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Topic: Skynet Project by Marc Lavelle
Message: Posted by: Titanas (Apr 12, 2019 02:00PM)
Hey guys,
I'm so excited to announce the Skynet Project.
Marc has created a very sophisticated system that will deliver any playing card safely at your disposal.
It's something that once you have it with you, it will always be there for you whenever you need it, and it doesn't occupy any pocket space.
Marc includes his signature effect that he has performed in literally thousands of shows, but you can use this system anytime you instantly need a called out card like with mystery boxes, cards to impossible location, card to mouth, or card to wallet - you name it.
I love the Skynet Project.

More info:
https://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=61226

Best regards,
Titanas
Message: Posted by: Magic KL (Apr 12, 2019 02:21PM)
I don't really like one of the presentations, where you start with nothing in the bag, and then the chosen card appears.
Message: Posted by: Dominic Reyes (Apr 12, 2019 02:32PM)
Hats off to Marc.. This is very very good.
:)
Big plus... There is no memory work.. and even in the heat of it.. I can definitely count to 3... :)

MoM have it on the site now shipping from the UK with FREE worldwide shipping here:

https://www.magicshop-deals.com/products/skynet

The worldwide release date is the 22nd April

Hope this helps
Dominic Reyes
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 12, 2019 02:33PM)
[quote]On Apr 12, 2019, Magic KL wrote:
I don't really like one of the presentations, where you start with nothing in the bag, and then the chosen card appears. [/quote]

Each to their own - you can choose any presentation that suits you!

A weird backstory about this - shortly after making my first usable version of this, (about 7 years ago now!) I was doing a gig at a Christmas event, and one of my specs did the old Ďthrowing nothing up in the air and catching it audibly in a bagí with a gift bag. He was a fun dude so on the spot, I told him to do the same with an imaginary playing card. I couldnít believe the reactions (exactly like on the trailer). I had previously used and planned to use it just to produce a named card from a CTW!
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Apr 12, 2019 02:44PM)
I'm confused about the "not occupying any pocket space" stuff.

Is this practical and portable to carry on you in the sense that you're leaving the house and then decide to "load up" knowing you can just throw it on your person or in your pockets?

I ask because of advance clothing restrictions etc. It'd be nice to think it's not restricted to one article of clothing, or so on.
Message: Posted by: SleepyMagic (Apr 12, 2019 02:55PM)
Really like the looks of this!

Any clothing restrictions?
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Apr 12, 2019 03:01PM)
And obviously, I know any index using normal cards isn't the smallest thing to carry; it couldn't be in light of the fact you'll have 52 cards. But I'm hoping I'll be pleasantly surprised to its practicality.
Message: Posted by: JohnnyH (Apr 12, 2019 03:39PM)
Looks awesome!!! Might have to treat myself ;)
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Apr 12, 2019 04:02PM)
Is it a single gimmick or a pair?

Is it OK to know the dimensions once it's all set up please?
Message: Posted by: warren (Apr 12, 2019 04:22PM)
It sounds great I look forward to hearing the reviews.
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Apr 12, 2019 04:51PM)
Also wondering what 'no pocket space' means here....
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Apr 12, 2019 05:19PM)
Itís apparently an ind** system. Typically in the past those have taken up some space like Q.

Looks cool.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Apr 12, 2019 05:35PM)
I think this looks like a winner.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Apr 12, 2019 07:23PM)
Mercury fold? Certainly looks like it...
Message: Posted by: The Duster (Apr 12, 2019 07:24PM)
[quote]On Apr 12, 2019, rosariorose9 wrote:
Mercury fold? Certainly looks like it... [/quote]

Surely they are all prefolded before you leave home?
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Apr 12, 2019 08:47PM)
An in*** with them all folded sounds pretty bulky, no?

And if there's no pocket space issues, where the heck does this thing go?

I hope more info is forthcoming as, logically, it's got to be somewhere, and I hate to drop the money and then find out you need to carry something around with you that isn't practical or in line with my persona...

Considering that what it *is* isn't actually a secret, hopefully they can be a little more free with the relevant information.
Message: Posted by: Burf (Apr 12, 2019 10:58PM)
Hopefully some detail of any restrictions will soon be available. Would love to order but if this is not practical for my day to day use I would just be throwing money away (again). Looks excellent, hopefully not too good t be true.
Message: Posted by: takeachance (Apr 12, 2019 11:02PM)
They make a big deal of
"literally as easy as counting from 1,2,3. (Seriously, counting from 1 to 3 is part of the method) so there's a hint
Message: Posted by: dooblehorn (Apr 12, 2019 11:32PM)
Yes, I too found the no pocket space claim confusing...I cannot imagine how this is any different from my Q Quantum Connection In***
Message: Posted by: no2ss (Apr 12, 2019 11:38PM)
[quote]On Apr 12, 2019, Last Laugh wrote:
An in*** with them all folded sounds pretty bulky, no?

And if there's no pocket space issues, where the heck does this thing go?

I hope more info is forthcoming as, logically, it's got to be somewhere, and I hate to drop the money and then find out you need to carry something around with you that isn't practical or in line with my persona...

Considering that what it *is* isn't actually a secret, hopefully they can be a little more free with the relevant information. [/quote]

I have all the same questions. Saying no pocket space usually implies that it's tiny or super thin or whatever. But here, it seems like it must mean something different: that the in*** is just not stored in your pocket. So there are all sorts of obvious questions about *where* it's stored that will determine how practical it is for everyone. Seems like they should have recognized this would be the main question everyone had, so a bit disappointing that it wasn't answer upfront -- but hopefully someone chimes in to answer soon. Because, as everyone else points out, this certainly *could* be super compelling.
Message: Posted by: patapon (Apr 13, 2019 12:05AM)
From the trailer (https://vimeo.com/330102827), at 02:04, one can clearly see that he reaches into his pockets to palm the folded card, which he then "drops" into an empty bag...

Some questions (in addition to the those already posted):
1. Does the reveal always have to be in mercury fold?
2. Is palming required?

Its awesome how fast one can retrieve the selected card, so that part of the effect is great. However, I feel that the obvious palm and reveal in the "empty" bag diminishes the quality of the overall effect as spectators will go -"hey I saw him reaching into his pockets to take out the card and drop it into the bag" - instead of actually being marvelled by how the magician managed to pull out the selected card in the first place.

3. Therefore my last question is, can the magician just reach into his/her pocket and pull out the selected card without any mercury fold?

Thanks!
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (Apr 13, 2019 12:55AM)
The trailer says it ďtakes virtually no pocket spaceĒ but the printed ad copy says (twice) ďrequires no pocket space.Ē Curious why, if the ad copy is correct, the qualifier ďvirtuallyĒ used in the video.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Apr 13, 2019 12:55AM)
Great questions
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Apr 13, 2019 01:00AM)
Obviously we know what it is. It'll take some space. But sounds and seems like it could be quite a nice advancement.

It's got my attention. So...the question we usually like to ask...

Who's first?

:)
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Apr 13, 2019 01:02AM)
From the video itís pretty apparent that the effect requires a bit of extra banter and a fair amount of mis-direction.

Iím going to assume that the cards are pre-folded.
Message: Posted by: rowland (Apr 13, 2019 02:22AM)
Most full deck i*****s will need more than one pocket. Retrieval time isnít really an issue I have two and it literally takes 3 to 4 seconds, for me to buy this it has to be something totally different which takes up less pocket space. Difficult to see ho as like others I think these are pre folded as in the demo all the cards are like this. Hope Iím proved wrong and itís a step forward.
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 13, 2019 07:19AM)
Howdy everyone!

Iím replying from my phone, so excuse me if I miss any questions - Iíll get back in here properly from a laptop later this weekend!

I know the no pocket space seems confusing, but this is why I created this gimmick in the first place, I didnít want even more stuff in my pockets lol

I DO ditch to my pocket (as shown in the trailer) - this isnít essential, just my preference for a quick reset, should I need to whilst strolling (I use this on stage, in parlour and close up)

The cards are prefolded, you choose which cards you want to use - I usually just use old deck cards, and refill from burn packs!

Clothing requirements - this works in pretty much anything apart from a onsie!

The most accurate way to describe the gimmick is that is a none intrusive wearable :-)
Message: Posted by: cardbiker (Apr 13, 2019 08:25AM)
No pocket space because itís pinned somewhere lol
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Apr 13, 2019 08:55AM)
I purchased RFA Productions' Miller Index some years ago. Requires (2) It's advertised as the size of a playing card. Maybe I shouldn't have posted this and don't mean to talk about a different product (sort of) I'm just trying to justify, as everyone else here, the claims and ease of use.
I may ?, if it is significantly different than what I already have.
Message: Posted by: Rizzo (Apr 13, 2019 09:06AM)
This does look good though. So a while back, I thought about eliminating a color. This way, now 26 cards. At that point and even prefolded, if you use 4 pockets, itís is minimal pocket space, 6-7 ♥️ ♦️ In each pocket.
Message: Posted by: The Duster (Apr 13, 2019 09:44AM)
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, Rizzo wrote:
This does look good though. So a while back, I thought about eliminating a color. This way, now 26 cards. At that point and even prefolded, if you use 4 pockets, itís is minimal pocket space, 6-7 ♥️ ♦️ In each pocket. [/quote]


Or to save on pocket space further...

you could still give them a free choice and only need the space for one card, if you get a 52 pocket jacket
Message: Posted by: Titanas (Apr 13, 2019 09:44AM)
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, Rizzo wrote:
This does look good though. So a while back, I thought about eliminating a color. This way, now 26 cards. At that point and even prefolded, if you use 4 pockets, itís is minimal pocket space, 6-7 ♥️ ♦️ In each pocket. [/quote]


Hey guys,
I do understand the confusion. You are all familiar with in***es that go in the pockets.
This is different, itís a one unit device that goes on you comfortably, and itís always there whenever you need it.
Think of a gadgety wearable that is hidden so clothing style is not an issue here.

