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Topic: FLUX OR SIXTH SENSE 3.0 ?
Message: Posted by: ralphprime (Feb 5, 2019 03:01PM)
Hi, I have the sixth sense 3.0 by hugo shelley but I see the presentation trailer of the theory11 of the flux by craig filicetti (promystic), do you have the flux ? can you tell me the difference ? it's better the flux ?, the sixth sense it's so great but more expensive, thank you :)
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Feb 5, 2019 03:25PM)
Why don't you go read the reviews?
Message: Posted by: music (Feb 5, 2019 05:37PM)
Hi Ralphprime, I see you may be new to the Cafť, so welcome! There are some reviews on both Flux and 6th sense. here is a link to Flux https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=681187&forum=82 and here is a link to 6th sense 3.0 https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=666878&forum=218
Message: Posted by: ralphprime (Feb 6, 2019 09:20AM)
The flux review it's not available, IAIN because I don't know where it's possibile see the reviews
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Feb 6, 2019 10:46AM)
In latest and greatest... But, wait til you hit 50 posts, and there's a thread in a secret area called Inner Thoughts. It'll turn up in search for you too.
Message: Posted by: Davdo (Feb 6, 2019 09:50PM)
I like Flux a lot but it's all I have. Can't say whether or not you should replace your SS3 but Flux does what is supposed to and does it well.

Dave
Message: Posted by: MichaelCGM (Feb 6, 2019 11:41PM)
What is the exact size of Flux if removed from the shell?
Message: Posted by: jadselson (Feb 13, 2019 10:57AM)
Still couldn't find the review 😞
Message: Posted by: DrIlluminatus (Feb 14, 2019 12:05AM)
Go with the flux... The customer support you will get from Craig plus a quality product will be worth it......
Message: Posted by: Wayneobuk (Feb 15, 2019 04:23PM)
I have both SS3 and Flux. The SS3 is definitely more sensitive and the vibration a lot easier to feel, especially if worn on wrist.
The dimensions of Flux removed from the shell are: L=35mm W=13mm H=7mm
Message: Posted by: Looch (Feb 18, 2019 02:14AM)
Flux is the best electronic approach I have ever tried. Exceptionally good product!
Message: Posted by: spaceman-sam (Feb 18, 2019 04:53PM)
I've had flux for a few weeks now and it has quickly become one of my favourite bits of kit. The mere fact that you can use the tech with seemingly empty hands is just too *** awesome! Love it, love it, love it!!!
Message: Posted by: spaceman-sam (Feb 18, 2019 04:55PM)
[quote]On Feb 18, 2019, Looch wrote:
Flux is the best electronic approach I have ever tried. Exceptionally good product! [/quote]

Absolutely agree with this!
Message: Posted by: Demitri (Feb 18, 2019 07:14PM)
I have been a devoted user of the sixth sense since version 1. I have always found it to be 100% reliable, easy to use, exceptional range. I opted for version 2 and 2.5 instead of Pro Mysticís Scan 3D. I was incredibly excited about version 3, and bought it, instantly.

Truthfully, I have noticed issues with version 3 that I never experienced with the others. False reads, vibrations that wouldnít stop, and the unit would, from time to time, just stop functioning. With the app, I was able to sort the sensitivity issues out, and it works almost flawlessly, now.

Then came Flux. I saw the video, read some reviews and despite being happy with SS 3.0, Craigís quality, the reviews, and the price were too tempting. After a few weeks of use, I can say without reservation - this is the best device on the market for m****t detection, by a country mile. Sensitivity is perfect, it has been 100% reliable, and even though the detection distance is a few inches - with the haptic vibration, you can literally place the unit on the spectators hand and they will feel NOTHING. Iíve never given the whole ď what if the spectator feels the vibrationĒ worry a single thought, but accidentally discovering this made me smile.

For proof, put a coin in your hand and lay flux right on the back of your hand. You wonít ferl a thing - but sure enough, the unit is buzzing like Crazy!

