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Topic: Picasso Pro App ||ProMystic x Ellusionist
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 11:44AM)
Hey,

Myself, Tom Elderfield and ProMystic have been working hard for the past few years to take the world renouned 'Picasso' routine from ProMystic's fantastic Color Match release and make it into an Every Day Carry. In the form of an app.

We are proud to announce that this is availbale to download on iOS or Android [i]today.[/i]

[url=https://www.ellusionist.com/picasso-pro.html]Picasso Pro App ||iOS & Android[/url]

[youtube]v=5-O5oLcv5C4[/youtube]

You can download Picasso right now. [url=https://www.ellusionist.com/picasso-pro.html]Picasso Pro App ||iOS & Android[/url]

[b]*Please make sure you read the Ellusionist page before picking this up.[/b]


Cheers,
Lloyd
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Apr 29, 2020 11:49AM)
Will pick this up.
Looks fun and always been a fan of this routine.
Message: Posted by: Johnsypoppins (Apr 29, 2020 11:49AM)
Be careful if you purchase from the App Store without going to Ellusionist first or youíll make the same mistake I made with the user ID 😬
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Apr 29, 2020 12:01PM)
Are they hinting you want a performer ID that is user friendly? Simple? Something like your name you want/prefer to be shown?
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (Apr 29, 2020 12:02PM)
Looks great. Purchased it. Can't get it to start, crashes on Android immediately (Samsung S8). The login page opens, but if I try and switch to it, it crashes. Phone software is up to date.
Message: Posted by: cardbiker (Apr 29, 2020 12:13PM)
Can you explain more about the purchase procedure please
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 12:15PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, MarvinSanRemo wrote:
Looks great. Purchased it. Can't get it to start, crashes on Android immediately (Samsung S8). The login page opens, but if I try and switch to it, it crashes. Phone software is up to date. [/quote]
Thanks for the heads up. We have tested this on an S9 and it works great. We are aware that Android software can sometimes get unstuck on Samsung but our developer is on the case as we speak.

Thank you!
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 12:19PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, cardbiker wrote:
Can you explain more about the purchase procedure please [/quote]
Sure!

Basically, the instructions are on this page [url]https://www.ellusionist.com/learn-picasso-pro[/url] but to view them you need to have the app downloaded (from either the iOS App Store or Android Play Store) and have registered an acccount. Just note, that your ID will become your unique URL. As in if your ID was 'Pencil', your unique site would look like this www.Q*********.co/pencil. We just wanted people to understand that before making a URL which they're not happy with before hand : )

Hope this helps!
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Apr 29, 2020 12:19PM)
Oh the joys of having an iPhone. :rotf:
Message: Posted by: MagicallyMe (Apr 29, 2020 12:20PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Johnsypoppins wrote:
Be careful if you purchase from the App Store without going to Ellusionist first or youíll make the same mistake I made with the user ID 😬 [/quote]

Can you please elaborate? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 12:20PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Nathan Alexander wrote:
Are they hinting you want a performer ID that is user friendly? Simple? Something like your name you want/prefer to be shown? [/quote]
That's exactly it, Nathan.
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 12:22PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, pegasus wrote:
Oh the joys of having an iPhone. :rotf: [/quote]
It works on both iOS and Android. The spectator can use any phone they like. Or computer. Or tablet.

: )
Message: Posted by: Arthur T (Apr 29, 2020 12:24PM)
This looks great and ill definately be picking this up. Quick question, does the quicksketch pad thing you use double down as a peek aswell? As in could you use it to dupe a drawing or does it only notify you the colours they've selected?
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 12:26PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Arthur T wrote:
This looks great and ill definately be picking this up. Quick question, does the quicksketch pad thing you use double down as a peek aswell? As in could you use it to dupe a drawing or does it only notify you the colours they've selected? [/quote]
Thanks Arthur! Currently it does not but it is something we [i]may[/i] implement in the future.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Apr 29, 2020 12:26PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Lloyd Barnes wrote:
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, pegasus wrote:
Oh the joys of having an iPhone. :rotf: [/quote]
It works on both iOS and Android. The spectator can use any phone they like. Or computer. Or tablet.