Best regards,
Titanas
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Apr 13, 2019 09:45AM)
This showed up in my email. I have already placed an order, but this is unreal.

https://www.ebay.com/i/233196532794?ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F0%252Fe11403.m43.l1465%252F7%253Feuid%253D78a9b653e9494fcca5e9966d4f2e08f9%2526bu%253D43241502138%2526loc%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fulk%25252Fi%25252F233196532794%2526sojTags%253Dbu%253Dbu%2526srcrot%253De11403.m43.l1465%2526rvr_id%253D0%2526rvr_ts%253D17274adb16a0aad948c62a06ffe68d2c&ul_noapp=true
Message: Posted by: The Duster (Apr 13, 2019 09:47AM)
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, Titanas wrote:

Think of a gadgety wearable that is hidden so clothing style is not an issue here.

Best regards,
Titanas [/quote]

I think anyone who has smuggled a phone into prison knows exactly what you mean

x
Message: Posted by: SleepyMagic (Apr 13, 2019 09:55AM)
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, Steven Conner wrote:
This showed up in my email. I have already placed an order, but this is unreal.

https://www.ebay.com/i/233196532794?ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F0%252Fe11403.m43.l1465%252F7%253Feuid%253D78a9b653e9494fcca5e9966d4f2e08f9%2526bu%253D43241502138%2526loc%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fulk%25252Fi%25252F233196532794%2526sojTags%253Dbu%253Dbu%2526srcrot%253De11403.m43.l1465%2526rvr_id%253D0%2526rvr_ts%253D17274adb16a0aad948c62a06ffe68d2c&ul_noapp=true [/quote]


Postage is more than the product itself
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Apr 13, 2019 10:05AM)
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, SleepyMagic wrote:
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, Steven Conner wrote:
This showed up in my email. I have already placed an order, but this is unreal.

https://www.ebay.com/i/233196532794?ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F0%252Fe11403.m43.l1465%252F7%253Feuid%253D78a9b653e9494fcca5e9966d4f2e08f9%2526bu%253D43241502138%2526loc%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fulk%25252Fi%25252F233196532794%2526sojTags%253Dbu%253Dbu%2526srcrot%253De11403.m43.l1465%2526rvr_id%253D0%2526rvr_ts%253D17274adb16a0aad948c62a06ffe68d2c&ul_noapp=true [/quote]


Postage is more than the product itself [/quote]

It said free shipping.
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Apr 13, 2019 12:56PM)
Don't bother with the ebay listing. It is the wrong price. You will get an email saying they made a "mistake" and then offer a $5.00 discount off regular price.
Message: Posted by: kollo (Apr 13, 2019 01:22PM)
Wondering if someone can compare it to Vertigo Prediction by Rodrigo Romano
Message: Posted by: Silverstar (Apr 13, 2019 03:45PM)
Is this like Instagrab?
Message: Posted by: jerdunn (Apr 13, 2019 04:30PM)
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, The Duster wrote:
I think anyone who has smuggled a phone into prison knows exactly what you mean [/quote]

And who hasn't? "Here you go, Mom!"

If this ind** has to be stuffed down your pants or inside your shirt, I don't think this is an advancement.

The Q Ind** (Quantum Connection) fits a complete deck into your two front jeans pockets without a "bulge" :) Retrieval time: about 3-4 seconds. So Skynet would have to beat that for me.

Dean Dill had a version that required another rather large item in play. His strategy for misdirection was excellent. He had the spectator DRAW his card on a sheet of paper, and everyone watched that while you retrieved the folded card from his setup.

I hope Skynet turns out to be an improvement over the already excellent Q Ind**.

Cheers,
Jerry
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 13, 2019 04:39PM)
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, Steven Conner wrote:
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, SleepyMagic wrote:
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, Steven Conner wrote:
This showed up in my email. I have already placed an order, but this is unreal.

https://www.ebay.com/i/233196532794?ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F0%252Fe11403.m43.l1465%252F7%253Feuid%253D78a9b653e9494fcca5e9966d4f2e08f9%2526bu%253D43241502138%2526loc%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fulk%25252Fi%25252F233196532794%2526sojTags%253Dbu%253Dbu%2526srcrot%253De11403.m43.l1465%2526rvr_id%253D0%2526rvr_ts%253D17274adb16a0aad948c62a06ffe68d2c&ul_noapp=true [/quote]


Postage is more than the product itself [/quote]

It said free shipping. [/quote]

Shipping showed up as $50 for me with that link! Probably best to buy from your regular Murphy's Dealer!
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 13, 2019 04:53PM)
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, jerdunn wrote:
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, The Duster wrote:
I think anyone who has smuggled a phone into prison knows exactly what you mean [/quote]

And who hasn't? "Here you go, Mom!"

If this ind** has to be stuffed down your pants or inside your shirt, I don't think this is an advancement.

The Q Ind** (Quantum Connection) fits a complete deck into your two front jeans pockets without a "bulge" :) Retrieval time: about 3-4 seconds. So Skynet would have to beat that for me.

Dean Dill had a version that required another rather large item in play. His strategy for misdirection was excellent. He had the spectator DRAW his card on a sheet of paper, and everyone watched that while you retrieved the folded card from his setup.

I hope Skynet turns out to be an improvement over the already excellent Q Ind**.

Cheers,
Jerry [/quote]


It certainly doesnít have to be stuffed anywhere thankfully! Load time for me is difficult to say in seconds, as I do it as natural as possible over time during my usual routines. If someone was to just name a card and you load it say, into a card to wallet, that could be done in about 2-3 seconds, if thatís your preferred style of performance!

Iím not the type of person to suggest buying something unnecessarily- if you have a system that works fine for you, stick with it! I came up with this to eliminate issues I was personally having:

Pocket space
Speed (no math or Ďrummagingí)
Customisable
Quick reset (you donít have to take the whole gimmick out to reset)
Easy card refill (no gimmick cards)
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Apr 13, 2019 04:57PM)
Mark - how big the gimmick once set up please? and is it a single item, or a pair?

if its not pocket-space as such, where do you "wear" it?

cheers...
Message: Posted by: M Pitcher (Apr 14, 2019 03:09AM)
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, IAIN wrote:
Mark - how big the gimmick once set up please? and is it a single item, or a pair?

if its not pocket-space as such, where do you "wear" it?

cheers... [/quote]

They have already replied that it is a single item.
I think that your Ē where do you wear it? Ē Is not going to be replied as this is probably part of the secret.

MP
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Apr 14, 2019 07:01AM)
No news is good news, except when it comes to magic products.
Message: Posted by: Ross W (Apr 14, 2019 07:46AM)
This is fun!

So it's a "non-intrusive wearable" that takes up no pocket space. All the cards are pre-folded and easily accessible.

I thought "A belt" But that doesn't seem to be the case on the video.

For the price, it's not electronic or hugely complicated.

I'm stumped! I like it though...!
Message: Posted by: Stunninger (Apr 14, 2019 08:51AM)
Hmmm...maybe something along these lines, or in this area:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_phone
Message: Posted by: Daren (Apr 14, 2019 01:24PM)
I like the look of this and ordered it! I think it best to maybe leave a bag folded up on table and say inside is a playing card rather than show the bag empty and then have a card appear inside, do the reveal and then you have ample misdirection as they unfold card to produce also a shot glass of liquid from bag also as a kicker finish!
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Apr 14, 2019 01:47PM)
Just say your spirit guide is Eric Morecombe...
Message: Posted by: indomagic (Apr 15, 2019 02:49AM)
[quote]On Apr 14, 2019, Daren wrote:
I like the look of this and ordered it! I think it best to maybe leave a bag folded up on table and say inside is a playing card rather than show the bag empty and then have a card appear inside, do the reveal and then you have ample misdirection as they unfold card to produce also a shot glass of liquid from bag also as a kicker finish! [/quote]

I agree with this. Better to say there is a playing card rather than to magically make a card appear inside the bag.
Message: Posted by: patapon (Apr 15, 2019 04:09AM)
Hi, I posted this earlier and even messaged Marc, but have not got any replies yet, so I'm posting this again and hope that someone can help out?
1. Does the reveal always have to be in mercury fold?
2. Is palming required?

I don't prefer the empty bag routine, so I'm just wondering if I can just pull the card out of my pocket, preferably not in mercury fold.

Thanks!
Message: Posted by: efrados (Apr 15, 2019 05:26AM)
[quote]On Apr 15, 2019, patapon wrote:
Hi, I posted this earlier and even messaged Marc, but have not got any replies yet, so I'm posting this again and hope that someone can help out?
1. Does the reveal always have to be in mercury fold?
2. Is palming required?

I don't prefer the empty bag routine, so I'm just wondering if I can just pull the card out of my pocket, preferably not in mercury fold.

