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Topic: Finger ring on rope behind a book.
Message: Posted by: pooofjolly (Sep 9, 2019 02:23PM)
A friend and I were discussing a ring and rope trick tonight. It was a favorite of a now deceased friend who would sit at a table, stand a hardback book up with pages pointing at him,lay both ends of a rope over each book cover (ends are visible to the audience). Then he took a borrowed finger ring behind the book and made to join the ring and rope (with hammer, torch, grinder, etc). The finale is the rope ends are cleanly lifted and the undamaged ring is now on the rope.
Is anyone familiar with this plot or know the name of this trick? It might have used a string, but we think a rope. Fred Kaps has something similar in his Magic Circle lecture "Its so simple" but that is a ring off rope... not on the rope.
Its not sefalagia because the two ends are picked up at the same time.
Does this ring a bell for anybody?
Message: Posted by: Leo Reynolds Jr (Sep 10, 2019 09:00PM)
Https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=643476&start=0 Look Here.
Message: Posted by: dalo (Sep 23, 2019 06:37AM)
De Cova has a Wonderfull routine with a borrowed ring a BL glass and a hat that I can strongly recommend

D
Message: Posted by: rowdymagi5 (Sep 23, 2019 08:00AM)
Where can one find DeCova's routine?
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Sep 23, 2019 09:26AM)
Rowdy, some members take exposure very seriously, and do not like to link magic on an open forum. I have listed two websites you can look though the contents and to look for dalo's reference.


https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magician/Alexander-De-Cova/


http://www.penguinmagic.com/s/Alexander+De+Cova
Message: Posted by: rowdymagi5 (Sep 23, 2019 09:46AM)
Thanks Bill!
Message: Posted by: dalo (Sep 29, 2019 02:26PM)
I can really recommend all tre DVDs

De Cova has a lot of good routines and original thinking.

Thanks for the help with the links Bill.

D
Message: Posted by: rowdymagi5 (Oct 2, 2019 04:09AM)
DeCovas routine is totally different than the effect which is the subject of this thread.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Oct 2, 2019 04:36AM)
I remember seeing a video someone shared here in the Café of Dean Dill doing something as the OP described. In the video, Dean's two helpers were his son and his sons girlfriend. I can not find that video again.
Message: Posted by: papawemba (Oct 2, 2019 06:00AM)
[quote]On Oct 2, 2019, Wravyn wrote:
I remember seeing a video someone shared here in the Café of Dean Dill doing something as the OP described. In the video, Dean's two helpers were his son and his sons girlfriend. I can not find that video again. [/quote]

Probably this one : https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1963982333871500
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Oct 2, 2019 06:18AM)
That's it papawemba. Thank you.
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Oct 5, 2019 01:41AM)
This is another one https://youtu.be/FBlkPR20Mck
Message: Posted by: papawemba (Oct 7, 2019 07:27AM)
[quote]On Oct 5, 2019, vinsmagic wrote:
This is another one https://youtu.be/FBlkPR20Mck [/quote]

wow it's a stunner ! Can't see if the ring is really on the rope though, but I guess it is. No the same as Dean Dill's method.
Thanks Vinny
Message: Posted by: John Long (Oct 8, 2019 09:22PM)
[quote]On Oct 5, 2019, vinsmagic wrote:
This is another one https://youtu.be/FBlkPR20Mck [/quote]

This one looks more direct than Deans, but I'm not sure if he ends as clean as Dean's method.

Does anyone know what happened to the performer? I forget his name but he used to own an online magic store.

John
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Oct 10, 2019 11:28PM)
I think he f is from England
deans trick is done with slight of hand this trick I posted m sure ism not.
this is a store bought effect and I believe it sold for 19 American DOLLARS
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 20, 2020 10:24AM)
Today, I visited the Facebook page for illusion works. The have at the top of the page the Dean Dill video referenced. A finger ring seemingly penetrates a cotton string behind a book. This effect is very old, and is published in some very old magic books. I can't reference it now, but I remember seeing it as a teenager.

This video was made to entertain magicians and fool them by using a different method. Assuming the video is posted on Illusion.Works Facebook page, as advertisement for their new style Himber Ring. Dean Dell used this ring in a video previously with the Dean Box. I believe this solves the mystery.
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Apr 22, 2020 03:14AM)
JOHN LONG IF U WANT THE HANDLING OF THE ENGLISH GUY PM ME,,,,,,, I HAVE THE EFFECT IT IS TERRIFIC GETS GREAT Re Actions

ALSO ILL GIVE U DEANS VERSION , IF U READ Slydini IT CANT BE DONE....... DEANS VERSION IS THE BEST THOUGH
VINNY
Message: Posted by: Muswellgull (Apr 23, 2020 07:30AM)
Hi Vinny,
I was fortunate enough to see Dean perform this at his Shoppe on several occasions. I had always assumed it was the Slydini effect?!
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 26, 2020 08:29AM)
I don't think it is worth having to buy a $700.00 finger ring just to do this magician fooler.
Message: Posted by: rowdymagi5 (May 8, 2020 09:45PM)
[quote]On Apr 22, 2020, vinsmagic wrote:
JOHN LONG IF U WANT THE HANDLING OF THE ENGLISH GUY PM ME,,,,,,, I HAVE THE EFFECT IT IS TERRIFIC GETS GREAT Re Actions

ALSO ILL GIVE U DEANS VERSION , IF U READ Slydini IT CANT BE DONE....... DEANS VERSION IS THE BEST THOUGH
VINNY [/quote]
Where can one find these two effects? Are they available commercially or in a book?
Message: Posted by: John Long (May 9, 2020 08:47PM)
Rowdy:

Links to performance videos were posted some earlier thread; I don't know the source for the explanations.

John