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Topic: Close up pad/mat comparison advice?
Message: Posted by: MagicVin (Mar 5, 2020 12:07PM)
I'm trying to pick the best close up pad/mat. I'm mostly going to be doing the cups and balls, chink-a-chink, some cards, some coins, and maybe 3 shells. Seems like most people in the threads I have read recommend one of a few brands so I'm hoping someone has more than one and can compare some of them. Also let me say I know I'm sure there are others out there but I'm not looking to spend top of the line money. Some of the main brands that people are recommending that I have been looking at are; https://www.pattricksmagic.com/magical-mats , https://www.murphysmagic.com/product.aspx?id=61151 , https://www.tccpresents.com/collections/accesories/products/leather-pad?variant=30722856812589 , https://www.propdog.co.uk/Propdog-Close-up-Pads , I'm open to any advice reviews or recommendations anyone might have. thanks in advance.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Mar 9, 2020 08:59AM)
The Gibson Close-Up Pad has always been the recommended pad for magic performances.

https://tricksupply.com/woocommerce-search/keyword/Gibson/search-in/product/cat-in/all/search-other/product,p_sku
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Mar 9, 2020 01:03PM)
I really like the pad I purchased from Patrick. Top notch service and close up pad to match. Don't be shy in contacting him and asking questions, he is helpful.
Message: Posted by: MagicVin (Mar 9, 2020 05:00PM)
Thanks for the input Bill thatís a name I hadnít heard yet.Wravyn mind if I ask which one you got & what material?
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Mar 10, 2020 11:24AM)
For myself, I purchased a pocket mat
https://www.pattricksmagic.com/store#!/Pocket-book-7-in-X-4-in-Closed-7-in-X-8-in-Open/p/79638613/category=0

I don't like to take up a lot of space and this size works well for me. I have used a standard size mat from Patrick that a friend has, which is the same material as the pocket mat and it was what sold me on getting mine.
Message: Posted by: Jonmaddgician (Apr 2, 2020 02:25AM)
I've got the TCC mat & it's pretty amazing for how little they cost! Really nice smooth feel on the soft side, & sleek faux leather on the hard side. Very tastefully done.

If you got money to splash though, I just came across these... https://www.newtonwoodcraft.com/store/c710/Magicians-close-up-pads

WOW! <3
Message: Posted by: MagicVin (Apr 7, 2020 08:11AM)
Those are beautiful Jonmaddgician bit more than I'm looking to spend at the moment but maybe down the line. I think I'm stuck between tcc and pattricks now I just need to choose and pick a color
Message: Posted by: Jonmaddgician (Apr 7, 2020 11:23PM)
[quote]On Apr 7, 2020, MagicVin wrote:
Those are beautiful Jonmaddgician bit more than I'm looking to spend at the moment but maybe down the line. I think I'm stuck between tcc and pattricks now I just need to choose and pick a color [/quote]

Yeah definitely out of my budget atm as well, especially with no more gigs lined up until after this Covid-isolation situation blows over...
Still, probably one of the most beautifully made tables I've seen on the market so far...

As for mats, I have the TCC mat, & it is also very nicely made, especially considering the very affordable pricing!
Unfortunately, can't seem to fold like Patrick's though. I don't own one so I can't speak for the quality, but the general consensus is that it seems to be the people's choice.

TCC mats just haven't been around that long enough to establish that kind of word of mouth credibility though.
Message: Posted by: MagicVin (Apr 8, 2020 01:38AM)
I just have a sneaking suspicion that Iím going to wish the tcc pad was just a touch bigger, also leaning towards the green and they seem to be unavailable
Message: Posted by: Jonmaddgician (Apr 14, 2020 10:29PM)
[quote]On Apr 8, 2020, MagicVin wrote:
I just have a sneaking suspicion that Iím going to wish the tcc pad was just a touch bigger, also leaning towards the green and they seem to be unavailable [/quote]

Have you tried direct from the TCC website? ;)
https://www.tccpresents.com/collections/accesories

