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Topic: Taking card payments as hating option.
Message: Posted by: Aus (Jul 17, 2019 06:22AM)
Hi guys

As electronic payments with bank and credit cards seem to be on rise as we move to a cashless society, I was wondering what people's thoughts were to the idea of taking card payments as a form of hating the crowd?

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Message: Posted by: D. Yoder (Jul 17, 2019 07:49AM)
I don't take card payments, but I do take PayPal and Xoom.
Message: Posted by: tom_stamm (Jul 17, 2019 11:53AM)
Zelle is an interesting option. Iím currently writing a Zelle module for a bank.
Message: Posted by: imgic (Jul 17, 2019 02:14PM)
I think folks would be leary of swiping their credit cards on a busker's phone with a Square Payment module on it. Not to mention the time it takes...would really slow down on passing the hat.

My wife has venmo and cash app set up...and folks all around use it neighborhood to pay each other for stuff. I would investigate that route...perhaps having your Venmo name posted on a sign and metion if they don't have cash they can send you payment "magically" to XXXX...
Message: Posted by: SleightlyChris (Jul 17, 2019 02:58PM)
This is pricey but you could also look into DipJar. Streamlines everything, though at 6% + 17c cc processing it's up there. However, you can set the amount for donation to any number, all they have to do is dip their card. Super easy.
Message: Posted by: gallagher (Jul 17, 2019 04:05PM)
I know 🎶..the times they are a changin' 🎶,
..but in actuality,
I haven't had any problems yet,
...with 'cash flow'.

In fact, playing three weeks straight,
in Berlin;
almost ALL restraurants had signs:
'CASH ONLY'.
Really.

I suspect things will change,
...but solutions will develope themselves.
I mean,
how will folks be able to sleep at nights,
worrying about,..
not being able to tipp their favourite Street Artist(!) ?

* The BIG change is going to come about,
when Street Performers have to start explaining their in-comes(!),
to the Tax-man(!). 😕

Anyways,..
enjoy the moment.
Life's good. 🙃
Gallagher

p.s.: Everybody hear about facecrook coming out with 'Libra'?
,...2020.
Everything,....free(!).
That'll be interesting.
Message: Posted by: Eldini (Jul 18, 2019 10:56AM)
I am going to try soliciting Venmo or PayPal cash transactions. The Square credit card swiper is totally safe, though some people still feel uncomfortable. However, I think it is simply already old technology. Might as well go straight to the payment apps. At least here in the US.

Eldini
Message: Posted by: Phil Ainsworth (Jul 18, 2019 11:25AM)
I have an iZettle card reader, which I actually purchased for pitching as I noticed fewer and fewer people were carrying cash.

It connects to your phone via Bluetooth so you do need at least a 3G signal. Itís a one-off cost of £20 for the reader and then they just take1.7% as a handling charge, the funds get deposited 1-2 days after (usually the next working day).

I donít get tips on it every single show, but I certainly get one or two card tips most shows. They always tip at least a fiver on the card as well, sometimes a tenner, so itís definitely been worth having.

If you pitch or sell merchandise (CDs etc) then Iíd say they were a necessity.

I know that iZettle are just in Europe but there must be equivalent services in the US and the rest of the world.

I think over the next 5 - 10 years it will become essential as cash dies off.

Oh, Aus, the chap in the video is a mate of mine. Heís a very nice chap!
Message: Posted by: Aus (Jul 19, 2019 02:42PM)
Phil Ainsworth another option that is similar to the izettle in the Paypal Card reader. They seem to 1.9% of the transaction as a handling charge. Other than having to buy the reader which is $99 in Australia there are no other costs.
Message: Posted by: Endless West (Jul 20, 2019 06:57AM)
I have business cards printed with my paypal and venmo addresss on them.
I also have the little QR barcode thing printed on them so they can just scan it and donít have to type anything in.
I havenít been busking the last couple of months, but I rarely handed any out anyway. I never mention cards; only cash.

