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Topic: What to discover inside a card
Message: Posted by: flowJuggler (May 24, 2004 01:57PM)
Hi all. I have been working on a trick where either a selected card or a piece of a restored bill ends up inside another selected card.

Here are some things I would like your opinions on.

1> Is it stronger to find a previously selected card inside a second card or to find a piece of a partially restored bill from a 'failed' trick inside a card?

2> Is there anything else that you think would be novel to find inside a card?

3> Any ideas on presentation plots?

Thanks for any opinions/ideas.

-P

Also, has anyone ever heard of this happening...something being found inside a card?
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (May 24, 2004 03:15PM)
J. N. Hofzinser did something very nice with a borrowed wedding ring where the ring is discovered inside a playing card.
Message: Posted by: coolleprechaun (May 24, 2004 03:44PM)
What do you mean by "inside" the card?
Message: Posted by: flowJuggler (May 24, 2004 07:43PM)
I go through the trouble of splitting cards until I get a usable face, back, and middle. I then cut out a section of the middle layer to create a recess or hollow point. It is there that I load the piece of whatever and glue the whole thing back together. It is a bit of work.

The effect then is the card is ripped by a spectator and inside the card another card or a piece of a dollar bill is found.

I think it is a piece of strong magic to find something actually inside a card...after all, who has ever heard of something inside a card.
Message: Posted by: NJJ (May 25, 2004 02:01AM)
Why not get a blank back and black front can stick them together on three edges like a little bag. Squeeze at the top and it opens and looks a bit cleaner.

Also, the item doesn't have to be IN the card. Think about how you produce an eight ball or a baseball from a card box.

Also, how about some diamonds from the diamond.
Message: Posted by: flowJuggler (May 25, 2004 10:56AM)
Nicholas - Nice idea with the bag. I thought doing something like that originally. I feel the strength of this trick is that a card is selected, held, and then torn open to reveal something inside. Diamonds are a nice idea. Thanks.

I have performed the mechanics of this trick a couple of times and it works. A card can be chosen and held, without the inconsistency in card texture being noticed. What I hope to do is develop a killer presentation because I can't think of anything being more amazing than ripping apart a card to find another card/bill/something else inside it.
Message: Posted by: Dave V (May 26, 2004 07:09PM)
Flow,
Look for the trick (Doug Bennet's?) "Trapped" also known as "Fire Trap."

"Trapped" was done with a stack of business cards(or playing cards). Doug Henning didn't usually carry business cards with him, so he adapted it into what we now know as "Fire Trap."

I saw him do this on the Tonight Show where a borrowed quarter disappears and reappears inside the matchbook that he used to light the flash paper he used to "vanish" the coin.

The coin wasn't just inside the book, it was [i]inside[/i] the matchbook cover. He had to tear the cover apart to retrieve the coin from inside the paper.
Message: Posted by: 2bunik (May 27, 2004 12:37AM)
I think the dollar bill would be better than finding another card in a card.. my two cents
Message: Posted by: NJJ (May 28, 2004 07:41PM)
I agree a card IN a card is a little confusing. The object that appears should be unusual. Make it a $1000 bill!
Message: Posted by: Reis O'Brien (May 28, 2004 09:39PM)
A monkey!
Message: Posted by: Threee (Jun 8, 2004 04:55PM)
You can get a SIGNED coin to appear in the card by having a dupe coin you prepared switched back with the signed one.

Now that I think of it you can do this:[list][*]Prepare a card with a quarter in it[*]Then ask a spectater to borrow a quarter and have them sign it[*]Next have the pick a card from a full deck (force the quarter card)[*]Using the card as a wand vanish their quarter via the striking vanish[*]Then rip open the card to show the quarter in it[*]Switch it for their sign quarter and hand it out for examination[/list]Hope you like it.

Threee
Message: Posted by: LeConte (Jul 1, 2004 05:58AM)
A little miniature card could be found in a bigger normal-sized card. You could load a whole deck of normal cards with little minis hidden inside. Then figure out a way to use them.