Thanks! [/quote]
1) if it a card you have to have it folded if not it would be super hard to use it
2) yeah for sure
Message: Posted by: Ray Haining (Apr 15, 2019 01:36PM)
[quote] On Apr 15, 2019, indomagic wrote:
[quote] On Apr 14, 2019, Daren wrote:
I like the look of this and ordered it! I think it best to maybe leave a bag folded up on table and say inside is a playing card rather than show the bag empty and then have a card appear inside, do the reveal and then you have ample misdirection as they unfold card to produce also a shot glass of liquid from bag also as a kicker finish! [/quote]

I agree with this. Better to say there is a playing card rather than to magically make a card appear inside the bag. [/quote]

I like the idea of a named card magically appearing. The other way is just a prediction effect (and how many of those have we had?). Maybe the appearance in an "empty" bag is too obvious, maybe its appearance in some other manner would be preferable, but the appearance of a named card "out of nowhere" adds a definite magical quality to the effect.
Message: Posted by: MR Effecto (Apr 15, 2019 02:18PM)
Looks like you might need a jacket of some type . Could be wrong. But looks like you can reach the desired card very quickly . Love the any playing card. Went ahead and pre ordered.
Message: Posted by: Daren (Apr 15, 2019 02:37PM)
I think you could use a folded up card in bag and then use Jay Sankeys paper clipped to reveal the freely thought of card, my mind is spinning with different ideas at the moment
Message: Posted by: kebmo3108 (Apr 15, 2019 02:43PM)
No pocket space is a strong statement - sounds too good to be true - the i***x needs space,... somewhere,.... does a TKO style wearable fall into the "no pocket space" category ;-) ?
Message: Posted by: The Duster (Apr 15, 2019 04:52PM)
I would suggest...

Anything that isn't in your pocket - is taking up no pocket space [in the meaning that they are using here]
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 15, 2019 06:07PM)
[quote]On Apr 14, 2019, M Pitcher wrote:
[quote]On Apr 13, 2019, IAIN wrote:
Mark - how big the gimmick once set up please? and is it a single item, or a pair?

if its not pocket-space as such, where do you "wear" it?

cheers... [/quote]

They have already replied that it is a single item.
I think that your Ē where do you wear it? Ē Is not going to be replied as this is probably part of the secret.

MP [/quote]

I have mine set up as a single gimmick, you CAN permanently split it into two should you with to, not my preference! As for the 'where' - that is difficult to answer as there is no one 'correct' way - it has several options, depending on preference. You could have it on your waist (like me), the hem of a jacket (sometimes like me), the front of your hoodie/t-shirt (Like Javier in the Trailer - which I LOVE!), on a close up pad/stage table (sometimes like me), on the inside of the front of your jacket (Literally just thought of this one!)

If is all preference!

[quote]On Apr 14, 2019, pegasus wrote:
No news is good news, except when it comes to magic products. [/quote]

Sorry, which news?

[quote]On Apr 15, 2019, patapon wrote:
Hi, I posted this earlier and even messaged Marc, but have not got any replies yet, so I'm posting this again and hope that someone can help out?
1. Does the reveal always have to be in mercury fold?
2. Is palming required?

I don't prefer the empty bag routine, so I'm just wondering if I can just pull the card out of my pocket, preferably not in mercury fold.

Thanks! [/quote]

I must've missed this message. For the speed, yeah, it is Mercury folded. You COULD do unfolded with this gimmick, but you would have to do a lot more counting for certain cards. I wanted the handling and speed for any card to be around the same duration. I didn't like stalling for certain cards.

Palming is kind of required, but as they are mercury folded, it is more fingerpalm (for the bag load), holding or clipping.

[quote]On Apr 15, 2019, kebmo3108 wrote:
No pocket space is a strong statement - sounds too good to be true - the i***x needs space,... somewhere,.... does a TKO style wearable fall into the "no pocket space" category ;-) ? [/quote]

Ah, I LOOOVE TKO - and Skynet wouldn't interfere with TKO if you have one :-)

[quote]On Apr 14, 2019, Daren wrote:
I like the look of this and ordered it! I think it best to maybe leave a bag folded up on table and say inside is a playing card rather than show the bag empty and then have a card appear inside, do the reveal and then you have ample misdirection as they unfold card to produce also a shot glass of liquid from bag also as a kicker finish! [/quote]

Great idea. This routine developed from something a spectator showed me as a gag with throwing nothing up and catching it in a bag. I just wanted to make that something appear :-)




Apologies for missing PM's here - I am currently only accessing the Cafť on my phone. I will check here regularly (maybe not daily though, as I gig!) and answer as much as possible as often as possible.

I am also due to be joining Luke Dancy on the Murphy's Live Stream tomorrow (around 8PM GMT) - if you have any questions about ANY of my stuff, feel free to tune in and ask live!
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Apr 16, 2019 04:43AM)
Another idea, if possible, is to have a bag on the table full of blank faced cards all folded up. They name one, reach into the bag and pull one out, first reveal is it is their named card which is magical in itself. Secondly, people from the group pull out cards at random and open them to reveal they are all blank. Alternatively obviously they can pull cards out first and then you reach in and 'pull one out'. Reveal you got the named card only for them to have blanks. There will be plenty of ideas for this, sounds great!
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 16, 2019 05:56AM)
[quote]On Apr 16, 2019, Christopher Williams wrote:
Another idea, if possible, is to have a bag on the table full of blank faced cards all folded up. They name one, reach into the bag and pull one out, first reveal is it is their named card which is magical in itself. Secondly, people from the group pull out cards at random and open them to reveal they are all blank. Alternatively obviously they can pull cards out first and then you reach in and 'pull one out'. Reveal you got the named card only for them to have blanks. There will be plenty of ideas for this, sounds great! [/quote]

Oh, man! I REALLY love this idea!

Could even be a clear bag like this.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Apr 16, 2019 11:52AM)
[quote]On Apr 16, 2019, Christopher Williams wrote:
Another idea, if possible, is to have a bag on the table full of blank faced cards all folded up. They name one, reach into the bag and pull one out, first reveal is it is their named card which is magical in itself. Secondly, people from the group pull out cards at random and open them to reveal they are all blank. Alternatively obviously they can pull cards out first and then you reach in and 'pull one out'. Reveal you got the named card only for them to have blanks. There will be plenty of ideas for this, sounds great! [/quote]

That is BRILLIANT!
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Apr 16, 2019 12:01PM)
[quote]On Apr 16, 2019, rosariorose9 wrote:
[quote]On Apr 16, 2019, Christopher Williams wrote:
Another idea, if possible, is to have a bag on the table full of blank faced cards all folded up. They name one, reach into the bag and pull one out, first reveal is it is their named card which is magical in itself. Secondly, people from the group pull out cards at random and open them to reveal they are all blank. Alternatively obviously they can pull cards out first and then you reach in and 'pull one out'. Reveal you got the named card only for them to have blanks. There will be plenty of ideas for this, sounds great! [/quote]

That is BRILLIANT! [/quote]

This is why we have the Cafť.🧞‍♂️

Best

Steve
Message: Posted by: Silverstar (Apr 16, 2019 01:45PM)
Great idea Christopher Williams.
Message: Posted by: Luke Dancy (Apr 16, 2019 05:21PM)
Hi guys, I had a chance to chat with Marc Lavelle today about the Skynet Project. He referred to quite a few questions from here and was more than helpful answering pretty much any question you have about this crazy cool new release. https://www.facebook.com/MurphysMagicSupplies/videos/2262977913764175

All the best,

Luke
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 17, 2019 07:28PM)
Thanks for the chat, Luke!

Also should say a massive thank you to Javier for his contributions on the explanations (he kindly added his input after I had filmed the core of the project, so didn't have opportunity to thank him on camera!)
Message: Posted by: Silverstar (Apr 18, 2019 02:20AM)
What's a good force bag to use with the Christopher Williams idea?
Message: Posted by: keilunmagic (Apr 18, 2019 03:12AM)
Pocket space is paramount to me. I stopped using both Perfect Cents/Exact Change because I needed one pocket for the Advocate (which for me is still the best i..x system). This has most probably an attachment to pin it inside a jacket/hoodie/sweater so it might be a good solution. I'll wait for some reviews first, I am not totally sold on the MCF - often I just need to add an extra card to a deck so the prefolding doesn't work. Don't know - maybe I'll pass on this one.
Message: Posted by: JustJoshinMagic (Apr 18, 2019 06:54AM)
So full disclosure, I was sent a unit. I just finished watching the download, and while I have yet to try this out, its very clever. Currently I use Instagrab as my index of choice, which I pair with Mint Box. During the holidays, that combo was one I used a lot at my gigs. However, if I had Skynet at the the time, I think I would've used Skynet with Mintbox instead. The reasoning is, you wouldn't be limited to a certain number of cards that could appear inside the box throughout the night, which is great in case groups chat about the magic they saw that evening. For casual performances, I'll still use Instagrab, but for shows, I will switch over to Skynet.

On the download you learn how the gimmick works, ways to modify it, non card uses, and other uses of the gimmick besides using it as an index. I look forward to actually performing this soon!
Message: Posted by: mike donoghue (Apr 18, 2019 02:45PM)
I know exactly how this works and think it is one of the most Ďreal worldí practical tools I have seen on here for ages.
Cantywait to use this& will put my findings on here after working it .
Possibilities are endless
Mike Donoghue
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Apr 18, 2019 03:38PM)
I typically perform in a 3 piece suit sans the jacket (vest and slacks). Would this work for me?
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Apr 18, 2019 04:08PM)
[quote]On Apr 18, 2019, mike donoghue wrote:
I know exactly how this works and think it is one of the most Ďreal worldí practical tools I have seen on here for ages.
Cantywait to use this& will put my findings on here after working it .
Possibilities are endless
Mike Donoghue [/quote]

Welcome back Mike. I was getting worried.
Message: Posted by: Hudson Lee (Apr 18, 2019 04:26PM)
Every review makes me want this more...so excited!
Message: Posted by: stookie31 (Apr 18, 2019 04:59PM)
Marc was a performing guest at our monthly show last night (Sylar and Steve Rowe)
We specifically asked to see him perform this, without telling us the method.