: ) [/quote]

Evidently not.
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (Apr 29, 2020 12:33PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, pegasus wrote:
Oh the joys of having an iPhone. :rotf: [/quote]

I have had plenty of magic apps that were garbage on IOS ;)

On a side note Pegasus, I swear I saw you on the xsimulator forums. Do you or did you have a motion sim setup? I am looking to build one myself :)

Thanks Lloyd!
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 29, 2020 12:34PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, MagicallyMe wrote:
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Johnsypoppins wrote:
Be careful if you purchase from the App Store without going to Ellusionist first or youíll make the same mistake I made with the user ID 😬 [/quote]

Can you please elaborate? Thanks. [/quote]

LOL
Message: Posted by: Magic KL (Apr 29, 2020 12:43PM)
It looks great! The price is good too.
Message: Posted by: Pixelated (Apr 29, 2020 12:54PM)
I've had a similar problem with a Samsung Note10 plus
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Apr 29, 2020 01:03PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, MarvinSanRemo wrote:
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, pegasus wrote:
Oh the joys of having an iPhone. :rotf: [/quote]

I have had plenty of magic apps that were garbage on IOS ;)

On a side note Pegasus, I swear I saw you on the xsimulator forums. Do you or did you have a motion sim setup? I am looking to build one myself :)

Thanks Lloyd! [/quote]

I do indeed mate. PM me.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 29, 2020 01:06PM)
When you buy this from Ellusionist where do you get the performance instructions?
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Apr 29, 2020 01:09PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Lloyd Barnes wrote:
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, pegasus wrote:
Oh the joys of having an iPhone. :rotf: [/quote]
It works on both iOS and Android. The spectator can use any phone they like. Or computer. Or tablet.

: ) [/quote]

Sorry Lloyd. This is in ref to magic apps in general in that there is nearly always teething problems with Android, due to the myriad of devices that run that particular OS. I just love being an iPhone owner as apps, more than usually work off the bat.

This does look very good.
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 01:09PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
When you buy this from Ellusionist where do you get the performance instructions? [/quote]
Right here: [url]https://www.ellusionist.com/learn-picasso-pro[/url]
Message: Posted by: Schism (Apr 29, 2020 01:10PM)
Crashes also on Galaxy s10
Message: Posted by: Lars777 (Apr 29, 2020 01:18PM)
App opens at first, but when I try to log in the screens turns black immediately. When I open the app again, the screens remains black.
App Store states it should work on my phone (I have iOS 13.4.1)
Too bad, seems like a very cool app! Hope the technical difficulties will be gone soon.
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 01:23PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Lars777 wrote:
App opens at first, but when I try to log in the screens turns black immediately. When I open the app again, the screens remains black.
App Store states it should work on my phone (I have iOS 13.4.1)
Too bad, seems like a very cool app! Hope the technical difficulties will be gone soon. [/quote]
Try dragging down with two fingers on the black screen ;)
Message: Posted by: Mark_Chandaue (Apr 29, 2020 01:34PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, pegasus wrote:
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, MarvinSanRemo wrote:
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, pegasus wrote:
Oh the joys of having an iPhone. :rotf: [/quote]

I have had plenty of magic apps that were garbage on IOS ;)

On a side note Pegasus, I swear I saw you on the xsimulator forums. Do you or did you have a motion sim setup? I am looking to build one myself :)

Thanks Lloyd! [/quote]

I do indeed mate. PM me. [/quote]

So you are a flight simmer? I donít have a decent rig these days but I still have my HomePit in the loft. Combat sims are more my thing, but I also flew FSX a lot back in the day.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Apr 29, 2020 02:19PM)
Shoot. Instantly crashes for me too. Samsung Note 9. Looking forward to it otherwise.
Message: Posted by: amirb401 (Apr 29, 2020 02:21PM)
Bought it right as you posted, didn't care of the problems since I wanted to get a good id!
unfortunately, the app crashes and I cant even finish typing my name on the register page..
Using samsung galaxy s9.
Hopefully this could be resolved quickly.
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 02:24PM)
We've been made aware of the issue, primarily affecting devices running Android P. Our developer has pushed an update in the last few minutes that should alleviate the vast majority of those and he's looking into the other crash reports that have been submitted.

Keep checking the Android App store for the update to appear and (fingers crossed) that should fix the issue with Samsung phones.
Message: Posted by: Phatmeat (Apr 29, 2020 02:35PM)
I love how at the beginning of the video instructions he tells you DO NOT create an account just yet until he explains to you why. EXCEPT you canít view the video instructions until AFTER youíve create an account. 🤦🏻‍♂️
Message: Posted by: Joe Roberts (Apr 29, 2020 02:38PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Phatmeat wrote:
I love how at the beginning of the video instructions he tells you DO NOT create an account just yet until he explains to you why. EXCEPT you canít view the video instructions until AFTER youíve create an account. 🤦🏻‍♂️ [/quote]

Classic Ellusionist.