You can get business cards printed so cheap at vista print, I figured it wouldnít hurt to always have some on hand.
Message: Posted by: imgic (Jul 20, 2019 06:46PM)
[quote]On Jul 20, 2019, Endless West wrote:
I have business cards printed with my paypal and venmo addresss on them.
I also have the little QR barcode thing printed on them so they can just scan it and donít have to type anything in.
I havenít been busking the last couple of months, but I rarely handed any out anyway. I never mention cards; only cash.

You can get business cards printed so cheap at vista print, I figured it wouldnít hurt to always have some on hand. [/quote]

Does Vista print set up the QR code? Or did you have to figure that out yourself?
Message: Posted by: D. Yoder (Jul 21, 2019 09:56PM)
[quote]On Jul 17, 2019, D. Yoder wrote:
I don't take card payments, but I do take PayPal and Xoom. [/quote]
I should have written PayPal and Venmo.
Message: Posted by: drmolarmagic (Aug 7, 2019 02:38PM)
I've Grown up around buskers and watching many different performers, and many years ago when credit cards could only be processed by a carbon copy of the card run through as hand slide machine, it was a common busker gag to take out the credit card Machine and slide the roller from side to side exclaiming," I also take credit cards" It was a gag because here is a performer on the street and credit cards were a "store thing", and of course no one would use credit cards to pay a busker. IT always got a great reaction form the audiences. But now with the digital age, apple pay, etc, etc. taking electronic payments is very normal. I've tried taking credit cards but as was said in the opening video people wouldn't want to swipe their cards to pay a busker as they automatically think its going to result in the theft of their credit card info. With the QR code scan that brings them to my info and paypal stuff they donate to my hat and get taken to my online info and social media etc. Its becoming more useful each year as society moves to cashless payments.
Bruce
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Aug 23, 2019 05:16PM)
I had one person, a customer in the pizza parlor I work in front of, hold up a credit card, and I had to shake my head "no." Walmart sells a card reader for your phone, but I don't know the details.
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Oct 12, 2019 03:06AM)
James James a real worker set up BuskTip.com I don't use it yet my self, on that front I don't take any card payment on the streets. Aprantly in some places its an issue. James is a good guy and this may well be the way to go.

"...James James was looking for a solution to an ongoing problem. Many audiences enjoyed his shows, but time and time again, spectators were telling him they didn't carry cash. Only plastic! No cash. Only credit or debit cards. Plastic!

Inspired what he saw others doing he set out to create Busktip.com. It worked for him right out of the gate, and in 2017 he adapted it and made it possible for others in the community to do the same. Now it's available to all, and is growing daily..."
https://www.busktip.com/
Message: Posted by: vernon (Oct 12, 2019 10:25AM)
Thanks for the mention Mario. Busktip.com is working for a few international buskers and is gaining traction. The spectators find it easy to use and we have a signup page busktip.com/register It is a custom set up for now and are working towards making it automatic.

If anyone has any questions Iím happy to help and give answers.

More information can be found at busktip.com/home
Message: Posted by: thomasR (Oct 12, 2019 06:35PM)
Iím up in Boston and the street performers here mention PayPal and Venmo as a way to tip when they do the hat lines.
Message: Posted by: Zauberman (Oct 13, 2019 09:56AM)
One thing may change with the advent of card reader/apps etal....is you'll have to claim every cent earned at tax time. Of course we all do that now anyways, right? LOL
If you make more than $20k, paypal is required to report the amount to the IRS. Recently Revenue Canada acquired all of Paypals business accounts.

Not sure how the other methods will work with regards to income tax. But I assume there will be a paper cyber trail.

Will this change busking at all ??????
Message: Posted by: kcmagic1 (Jan 9, 2020 06:08AM)
I have found a lot of people tip via venmo over paypal. I have toyed with the idea of attaching a QR code to my venmo account on my gear. Recently, I have found the Blue card. All you have to do is tap it on a smartphone and it pulls up all of your information. Very easy if someone wants to pay electronically.
Message: Posted by: Eldini (Jan 14, 2020 12:40AM)
I changed my Venmo account name to Eldini which was already on my sign.

I mention they can Venmo Eldini, point out the spelling on he sign, and it works. People get they need to add #. No need for the QR code or anything.