I watched, and watched and was totally fooled.

Speed at which the card was 'found' was indecipherable in performance, everything flowed naturally and the routine was great.

Needless to say I'm ordering one.
Message: Posted by: Angelo Carbone (Apr 18, 2019 08:02PM)
I saw Marc use this on Monday. It is indeed very clever and a useful thing to have on you. I can see the potential for so many routines. It's a super idea!
Message: Posted by: Seth speaks (Apr 18, 2019 09:02PM)
Is this thing going to wear out over time and need replacing?
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Apr 19, 2019 08:49AM)
[quote]On Apr 18, 2019, Seth speaks wrote:
Is this thing going to wear out over time and need replacing? [/quote]

He addressed that in the interview with Luke Dancy.. (see post above) He said it is very durable and will last a very long time. Which is why they chose the materials they did. (No leather)
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 19, 2019 09:07PM)
Thank you for you kind words, Angelo, Steve and Josh, coming from fellow creators that I admire, they mean a lot to me!

[quote]On Apr 15, 2019, MR Effecto wrote:
Looks like you might need a jacket of some type . Could be wrong. But looks like you can reach the desired card very quickly . Love the any playing card. Went ahead and pre ordered. [/quote]

[quote]On Apr 18, 2019, Last Laugh wrote:
I typically perform in a 3 piece suit sans the jacket (vest and slacks). Would this work for me? [/quote]

Although I am in a t-shirt and cardigan in the trailer, I do usually wear a 3 piece suit when gigging. The adaptability of Skynet is perfect for the majority of clothing combinations. - it does of course have to be worn 'hidden' and 'accessible' (nothing unnatural, really) so onesies and morph suits would not be suitable!

[quote]On Apr 15, 2019, Daren wrote:
I think you could use a folded up card in bag and then use Jay Sankeys paper clipped to reveal the freely thought of card, my mind is spinning with different ideas at the moment [/quote]

Javier goes into this in his part on the explanation, along with mystery boxes, and other quarter-folded card switching utilities, of which there are some great ones! I used to be 100% be behind the signed cards being the best card tricks, until I started stack work - I then realised the power of the thought of card routines!

[quote]On Apr 18, 2019, Seth speaks wrote:
Is this thing going to wear out over time and need replacing? [/quote]

Perfectly good question! My 'final prototype' has been with me since September 2017, and has been on me at every gig since, and also a few times out and about for fun. I received my units of Skynet yesterday, and naturally opened one (First time experiencing the full unboxing!) - My USED Skynet looks as good as the day I received it - I literally compared them!
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 22, 2019 03:34PM)
Just a quick clarification to address a comment on a video where Skynet wasnít mentioned... this CAN be used in a suit. Iím not sure the people speaking about it had seen the item, watched the trailer, or watched the video specifically made for dealers!

If you want to see a 360 performance, feel free to check it out:

https://www.facebook.com/100001688988543/posts/2311175518948725?sfns=mo
Message: Posted by: montanna40 (Apr 22, 2019 03:50PM)
Nice performance
Think that has pushed me over the fence now
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Apr 22, 2019 05:46PM)
Very nice! By the way, video would not play on Chrome. but did play on IE.

Gave in...ordered it. Should work well with Kennedy's Mystery Box.
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Apr 23, 2019 03:07AM)
Order is in, very interested in the delivery... Very much looking forward to using drawings with this...
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 23, 2019 04:48AM)
[quote]On Apr 22, 2019, montanna40 wrote:
Nice performance
Think that has pushed me over the fence now [/quote]

Ah, thank you! I REALLY tried to push her from calling an ace, but she really wanted one! haha


[quote]On Apr 22, 2019, rosariorose9 wrote:
Very nice! By the way, video would not play on Chrome. but did play on IE.

Gave in...ordered it. Should work well with Kennedy's Mystery Box. [/quote]

Good to know! I think I am too used to watching the videos on a phone, I forgot to check browser support!

[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, IAIN wrote:
Order is in, very interested in the delivery... Very much looking forward to using drawings with this... [/quote]

Titanas had a great idea to have a crib for commonly thought of drawings in a notepad, and as you 'devine' what they are thinking of or have drawn, you peak the crib.(you'd be able to fit more than 52 in if you use billets, or 52 if you use blank face or double blank cards)
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Apr 23, 2019 07:12AM)
[quote]On Apr 18, 2019, Silverstar wrote:
What's a good force bag to use with the Christopher Williams idea? [/quote]

You don't need a force bag. Just a bag full of blank cards folded up, and you basically p*lm the card into the bag and bring it straight back out
Message: Posted by: lyoma (Apr 23, 2019 11:03AM)
Thank you for nice performance. But it takes rather long to extract the chosen card. Does it really practical? Do you need to separate number and suit to take time?
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Apr 23, 2019 12:16PM)
I think you're mistaken. He's got his hands in his pockets earlier than he needs to, otherwise it'll look like he's going straight to the pocket as soon as the card is generated, rather than just a natural way of standing around.
Message: Posted by: lyoma (Apr 23, 2019 12:31PM)
Thank you for your comment, IAIN, but I'm not sure. It is commun to place several i******. By determining the suit or the number, you can know in which i**** the chosen card is. In Osyn, Mark Calabrese uses this method with the Advocate ( i****) very cleverly. Does anybody who owns the trick can answer my question? :sun:
Message: Posted by: SleepyMagic (Apr 23, 2019 12:41PM)
Can I use this in skinny jeans and a jumper/sweatshirt
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Apr 23, 2019 01:17PM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, SleepyMagic wrote:
Can I use this in skinny jeans and a jumper/sweatshirt [/quote]

I take it youíre asking for a friend. :confused:
Message: Posted by: SleepyMagic (Apr 23, 2019 01:23PM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, pegasus wrote:
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, SleepyMagic wrote:
Can I use this in skinny jeans and a jumper/sweatshirt [/quote]

I take it youíre asking for a friend. :confused: [/quote]

Why would you think that
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Apr 23, 2019 01:51PM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, lyoma wrote:
Thank you for your comment, IAIN, but I'm not sure. It is commun to place several i******. By determining the suit or the number, you can know in which i**** the chosen card is. In Osyn, Mark Calabrese uses this method with the Advocate ( i****) very cleverly. Does anybody who owns the trick can answer my question? :sun: [/quote]

Mark is saying it takes 3 secs to get what you need.
Message: Posted by: MagicBrent (Apr 23, 2019 03:29PM)
It's not three seconds. It's the fact that in counting to three cards either from the beginning of 52, three cards from the middle of 52, and/or three cards from the end of 52 cards helps you find your card easier.
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Apr 23, 2019 03:44PM)
Aaaah I misremembered... Glad someone is on the ball...
Message: Posted by: lyoma (Apr 23, 2019 04:21PM)
Thank you, friends!
Message: Posted by: GusGarcia (Apr 23, 2019 07:51PM)
Ordered, from VanishingInc (my fav) Canít wait to receive.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Apr 23, 2019 08:11PM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, GusGarcia wrote:
Ordered, from VanishingInc (my fav) Canít wait to receive. [/quote]

Ordered from magicandsuch (MY fav)!
:)
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Apr 23, 2019 09:31PM)
[quote]On Apr 22, 2019, MarcLavelle wrote:
Just a quick clarification to address a comment on a video where Skynet wasnít mentioned... this CAN be used in a suit. Iím not sure the people speaking about it had seen the item, watched the trailer, or watched the video specifically made for dealers!

If you want to see a 360 performance, feel free to check it out:

https://www.facebook.com/100001688988543/posts/2311175518948725?sfns=mo [/quote]

Video will not play in Safari on the Mac.

Mark
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Apr 24, 2019 02:14AM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, SleepyMagic wrote:
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, pegasus wrote:
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, SleepyMagic wrote:
Can I use this in skinny jeans and a jumper/sweatshirt [/quote]

I take it youíre asking for a friend. :confused: [/quote]

Why would you think that [/quote]

I think it might be that pegasus recognizes your friend from the description. :confused: :confused: :confused: :) ;) :) :confused: :confused: :confused:
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 24, 2019 05:36AM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, SleepyMagic wrote:
Can I use this in skinny jeans and a jumper/sweatshirt [/quote]

Those are totally fine!

[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, lyoma wrote:
Thank you for nice performance. But it takes rather long to extract the chosen card. Does it really practical? Do you need to separate number and suit to take time? [/quote]

Howdy! From Named card to ready to reveal, it is seconds - I USED to perform this with just one spectator and an outright named card. I then realised I could get more out of the routine, by involving more people. It isn't essential to do it like that, I just get to have more fun with the audience!

[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, MagicBrent wrote:
It's not three seconds. It's the fact that in counting to three cards either from the beginning of 52, three cards from the middle of 52, and/or three cards from the end of 52 cards helps you find your card easier. [/quote]

You're not counting from the beginning of end of 52! It is counting from the beginning, end or middle (either direction) of the Skynet. You only have to count to three at a maximum - but after a while, you'll find you won't even need to do that, but go straight to where you need to be. Hope this helps!

[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, Magic Mark wrote:
[quote]On Apr 22, 2019, MarcLavelle wrote:
Just a quick clarification to address a comment on a video where Skynet wasnít mentioned... this CAN be used in a suit. Iím not sure the people speaking about it had seen the item, watched the trailer, or watched the video specifically made for dealers!

