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Topic: Quarter-sized copper or brass coins for Stack of Halves?
Message: Posted by: karnak (Jul 31, 2019 10:42PM)
Just picked up Johnson’s Stack of Halves. Maybe it’s just me, but turning them into a stack of quarters seems somehow less than truly striking. There’s just not that much of a visual difference. Relatively subtle.

With their Stack of Quarters, which changes into a stack of pennies, not only is there a change in size, but also in color (silver to copper). It just seems to “pop” more to the eye.

So now I’m wondering: for the Stack of Halves, instead of turning them into quarters, maybe they could change into quarter-sized copper coins? Or even brass coins (especially if they had Chinese-coin-style holes in their centers)? Seems like that would pack a bit (a lot?) more punch.

Which leads to my question: what are my choices?

Can anyone point me toward specific foreign copper or brass (ideally with hole) coins that are the same exact size as a quarter? Or maybe slightly less, but certainly no more (since obviously they must fit inside my Stack of Halves, which is machined to snugly fit quarters?)

Something like a “Chinatown Quarter” might be ideal (but ungaffed, and cheap, since I’d need a small stack of them).
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 1, 2019 10:11AM)
I agree on the visual impact of the larger coins. I have always used Brass President coins or State coins. They used to come with board into which you pressed the coins
as a learning tool. Picked up as set of 50 coins for $12 on eBay.
Message: Posted by: karnak (Aug 1, 2019 02:59PM)
I rummaged around the cheap foreign coin bin at a local coin dealer, and found just what I needed: quarter-sized copper East Asian coins that look nothing like quarters.

I don't know if they're Japanese, Chinese, Korean, or what, but their denomination is "10," and a stack of them fits inside my hollow Johnson Stack of Halves perfectly.

Much more eye-popping to transform a stack of silvery Kennedy halves into a stack of copper coins bearing Chinese characters, than just into a stack of silvery quarters.

Six of them fit inside the Stack of Halves, whereas only five quarters would fit, so they're just slightly thinner.

Picked them up for a quarter ($0.25) apiece.
Message: Posted by: karnak (Aug 1, 2019 04:07PM)
For the record, a little online research identified these as Japanese 10 yen coins.
Message: Posted by: Poor dini (Aug 13, 2019 10:37AM)
East African 5 cent (I believe that’s the denomination) also the old sterling Chinese coins fit a quarter (old style shell)
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Aug 15, 2019 05:24PM)
What is the diameter of your working space in the gaff?
Message: Posted by: karnak (Aug 15, 2019 05:33PM)
Offhand I don’t know. But it’s only slightly bigger than a quarter, so whatever coins the stack turns into must be no larger than a quarter in diameter.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Aug 15, 2019 05:40PM)
Classically, the Stack of Halves and Quarters are used for the Lipzig Pride effect. Coins through spectator's hand. Johnny Thompson has very nice routine using the stack of coins, and I learned how to make a cone out of dollar bill. You can find the effect besides in Lipzig's book, in other books and DVDs.

Also the penetration of a dice or cork is an interesting change along with stack of coins. Classic version is ending with a stack of dimes. I have a silver quarter set, an English Penny stack from Supreme Magic, a Half dollar set. All work well. I even carved a wooden form cone to place in the leather cone, just like Dai Vernon explained to use as misdirection, and for the cone to keep it's shape.
Message: Posted by: karnak (Aug 15, 2019 05:57PM)
I just discovered Roger Klause’s “Whisper” variant, which is pretty cool. A penny is placed atop the stack, which goes onto the back of the spectator’s hand. The coins of the stack penetrate their hand, and when the cone (made of a dollar bill, like Bill mentioned) is lifted, the penny alone remains on their hand. A nice touch, kind of reminiscent of Ramsey’s Cylinder and Coins, in a backwards sort of way.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Aug 15, 2019 08:04PM)
Both the English Half Penney and Russian Five Kopec coins are slightly larger than a quarter. Some antique Chinese coins (and replicas) are about quarter sized though since they are molded you have to be selective or willing to grind them down a little. Please measure your gaff carefully in millimeters. Maybe the pea from a shell game setup might work for you. :)

Is this about transforming a pile of coins into something? The penetration of coins through hand (or table)? Or the puzzle of the marker? The very old coins-through-table ([url=https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=676428&forum=37]there's a thread on this and the handling[/url]) used a die. Nate Leipzig used a dime. Charles Bertram (Modern Conjuror) used a die. The Ramsay routine has two phases, and while you could do the second phase alone as a penetration ... :approve: a challenge. :)

If this is about changing a coin (or several) alone with (or without) a smaller coin on top if the pile - Steve Dusheck had some work on that effect in his Shellebration and Shell Shocked Silver items.
Message: Posted by: Poor dini (Aug 15, 2019 10:06PM)
East African nickels and English 1/2 pennies will do the job perfectly