They have green in 3 sizes;
Small is 30x20cm
Medium is 40x27cm
Large is 50x34cm
Message: Posted by: MagicVin (Apr 14, 2020 11:45PM)
Thanks for the link. Yea the large is the one Iím worried Iím going to want just a bit bigger lol
Message: Posted by: yin_howe (Jun 5, 2020 08:27PM)
TCC is running a Kickstarter on a new 'luxury' mat (different surface fabric)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1853036486/luxury-close-up-bag-and-luxury-pad-by-tcc-presents?ref=section-homepage-view-more-recommendations-p1
Message: Posted by: Helivian (Jun 9, 2020 05:27AM)
Have you considered the V&B pad from Vanishing inc?

https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/close-up-pads/

or on the website from V&B

www.vorstandbosch.com
Message: Posted by: Sideshow Rod (Jun 24, 2020 05:11PM)
The TCC wood backed board are excellent. The price is very good and the quality is superb.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jun 27, 2020 12:52PM)
Before ordering a V&B pad, I recommend reading my comments here (particularly my reply dated June 27, 2020):

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=715135&forum=113

Mark
Message: Posted by: Jonmaddgician (Sep 15, 2020 08:59PM)
Just received my Kickstarted TCC luxury pad to add to my other 3 TCC pads. The larger size is exactly what I wanted in the first place, although certainly much less portable compared to the medium sized ones. The embossed surface texture is lush & absolutely stunning to look at, albeit distracting perhaps compared to the stark plainness of a standard smooth felt mat. Might have to think about the back design of cards that you might be using a little bit more, or the ball selection in any cup routine. Not a huge deal, but just nuances to consider.

I'm sure there are higher quality bespoke close up mats in the market, but I don't think anyone can beat TCC in the price/quality ratio at the moment... /2c.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Oct 24, 2020 10:20AM)
[quote]On Mar 9, 2020, MagicVin wrote:
Thanks for the input Bill thatís a name I hadnít heard yet. Wravyn mind if I ask which one you got & what material? [/quote]


Gibson Close-up pads have been around for 30 or more years. They are the choice of many magicians. Comes in many sizes and colors, and very reasonable prices.

tricksupply.com has them in stock.
Message: Posted by: fingerjack (Jan 25, 2021 09:38PM)
Hi. So a tad off topic, but Iím hoping someone can relate to this. There are basically two different feels to pads. I donít claim to know the exact materials. What I do know it this: One kind it soft to the touch, not shaggy, but smooth and comfortable. The other is, and the one I have most often experienced, may look nice and are well built, but there is ďsomethingĒ about the texture that is completely different from the one I described above. It instead has tiny fibers that snag the slightest of dry skin, like dishpan hand in a way. Running my hand across it snags tiny bits of dry skin that make me cringe, but on my superior pad, no such problem exists.

Can anyone relate to this, and if so, can you please explain the difference in fabrics so I can stop wasting money and annoying dealers on commercial stuff that makes me feel like a need a tube of OíKeefís hand creek so I wonít snag a bloody hangnail? I wish I could remember who crafted my last beautiful pad. It is large, black, plush.... made by a gentleman who solid on small qualities. It was $80 about 7 or 8 years ago and took a hell of a beating and stool feels great. Just getting a bit worn. I wish I could remember the personís name. Can anyone help a fella out here?
Message: Posted by: pattrick (Mar 1, 2021 09:26PM)
The first mat you described is a velveteen ( which I donít care for) or an upholstery velvet ( much nicer). This has individual strands that stand in and move with your touch. This is why sometimes you see a trail from your fingertips on the mat. This material feels great. The other mat has tiny loops of material which gives it cushion as the loops are depressed. Think tiny sturdy rubber circles that bend and flex. This material is pretty sturdy. It is these little loops that catch on your skin rough spot or little hangnail. This mat helps to remind you to manicure often. This material works well in restaurants table hopping as it cleans nicely. This type mat also rolls better if you need to do that. I carry both material at www.pattsmatts.com I hope this made sense.
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Apr 2, 2021 07:42PM)
Is anyone aware of a billfold type close-up pad. That is, it looks like a Jewelers Pad but maybe a little smaller. The idea being you pull a wallet, open it up and now a close-up pad.

Steve
Message: Posted by: pattrick (Apr 4, 2021 07:34AM)
Steven, look at www.pattsmatts.com there is a short video on the home page that explains folding mats and another video that explains the performing materials. On the website there are two smaller folding mats. The pocketbook mat and The Born Book mat. For something larger you can select any mat and select the folding mat option to create the bi folding and tri folding options. Either way the folded mat is half the size of the open mat. We also are introducing a new Sam Allen hard back mat and carry case. You will need to use info@pattsmatts.com for details. Hope this helps.
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Apr 4, 2021 11:23AM)
Perfect.