If you want to see a 360 performance, feel free to check it out:

https://www.facebook.com/100001688988543/posts/2311175518948725?sfns=mo [/quote]

Video will not play in Safari on the Mac.

Mark [/quote]

Hi Mark! Try Chrome, or check it out on a smartphone. (Safari and IE don't seem to have caught up with 360 tech just yet!)
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 24, 2019 05:39AM)
[quote]On Apr 23, 2019, IAIN wrote:
I think you're mistaken. He's got his hands in his pockets earlier than he needs to, otherwise it'll look like he's going straight to the pocket as soon as the card is generated, rather than just a natural way of standing around. [/quote]


Spot on. I find it is always best to condition audiences.
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 24, 2019 05:39AM)
The Skynet User Group is now live on Facebook.

I will be posting additional tips ideas and videos on there!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2390695154287711/

Hope to see you there!
Message: Posted by: thecromulent (Apr 24, 2019 07:28AM)
Does this involve making any alterations to one's clothing? As much as I love the idea of things like TKO, as an amateur, they're just not that practical for me. I'm very seriously considering purchasing this, but I'd hate to buy (another) something that I'd never use.

Thanks.

Evan
Message: Posted by: DLMagic (Apr 24, 2019 07:39AM)
@thecromulent: Hi! You do not need any alterations of your clothing, but you need a jacket or without a jacket a longer shirt or something similar.
Message: Posted by: thecromulent (Apr 24, 2019 07:46AM)
Great, thanks for the info! My normal "uniform" includes an untucked buttondown. I'm assuming that would fit the bill?
Message: Posted by: DLMagic (Apr 24, 2019 08:04AM)
[quote]On Apr 24, 2019, thecromulent wrote:
Great, thanks for the info! My normal "uniform" includes an untucked buttondown. I'm assuming that would fit the bill? [/quote]

This should be fine!
Message: Posted by: thecromulent (Apr 24, 2019 08:18AM)
Thanks! Now I really can't wait to get my hands on this!
Message: Posted by: magikmax (Apr 24, 2019 08:27AM)
Iíve ordered mine. Iím going to combine it with Propdogís lovely Lego Mystery Blox mystery box routine. Itís a win-win for me, I think thinking of any card and have it appear in the previously empty Lego box is stronger than having a card selected and appear in the box, and it means that the weakest part of the Mystery Blox routine for me (my slightly dodgy mercury fold) is no longer needed, and it also means that I could still do a signed card to wallet in the same routine if necessary without things being too samey.
Message: Posted by: The Duster (Apr 24, 2019 09:44AM)
No the weakest part.... is the box being empty to start with

Youíre just creating a puzzle
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 24, 2019 10:05AM)
[quote]On Apr 24, 2019, MarcLavelle wrote:
The Skynet User Group is now live on Facebook.

I will be posting additional tips ideas and videos on there!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2390695154287711/

Hope to see you there! [/quote]


Please note - you will have to answer the questions to be added, so don't click to join until you have your Skynet delivered!
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Apr 24, 2019 04:01PM)
Ordered. Hoping itís not like a gun holster of sorts.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Apr 24, 2019 04:58PM)
[quote]On Apr 24, 2019, reignofsound wrote:
Ordered. Hoping itís not like a gun holster of sorts. [/quote]


:rotf:
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 24, 2019 08:47PM)
Ordered. Marc's interview pushed me over the edge.
Message: Posted by: Dapperdan (Apr 24, 2019 08:56PM)
Ordered and just watched the video! (I received the password once it was shipped out.) Will definitely take some work to use, but I am looking forward to putting in the time and incorporating it into my magic! Will be a great addition!
Message: Posted by: lyoma (Apr 25, 2019 01:11AM)
How many i****s are used to cover 52 cards? Only one or two?
Message: Posted by: Dave Nic (Apr 25, 2019 01:53AM)
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, lyoma wrote:
How many i****s are used to cover 52 cards? Only one or two? [/quote]

You have a 50/50 chance at being right with those odds. Just pick one!
Message: Posted by: lyoma (Apr 25, 2019 04:59AM)
I already have a good one : the advocate that came with Osyn. It needs two. If skynet project too, it does not interest me. The video suggests that you should choose the right one by asking number or suit to take time. If Skynet uses just one i****, you don't have to divide the answer, and can extract the very card directly.
Message: Posted by: gotgot (Apr 25, 2019 06:25AM)
Could you take out an orange from your pocket and the named card is inside?
Message: Posted by: The Duster (Apr 25, 2019 07:05AM)
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, gotgot wrote:
Could you take out an orange from your pocket and the named card is inside? [/quote]

In the same way you can have a CTW

But for ease of use - you would be better off waiting until later in the year when I release my i* - that holds 52 different oranges

No Magnets
No Memory Needed
Perform Surrounded
Resets in Seconds

There are some clothing restrictions though
Message: Posted by: gotgot (Apr 25, 2019 07:49AM)
"that holds 52 different oranges"
that's what I'd like my spectators to think :D
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Apr 25, 2019 08:12AM)
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, The Duster wrote:
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, gotgot wrote:
Could you take out an orange from your pocket and the named card is inside? [/quote]

In the same way you can have a CTW

But for ease of use - you would be better off waiting until later in the year when I release my i* - that holds 52 different oranges

No Magnets
No Memory Needed
Perform Surrounded
Resets in Seconds

There are some clothing restrictions though [/quote]

Yeah but for navel or mandarin? If it's the latter, it probably isn't practical and I'm gonna wait for other reviewers.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 25, 2019 10:29AM)
I built an index into a jock strap. I can fit a lot in it due to all of he unused space.
(Usually at least a full deck, two oranges and a banana,)
Some mild audience management is necessary though, since I usually wear it over my pants.
(Trust me, it flies right by)
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Apr 25, 2019 10:41AM)
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, 252life wrote:
I built an index into a jock strap. I can fit a lot in it due to all of he unused space.
(Usually at least a full deck, two oranges and a banana,)
Some mild audience management is necessary though, since I usually wear it over my pants.
(Trust me, it flies right by) [/quote]

Wasnít it two raisins and an acorn?
Message: Posted by: paranormal (Apr 25, 2019 11:13AM)
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, The Duster wrote:
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, gotgot wrote:
Could you take out an orange from your pocket and the named card is inside? [/quote]

In the same way you can have a CTW

But for ease of use - you would be better off waiting until later in the year when I release my i* - that holds 52 different oranges

No Magnets
No Memory Needed
Perform Surrounded
Resets in Seconds

There are some clothing restrictions though [/quote]

you might need more sometimes people when you say name any orange say one with a bill loaded or a plastic one for a chop cup load or one with a citrus gimmick. Just sayimg you might need more options.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 25, 2019 11:27AM)
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, pegasus wrote:
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, 252life wrote:
I built an index into a jock strap. I can fit a lot in it due to all of he unused space.
(Usually at least a full deck, two oranges and a banana,)
Some mild audience management is necessary though, since I usually wear it over my pants.
(Trust me, it flies right by) [/quote]

Wasnít it two raisins and an acorn? [/quote]

You promised you wouldnít tell!
Message: Posted by: lyoma (Apr 25, 2019 12:34PM)
Does someone know the difference between Adovocate (which is included free in Osyn, an awesome card switch method) and Skynet project? With the former, you can extract the card chosen by counting 1 to 3, just as announced for the latter. But Adovocate is rather complicated to find the card. Is it really easy to find the card by Skynet project?
Message: Posted by: Lseeyou (Apr 25, 2019 01:10PM)
@lyoma nothing alike any index out there.

the good thing is that itís wearable and easy interchangeable, nice idea and bit of a kit!

Congrats Marc! :applause:
Message: Posted by: CardGuyMike (Apr 25, 2019 08:32PM)
In his At the Table lecture, Rick Merrill did Card To Sock and in the explanation, he actually had a 52-card index built into his sock. It was hilarious (and obviously just a gag).
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 26, 2019 10:28AM)
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, lyoma wrote:
I already have a good one : the advocate that came with Osyn. It needs two. If skynet project too, it does not interest me. The video suggests that you should choose the right one by asking number or suit to take time. If Skynet uses just one i****, you don't have to divide the answer, and can extract the very card directly. [/quote]

Just the one purchase of Skynet will allow all 52. - I will be totally happy if you wanted to buy two though, to give the spectator choice of red or blue back! :-D

[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, gotgot wrote:
Could you take out an orange from your pocket and the named card is inside? [/quote]

You certainly could!

[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, lyoma wrote:
Does someone know the difference between Adovocate (which is included free in Osyn, an awesome card switch method) and Skynet project? With the former, you can extract the card chosen by counting 1 to 3, just as announced for the latter. But Adovocate is rather complicated to find the card. Is it really easy to find the card by Skynet project? [/quote]

Skynet is super easy and quick to find the card.


[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, CardGuyMike wrote:
In his At the Table lecture, Rick Merrill did Card To Sock and in the explanation, he actually had a 52-card index built into his sock. It was hilarious (and obviously just a gag). [/quote]


THAT sounds awesome! haha
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Apr 26, 2019 10:28AM)
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, Lseeyou wrote:
@lyoma nothing alike any index out there.

the good thing is that itís wearable and easy interchangeable, nice idea and bit of a kit!

