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Topic: Solid Cup for Shigeo Takagi one cup routine?
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 3, 2019 06:19PM)
I love Shigeo's One Cup routine. Used to perform it long time ago. In his printed routine, the final phase is that the cup is "unscrewed" into two halves, and the large ball is found inside. That's like the fourth climax. I kind of think that is overkill and he should leave it at the third climax where the cup is shown to be solid.

But that's just my personal opinion. The routine is wonderful no matter how you do it.

As I said, I used to perform the routine many moons ago. But in moving and such, the props were lost.

Does anybody know if the solid cup is still around for purchase anywhere? Would be nice to perform this routine again.
Message: Posted by: DGillam (Jul 3, 2019 09:10PM)
Steven's Magic has had these recently
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jul 4, 2019 04:08AM)
[quote]On Jul 3, 2019, DGillam wrote:
Steven's Magic has had these recently [/quote]

My brother turned 100 units of these. Steven's Magic has the exclusive on it. Stevens has both types, the break apart and the solid. These cups have been
approved by Mrs. Takagi. The sets have everything included that you need to perform the effect.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 4, 2019 04:32PM)
I'll have to check it out. I love Takagi's magic. Always a notch above.
Message: Posted by: plungerman (Aug 23, 2019 10:16AM)
You may find solid cups offered by several manufacturers to accompany their C&B sets as part of the climax. These are perfectly suitable for the One Cup routine.

I used to perform the routine but I must admit that I had a tough time believing that people would think the ball was beneath the cup. I really did it properly and they really bought it. It's one of those things where it looks bad to you but the guy next to you doing the same looks great. That is what Al Schneider's students reported to him about coin vanishes. I stopped partly because of this doubt but also for a different routine.

As with regular C&B the point of the trick is to get to the climax while showing the cup to be normal up to that point. The big ball at the end is not just the climax but the point.

I write only to point out that each time the big ball appeared absolutely everyone made an attempt to unscrew(!) the cup to get inside. As if that was part of the process of getting the ball out, which clearly it was not. After this I did follow-up by vanishing the ball back into the cup which made them more anxious to get inside. I've not seen anyone else bother to try this.

I feel sure that the ball production is the origin of the screw together cup containing the ball. As far as utility I think it is a Real let down, turning a genuine miracle into a puzzle. But as a prop it is amazing and lovely and makes a great sale. I would like to hear of people's reactions to assure me that I am mistaken about this.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 23, 2019 01:58PM)
I got to thinking I could construct my own solid cup. I could take a cup and fill up the inside to make it solid. I was thinking there was a product somewhere that consisted of liquid plastic, and I could pour it in a cup and it would harden. That would be my solid part, then I could paint it to match the cup.

I checked the local hardware store to see if they carried such a product ( I donít know what it is called,) and the guy at the hardware store had not heard of such a product, although Iím sure I had heard of it before and surely it exists somewhere.
Message: Posted by: plungerman (Aug 23, 2019 02:11PM)
I grew up using Bondo and such products for cars. These are epoxy resins mixed of two parts and used to fill dents and cavities in car bodies and fenders. You would have little trouble finding these but would have to fill a big void using a few layers or the material may crack.

Hobby Lobby and Michael's sell Alumilite which is two part for making molded parts. Something like Bondo from Nappa for cars may be cheaper in the quantity you may need. One of the parts is the hardener. The more you use the faster it hardens but the more brittle it gets. Best to use little and wait longer. It would break my heart to ruin a nice cup for this but needs must. Good luck.
Message: Posted by: Leo H (Aug 28, 2019 11:46PM)
Jake makes a nice Takagi Cup. They're reminiscent of the Takagi cups Busby sold many years ago.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Aug 29, 2019 01:33AM)
[quote]On Aug 29, 2019, Leo H wrote:
Jake makes a nice Takagi Cup. They're reminiscent of the Takagi cups Busby sold many years ago. [/quote]

Thank you Leo, but the credit goes to my brother Frederick, he does all the wood work here. He makes the cups in
both Solid and Load Chamber style. It's a great effect, but is not for a beginner unless they are willing to practice.