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Topic: Legacy V2 by Jamie Badman and Colin Miller
Message: Posted by: Titanas (Jul 15, 2019 02:00PM)
From the creators of Heirloom, one of the best-selling tricks of the last decade, comes a miracle that fits in your pocket.

Having been out of stock for years, we are thrilled to be offering the updated edition of this landmark trick. This new edition includes video instructions and brand-new performances, to give you the best learning experience possible. Plus, you get all of the gorgeous props, of course.

Legacy is the kind of trick we search for as magicians. It's self-contained, can be carried with you at all times, and is engaging from start to finish. Your audience gets to know YOU and YOUR MAGIC during the effect.

The effect is simple: a story of your grandfather's greatest magic trick, performed using his original props. You remove a poker hand from his old wallet and have someone think of one of the cards in the hand. You then show that even from the grave, your grandfather knew exactly which one the participant freely picked.
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[*]Easy to do
[*]Self-working
[*]Includes all props (including the custom leather wallet)
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This is a blockbuster effect that you will be proud to carry with you.

Package includes wallet, cards, and video instructions.

More info:
https://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=58010

Best regards,
Tiranas
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 15, 2019 04:18PM)
I was so happy to get the e-mail from Vanishing Inc today. I have searched and searched for this for years to no avail. Once it went out of production it was rare as hen's teeth. It had like dissapeared from the face of the earth!

But it's baaaaaaaaaaaaack.
Message: Posted by: solidoak (Jul 15, 2019 05:23PM)
Is the selected card always the only one with a red back, or is it simply a very expensive multiple out routine?
Message: Posted by: Bill08 (Jul 15, 2019 05:35PM)
I think multiple outs, based on another video where the 4S was selected, and the prediction was written on the back of the photo
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 15, 2019 06:17PM)
Multiple outs (as modus operandi of a trick) has stood the test of time.
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Jul 15, 2019 06:54PM)
Wonderful opportunity to weave a good story. Nice looking props and I can see using this, however as it's 1-in-5, I wish it were a little more impressive. I know we all do many effects with even less (which hands, brass casket stuff and more), but do you think the impact is any less so here? Maybe it's more impressive than I think on laymen?
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Jul 15, 2019 07:03PM)
I think Killer Elite Pro has a better story plot. The wallet does not look old. For Killer Elite, they should make an updated version with newer movies though. Otherwise might as well do an ID routine.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 15, 2019 07:55PM)
I like the "ghostly" element in this one. Your dead grandpa speaking from beyond the grave. I think that is the presentational hook, here, (sets it apart) and if you can do a good job with that, you've got a quite memorable trick.

Do a trick, give 'em a few spooky chills down their spine, and they will never forget, heh, heh, heh!!
Message: Posted by: dscanning (Jul 15, 2019 09:19PM)
$40 plus shipping for a 1 in 5 prediction? I have plenty of wallets, plenty of outs and plenty of cards. I see this more like a $15 download. No thanks. I will pass.
Message: Posted by: indomagic (Jul 15, 2019 10:42PM)
I have to agree the wallet design do not match with cards and the story plot.
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Jul 16, 2019 08:44AM)
Adding the metal corners on the wallet makes it really easy to spot from the end. I think a regular Himber wallet would have been better. Just my opinion.
Message: Posted by: shomemagic (Jul 16, 2019 08:44AM)
What are the major differences between this and the original release? Thanks in advanc
Message: Posted by: jugagien (Jul 16, 2019 08:51AM)
[quote]On Jul 15, 2019, dscanning wrote:
$40 plus shipping for a 1 in 5 prediction? I have plenty of wallets, plenty of outs and plenty of cards. I see this more like a $15 download. No thanks. I will pass. [/quote]

Ditto. The effect is alright to good, nothing OMG WOW, mind exploding. For $40, it seems a bit overpriced. I'm sure the method is very clever but the effect is nothing extraordinary to drop $40. Just my opinion.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 17, 2019 06:06PM)
The only thing that would be a challenge is to get an authentic looking photo of the guy who is supposed to be your dead grandpa. I don't really know anybody who could pose for that.

Anyway, I don't need to. I placed my order.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Jul 18, 2019 12:36PM)
One in five? Really? No thanks.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 18, 2019 03:49PM)
In that case you probably wouldn't go for "Sankey's Choice," and other such similar effects.
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Jul 19, 2019 03:46AM)
Shame the wallet isn't aged to match the story and photo
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Jul 19, 2019 03:35PM)
[quote]On Jul 19, 2019, matt.magicman wrote:
Shame the wallet isn't aged to match the story and photo [/quote]
Agree. My patter is that the original wallet, as my father gave it to me, was in very poor shape and had long since deteriorated to an unsalvageable state. It had to be replaced to preserve my grandfather's items. (BTW, my version is a DIY and uses a TCC wallet that I already had).
Message: Posted by: Alex DLF (Jul 19, 2019 05:17PM)
Too bad the pictures are already written in english on the back, this is the worst move if you want to sell it internationally 😶😐
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Jul 19, 2019 05:29PM)
[quote]On Jul 19, 2019, Alex DLF wrote:
Too bad the pictures are already written in english on the back, this is the worst move if you want to sell it internationally 😶😐 [/quote]
Agree. It should be released with a blank back photo and allow buyer to write their own custom message.
Message: Posted by: JackMagic (Jul 21, 2019 08:12AM)
Looks like some dealers are running out of ideas