Congrats Marc! :applause: [/quote]


Ah, thank you very much!
Message: Posted by: Khuluma (Apr 26, 2019 12:30PM)
[quote]On Apr 25, 2019, CardGuyMike wrote:
In his At the Table lecture, Rick Merrill did Card To Sock and in the explanation, he actually had a 52-card index built into his sock. It was hilarious (and obviously just a gag). [/quote]

I remember that lecture. It was brilliant!
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Apr 27, 2019 08:19AM)
Any "REAL" reviews from workers other than dealers?
I'm ready to hit the buy button but, been there done that, only to add to the junk drawer.
Message: Posted by: Philippe (Apr 27, 2019 10:51AM)
Iím the same, eager to purchase but need a nudge.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 27, 2019 01:27PM)
I think mine arrives today. Iíll try and share some first impressions ASAP, hopefully by Monday when I get a chance
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Apr 27, 2019 02:18PM)
I'm not sure how much I like this... I appreciate the thinking and production for sure. But I don't think it'll replace the ind*xes I make myself. It is very clever. The set up I think you'll either love or hate...
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 27, 2019 03:04PM)
The suspense builds lol
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 28, 2019 01:43AM)
I'm not sure how I feel about this yet.
It does limit/restrict your wardrobe choices, and is bulky.
If you tend to work sans overcoat and with a tucked in shirt, this becomes problematic.
If this is you, and you have the pocket space, a traditional i**** may be a better way to go.
Batman fans will love it though :)
I'm already considering cutting it down to a half pack, and should have waited for more reviews.
This isn't meant as a swipe at the product. I do like Marc's bag catch presentation btw, and Marc seems like a great guy for the record.
The device is well built though, and should last.
There are many removable parts, and you'd have to be fairly aware not to lose them.
For my purposes this may not be a match, but the juries still out. This is all first impressions.
Your mileage may vary.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Apr 28, 2019 02:01AM)
I always considered Doomo of RFA Productions as the holy grail of in***s
Message: Posted by: Dark Knight (Apr 28, 2019 03:58AM)
Years ago, I played around with various indices and making several of my own, including a movable one that would disgorge the card into my hand from my necktie and a rotating belt index inside a static belt. I never was totally satisfied with the various models, especially the ones that had to be worn. I finally worked out a "system" that requires very natural movements and requires no body or pocket equipment. However, it's very idiosycratic and would not be easily adaptable for others to use.

It sounds like Marc has created something that works extremely well for him. The real test will be whether other users agree that it is the best possible system for them, after giving it proper practice and testing in the field.

DK
Message: Posted by: leosx1 (Apr 28, 2019 06:09AM)
A friend showed me his Skynet and I like the fact you can show the card from all sides and give it out too. My favourite devices for any card called for remain Bang On and Incarnation by Marc Oberon though.
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Apr 28, 2019 10:39AM)
Tony Miller is the king of indexes including many creative wearable indexes. Still debating skynet. Sounds interesting but I wear suits with the trabucco holdout installed on both sides so iím guessing that would be a problem.
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Apr 28, 2019 01:15PM)
I wear a sport jacket with a shirt tucked in my pants. Sounds like this would not be a good fit for
me. The initial discussion before the release on this "seems" to be disingenuous. I'll save my money.
Message: Posted by: marcobasi (Apr 28, 2019 01:19PM)
Short review.
the object - as we know - does not go in your pocket. But is easy to wear (i can not fully explain the method without revealing the secret). if you are not satisfied with the method described, you can use paper-clips. it works.
It seems a bit heavy and cumbersome, but once worn it is not noticeable.
Once assembled, it hides with a jacket, a shirt out of trousers, a sweatshirt, a T-shirt. With a day of practice I can easily identify the group of cards that I need for the effect. Just bend forward - asking to the spectator a classic "are you sure?", for example - and hide a hand for 1-2 seconds. The rest of the dirty work takes place in your pocket.
Currently, within 5 seconds from the final choice of the spec, I can extract the folded card from my pocket.
The whole process is quick and safe, but you need to "get used to it" (I mean, you've got something "on". You have to remember it all the time and watch out for your initial movements. With practice, I imagine, this problem will disappear).
I have not yet tested it in a gig, but the premises seems good.
i will do it soon and write to the Cafť clients again.

thanks, Marc Lavelle!
best
Marco
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Apr 28, 2019 01:33PM)
[quote]On Apr 28, 2019, marcobasi wrote:
Short review.
the object - as we know - does not go in your pocket. But is easy to wear (i can not fully explain the method without revealing the secret). if you are not satisfied with the method described, you can use paper-clips. it works.
It seems a bit heavy and cumbersome, but once worn it is not noticeable.
Once assembled, it hides with a jacket, a shirt out of trousers, a sweatshirt, a T-shirt. With a day of practice I can easily identify the group of cards that I need for the effect. Just bend forward - asking to the spectator a classic "are you sure?", for example - and hide a hand for 1-2 seconds. The rest of the dirty work takes place in your pocket.
Currently, within 5 seconds from the final choice of the spec, I can extract the folded card from my pocket.
The whole process is quick and safe, but you need to "get used to it" (I mean, you've got something "on". You have to remember it all the time and watch out for your initial movements. With practice, I imagine, this problem will disappear).
I have not yet tested it in a gig, but the premises seems good.
i will do it soon and write to the Cafť clients again.

thanks, Marc Lavelle!
best
Marco [/quote]

Thanks Marco....
If wearing a sport jacket, with a tucked in shirt, how wide can you open the sport coat/jacket?
I often open my jacket for a spectator to choose various color Sharpies, or pull a wallet out of an inner pocket. If I wouldn't be able to do that, it would be a game changer.
Message: Posted by: marcobasi (Apr 28, 2019 02:34PM)
Dear davidpaul$,
you can open your jacket normally and pull out your wallet.
The gimmick stays "behind" you. A sport jacket is enough to cover the secret.
With a jacket, the shirt can fit inside the pants.
Skynet does not interfere with the back pockets or even with a waistcoat.
hope this helps
best
Marco
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Apr 28, 2019 04:39PM)
Thanks Marco...yes it does. Good to know it doesn't interfere with back pants pocket where my Mullica resides, but the cumbersome aspect is a little discerning. Your review is appreciated.
The jury is still out for me at least for now.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 28, 2019 10:18PM)
An untucked shirt etc., is necessary or a jacket needs to be worn.
If you perform wearing a tucked in shirt, with no jacket for cover, this is unusable as far as I can tell.
Iím disappointed to say this. I really want to be clear that Iím not insulting the product.
If your wardrobe allows for this to be worn, you should be happy with it.
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Apr 29, 2019 10:09AM)
[quote]On Apr 28, 2019, 252life wrote:
An untucked shirt etc., is necessary or a jacket needs to be worn.
If you perform wearing a tucked in shirt, with no jacket for cover, this is unusable as far as I can tell.
Iím disappointed to say this. I really want to be clear that Iím not insulting the product.
If your wardrobe allows for this to be worn, you should be happy with it. [/quote]

Conjurors Community did an on-line review including Aaron Fisher and it was stated that you could
actually perform this with no clothing. It got rave a review. They are selling it as well.
Obviuosly you need some sort of cover. It's an index. But don't misrepresent the product which has been done. The actual purchasers have confirmed this. But if your wardrobe is conducive, as was stated, then all is well except it being cumbersome which was also stated.
Message: Posted by: strollingmagician (Apr 29, 2019 11:49AM)
Great use for Mint Box by Daniel Garcia!
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 29, 2019 11:50AM)
I didnít misrepresent anything.
And I am an ďactual purchaserĒ.
I also donít care who's listed as having a different opinion from mine in an attempt to minimize my input.
Have fun performing with no clothes by the way. Iím still puzzled by that, but I havenít had my coffee yet.
As a matter of fact my comments have been extremely kind to a fault.
For instance, I didnít leave a review on Penguin. I also didnít belabor my thoughts of a refund.
I didnít point out how easily dislodged the many removable pieces can be.
I mentioned it was bulky, but didnít make the bandolier comparison that even Marc makes.
I also focused only on the quality of the main part of the item, and didnít mention the quality of the attachment loops.
I tried to fairly share my impressions, so that others here might make a more informed decision.
Iíll say again, this is probably a fine product for some people, just not me apparently.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Apr 29, 2019 12:08PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2019, davidpaul$ wrote:
It got rave a review. They are selling it as well.
[/quote]

Well there ya go.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 29, 2019 12:16PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2019, videoman wrote:
[quote]On Apr 29, 2019, davidpaul$ wrote:
It got rave a review. They are selling it as well.
[/quote]

Well there ya go. [/quote]

Lol yup
Message: Posted by: lyoma (Apr 29, 2019 01:24PM)
252Life, is it easy to choose the card? The Advocate, another i**** is clever, and costs nothing to construct : 52 cards in a deck case. But it takes rather long to find the target card. I am looking for an i**** really practical. With Advocate, if you restrain the choice to a half of the deck, for example, juste red cards, it is relatively easy to find the card chosen by the spectator (26 cards in the case). By equivoque, you ask first the colour of the card, and if the answer is red, you continue "is it a heart ou a diamond?". If the answer is black, you say "ok. We eliminate black cards. Now there remain hearts and diamonds. Let's continue the elimination process. Do you want eliminate hearts or diamonds?". Mark Calabrase proceeds like this with his Osyn ( Only Switch You Need), which is a very visual effect. But I prefer keep the possibility of all cards without equivoque. So I probably will be not annoyed by bulkiness of the Skynet project, but I am concerned with the easiness of extraction. I also own Q: the Quantum Connection. I find it impracticable. Thank you for your help.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 29, 2019 01:43PM)
Thanks, those are great leads for me to look into.
As for the ease of finding any card with Skynet, it is easy and fast considering youíre able to wear it as meant.
Message: Posted by: lyoma (Apr 29, 2019 01:45PM)
Thanks a lot, 252Life.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 29, 2019 02:00PM)
Pleasure, nice to meet you :)
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Apr 29, 2019 10:42PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2019, 252life wrote:
I didnít misrepresent anything.
And I am an ďactual purchaserĒ.
I also donít care who's listed as having a different opinion from mine in an attempt to minimize my input.
Have fun performing with no clothes by the way. Iím still puzzled by that, but I havenít had my coffee yet.
As a matter of fact my comments have been extremely kind to a fault.
For instance, I didnít leave a review on Penguin. I also didnít belabor my thoughts of a refund.
I didnít point out how easily dislodged the many removable pieces can be.
I mentioned it was bulky, but didnít make the bandolier comparison that even Marc makes.
I also focused only on the quality of the main part of the item, and didnít mention the quality of the attachment loops.
I tried to fairly share my impressions, so that others here might make a more informed decision.
Iíll say again, this is probably a fine product for some people, just not me apparently. [/quote]