So, in my opinion - if you donít have a device of this kind - Flux canít be beat. If you do - definitely consider the upgrade. Craigís quality and service are unmatched.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Feb 18, 2019 10:19PM)
I have nothing to compare it against, but Flux is great imo.
Thanks Demitri, you alleviated my concern over the vibration "traveling".
Message: Posted by: spaceman-sam (Feb 22, 2019 12:38PM)
Not sure why people would use flux under a watch? I actually prefer not to have a watch on at all and keep sleeves rolled up. It eliminates another potential 'I know how it's done option from the mind of the spec...
Message: Posted by: erichoudini (Mar 4, 2019 07:35AM)
Can someone please tell me if the Flux finger shell is malleable so that it will fit any finger snugly? As an owner of Silent Assistant I am concerned about fit and concealment. Thank you.
Eric.
Message: Posted by: rowdymagi5 (Mar 4, 2019 07:47AM)
[quote]On Mar 4, 2019, erichoudini wrote:
Can someone please tell me if the Flux finger shell is malleable so that it will fit any finger snugly? As an owner of Silent Assistant I am concerned about fit and concealment. Thank you.
Eric. [/quote]

The issue I have with Flux is the finger shell. It does not fit me well at all. It is not a universal fit.
Message: Posted by: erichoudini (Mar 4, 2019 07:54AM)
Thank you rowdymagi5.
Eric.
Message: Posted by: Waters. (Mar 4, 2019 10:31AM)
[quote]On Mar 4, 2019, rowdymagi5 wrote:
[quote]On Mar 4, 2019, erichoudini wrote:
Can someone please tell me if the Flux finger shell is malleable so that it will fit any finger snugly? As an owner of Silent Assistant I am concerned about fit and concealment. Thank you.
Eric. [/quote]

The issue I have with Flux is the finger shell. It does not fit me well at all. It is not a universal fit. [/quote]

While I canít be absolutely sure, if the sensor is removed (obviously) and the the finger shell is placed in warm to hot water, it will likely make this more amenable to size adjustment. I havenít done this but it should work.

Has anyone tried this?
Message: Posted by: 252life (Mar 4, 2019 11:34AM)
[quote]On Mar 4, 2019, Waters. wrote:
[quote]On Mar 4, 2019, rowdymagi5 wrote:
[quote]On Mar 4, 2019, erichoudini wrote:
Can someone please tell me if the Flux finger shell is malleable so that it will fit any finger snugly? As an owner of Silent Assistant I am concerned about fit and concealment. Thank you.
Eric. [/quote]

The issue I have with Flux is the finger shell. It does not fit me well at all. It is not a universal fit. [/quote]

While I canít be absolutely sure, if the sensor is removed (obviously) and the the finger shell is placed in warm to hot water, it will likely make this more amenable to size adjustment. I havenít done this but it should work.

Has anyone tried this? [/quote]

Seems like that would work. I had mine in a vest pocket, and it held a bit of a bend just from siting there. The shell seems mailable enough to be shaped, but I havenít intentionally tried.
Message: Posted by: adrianfox (Apr 1, 2019 06:22AM)
Hi All - very interesting to read your thoughts about Flux which I've just ordered, but I have a quick question that you may be able to help with concerning the coin you need to use. Will any m******* coin work or does it need to be super strong? Any recommendations for a British coin? £2 preferably but I guess anything would do - the unit doesn't come with a coin as standard as far as I know. Thanks for your help.
Message: Posted by: MichaelCGM (Apr 1, 2019 04:47PM)
[quote]On Apr 1, 2019, adrianfox wrote:
Hi All - very interesting to read your thoughts about Flux which I've just ordered, but I have a quick question that you may be able to help with concerning the coin you need to use. Will any m******* coin work or does it need to be super strong? Any recommendations for a British coin? £2 preferably but I guess anything would do - the unit doesn't come with a coin as standard as far as I know. Thanks for your help. [/quote]

From everything I've read about Flux, it is more sensitive and picks up even a m******c quarter. I'm guessing that you should be able to easily find something local that will work for you.
Message: Posted by: prankmonster (Apr 2, 2019 12:43AM)
[quote]On Mar 4, 2019, rowdymagi5 wrote:


The issue I have with Flux is the finger shell. It does not fit me well at all. It is not a universal fit. [/quote]


What about the color? Does it fit different skin tones?
Message: Posted by: roblane (Apr 5, 2019 07:38AM)
[quote]On Apr 2, 2019, prankmonster wrote:
[quote]On Mar 4, 2019, rowdymagi5 wrote:


The issue I have with Flux is the finger shell. It does not fit me well at all. It is not a universal fit. [/quote]