I'm looking forward to checking this out once the bugs have been worked out.
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (Apr 29, 2020 02:45PM)
My app on iOS is frozen after the log in screen
Message: Posted by: Johnsypoppins (Apr 29, 2020 02:48PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Phatmeat wrote:
I love how at the beginning of the video instructions he tells you DO NOT create an account just yet until he explains to you why. EXCEPT you canít view the video instructions until AFTER youíve create an account. 🤦🏻‍♂️ [/quote]

Crazy eh, wish Iíd known but there was no way to... sucks but I went ahead and got a refund, hoping itíll be like starting again when re-purchase.
Message: Posted by: Phatmeat (Apr 29, 2020 02:48PM)
If you see a black screen try swiping down on the screen with two fingers. That should take you to the settings page.
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Apr 29, 2020 02:53PM)
So annoyed. You canít get to the instructions without registering so I register and then am immediately met with a warning video about what you should use as your ID! Now Iím stuck with a bad ID. They clearly knew this was an issue. Why not spell it out or put the warning video on the ad page so people clearly understand what to do?!
Message: Posted by: Greg Rostami (Apr 29, 2020 02:59PM)
Hmmmm ...
How is this different from Steven Ng's Colourz which was released September 2019?

[youtube]XSX0gq3UmCM[/youtube]
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (Apr 29, 2020 03:01PM)
Thanks phatmeat

To Eric or anyone else Iím not sure of this is a bug or a feature but it seems you can create different accounts with different User IDS and PW
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 03:01PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, emyers99 wrote:
So annoyed. You canít get to the instructions without registering so I register and then am immediately met with a warning video about what you should use as your ID! Now Iím stuck with a bad ID. They clearly knew this was an issue. Why not spell it out or put the warning video on the ad page so people clearly understand what to do?! [/quote]

I mean, it literally says:

[i]"IMPORTANT

The Picasso app does not contain instructions right now. Instructions can be found here [url]https://www.ellusionist.com/learn-picasso-pro[/url]
You'll need to create a Picasso account to access the instructions, so set one up in Picasso once you've installed it.

When creating an account, be mindful that your Performer ID will be used during your performance. Watch the video here first before creating your account."[/i]

At the top of the product page. Right before anything else.
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Apr 29, 2020 03:02PM)
This may have Craigís blessing , but if he had anything to do with the physical building of the app it would work straight off imo Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: cardbiker (Apr 29, 2020 03:04PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Greg Rostami wrote:
Hmmmm ...
How is this different from Steven Ng's Colourz which was released September 2019?

[youtube]XSX0gq3UmCM[/youtube] [/quote]

I think the difference is Steven Ngís actually works
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 03:08PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
This may have Craigís blessing , but if he had anything to do with the physical building of the app it would work straight off imo Gaz 🙂 [/quote]
No matter how good an app builder you are, [b]every[/b] app has teething problems upon release. In this case, it seems there's an issue on some Samsung devices that are causing it to crash. Thankfully though, due to our speedy developer, this has been fixed and an update has already been pushed through to the app store. Pretty impecable customer support, imho.

As to people not reading the big red "IMPORANTANT" note, which is the very first thing on the product page, which lets people know that their ID will become their URL... well, there's not a lot we can do about that. We can only give the information; we can't force people to take it in.
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Apr 29, 2020 03:12PM)
How they supposed to know what ď IMPORANTANT ď means ? Talk about sloppy itís laughable imo Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 03:19PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
How they supposed to know what ď IMPORANTANT ď means ? Talk about sloppy itís laughable imo Gaz 🙂 [/quote]
Please excuse my spelling mistake. It's 13 hours into this launch day, so I may make one or two spelling errors. However, the wesbite is correct. And I agree with you on the laughable front. It's right there on the page. :confused:
Message: Posted by: cardistry master (Apr 29, 2020 03:21PM)
Is there a way to peek to do the necessary on another device like is with a lot of others in case you don't have your device?
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 29, 2020 03:35PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, cardistry master wrote:
Is there a way to peek to do the necessary on another device like is with a lot of others in case you don't have your device? [/quote]
At the moment, you can only peak on your device. Although, we will shortly be getting the iWatch app up and running.
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (Apr 29, 2020 03:37PM)
A good feature would be able to import a template picture. If you can I miss it. It would be nice to be able to be able to get a pic from you photo roll for instance
Message: Posted by: Alden (Apr 29, 2020 03:49PM)
Crashing on my Huawei P30 as soon as I attempt to open have requested refund also hopefully a fix can be sorted as looks great
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Apr 29, 2020 04:03PM)
Double crap. I guess it does link to the warning video at the top. I watched the 5 min trailer and then the 11 min performance vid and ready all the copy and then scrolled to the bottom yo download the link. The bottom of the page gives you the sentence to be careful setting your ID but doesnít give specifics or link to the warning video. So 20 min into reading/watching the ad, I forgot about the top of the page. Link should be added to the bottom as well.
Message: Posted by: cardbiker (Apr 29, 2020 04:09PM)
Just buying and setting it up sounds challenging not gonna bother
Message: Posted by: magicianphiltay (Apr 29, 2020 04:23PM)
I really want to say donít buy this. But itís bloody brilliant, easy to set up, easy to use, multiple peeks. Yep 👍 well done Will, Lloyd & Tom.
This has all the makings of a real world worker..