Sorry for the confusion...I didn't mean to say that YOU misrepresented the product at all. It was the interview with the creator and the other reviewers I mentioned. It's the purchasers like yourself who give their honest opinion that really answer the questions that weren't offered and make a difference whether to purchase or not so thanks!!!
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 29, 2019 11:22PM)
Lol oh my am I truly sorry!
Thatís exactly why I should avoid the Cafť until Iím awake and caffeinated.
Apologies!
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 29, 2019 11:24PM)
Kinda funny though in retrospect..
Message: Posted by: videoman (Apr 29, 2019 11:43PM)
I think the confusion came in because David quoted 252 in his post. I thought he was referring to 252 as misrepresenting as well and I was caffeinated. 😴
Message: Posted by: jerdunn (Apr 30, 2019 06:33PM)
Marc Lavelle -- when you pop back into this thread, please check your PMs.

Thanks,
Jerry
Message: Posted by: Elliot Marx (Apr 30, 2019 09:08PM)
I got this. My thoughts are mixed.

The items received seem relatively sturdy and will last.

The concept is pretty good and different, but youíre ultimately at the mercy of the clothing you choose to perform in.

That said, while I donít think this will suit everyone, it will definitely be a viable option to consider if having one of these Ďsystemsí is important to your end goals. At the end of the day an item like this will ultimately have its opportunity costs, for obvious reasons. The ad copy about pocket space is true, but the sacrifice has to be made elsewhere. Youíll need to make the call as an individual performer, but you WILL need Ďcoverí. Definite no if you donít have adequate clothing cover that will mask the required actions. I will assume for most this wonít be a deal breaker, rather, require some Ďadjustmentí.

Will I use this in favour of other known systems? Honestly, Iím unsure.

This isnít as straightforward as making a decision to slip something into your pockets and do your thing. But then again, Iím not a Ďcard workerí. Iím using this for billets.

Youíll need to make the call as to whether pocket space is more important than the commitment of working this system.

I do, however, think this would suit some people very well.

Iíd be curious to see what other people think after using it, and comparing to other systems.

Elliot
Message: Posted by: Elliot Marx (Apr 30, 2019 09:39PM)
P.s. any reviewer that states this can be performed with no clothing restrictions is plain wrong, UNLESS performing in a very controlled environment (i.e. not walk around). I would hate to purchase this with that sentiment as Iíd have been disappointed.

Just saying.

Elliot
Message: Posted by: 252life (Apr 30, 2019 10:24PM)
Nicely explained
Message: Posted by: M Pitcher (May 1, 2019 05:04AM)
I have this and I really like it.
I donít see any clothing issues to be honest.
I also think that the ďperform it nakedĒ reference from that review was referring to one specific handling that you donít ďwearĒ the gimmick.

Bests,
MP
Message: Posted by: pegasus (May 1, 2019 11:12AM)
[quote]On May 1, 2019, M Pitcher wrote:
I have this and I really like it.
I donít see any clothing issues to be honest.
I also think that the ďperform it nakedĒ reference from that review was referring to one specific handling that you donít ďwearĒ the gimmick.

Bests,
MP [/quote]

That old chestnut. Brilliant :rotf:
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (May 1, 2019 11:16AM)
I already have several different index systems (Solanoís Q; Tony Miller; Charlie Miller and Ron Wilsonís index with mods by Munari and Grippo; Tony Curtisís Kollossal Killer wallet; Dean Dill, etc), but bought this out of curiosity and the no-pocketspace feature. Not disappointed at all. This is well made, useful and different in form and function than others. If youíre willing to take it apart, there are all kinds of places you could stash this tool on or off your body.

The only downside, IMO, is the fact that retrieval is a two-step process, whereas with an index like Q itís only one step. And actually the second step here involves more finger motion than the Q-class indexes, motion that youíll either have to justify or cover with misdirection. So Iím probably going to stick with Q when pocket space allows, but am glad to have this and plan on keeping it as an alternative.
Message: Posted by: clars (May 2, 2019 12:08PM)
What is the Q-class indexes. Thanks
Message: Posted by: takeachance (May 2, 2019 04:11PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2019, clars wrote:
What is the Q-class indexes. Thanks [/quote]

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=363135&forum=109
Message: Posted by: magikmax (May 3, 2019 10:04AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2019, Elliot Marx wrote:
I got this. My thoughts are mixed.

The items received seem relatively sturdy and will last.

The concept is pretty good and different, but youíre ultimately at the mercy of the clothing you choose to perform in.

That said, while I donít think this will suit everyone, it will definitely be a viable option to consider if having one of these Ďsystemsí is important to your end goals. At the end of the day an item like this will ultimately have its opportunity costs, for obvious reasons. The ad copy about pocket space is true, but the sacrifice has to be made elsewhere. Youíll need to make the call as an individual performer, but you WILL need Ďcoverí. Definite no if you donít have adequate clothing cover that will mask the required actions. I will assume for most this wonít be a deal breaker, rather, require some Ďadjustmentí.

Will I use this in favour of other known systems? Honestly, Iím unsure.

This isnít as straightforward as making a decision to slip something into your pockets and do your thing. But then again, Iím not a Ďcard workerí. Iím using this for billets.

Youíll need to make the call as to whether pocket space is more important than the commitment of working this system.

I do, however, think this would suit some people very well.

Iíd be curious to see what other people think after using it, and comparing to other systems.

Elliot [/quote]

Having received mine, I think Elliot's comments are pretty much bang on, and largely echo my own. I don't think anyone could be more detailed without tipping the method. For my uses and my performance attire, this will be fine. I wear a three piece suit when performing close-up, and trousers, shirt and waistcoat when working parlour. My clothing is loose fitting to my preference, and this is essential to hide the slight bulk of the gimmick. If you are used to wearing skinny jeans and a tight fit t-shirt (I would look like Mick Foley in a g**p costume if I did that), you would need to consider adding a shirt or hoodie on top of this for adequate cover. It's also worth noting that the gimmick does not need to be worn, for those who perform seated or use a roll-on table etc.

On the face of it, you're either going to realise that there really is no TARDIS like gimmick that will hold a full 52 card i***x without a degree of bulk and accept and appreciate Marc's well thought-out design, or you're not going to like it and stick it in the drawer. The location of the gimmick can be customised to your preference, and depending on your clothing choices (both style and quality) you may need to experiment a little. The design is clever, and allows you to recover what you need quickly and accurately.

My number one concern when purchasing a wearable or something that attaches to the body like a p**l is whether or not it'll work just the same for a larger person like myself as the trim magician in the video, or whether I am going to have to adjust it with the magical equivalent of kilt or seat belt extenders. I can confirm that there are no such issues here.

The instructional video that comes with the SkyNet Project is ok, but could have been better. I would have appreciated more in-depth instruction on how to get said card from the gimmick to where it needs to be. I'm experienced enough to figure it out on my own, but I can see some angles being an issue for someone performing this in minimal clothing, and it would have been nice for these to have been highlighted better. Finally, while other ideas for uses of the gimmick were included, these were glanced over rather than explained in detail or routined. The routine with the bag in the video demo is explained in detail.

It might be worth mentioning (again without giving anything away) that this is definitely designed for using with playing cards. The way that the items are held is of a fixed depth and cannot be adjusted. You could use billets provided you had enough of them, folded photographs or even paper money, but the thickness needs to be the same as the cards would be when folded.

Finally, on the subject of folding - there was a bit made at the start of this thread about mercury folded cards. As far as I'm concerned, the Mercury Card Fold is a sleight, and this is not necessary at all for this. The cards are simply folded into quarters. The only sleights necessary for performance are those you would use to make a coin or sponge ball appear or disappear, and given careful handling, can be performed at leisure without any heat.