What about the color? Does it fit different skin tones? [/quote]
It fits inside the finger, much like a sanada and is cloaked in shade. If you forget itís there ( as with a sanada) no-one will be any the wiser
Message: Posted by: rowdymagi5 (Apr 5, 2019 11:22AM)
[quote]On Apr 5, 2019, roblane wrote:
[quote]On Apr 2, 2019, prankmonster wrote:
[quote]On Mar 4, 2019, rowdymagi5 wrote:


The issue I have with Flux is the finger shell. It does not fit me well at all. It is not a universal fit. [/quote]


What about the color? Does it fit different skin tones? [/quote]
It fits inside the finger, much like a sanada and is cloaked in shade. If you forget itís there ( as with a sanada) no-one will be any the wiser [/quote]

Unless of course you are waving your hand over their hand to "detect" which hand the coin is in . Which makes people naturally curious if you have something in your hand. Personally, I prefer to have an empty hand to dispell any notion that I am using an electronic device. Which is why I would prefer to have the device hidden under a watch strap or in a pocket. Not sure Flux can work that way though.
Message: Posted by: prankmonster (Apr 6, 2019 08:42AM)
[quote]On Apr 5, 2019, rowdymagi5 wrote:


Unless of course you are waving your hand over their hand to "detect" which hand the coin is in . Which makes people naturally curious if you have something in your hand. Personally, I prefer to have an empty hand to dispell any notion that I am using an electronic device. Which is why I would prefer to have the device hidden under a watch strap or in a pocket. Not sure Flux can work that way though. [/quote]

Exactly my thoughts. It seems like spec would be more interested in your hands during a which hand routine than anything else. Having an empty hand makes sense. Since Flux is self contained, I would have to imagine the unit has to be fairly close to the spec hand and probably you can't have it in a pocket? And it may be too big to be hidden under a watch strap.
Message: Posted by: rowdymagi5 (Apr 7, 2019 08:09AM)
[quote]On Apr 6, 2019, prankmonster wrote:
[quote]On Apr 5, 2019, rowdymagi5 wrote:


Unless of course you are waving your hand over their hand to "detect" which hand the coin is in . Which makes people naturally curious if you have something in your hand. Personally, I prefer to have an empty hand to dispell any notion that I am using an electronic device. Which is why I would prefer to have the device hidden under a watch strap or in a pocket. Not sure Flux can work that way though. [/quote]

Exactly my thoughts. It seems like spec would be more interested in your hands during a which hand routine than anything else. Having an empty hand makes sense. Since Flux is self contained, I would have to imagine the unit has to be fairly close to the spec hand and probably you can't have it in a pocket? And it may be too big to be hidden under a watch strap. [/quote]


Exactly right. Too big to hide under watch band. Needs to be fairly close to hand.
Message: Posted by: Nadzri.Harif (May 27, 2019 11:34PM)
Hi gang!

Before I drop some coin on a flux unit, I'm looking for alternatives for a m******* coin. Being where I'm from using a US quarter, or a GB pound, might be a little weird.

I'm thinking a m******* poker chip or die. But to make sense in the presentation I'm hoping to do, I'm leaning towards putting section of m******* sheet/ paper in a folded bill.

Has anyone toyed around with this idea before?

Hope to hear from you soon!

Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Arthur T (May 28, 2019 12:36PM)
You can buy magnetic stones or pebbles at mindfx and at alakazam, that seems more inconspicuous than a poker chip to me
Message: Posted by: seededbap (Sep 12, 2019 03:13AM)
Hi, I used to own Sixth Sense 3 however sold it and now find myself in need of one or similar. I see a fair few Flux devices for sale however I'm wondering if anyone can share the main differences between Flux and Scan 3D. I've had the pleasure of seeing Scan 3D but unfortunately don't know anyone with Flux. From what I understand Flux is a self contained unit and can't be used with a PM receiver? Also when out of the 'shell' is the unit of similar size? It also seems to work on haptics rather than a full on vibration if I'm correct?

Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated,

Many thanks,

Chris
Message: Posted by: hypnoman1 (Sep 12, 2019 12:59PM)
[quote]On Sep 12, 2019, seededbap wrote:
Hi, I used to own Sixth Sense 3 however sold it and now find myself in need of one or similar. I see a fair few Flux devices for sale however I'm wondering if anyone can share the main differences between Flux and Scan 3D. I've had the pleasure of seeing Scan 3D but unfortunately don't know anyone with Flux. From what I understand Flux is a self contained unit and can't be used with a PM receiver? Also when out of the 'shell' is the unit of similar size? It also seems to work on haptics rather than a full on vibration if I'm correct?

Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated,

Many thanks,

Chris [/quote]

Yes that is the main difference Flux is self contiained as Scan 3D is not.
Message: Posted by: Hinge Thunder (Sep 13, 2019 02:48PM)
I have both Sixth Sense 3.0 and Flux. I purchased Sixth Sense 3.0 from Tannen's here in NYC and Flux from ProMystic directly. They both work very well. On the pro side for Sixth Sense 3.0, I like the fact that there is an iPhone App which allows customization (even though the sensitivity can be set without the app). On the pro side for Flux, I like the fact that it is smaller and can be fingerpalmed and I LOVE that it uses button cells. I don't need to worry about replacing a rechargable lithium batery with Flux. Unlike Hugo's In****t Pro, which has a great rechargable lithium button cell that can easily be replaced, I don't see an easy way to replace the rechargable battery in Sixth Sense 3.0.
Message: Posted by: lancenicolai58 (Sep 13, 2019 08:59PM)
I like flux. you only need to worry about one device - very easy to turn on and off. Also great reset.
Message: Posted by: Nadzri.Harif (Sep 13, 2019 09:35PM)
Finally got my flux unit. Great piece of kit. It's all self contained. I can't speak for the other models, but I'm glad a lot of thought has been put in to give you confidence every time you perform. You're never worried if it's on or not, different options to receive the cue, etc.
Message: Posted by: mentaldiego (Sep 14, 2019 12:51PM)
Flux is a great gadget, in general everything from Promystic

tengo MD desde hace tiempo y funciona de maravilla ,Flux no lo tengo pero me lo enseŮů un compaŮero discreto efectivo y autonomo
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Sep 22, 2019 06:08PM)
Flux is far superior
Message: Posted by: Illucifer (Sep 30, 2019 10:28PM)
I currently have a like-new Sixth Sense 3 available for about half the price of a new one. I simply donít use it enough to justify keeping it around. Great product, though!
Feel free to PM me.
Message: Posted by: Expertmagician (Oct 25, 2019 10:33AM)
Also be careful using these devices under a watch strap if you have a smart watch (like an apple watch). It seems to get false reads Ö I think triggered by the watch.
Message: Posted by: Expertmagician (Nov 18, 2019 09:16PM)
[quote]On Sep 13, 2019, Hinge Thunder wrote:
I have both Sixth Sense 3.0 and Flux. I purchased Sixth Sense 3.0 from Tannen's here in NYC and Flux from ProMystic directly. They both work very well. On the pro side for Sixth Sense 3.0, I like the fact that there is an iPhone App which allows customization (even though the sensitivity can be set without the app). On the pro side for Flux, I like the fact that it is smaller and can be fingerpalmed and I LOVE that it uses button cells. I don't need to worry about replacing a rechargable lithium batery with Flux. Unlike Hugo's In****t Pro, which has a great rechargable lithium button cell that can easily be replaced, I don't see an easy way to replace the rechargable battery in Sixth Sense 3.0. [/quote]

Not being able to change or remove batteries is deal breaker for me. Especially since I may not use the device for periods of time, I feel is best to remove the battery to prevent leakage or other problems when a battery is not used or charged. Since Flux has a removeable battery, it sounds better for my purpose.
Message: Posted by: Pauldelafontaine (Dec 23, 2019 03:10AM)
So what british coins will work with flux? I really want to buy it asap
Message: Posted by: Neznarf (Jan 4, 2020 11:53AM)
I have the Kries Super Strong Magnetic QUARTER.

I think it's stronger than the Kries Super Strong Half Dollar.

Yes, I have both and use them with FLUX.
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jan 6, 2020 06:54PM)
I have a strong £2 UK coin which works great .
Also mind fxís agnetic pebble which works and looks great .
Lastly I have a magnet in a small walnut and superglued it back together and that works great too .
I hope that helps , flux works great because of the haptic touch technology imo Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: marcuk (Feb 20, 2020 12:18PM)
I have both and both are great, I use it with pebble or a small baseball
Message: Posted by: Pete Legend (Feb 24, 2020 09:28AM)
Lads how's the form? Just received my sixth sense though unfortunately never received the USB cable that charges the unit - no big deal these things happen and I've just mailed Hugo. Just while I wait for his reply I thought I'd ask here what type of cable is needed? Is it a cable specific to the unit itself or a generic cable that I can buy in some electronic shop? Also if it is generic I assume buying one in the shop here and using it wouldn't in any way damage the unit? I'm terrible with technology as you can tell so thought I'd ask you guys...