Itís been out of stock for years as it was never that good

Andy Nyman effect is still in stock as itís stood the test of time

Anyway thatís not sure below is the link to the original
Starts at 10:30

https://youtu.be/oFNssC-NqlY
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Jul 21, 2019 08:27AM)
[quote]On Jul 21, 2019, JackMagic wrote:
Looks like some dealers are running out of ideas

Itís been out of stock for years as it was never that good

Andy Nyman effect is still in stock as itís stood the test of time

Anyway thatís not sure below is the link to the original
Starts at 10:30

https://youtu.be/oFNssC-NqlY [/quote]

What's the name of Andy Nyman's effect
Message: Posted by: JackMagic (Jul 21, 2019 08:31AM)
[quote]On Jul 15, 2019, magicinsight wrote:
I think Killer Elite Pro has a better story plot. The wallet does not look old. For Killer Elite, they should make an updated version with newer movies though. Otherwise might as well do an ID routine. [/quote]

Have to agree Killer Elite Pro is a far superior effect all round
with Andy Nyman everything is thought out and anyone that has his book also contains additional handling ideas
Message: Posted by: mikenewman (Jul 21, 2019 07:30PM)
Interesting.
I personally donít think either is far superior than the other.
Although, I donít have Andyís book. And I 100% respect JackMagic as he obviously does.
Now I want to get that!!! Ughhhhh

Depends on your audience. I have both.
Women could care less about the killers. Especially since most have no clue who they are; so thereís no ďrelationĒ to bring them in.
If it were purses, they would relate!! 😂😂😂
Older men do love KEP. They know the movies. They get all excited talking about them. I obviously help drive the conversation. So for them, it Kills!!! 😆

Legacy is awesome. Not sure what V2 brings other than video instructions and Iím sure, new ideas. Which is totally fine by me. Why not?
Great story. Everyone has that ďuncleĒ. Ok, not everyone. You donít have to go with that story of course
It will never be dated like Killer already is. Again, for most audiences.

The wallet I have for Legacy is great. I roughed mine up. Made it look old.

Mike
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jul 21, 2019 07:36PM)
Sorry for the off-topic...But Mike Newman, didn't that cute daughter you are holding in your avatar just graduate from high school? ;)
Message: Posted by: AJ MAJIC (Jul 25, 2019 12:04PM)
Has anyone tried to age the wallet yet? I've read about alcohol as an option
but I don't think this is made of leather.
Anyway, I'm liking it and having fun creating my "story" :-)
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Jul 25, 2019 12:19PM)
[quote]On Jul 25, 2019, AJ MAJIC wrote:
Has anyone tried to age the wallet yet? I've read about alcohol as an option
but I don't think this is made of leather.
Anyway, I'm liking it and having fun creating my "story" :-) [/quote]

Aging a wallet seems like a lot of work to make it look realistic yet not ruin it too much. True it does add more atmosphere. But I use my wallet in other effects where the age doesn't matter. As above, my perhaps "lame" solution is to say the original wallet was found in an unsalvageable state. Come to think of it maybe I should age another dollar store cheap wallet (that doesn't matter), give it a few rips and shreds and toss it out during my patter as the remnants of the actual wallet that my Grandfather had.

Just some thoughts.

Phil
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jul 25, 2019 12:55PM)
Having an aged wallet is nice I guess but I don't consider it at all necessary for the effect. As docguitarman said, not having the "original" wallet seems perfectly understandable to a spectator and perhaps making it seem even less a "part" of the effect might reduce any heat on it even further.
Message: Posted by: Hervť Troccaz (Jul 25, 2019 02:56PM)
I think it would be better with 5 pictures with each time a different card, instead of a simple multi with different outputs. Too bad :-)
Message: Posted by: The Great Dave (Jul 28, 2019 08:39AM)
Picky, Picky, Picky.

A Pro knows where to go ...

Dave The Wave
Message: Posted by: drstevemagic (Aug 7, 2019 11:51PM)
[quote]On Jul 16, 2019, Paul Rathbun wrote:
Adding the metal corners on the wallet makes it really easy to spot from the end. I think a regular Himber wallet would have been better. Just my opinion. [/quote]

Got mine today and there are no metal corners on the wallet. (Less is more)
Message: Posted by: mikenewman (Aug 10, 2019 01:46PM)
[quote]On Jul 21, 2019, videoman wrote:
Sorry for the off-topic...But Mike Newman, didn't that cute daughter you are holding in your avatar just graduate from high school? ;) [/quote]

No worries. No sir. Not yet!!! Lol
She just ďgraduatedĒ elementary school. Heading to middle school.

Sheís my favorite to perform for!!!

She actually believes she has a great uncle that gambled!!! 😂😂😂
Message: Posted by: videoman (Aug 10, 2019 02:37PM)
[quote]On Aug 10, 2019, mikenewman wrote:


She actually believes she has a great uncle that gambled!!! 😂😂😂 [/quote]

Ha, ha, ha, love it!!!
Probably thinks her grandfather gave you a bunch of old coins too!!! 😁
Message: Posted by: mikenewman (Aug 11, 2019 03:06PM)
[quote]On Jul 28, 2019, The Great Dave wrote:
Picky, Picky, Picky.

A Pro knows where to go ...

Dave The Wave [/quote]


Iím confused by what you mean?