Peace ✌️
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (Apr 29, 2020 04:26PM)
Lloyd, howís it going man. I was wondering if this product will be treated the same way console did when there became too many issues to tackle? Judging from an earlier post, your develop team jumped on an existing issue pretty quick. Which is a good thing. But from an outside view and a previous tech purchasing customer of Eí.s, Iím interested in more information on the above question Iíve asked before I make that plunge again. Thanks, and looking forward to hearing back.
Message: Posted by: Derotanim (Apr 29, 2020 04:26PM)
Just bought this (largely due to Peter Turner's performance). Looks very useable.

Thankfully managed to get a nice Performer ID.

@cardbiker, it's not a hassle to set up at all. You merely need to choose a Performer ID that feels like it fits into the URL (which is all shown in the now-public warning video). That's it.
Message: Posted by: cardbiker (Apr 29, 2020 04:31PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Derotanim wrote:
Just bought this (largely due to Peter Turner's performance). Looks very useable.

Thankfully managed to get a nice Performer ID.

@cardbiker, it's not a hassle to set up at all. You merely need to choose a Performer ID that feels like it fits into the URL (which is all shown in the now-public warning video). That's it. [/quote]
Can you give an example of a good ID
Thanks
Message: Posted by: Derotanim (Apr 29, 2020 04:33PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, cardbiker wrote:
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Derotanim wrote:
Just bought this (largely due to Peter Turner's performance). Looks very useable.

Thankfully managed to get a nice Performer ID.

@cardbiker, it's not a hassle to set up at all. You merely need to choose a Performer ID that feels like it fits into the URL (which is all shown in the now-public warning video). That's it. [/quote]
Can you give an example of a good ID
Thanks [/quote]

It depends on what you want to use the app for. Watch Lloyd's open access video and it will all be explained (in less than 2 mins) in more depth than I can write here.
Message: Posted by: cardbiker (Apr 29, 2020 04:37PM)
Where is the open access video found please
Message: Posted by: aheller5 (Apr 29, 2020 04:38PM)
Where is info and where can you buy Steven Ng's Colourz
Message: Posted by: Derotanim (Apr 29, 2020 04:39PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, cardbiker wrote:
Where is the open access video found please [/quote]
https://www.ellusionist.com/learn-picasso-pro
Message: Posted by: cardbiker (Apr 29, 2020 05:01PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Derotanim wrote:
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, cardbiker wrote:
Where is the open access video found please [/quote]
https://www.ellusionist.com/learn-picasso-pro [/quote]

Thanks Derotanim
Message: Posted by: CMR (Apr 29, 2020 05:24PM)
It looks really good. I will be getting this too.

This release already got 3 pages of comments in less than a day.
Message: Posted by: Derotanim (Apr 29, 2020 05:27PM)
I'm afraid I'm having a few issues (on my iPhone 11):

1. The Haptic feedback is the same for each input (only a single vibration).
2. The Haptic Interval setting doesn't change the time period between vibrations, but rather the wait before the first vibration.
3. The iOS app badge only changes in response to an input if one opens the app and goes back to the home screen (i.e.: it doesn't display or change anything if the phone is just on home screen).
4. Neither of the push notification features do anything (i.e.: no push notifications show up at all).

As a result, the only fully functioning feature at the moment is the in-app label.
Message: Posted by: Rooster (Apr 29, 2020 05:28PM)
This is great, used it in a virtual show this eve and my review (over at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDcPM-Uc2coupozF8BSJUQg) will be out tomorrow.
Message: Posted by: JamieD (Apr 29, 2020 05:29PM)
So I have spent the afternoon playing with this and I'll give my first thoughts. First and foremost, I am a huge a huge Pro Mystic fan and use several of their products. Anything Craig Filicetti puts his name too is going to have to be good. Albeit, in this case, it may take a bit of time to make it perfect. What I love about Pro Mystic is their attention to detail, nothing is overlooked and everything is so incredibly well thought out. The way the products function, how they speak to each other. They are just the very best of magic electronics.

