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Topic: Double Dove with Separation
Message: Posted by: Nachtzehrer (Apr 1, 2019 07:50PM)
Hello all:

I assume everyone here knows the double dove production where you tie two silks, put the knot in your mouth, pull the silks up and produce two doves simultaneously one in each hand. Done by several magicians like James Dimmare, The great Tomsoni, etc.

Well I have been doing that for years but what I want to do now is the one where, up to puling the silks in your mouth, is the same but them you separate the hands and produce one dove in each hand and the hands are free and independent. You can see this production on this Jonhathan David Bass video at 2 minutes and 20 seconds.

The reason I need to be able to separate the hands is I want to do this to produce 2 silk fountains at the same time but I need my hands free and independent for later productions. I cant have them conected with a single wire has it hapens in the normal double dove production.

Can anyone help with the attachment to be able to do this?

I hope I made myself clear but any questions pls ask and ill try to explain better.

Thanks a lot for the help.
Message: Posted by: Darrell Trammell (Apr 2, 2019 07:27AM)
Get the Dove Worker DVD by CY. He covers the production you are speaking of in detail.
Message: Posted by: Nachtzehrer (Apr 2, 2019 11:45AM)
Thanks :)
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 2, 2019 01:55PM)
Nachtzehrer, I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish. There are at least 4 different set ups for the double dove production. And none of them leaves the performer's birds connected. I hope you did your homework before connecting your birds together permanently, that is just cruel. That method was heavily protected back in the 1980's when I was performing dove magic. No Internet, and I had to invest over $500 trying to discover the "real" method.

I believe the Channing Pollock method should work well for your Silk Fountain idea. After studying Jonhathan David Bass video, I would say, you are incorrect with the idea. He is using an invisible harness in a different way.

You might want to purchase Levent's early act, where he produces a silk fountain. It might give you some additional ideas.
Message: Posted by: Darrell Trammell (Apr 2, 2019 03:25PM)
In CYs methods the holders not the birds are connected together and the holders separate after the production of the doves.
Message: Posted by: Nachtzehrer (Apr 2, 2019 03:26PM)
That is exactly what I want
Message: Posted by: Nachtzehrer (Apr 2, 2019 07:26PM)
Bill Hegbli

I never said I attach the doves to each other. Obviously I was talking about the bags

Problem is solved The CY Dove DVD has what I wanted

Thanks all for the help