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Topic: Paddle Moves Done With Knives, Lighters Etc ?
Message: Posted by: warren (Jul 7, 2019 09:27AM)
I have performed The Amazing Jumping Arrow for years and have also been performing Turbo Stick for a while and was thinking of adding another paddle type trick.

Having had a look I would like to add something like colour changing knives to my repertoire, this then brings me to other similar effects such as Flash by Chad Long which although is a great effect it appears to have been made incorrectly meaning that it should have come with an all red drive to enable you to finish clean. I know that Chad later added these to his site however they are hard to come by now. You also have colour changing lighters and variations on that such as No Smoking by Jean-Luc Bertrand.

Personally when I try to do the paddle move with Bic lighters I find it a bit hit and miss due to a combination of the rounded edges on the lighters themselves and dry hands and so on to my question.

Is it easier to do the paddle move and variations of the paddle move with colour changing knives than it is with the lighters or would I encounter the same problems ?
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Jul 7, 2019 04:03PM)
I think one of the best paddle tricks are Jumping Gems with 2 or 4 sticks ( Rick Hill or Michael Baker offer them) many to watch at youtube
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Jul 7, 2019 04:08PM)
Also on your original questions if the prop is too wide , the move becomes difficult, Mogar knives are easy to handle, merrick too. Daryl's knives for instance, for me were very difficult to turn. I can not use the lighters and I sold long' sticks as well
Message: Posted by: warren (Jul 7, 2019 04:45PM)
Thanks for your input pabloinus it's much appreciated :)
Message: Posted by: marduk41162 (Jul 8, 2019 12:47PM)
For your consideration:

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Message: Posted by: warren (Jul 8, 2019 02:14PM)
[quote]On Jul 8, 2019, marduk41162 wrote:
For your consideration:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/628547017 [/quote]

Thanks I appreciated your input but I'm not really a fan of the hotrod effect as good as it is.
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Jul 9, 2019 11:41AM)
BIC Lighter? I do the Vanishing Logo with that. I also do business cards...really colorful ones work best.

Doug
Message: Posted by: warren (Jul 10, 2019 11:47AM)
In the end I was able to pick up a 4 knife Mogar Stag set second hand for less than half price with the added bonus of no import tax to pay so happy days :)
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Jul 14, 2019 07:37AM)
You cannot do better than Mogar, in my opinion.

Doug
Message: Posted by: wulfiesmith (Aug 13, 2019 03:14PM)
I am sure everyone has heard this ...

Basic Paddle effect ...
2 sides - 3 effects

Signal Paddle ...
4 virtual sides - which gives multiple colour change
Message: Posted by: Julie (Aug 13, 2019 10:29PM)
Halloween is coming. Randi Rain (sp?)--Raincloud Magic-- makes a clever paddle trick with a Vampire who vanishes after receiving a stake through his heart...

Julie
Message: Posted by: TheGladsomeBeast (Nov 2, 2019 10:15PM)
I do some paddle moves with sharpies and get great responses. You can do some great sharpies routines with it.
Message: Posted by: Pauldelafontaine (Jan 6, 2020 01:21PM)
Quit Smoking (I believe its called) by David Stone
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Jun 12, 2021 03:23PM)
This month's (June 2021) Penguin magazine has a pair of popsicle sticks for an arrow effect -- it provides no technique on how to do the move with those wide and flat popsicle sticks. Any insights? Thanks!

Phil, perplexed.
Message: Posted by: Julie (Jun 12, 2021 05:11PM)
[quote]On Jun 12, 2021, docguitarman wrote:
This month's (June 2021) Penguin magazine has a pair of popsicle sticks for an arrow effect -- it provides no technique on how to do the move with those wide and flat popsicle sticks. Any insights? Thanks!

Phil, perplexed. [/quote]

Dear Phil perplexed,

I have always found doing the paddle move with a flat object works well when I allow the paddle to come to rest on the outer side of my curled second finger as I complete the first turn. This gives a kind of base or wall that seems to facilitate making the second return turn easier.

It's a knacky thing that I may not have explained as clearly as I would have liked, but let me assure you it does work.

Julie
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Jun 12, 2021 06:32PM)
[quote]On Jun 12, 2021, Julie wrote:
[quote]On Jun 12, 2021, docguitarman wrote:
This month's (June 2021) Penguin magazine has a pair of popsicle sticks for an arrow effect -- it provides no technique on how to do the move with those wide and flat popsicle sticks. Any insights? Thanks!

Phil, perplexed. [/quote]

Dear Phil perplexed,

I have always found doing the paddle move with a flat object works well when I allow the paddle to come to rest on the outer side of my curled second finger as I complete the first turn. This gives a kind of base or wall that seems to facilitate making the second return turn easier.

It's a knacky thing that I may not have explained as clearly as I would have liked, but let me assure you it does work.

Julie [/quote]
Hi Julie,
Thanks for your reply. I'm not following your description. I was trying to hold the stick flat between my thumb and my 4 fingers held flat... just like the typical paddle hold. Can't turn it of course. I tried clipping it between my thumb and different combinations of my other fingers to facilitate the move but that was less than satisfactory. That's my problem, I can't turn it, period.

I think Penguin should have inserted a photo of how to hold popsicle sticks for the paddle move!!

Phil
Message: Posted by: Julie (Jun 12, 2021 06:57PM)
Phil,

Try holding it between your thumb and forefinger only...

Julie
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Jun 12, 2021 07:23PM)
[quote]On Jun 12, 2021, Julie wrote:
Phil,

Try holding it between your thumb and forefinger only...

Julie [/quote]

I've come up with this.

Using my right hand, I clip the stick in a shallow pinch between my index and second finger. The wide part is flat against the index and second finger. If I place my thumb on the edge I can rotate the stick slightly to the right and the wide part rests on tip of index. I place my thumb on the narrow side. The thumb can then rock the stick back and forth as it is retained by the index and second finger.

I'll post photos.

Phil
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Jun 12, 2021 07:31PM)
Starting position (get ready).
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Jun 12, 2021 07:32PM)
Thumb on edge with stick in ready position.
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Jun 12, 2021 07:33PM)
Stick rolled to right and resting slightly on tip of index finger.

Julie, Thanks for your input it helped me to try a little harder!

Phil
Message: Posted by: Mark Williams (Jun 21, 2021 08:15PM)
I may have posted this before. This is what I'm working on...[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQDAfJMFRRA[/url]


Best Magical Regards,

Mark Williams