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Topic: Multiplying candles - length?
Message: Posted by: George Alexander (Mar 31, 2020 01:13PM)
Hello wise Cafť members

I am currently using a set of Tim Star (Lloyd style) candles, which are fantastic but I find they are a bit too big (too long) for my hands.

The Owen candles look shorter, but I can't find the measurement anywhere.

Could any owners of the Owen style candles please tell me the length of the main (longest) candle? Tim Star's version is 4 inches long.

This would be very helpful.

Thanks in advance and hope everyone is taking care in these testing times!

Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 15, 2020 05:14PM)
I don't understand what you mean by the length. The length has nothing to do with the working of the candles. Tim Star's candles are nothing like the Lloyd Candles. Owens is closer to the Lloyd's candles, but thicker walls and a lot heavier. Also Lloyd and Owens candles fall apart if let to burn to long. There are finger clips on either. So they are more difficult to keep between the fingers. The spring activated pair, have a tendency to knock them out of your hands.

Here is Tim Star's act, you can see him perform his 4 and 8 Multiplying Candle act. This is a totally original act, not the anything like his competition act he performed and won all his awards. It was a very short act with his candles and very original and stunning dove manipulation.

Message: Posted by: George Alexander (Apr 15, 2020 06:14PM)
Thanks Bill.

Actually the length is important for Timís candles. One of the moves, in particular, involves briefly completely covering a candle with your hand. If your hands are too small, it is very easy to flash.

I have received a reply from Tim saying he can make them any length required, so I will just ask for some to be a little shorter (half or 3/4 of an inch) than the regular candles he makes. Timís candles are fantastic.

Take care

Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 15, 2020 10:11PM)
George, I know, I have the Tim Star four candle set, and have used them. The covering you mention is not a slow move movement, so no chances of being burnt. You just put your hand in front of the candle, finger pointing down, and wrist bent over the top, the hand is continuously move upward.

I also have the famous Morgan 8 candle set like Lance Burton used.

And another set that is a copy of Lloyd's candles. I took them apart to try and get them to work properly, but no success yet.

Did Tim Star tell you have his candle holders, they are great and you should get a set. Just ask him, he told me about them and I am very happy I ordered them. Then you can perform the candles at any point in your act.

Also instead of lighter fluid, you should get a bottle of Smokeless Lamp Oil, restaurants use them for the light on customers tables. Don't have to worry about setting off any sprinkler systems. It does not evaporate as fast either as lighter fluid.
Message: Posted by: George Alexander (Apr 16, 2020 08:49AM)
Thanks for the tips Bill. I will ask about the holders.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 18, 2020 10:53AM)
Tim Star told me about the holders, and lamp oil use. Good he did, as I was presenting the effect in one of my shows, and the guy that hired me, seen the candles, he pointed to the ceiling, I looked up and seen the sprinkler system right above my head. So that made me order the smokeless lamp oil.