I hope that helps anyone on the fence in making their decision.
Message: Posted by: MR Effecto (May 3, 2019 10:58AM)
I think the gimmick is really well made and great idea. Works as stated. But for me not very practical . Not something I would want to wear around all day letís say. You Definitely need good misdirection to retrieve the card for me. Ended up selling mine.
Message: Posted by: MarkinMadison (May 3, 2019 11:51AM)
For people who know Looch's pocket index, how does Skynet compare? Pro's/Con's? Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Paul Forster (May 3, 2019 04:13PM)
Bought it and sent it straight back. It just isn't practical for my choice of fashion.
Message: Posted by: Waters. (May 3, 2019 04:25PM)
[quote]On May 3, 2019, MarkinMadison wrote:
For people who know Looch's pocket index, how does Skynet compare? Pro's/Con's? Thanks! [/quote]


Completely different. Really canít compare. I have both. Loochís is for the minimalist, Marcís is for the completist. I hope this helps.
Message: Posted by: lyoma (May 3, 2019 07:04PM)
In place of wearing it, can you install Skynet project under the table, like a servent? I don't have to perform standup.
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 3, 2019 07:48PM)
[quote]On May 3, 2019, lyoma wrote:
In place of wearing it, can you install Skynet project under the table, like a servent? I don't have to perform standup. [/quote]

Yes. Thatís actually addressed in the last instructional vid.
Message: Posted by: lyoma (May 3, 2019 09:59PM)
[quote]On May 3, 2019, 252life wrote:
[quote]On May 3, 2019, lyoma wrote:
In place of wearing it, can you install Skynet project under the table, like a servent? I don't have to perform standup. [/quote]

Yes. Thatís actually addressed in the last instructional vid. [/quote]

Thanks a lot!
Message: Posted by: g.albinana (May 4, 2019 08:21PM)
I think it is very dangerous to say that it is not clothing restricted...itīs a nice effect for a TV special or something like this but I donīt see this being comfortable in working conditions, even less existing way other options much more practical than this. I would do a regular Invisible Deck routine way before using this gimmick on a gig or from table to table...or If I want kind of the same approach as the one shown in the video. Adrian Vegaīs work is way more clever, effective, and powerfull in my opinion...not comercially related or something...
Message: Posted by: Craigers (May 5, 2019 11:03AM)
I just got this. I think the idea is good but I don't think I will use this in its primary intended mode. I think there will be more flexibility dividing it into two and incorporating the two halves into the inside of a jacket, either at the two sides or around the bottom.
Message: Posted by: lyoma (May 6, 2019 08:36AM)
Can somebody compare Skynet project and Miller index? I have none of them; I have just Q and The Advocate, am looking for a really practical full index of 52 cards.
Message: Posted by: patrick85 (May 8, 2019 03:44AM)
[quote]On Apr 16, 2019, Christopher Williams wrote:
Another idea, if possible, is to have a bag on the table full of blank faced cards all folded up. They name one, reach into the bag and pull one out, first reveal is it is their named card which is magical in itself. Secondly, people from the group pull out cards at random and open them to reveal they are all blank. Alternatively obviously they can pull cards out first and then you reach in and 'pull one out'. Reveal you got the named card only for them to have blanks. There will be plenty of ideas for this, sounds great! [/quote]

Hello Christopher,

Hello from France !
THANK YOU for this great idea.
Sorry, I'm not very good at the language.

cordially

Andy
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (May 8, 2019 06:01AM)
[quote]On May 8, 2019, patrick85 wrote:
[quote]On Apr 16, 2019, Christopher Williams wrote:
Another idea, if possible, is to have a bag on the table full of blank faced cards all folded up. They name one, reach into the bag and pull one out, first reveal is it is their named card which is magical in itself. Secondly, people from the group pull out cards at random and open them to reveal they are all blank. Alternatively obviously they can pull cards out first and then you reach in and 'pull one out'. Reveal you got the named card only for them to have blanks. There will be plenty of ideas for this, sounds great! [/quote]

Hello Christopher,

Hello from France !
THANK YOU for this great idea.
Sorry, I'm not very good at the language.

cordially

Andy [/quote]

You're welcome
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (May 17, 2019 05:29PM)
[quote]On Apr 28, 2019, emyers99 wrote:
Tony Miller is the king of indexes including many creative wearable indexes. Still debating skynet. Sounds interesting but I wear suits with the trabucco holdout installed on both sides so iím guessing that would be a problem. [/quote]


I had a chat with Tony after the release of Skynet (I shamefully only knew him for his amazing Wallets, not his index work!) He has some GREAT stuff that is definitely worth checking out!


[quote]On Apr 28, 2019, davidpaul$ wrote:
I wear a sport jacket with a shirt tucked in my pants. Sounds like this would not be a good fit for
me. The initial discussion before the release on this "seems" to be disingenuous. I'll save my money. [/quote]

Skynet can be attached to the inside of your sports Jacket or onto your belt, as long at you don't also for some reason tuck your Jacket in!

[quote]On Apr 28, 2019, 252life wrote:
I'm not sure how I feel about this yet.
It does limit/restrict your wardrobe choices, and is bulky.
If you tend to work sans overcoat and with a tucked in shirt, this becomes problematic.
If this is you, and you have the pocket space, a traditional i**** may be a better way to go.
Batman fans will love it though :)
I'm already considering cutting it down to a half pack, and should have waited for more reviews.
This isn't meant as a swipe at the product. I do like Marc's bag catch presentation btw, and Marc seems like a great guy for the record.
The device is well built though, and should last.
There are many removable parts, and you'd have to be fairly aware not to lose them.
For my purposes this may not be a match, but the juries still out. This is all first impressions.
Your mileage may vary. [/quote]

In that clothing configuration, I would opt to attach Skynet to the jacket!
Message: Posted by: MagicBrent (May 17, 2019 05:57PM)
I cut it in half and placed it on a belt. Plan on using this with project Polaroid. Lots of built in misdirection and the card pops from a photo.
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (May 21, 2019 07:12PM)
[quote]On May 17, 2019, MagicBrent wrote:
I cut it in half and placed it on a belt. Plan on using this with project Polaroid. Lots of built in misdirection and the card pops from a photo. [/quote]


Nice idea!

If you ever want to reassemble it, Velcro comes in handy! ;-)
Message: Posted by: indomagic (May 22, 2019 10:54PM)
Nice idea but the 2 steps retrieving card process may not so practical comparing with other index gimmick.
Message: Posted by: loserdlj (May 22, 2019 11:58PM)
Looks awesome
Message: Posted by: thecromulent (May 23, 2019 11:35AM)
I got my unit today, and it did not include a set of folded cards. The Vanishing, Inc. page says that it includes cards. I wrote to them to let them know. Just an FYI. Can't wait to get this up and running. Looks like a winner.

Evan
Message: Posted by: indomagic (Jun 2, 2019 07:58PM)
[quote]On May 23, 2019, thecromulent wrote:
I got my unit today, and it did not include a set of folded cards. The Vanishing, Inc. page says that it includes cards. I wrote to them to let them know. Just an FYI. Can't wait to get this up and running. Looks like a winner.

Evan [/quote]

I don't read in their ads that said included cards.
Message: Posted by: thecromulent (Jun 2, 2019 08:02PM)
[quote]On Jun 2, 2019, indomagic wrote:
[quote]On May 23, 2019, thecromulent wrote:
I got my unit today, and it did not include a set of folded cards. The Vanishing, Inc. page says that it includes cards. I wrote to them to let them know. Just an FYI. Can't wait to get this up and running. Looks like a winner.

Evan [/quote]

I don't read in their ads that said included cards. [/quote]

Look at questions 4 and 12 on the product page.
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Jun 10, 2019 02:59PM)
[quote]On Jun 2, 2019, thecromulent wrote:
[quote]On Jun 2, 2019, indomagic wrote:
[quote]On May 23, 2019, thecromulent wrote:
I got my unit today, and it did not include a set of folded cards. The Vanishing, Inc. page says that it includes cards. I wrote to them to let them know. Just an FYI. Can't wait to get this up and running. Looks like a winner.

Evan [/quote]

I don't read in their ads that said included cards. [/quote]

Look at questions 4 and 12 on the product page. [/quote]


Very odd! I didn't know they had said it included cards!

Hopefully they will amend that.

I typically use old decks to load the index. Recycling and all!
Message: Posted by: Tyler Lunsford (Jun 11, 2019 11:31PM)
Hey there!

I just posted a review of this on my YouTube channel!

You can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQe-T6DwHzk

I hope you find it helpful :)
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 12, 2019 12:17AM)
Good job on the review
Message: Posted by: MarcLavelle (Jul 9, 2019 06:44AM)
[quote]On Jun 11, 2019, Tyler Lunsford wrote:
Hey there!

I just posted a review of this on my YouTube channel!

You can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQe-T6DwHzk

I hope you find it helpful :) [/quote]


Thank you for a good and detailed review!

I hope this helps other people's questions!
Message: Posted by: paranormal (Jul 9, 2019 08:59AM)
[quote]On Jun 2, 2019, thecromulent wrote:
[quote]On Jun 2, 2019, indomagic wrote:
[quote]On May 23, 2019, thecromulent wrote:
I got my unit today, and it did not include a set of folded cards. The Vanishing, Inc. page says that it includes cards. I wrote to them to let them know. Just an FYI. Can't wait to get this up and running. Looks like a winner.

Evan [/quote]

I don't read in their ads that said included cards. [/quote]

Look at questions 4 and 12 on the product page. [/quote]

4 has a response that clarified it doesn't come with cards and 12 says you need to provide your own cards
Message: Posted by: thecromulent (Jul 9, 2019 09:41AM)
[quote]On Jul 9, 2019, paranormal wrote:
[quote]On Jun 2, 2019, thecromulent wrote:
[quote]On Jun 2, 2019, indomagic wrote:
[quote]On May 23, 2019, thecromulent wrote:
I got my unit today, and it did not include a set of folded cards. The Vanishing, Inc. page says that it includes cards. I wrote to them to let them know. Just an FYI. Can't wait to get this up and running. Looks like a winner.

Evan [/quote]

I don't read in their ads that said included cards. [/quote]

Look at questions 4 and 12 on the product page. [/quote]

4 has a response that clarified it doesn't come with cards and 12 says you need to provide your own cards [/quote]

Yes, they updated the page.