Thanks

Steve
Message: Posted by: Rainboguy (May 7, 2021 07:01PM)
I have 3 Trevor Duffy Closeup pads (14x18).

Best closeup pads I have ever used. If they wrinkle or get soiled, wash 'em, let them dry, and they are good as new. HIGHLY recommended!
Message: Posted by: Doc Willie (May 8, 2021 05:44AM)
Another choice: A microfiber dish drying mat. Only $1 at a dollar store, 2 or 3 at a large discount store (these tend to be larger and nicer colors or patterns). Advantage: can fold or roll up very tight. Disadvantage: may not be the texture or firmness you prefer. If you have a mat, you could carry one as a backup or impromptu mat.
Message: Posted by: EZrhythm (Jun 1, 2021 11:27PM)
[quote]On May 7, 2021, Rainboguy wrote:
I have 3 Trevor Duffy Closeup pads (14x18).

Best closeup pads I have ever used. If they wrinkle or get soiled, wash 'em, let them dry, and they are good as new. HIGHLY recommended! [/quote]

If you can find them in stock ;-)
Message: Posted by: EZrhythm (Jun 1, 2021 11:29PM)
[quote]On May 8, 2021, Doc Willie wrote:
Another choice: A microfiber dish drying mat. Only $1 at a dollar store, 2 or 3 at a large discount store (these tend to be larger and nicer colors or patterns). Advantage: can fold or roll up very tight. Disadvantage: may not be the texture or firmness you prefer. If you have a mat, you could carry one as a backup or impromptu mat. [/quote]

Funny thing! I saw this and went to look at my drying mats. Unfortunately they are not a color I would want in a mat but interesting idea.

Another surface type that hasn't been mentioned unless it went over my head is card/poker table surface or Black Jack/Craps mat. I personally don't like this type of surface and I don't like it when magic dealer's close-up pad adds don't mention it when the particular pad has such surface.

I have a folding version made by Pattrick and it has been my favorite. Thank You, Pattrick!
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Jun 13, 2021 05:48PM)
Any suggestion as to which of Patrick's mats would be best for the 3 shell game? My current mat is one of the 'standard' mats available from Murphy's, and doesn't have enough 'give'. A vague request, I know, but any input would be appreciated.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jun 14, 2021 06:18PM)
[quote]On Jun 13, 2021, rosariorose9 wrote:
Any suggestion as to which of Patrick's mats would be best for the 3 shell game? My current mat is one of the 'standard' mats available from Murphy's, and doesn't have enough 'give'. A vague request, I know, but any input would be appreciated. [/quote]
Contact Pat. He is a true gentleman and is an honest businessman.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Jun 14, 2021 06:29PM)
Thanks, Wravyn, will do.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Jun 15, 2021 11:36AM)
Just spoke with Patt. What a nice guy! Ordered a tri-fold black plush mat. Thanks again, Wravyn.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Jun 20, 2021 09:06PM)
Received my mat yesterday. Trifold plush, original material. A thing of absolute beauty, and a pleasure to do business with Patt. My shells love this mat! :) Thanks again, Wravyn for suggesting that I call Patt.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jun 27, 2021 06:08AM)
Most welcome. :)
Message: Posted by: theoriginalman (Jul 20, 2021 03:42PM)
I'm looking for a good close up pad that I could use specifically for "The Moon" and general cars coin work.
Message: Posted by: Griffin Barry (Sep 7, 2021 03:46PM)
Close-Up Pads

Throughout the past two years people have been messaging me about Close-Up pads, I studied with Dean Dill for 8 years until his passing. Before he passed away he taught me and my Father how to make them. I am happy to announce they are now available!!!! They also are more affordable for the quality and durability. I had 25 Pads and brought them to magic live 2018 and they sold out instantly. Since then many people have been asking about them. We also have some new unique patterns that are available. Shoot me a message and I can send pictures! If anyone is interested feel free to shoot me a text (661)309-8719 or email @mbarry@socal.rr.com
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