The normal-sized cards would have a different number and suit than the mini card inside.
Message: Posted by: owen.daniel (Jul 1, 2004 10:34AM)
How about using the Intercessor to have a torn corner inside another card?

Owen
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Jul 1, 2004 12:58PM)
Consider a torn and restored card trick.

Where the card is torn not just in four, but into bits... but one piece flutters to the floor.

The card is resored, but missing one bit.

However, upon inspection, the card is found to be a bit lumpy... and when torn open... there is the missing bit.

That work for you?
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jul 1, 2004 01:23PM)
YIKES... what is olde is new?

In the 1960's I prepared a card by splitting it partway, left one end open, treated with rubber cement on two surfaces with a guide.

Vanished a SIGNED quarter and it was found sealed INSIDE a card that was later selected.
Message: Posted by: RBerteig (Jul 20, 2004 03:53AM)
Sort of a 2-dimensional signed bill to lemon...

I like the idea of getting something personal inside the card. Pete's idea of using a guide to load a partially completed fake is pretty good.

Perhaps you could get (pickpocket, confederate, or your favorite method) their driver's license and load that in the card? Produce a bottle of their favorite adult beverage, but demand to see ID before sharing...
Message: Posted by: Danny Archer (Aug 4, 2004 05:16PM)
I don't have the book handy, but I beleive in one of the [i]Ganson Rountined Manipulation[/i] books is an efefct where a bill appears inside a playing card ...
Message: Posted by: Aron Devin (Aug 21, 2004 12:14PM)
If you just put the rubber cement around the outer, inside edges the object you put inside it will not be stuck and you can use the card as a kind of envelope that will allow whatever is inside to slide out after you tear one of the ends. How about using a miniature card to be revealed from inside its mate. Have them sign the miniature, vanish it then secretly load it.
Message: Posted by: Taylor Dean (Jul 13, 2005 07:28PM)
Do a mind reading trick but instead finshing it, go on to a card trick and have the prediction inside of the card.
Message: Posted by: wolfsong (Jul 14, 2005 04:58PM)
I saw a coin in a business card done just the other night. The card was open like an envelope. He just vanished the coin then slipped the coin in and sealed the edge. worked very nicely.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (Mar 8, 2006 11:04AM)
MAJOR overkill if you ask me!
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Mar 8, 2006 11:23AM)
Revisiting the question of what to find "inside" a card.

I was thinking of something like this for an effect.

You have a selection signed, then make the signature vanish. However the card is now thicker, a bulge in the middle...

which when it bursts out is found to be the signed selection.

Kind of an "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" type moment. ;)
Message: Posted by: Josef K (Mar 13, 2006 02:03PM)
A) If a queen, you can perform a Caesarean and bring out a healthy baby boy mini card, maybe the next King of Hearts (which incidentally was previously forced). Cut the umbilical cord, hand out the king-to-be. It would be great if it was a custom-made cute Baby of Hearts!

b) If any court card, you could peel the clothes off… :)

c) Claim to make a bill penetrate through a deck of cards (or a single card maybe). Something goes wrong and the bill partially gets stuck inside the card.

Josef K
Message: Posted by: Aubrey de Wet (Apr 2, 2006 07:55AM)
If you want to make a whole routine out of it, you will have to be careful. I would feel uncomfortable by having, for instance, a coin signed and then made to disappear. THEN the magician picks up the cards, has a card selected and the coin found.

I like the story about Doug Henning better. The routine comes full circle back to the matchbook used to light the flash paper etc.

Also, the torn and restored card idea sounds cool. Maybe you could have your card restored, but without a piece, or mismade, (maybe without their signature...or with a fake, smudged, signature...) After taking it back, rip open the belly, unfold the card and hand the original back to them. But get rid of the other mismade one. "As if it never existed." (Just don't say that out loud.)