Eldini
Message: Posted by: Vandecarr (Feb 18, 2020 07:13PM)
I remember someone who had a QR Code, people could scan to pay online. I've never used it myself. Honestly, it's never been an issue. If they don't have money, I lose a few bucks, but in the end, it all balances out.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Feb 23, 2020 03:08PM)
[quote]On Oct 12, 2019, Mario Morris wrote:
James James a real worker set up BuskTip.com I don't use it yet my self, on that front I don't take any card payment on the streets. Aprantly in some places its an issue. James is a good guy and this may well be the way to go.

"...James James was looking for a solution to an ongoing problem. Many audiences enjoyed his shows, but time and time again, spectators were telling him they didn't carry cash. Only plastic! No cash. Only credit or debit cards. Plastic!

Inspired what he saw others doing he set out to create Busktip.com. It worked for him right out of the gate, and in 2017 he adapted it and made it possible for others in the community to do the same. Now it's available to all, and is growing daily..."
https://www.busktip.com/ [/quote]

I went there. It's telling me that my email account is already registered, but I don't remember registering an account with them! Also, it's asking for a "busker name." I don't remember putting in a busker name (but then, I don't remember putting in my email account either) so I can't get into whatever account I'm supposed to have!

:confused:
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Feb 23, 2020 03:21PM)
The Home Page simply asks me for a "busker name." What good would that do if I hadn't registered yet?

The "blog button" at the bottom of the home page has a registration form; I enter my email and first name and I'm told "this email is already subscribed." When I hit "continue," it says; "Thank you for tipping your busker." ???

At the bottom of the blog page, is another register button. When I tried to use it earlier, it told me it was blocked for security reasons.

When I tried to use it just now. It said my name "Ed Rhodes" and my email "ejay1118@yahoo.com" were already registered.

I am very confused and not feeling secure.

I'm going to my email account and see if there's something there. If there is, they didn't tell me they were sending it.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Feb 23, 2020 03:22PM)
OK, there was an email telling me how to set my password. But there'd been nothing on the website to indicate that this message had been sent.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Feb 23, 2020 03:25PM)
Here we go. I asked to reset my password, because I didn't want to use the wordsalad it gave me, it didn't ask me for a password, it just said your password is reset! Then, when I tried to log in, I got; "ERROR: Access from your IP address has been blocked for security reasons. Please contact the administrator."

I'm not getting a warm and fuzzy feeling from all this.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Feb 23, 2020 03:26PM)
There really doesn't seem to be an easy way to log into this site!

The log in page is hidden at the bottom right column of the "blog" page. (In the same column as the "register" button) Seems to me, putting it on the home page, or at lease a button where you can get to it on the home page, would be a good idea.

Also, I don't know why it's blocking me.
Message: Posted by: Zauberman (Feb 24, 2020 06:56AM)
I touched on this earlier but if you plan on using a mobile Card Reader:

You could be very well issued a Form 1099-K by the IRS. Especially if you have over 200 transactions (which is pretty easy).
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Feb 24, 2020 08:17AM)
Apparently, my phone was able to finish the registration.

The next question is, how do the spectators use it?

Also, I remember a police officer complaining the "Thank You" on my bucket was a "direct solicitation for funds!" if I have a note to go to "busktip.com," that could be problematic.

But we'll give it a try.
Message: Posted by: Nickoli Sharpe (Feb 24, 2020 08:41AM)
Howdy,
Just finished up doing a busker Fest and a great guy wacky chad was there.
I my opinion this guy has it wrapped up when it comes to talking plastic.
Really if you want to go this route look him up he will give you the low down.
He told me last year alone he took in nearly 10 grand in card payments.
Nickoli
Message: Posted by: drmolarmagic (Feb 26, 2020 07:44AM)
That's cool could you elaborate and explain what he did..... card reader? QR code? card Dip station?
thx
Message: Posted by: Nickoli Sharpe (Feb 26, 2020 10:11AM)
I donít use any of the items you mentioned. Sorry
Wacky Chad is your guy, reach out to him ďgoogleĒ
I assure you he will give you all the information you need to take plastic.
Nickoli