan 26, 2019 03:10PM)
Yes, the Vernet xxl
Message: Posted by: Wx4usa (Jan 26, 2019 03:14PM)
Iíve never used it for the bill switch. Itís too big for me. The classic is just right. Does the classic or king size fit when your hand is hanging down with nothing in the TT?
Message: Posted by: Bobby Forbes (Jan 27, 2019 05:32AM)
[quote]On Jan 26, 2019, Wx4usa wrote:
Iíve never used it for the bill switch. Itís too big for me. The classic is just right. Does the classic or king size fit when your hand is hanging down with nothing in the TT? [/quote]

That's why I can't use the XXL. If I let my hand drop to my side it wants to fall off. A shame because I like Richard Sanders Visi-bill. I use Four Quarters from Magick Balay
Message: Posted by: Wx4usa (Jan 27, 2019 05:41AM)
Unless your thumb is very large, use the classic hard and fold differently. Iíve found that speed isnít necessarily necessary...pardon the redundancy... lol. Thereís a balance between showing both hands completely free during the folds and speed.
Message: Posted by: Walking Bob (Jan 27, 2019 11:26AM)
I agree that the XXl TT is to big and would easily fall off your thumb. The classic size fits me perfectly. But I am finding that if I fold the bill one less time than in the standard bill switch, the
bill takes up enough room to make the XXl fit my thumb perfectly with no danger of falling off. In fact the XXl doesn't seem to extend so long on your thumb. I always thought that folding the
bill as in the standard switch maybe looked a little awkward and unnatural.

Walking Magic Bob in Iowa
Message: Posted by: Conus (Jan 27, 2019 12:50PM)
Have you tried not using one?

For me, this provides me a cleaner and less fidgety look. Also, I find there are more options for presentation and handling.

(Your own mileage may vary!)
Message: Posted by: Walking Bob (Jan 27, 2019 03:07PM)
I have tried not using a TT and very likely will convert to that method. I kind of like it can be done with one dollar bill. Also was maybe thinking
of hiding the extra bill in a Sanada gimmick. I have been just thinking out load to see what others are doing.

Thanks for the ideas and have a great day,

Walking Magic Bob in Iowa
Message: Posted by: Conus (Jan 27, 2019 05:05PM)
Walking Bob - I just sent you a private message.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Mar 16, 2019 08:30PM)
I have to say the xxl size is the only one I can use.Big Thumbs
But it does work really well for a bill switch.
Message: Posted by: Senor Fabuloso (Mar 21, 2019 04:02AM)
An amazingly generous contributor to the Cafť is, Hal McClamma. His website https://www.halsaxonmagic.com/store has what I can only imagine is an amazing bill change video (given his other eBooks and videos) Scroll down for the bill change video. And be sure to check out his limited time free offerings. They are worth there wight in GOLD.
Message: Posted by: Wx4usa (Mar 21, 2019 05:31AM)
[quote]On Mar 21, 2019, Senor Fabuloso wrote:
An amazingly generous contributor to the Cafť is, Hal McClamma. His website https://www.halsaxonmagic.com/store has what I can only imagine is an amazing bill change video (given his other eBooks and videos) Scroll down for the bill change video. And be sure to check out his limited time free offerings. They are worth there wight in GOLD. [/quote]

Thank you for the kind words Senor Fabuloso. As you can see I am fond of the TT. I placed my hand in a table saw in '85 making Christmas gifts and suffered a fully displaced fracture of the distal radius (wrist) in 2000 and my range of motion is horrible... so my cardistry and coins has suffered immensely. I turned to the ole TT. I thought I would be a one trick pony. Well there are hundreds of nice deceptive TT tricks :). The TT and a few other goodies is about all I do. There is a nice beginner bill change with a few ideas to show all fingers freely.
Message: Posted by: countrymaven (Apr 8, 2019 08:32PM)
I think we magicians sometimes make things way harder than they have to be. Why not use a Sa....a gimmick for a bill switch instead of a th. tip?
You don't have to fold as much it is much easier and faster if done correctly. But to each his own. I respect the skill required for a smooth th tip bill switch. But why make your life so hard when there is an easier, simpler and more impressive way to do it?

I respect you if you do it well and it works for you. I am just suggesting that you consider for a minute or so, what could make your effect and angles simpler???
Message: Posted by: John Long (Jun 29, 2019 08:32PM)
There is a wonderful effect called Bare Hand Bill Production by Juan Pablo(I think), that you should check out

John
Message: Posted by: Brent McLeod (Mar 31, 2020 01:56PM)
I work only in the corporate market & for strolling I use a Bill Switch from Blank paper with the company Logo on it that I print
to $100, I use a classic TT as the larger tt is a bit loose,to compensate for a smooth transition so size of bill doesn't need to be large etc.. I Practiced for months until it was 4 quick folds of the paper to 4 quick folds & the money appears, super fast & always a great reaction,the speed compensates for having the bill not folded as small.
Message: Posted by: Kanawati (Apr 5, 2020 11:16PM)
Hi everyone. I haven't looked into learning a non-TT method. I can't remember what size TT I have but I think I have medium sized hands and the TT is a snug but comfortable fit. It won't fall off if my hand is down by my side. I do have a handling that was inspired after seeing Simon Coronel perform. But I have no idea how he does it and I don't think he uses a TT! Outside of that I think my simple presentation is original (I haven't heard any other magician use those lines). I did find out later that my handling looks (although I can't be certain it's the same) a lot like Richard Sanders' Visi-Bill but I did develop my handling before I saw Richard Sanders' version.

One more thing! I know there are routines out there where the TT should not be seen and where a color match is not that important. I'm not trying to suggest people not use proper TT technique. But for this version at least, and for the purposes of full disclosure, I'm using a TT that I have painted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9hjTXefNw
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Apr 6, 2020 06:42AM)
[quote]On Apr 5, 2020, Kanawati wrote:
Hi everyone. I haven't looked into learning a non-TT method. I can't remember what size TT I have but I think I have medium sized hands and the TT is a snug but comfortable fit. It won't fall off if my hand is down by my side. I do have a handling that was inspired after seeing Simon Coronel perform. But I have no idea how he does it and I don't think he uses a TT! Outside of that I think my simple presentation is original (I haven't heard any other magician use those lines). I did find out later that my handling looks (although I can't be certain it's the same) a lot like Richard Sanders' Visi-Bill but I did develop my handling before I saw Richard Sanders' version.

One more thing! I know there are routines out there where the TT should not be seen and where a color match is not that important. I'm not trying to suggest people not use proper TT technique. But for this version at least, and for the purposes of full disclosure, I'm using a TT that I have painted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9hjTXefNw [/quote]

Simon Coronel's looks a lot like Jon Lovick's which is tipless.

Best

Steve
Message: Posted by: countrymaven (Apr 6, 2020 09:15PM)
Check out the sanada bill switch by Jay Scott Berry on his Penguin live lecture. it really rocks. so simple with a little practice.
but if you like it the hard way, keep doing it with the thumb t.