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Topic: New Ammar Deluxe Cups
Message: Posted by: Christopher Moro (Dec 19, 2019 02:28PM)
Michael Ammar has new cups on the market. Out of fun curiosity, has anyone used them?
https://store.ammarmagic.com/miamdecuandb.html?mc_cid=3714a65537&mc_eid=d00b895b88
Message: Posted by: BobMc (Dec 19, 2019 03:00PM)
I think they look great and the price seems reasonable to me. It sounds like they are CNC cups. It looks like there is a chance it will hold a tennis ball based on the dimensions, but since he doesn't specify a tennis ball, I am not sure.

Height: 3 inches
Width: 3 inches (mouth, exterior edges) / 2.75" (interior)
Message: Posted by: Christopher Moro (Dec 19, 2019 07:25PM)
Good point. They are larger than a Paul Fox but it doesn't specify the final load capacity.
Message: Posted by: wsgumby (Dec 21, 2019 04:13PM)
These are actually the Artistic Cups and Balls 2 and are very similar to the original A.C.A.B. except they are lighter in color and have slightly thicker beads. They will hold a tennis ball. They came with light blue balls and a green drawstring bag. These are nice heavy cups that could have been priced a lot more.
Message: Posted by: kcmagic1 (Jan 9, 2020 08:41PM)
A 2.75" opening will fit a tennis ball. 3.0" a baseball and 3.375 - 3.5 a naval orange
Message: Posted by: kcmagic1 (Jan 9, 2020 08:43PM)
I should add, 2.625" a lacrosse ball I believe. If I am not mistaken, the Paul Fox cups have a 2.625 mouth opening. I am not 100% on that but I believe that is correct
Message: Posted by: mcmc (Jan 10, 2020 11:00AM)
Thanks for the pointer that it's the ACAB2.

Here's the dimensions from Vanishing Inc.:
Outside Diameter - 2 13/16"
Inside Diameter - 2 5/8"
Outside Height - 3 1/8"
Inside Height - 2 3/4"
Message: Posted by: karnak (Jan 10, 2020 03:03PM)
Lacrosse balls vary in size, just enough to have made it impossible for me to find any that fit my Paul Fox cups. I took my cups to sporting goods stores and tried balls out in person. Big fail.

See: https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?forum=115&topic=288972#3
Message: Posted by: BSutter (Jan 10, 2020 04:44PM)
[quote]On Jan 10, 2020, karnak wrote:
Lacrosse balls vary in size, just enough to have made it impossible for me to find any that fit my Paul Fox cups. I took my cups to sporting goods stores and tried balls out in person. Big fail.

See: https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?forum=115&topic=288972#3 [/quote]

It is a hit and miss game. Been there myself. Keep searching.
That is all.
Message: Posted by: kcmagic1 (Jan 10, 2020 04:52PM)
Maybe a lacrosse ball was an overstatement? I thought they were 2.625". Either way, it is too small of a load size!! In my opinion
Message: Posted by: Rainboguy (Jan 13, 2020 11:15AM)
Anything Michael Ammar sells is"GOOD STUFF".

The cups look nice to me and, handling-wise, at nearly two pounds for the set of three, I imagine they feel "just right" for most cup workers.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jan 26, 2020 02:11AM)
Maybe there is a "season" for lacrosse. I don't know. A few years ago, just about the time I made that post about the size of lacrosse balls, I purchased several dozen lacrosse balls from various sources. Some I got from mail order houses, others from sporting goods stores. As I heve mentioned in several posts on the Café, the sizes have varied quite a bit since the manufacturers started getting them from China.

Who made your Paul Fox cups?


[quote]On Jan 10, 2020, karnak wrote:
Lacrosse balls vary in size, just enough to have made it impossible for me to find any that fit my Paul Fox cups. I took my cups to sporting goods stores and tried balls out in person. Big fail.

See: https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?forum=115&topic=288972#3 [/quote]
Message: Posted by: karnak (Jan 26, 2020 10:37AM)
[quote]On Jan 26, 2020, Bill Palmer wrote:
Who made your Paul Fox cups?
[/quote]

Rings-n-Things 2.

[quote]
As I heve mentioned in several posts on the Café, the sizes have varied quite a bit since the manufacturers started getting them from China.
[/quote]

So much so that I couldn't find any that fit (and I went through a big bin-full at a local large sporting goods chain store).

But I don't really mind. For final loads, I instead decided to invest in Michael Ammar's Fab Fruit.
Message: Posted by: alexhui (Feb 5, 2020 03:11PM)
Here is my in-depth review of Michael Ammar's Deluxe Cups & Balls (AKA Artistic Cups & Balls v2):
https://youtu.be/6rvnhCUeFTc

Hope you like it.



Alex Hui
Hong Kong
Message: Posted by: ekins (Feb 5, 2020 09:10PM)
[quote]On Feb 5, 2020, alexhui wrote:
Here is my in-depth review of Michael Ammar's Deluxe Cups & Balls (AKA Artistic Cups & Balls v2):
https://youtu.be/6rvnhCUeFTc

Hope you like it.


Alex Hui
Hong Kong [/quote]

Alex, You're video is set to be private so I'm unable to access it.
Message: Posted by: alexhui (Feb 5, 2020 10:28PM)
[quote]On Feb 6, 2020, ekins wrote:
[quote]On Feb 5, 2020, alexhui wrote:
Here is my in-depth review of Michael Ammar's Deluxe Cups & Balls (AKA Artistic Cups & Balls v2):
https://youtu.be/6rvnhCUeFTc

Hope you like it.

Alex Hui
Hong Kong [/quote]

Alex, You're video is set to be private so I'm unable to access it. [/quote]

I have fixed it. Sorry for that.

Alex Hui
Hong Kong
Message: Posted by: Daniel A. Day II (May 31, 2020 01:32PM)
I just got my set from Mr. Ammar on Friday. The cups are big and heavy, which I like.

I was able to fit a tennis ball in a cup.

I was also able to fit a lacrosse ball in a cup.

I was also able to get three of the 1” balls to nest on top of a cup covered with another cup without any wobble.

It is a very nice set.

Regards,
Daniel
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Oct 4, 2020 12:14AM)
Has anyone been using these in shows for awhile and beating on them?

I know that might be hard these days, but thinking about getting a set of these and wondering if they have gotten deformed at all after using them for some time.

The Michael Ammar store and the TCC site says that these are made from solid brass, not copper, but the review says that they are copper. Does anyone know for sure?

Has anyone actually weighed the cups? I'm curious if there was any difference in the weight of each cup.

What actually changed between version 1 and 2? I saw above that it said it's a lighter color and thicker beads. Was there anything else?
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Oct 12, 2020 10:10PM)
Actually the copper version is the ACAB 2 plated in copper, not solid copper like the ad implies. The cups are beautiful, equally weighted, most likely due to the CNC machining which
is flawless in all 5 sets I own. I'm a little late catching cup fever :)

You can't go wrong with these for the price and as worker cups.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Oct 13, 2020 03:58PM)
[quote]On Oct 12, 2020, Mad Jake wrote:
Actually the copper version is the ACAB 2 plated in copper, not solid copper like the ad implies. The cups are beautiful, equally weighted, most likely due to the CNC machining which
is flawless in all 5 sets I own. I'm a little late catching cup fever :)

You can't go wrong with these for the price and as worker cups.

Jake Jr. [/quote]

Thanks!
Message: Posted by: MagicVin (Dec 8, 2020 03:07PM)
I have them and I love them holding up well so far!