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Topic: TOCA
Message: Posted by: AceFace (Jun 8, 2019 05:49PM)
Hi Does anyone know anything about thought of card across by Morgan and West ? I have purchased it but not received it yet. Iíve searched online and canít find any info apart from the demo Any experience with this anyone ?
Thanks in advance
https://youtu.be/4dMDpubLmR8
Message: Posted by: John C (Jun 8, 2019 09:00PM)
Looks pretty good. Let us know how it turns out.
Message: Posted by: no2ss (Jun 9, 2019 12:14AM)
Pretty sure I know how it's done, mixing a few relatively common principles, but their version looks super clean, and super well thought out (not surprising given their previous work -- those guys are amazing). Will probably pick this up (looks like it's out of stock now) at some point in the future. You don't exactly "end clean" because of the gimmicked bits but as you can see from the performance demo, there are easy ways to effectively clean up most of the most risky bits long before the effect ends, and I'm guessing most of the "heat" is immediately focused on the card that "moved" and if you were really concerned, you could have a duplicate set ready for those who demanded to "see the cards" after the end of the effect, and you could just pull those out of your pocket rather than the actual cards.
Message: Posted by: chrom (Jun 9, 2019 01:49AM)
I just purchased this. Will give a review as soon as I get it.
Message: Posted by: chrom (Jun 23, 2019 02:57PM)
I finally received this. I will say that this is SUPER clean. Many of you can probably guess the mechanism but there is a little "extra" in the black cards that make it stupid easy to pull off. It works great in the spec's hands and as long as you pull off the one or two moves you have to do you will end super clean.

Pros : Easy to perform, very convincing, great patter included on the download.

Cons: If I had to choose one I did not like the "mechanism" for the dirty work. I will most likely switch it over to a Henry Robson product or a little SF. that's not to say it doesn't work but I want it fool proof 100% of the time.

I really like this. It comes in a nice wallet and is perfect for carry around.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jun 23, 2019 08:52PM)
I would speculate that this uses a similar method as the Destiny Deck.
I say that because I seem to recall there was a very similar effect taught on that tutorial.
Message: Posted by: chrom (Jun 24, 2019 10:43AM)
Videoman. I wouldsay beyond real magic there are only so many many ways to accomplish something. I was surprised at the methods they chose but I think they went for simple, repeatable, and easily accessable. As I stated I am going to make a few modifications to the material used but the routine itself is absolutly solid.
Message: Posted by: Calvin826 (Jun 24, 2019 03:36PM)
Holds the black cards funny, though that may not matter to the spec. Assuming 'Daughter of The King' -type cards, that's why they don't show?
Message: Posted by: davis1581 (Jul 9, 2019 12:30AM)
I have TOCA and I think its great. It is not difficult to do and gets a big response. My only suggestion is that you perform it with 2 people not one. Its one of my favourites routines.
Message: Posted by: stevefaulkner (Oct 10, 2019 08:12AM)
Hi all, Here's my review of TOCA with a 'performance'
https://youtu.be/xZVeSoo6qHQ
Message: Posted by: The Unmasked Magician (Oct 10, 2019 08:43AM)
Thatís not a ďperformanceĒ. Thatís a performance. And a nice one at that.
Message: Posted by: stevefaulkner (Oct 10, 2019 03:53PM)
That's kind of you to say. Thank you 😊
Message: Posted by: Magic KL (Oct 10, 2019 03:56PM)
Steve, I love watching your reviews. Two thumbs up!
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Oct 11, 2019 06:52AM)
Me too. 2 thumb tips up from me.
Message: Posted by: stevefaulkner (Oct 26, 2019 10:01AM)
Thanks so much :)
Message: Posted by: videoman (Dec 7, 2019 04:06PM)
Picked this up for a Black Friday discount from Card-Shark. Really like it a lot.
Fun routine, nicely made, and easy to do. I believe it will be a real fooler to boot.
Perfect for parlour or living room shows. Gets 2 spectators involved and the magic essentially happens in their hands which is always a good thing.
I would love to see it released in Phoenix parlour deck size as well.
Message: Posted by: no2ss (Dec 8, 2019 11:35PM)
[quote]On Dec 7, 2019, videoman wrote:
Picked this up for a Black Friday discount from Card-Shark. Really like it a lot.
Fun routine, nicely made, and easy to do. I believe it will be a real fooler to boot.
Perfect for parlour or living room shows. Gets 2 spectators involved and the magic essentially happens in their hands which is always a good thing.
I would love to see it released in Phoenix parlour deck size as well. [/quote]

Bah. Missed that they had a Black Friday sale! Oh well, there's always next year, I guess.
Message: Posted by: thecromulent (Dec 9, 2019 06:44AM)
I wonder if this is going to be available through other dealers. Does Card Shark usually maintain exclusivity on their products?
Message: Posted by: videoman (Dec 9, 2019 07:54PM)
[quote]On Dec 9, 2019, thecromulent wrote:
I wonder if this is going to be available through other dealers. Does Card Shark usually maintain exclusivity on their products? [/quote]

It really depends.
Typically, Card-Shark will keep it exclusive initially and then at some point begin to wholesale it. How long they keep it exclusive can vary quite a bit. I don't know of any set period of time. Perhaps when initial sales slow somewhat?

Some of their newer releases they have been selling only at conventions and not even on their website. I believe that was true for a while with David Regal's All Alone but then that went out worldwide to dealers pretty quickly.

So only Christian could say for sure when TOCA may be available through other dealers.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Dec 9, 2019 08:00PM)
TOCA owners, I have a tip to offer you.
I came up with a modified handling of the red cards that makes it even easier to do IMO.
Granted, the method taught is certainly easy enough but I think my slight change makes it even simpler and I think others might agree. So if you own the trick and are interested, feel free to PM me for my tip.
Message: Posted by: abbeylane (Mar 16, 2020 07:58PM)
Is TOCA the same as Crossed Thought by Daryl?