Cheers lads!

Pete
Message: Posted by: Pete Legend (Feb 24, 2020 09:53AM)
All sorted. Hugo got back to me straight away. Can't ask for anything more than that - great service!
Message: Posted by: dvno (May 25, 2020 01:45PM)
I ordered Flux a few days ago and hopefully I will receive it this week. I always thought the price would be to high for me for a which hand device, but all the positive words changed my mind and now I am really excited about it.
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (May 25, 2020 03:26PM)
Flux is great I have mine built interchangeable into a white Velcro wristband that is hidden under my shirt for the times I donít want it in finger palm .
You wonít be disappointed itís simple to turn off and on and works flawlessly Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: dvno (May 26, 2020 09:02AM)
Received Flux today and I am very happy with it. Bought a stronger coin then the one from Tango iíve had before though, so that I can hopefully avoid touching the spectatorĎs arm when performing.
Message: Posted by: dvno (May 26, 2020 09:04AM)
[quote]On May 25, 2020, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
Flux is great I have mine built interchangeable into a white Velcro wristband that is hidden under my shirt for the times I donít want it in finger palm .
You wonít be disappointed itís simple to turn off and on and works flawlessly Gaz 🙂 [/quote]


This sounds like a really good idea!
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (May 26, 2020 11:58AM)
Thanks dvno , I also use a great pebble from mind fx which works from distance looks authentic and I also have built a powerful magnet into a small walnut and super glued it perfectly backed together . I also have a very strong £2 coin but the pebble and walnut pick up with no touch necessary of their hand . I have had pretty much all the electronic versions and this is the most reliable I have found and it requires no additional thumper and just cuts to the chase and gets the business done very very well imho . Have fun with it my friend itís my A) set Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: dvno (May 26, 2020 12:41PM)
Thanks Gaz!

Your self built props sound very nice! The Tango coin works fine when I am pointing to the spec's hand, so that shouldn't be a problem, but I am glad though I bough another coin that's way stronger. I already made my wife hating Flux and running away from me chasing her with a coin. :)
Message: Posted by: wulfiesmith (Jun 20, 2020 12:27PM)
I too, am in the process of deciding Flux or Sixth Sense v3.

I am swung to Sixth Sense v3 because the pickup can be hidden under a watch strap, leaving the hands free.
Also, Sixth Sense v3 boasts a distance of 300mm+ pick up on a Half Dollar.

It's more expensive, I know.
But hopefully, less tactile in performance.
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jun 20, 2020 12:59PM)
My hands are free with Flux too see my post on this page . You donít touch their hands to get the info , works wonderfully Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: wulfiesmith (Jun 20, 2020 02:24PM)
Hi "Gaz"
Sorry, I don't think I have explained myself correctly.

With "hands free" I meant with Sixth Sense the hands can be shown completely empty (eg no hidden finger shell).
Plus the distance is much greater.

Thanks for your post
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jun 20, 2020 03:10PM)
No Wulfie my hands are freely shown my flux is worn on my wrist just as you mention . Except I use it under a white Velcro wrist band that adheres to my shirt so the cuffs donít rise so no watch or anything else needed so Itís as clean as a whistle . Plus I have the shell if in casual environments I want to use it , well just off the cuff Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: erichoudini (Jul 11, 2020 08:49AM)
Hi. Having recently acquired the Flux gimmick, which I am very pleased with, I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for securing it to my finger? I have researched an adhesive called Pro-aid and want to know if this is a skin safe and effective means of attaching Flux that can easily be removed? If anyone has tried this or any other safe adhesive with Flux, please let me know your thoughts on it. Thank you.
Eric.
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jul 11, 2020 12:16PM)
I stick many gimmicks to my hands with literally super glue as everything else seems to come off with moisture otherwise .
I will look into pro aid as not heard of it before .
The super glue has never done me no harm and the beauty is you can pick it off in one lump at the end of the night .
Itís not dangerous itís been used in dentistry for years .
Best wishes Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: erichoudini (Jul 11, 2020 02:48PM)
Thank you Gaz.
Eric.