Let's start with the plus points of this app. I have this set up on an iPhone 11 Pro so I can only speak of this from an Apple users perspective. The first thing I have to say is, the price point is a-mazing, which is both a good and a bad thing as I'm sure we are all aware.Great because it is so accessible ad affordable and not so good because it is so accessible. It is very cheap considering Colour Match effects can go for a great sum more, so this is a steal. The concept here is absolutely genius and whoever came up with the idea of putting this together needs a huge round of applause. It really is a brilliant idea. The instructions provided are, as per Ellusionists other products, very in-depth and they go through every detail. There is one small issue but we will come back to that in a bit. The app appears to be well built and the functionality of it is great. The options with this are awesome and there are some really clever additions that allow you to get the information needed. Potentially, when issues are resolved, this really will be worth every penny and I'm sure there are going to be countless pro's working this. And what a great time to launch it what with social distancing being the current norm. Honestly, it has the potential to be an absolutely incredible piece of magic and probably my favourite release ever from Ellusionist. The amount of money and time that goes into these kind of things in unreal so fair play to Ellusionist for developing this into something that will hopefully be amazing.

However...

It only takes a few moments skimming over comments on various Facebook pages to immediately see there are a few issues going on. The first issues is with the instructions. They ask for you to watch the instructions first, so you go to watch them and it asks you to sign in. So you sign in. Then the instructions tell you not to sign in until you have watched the instructions. This is partly my own fault. When I punched there was a small print asking to watch the instructions first, I missed that. They have now updated it and added it in bold as well. Ellusionist actually replied to me on this issue which is fair play to them. My question would be, if this was an issue, that they openly say on the download will be rectified in the coming days/weeks/months, why not wait until it is solved before launching the app? If you need to add a warning to the sales page AND on the video instructions AND know that potentially it could cause a lot of nuisance for your customers, you'd just hold off? Maybe that just my absurd thinking! Who knows! Regardless, Ellusionist have said it will be something that will be able to be changed in the future and that it good enough for me. Just a shame it's not something that was considered before launching the app, I've never really been one for being a paying beta tester! Many people also report a black screen when signing in and then nothing. (possibly the biggest comment I've seen so far online) Thankfully, I had worked this out and the app isn't broken at all. You just need to do a little thing for it to work. Part of the functionality of the app. Some Android users have experienced it crashing but I believe Ellusionist have already put an update out for that. So far on iPhone, I have experienced no crashes and it seems to work smoothly.

I feel as though, there is a long way to go with this app until it is ready for real world, everyday performance. For example, if you wish to do the colour match routine, you have to draw your own cartoon, using your finger, on a mobile screen. Getting them to look good for the average artist (of which I underperform as 'average') they will not look good. It gives no option to upload an image which I would have thought would have been one of the first things to include. But, as I said, the amount of money, time and effort that goes into these things is phenomenal so Im sure it'll be something that can be added in the future! It would also be awesome to change which indication you receive for each colour. Those of us that use Pro Mystic products are probably used to the colour sequence used, so would be awesome to have that option. Finally, it would be great to have some customisation of the page the spectator draws onto also.

To conclude, I don't want people to think of this as negative review because it isn't. Any issues here are easily fixed and although some may take a little bit of time, I am sure it'll be worth the wait. The functionality of the app is there and it does work. I'm sure with some tweaking you can find a way to perform it without them 'colouring in' but rather drawing items in colours. That way you don't have to try and draw a cartoon man with your finger on a little screen. I have managed to buy a separate domain and redirected to the effect domain which clears up the issues with sign in names. But hopefully in time that'll change.

But for the most part, this is a killer killer routine which is so cleverly thought out and for a fraction of the price of leading routines of its kind. This is an absolute steal and I cant wait to see what the future holds.

Jamie Daws
Message: Posted by: CMR (Apr 29, 2020 05:30PM)
Thanks for the review, Jamie.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 29, 2020 06:12PM)
You would have thought ellusionist would have got everything sorted before selling it and stating it was "Easy to perform".
Message: Posted by: MikeOB (Apr 29, 2020 06:21PM)
Did the new update from the playstore that fixes the Android version come through yet?
Message: Posted by: Nathan Pain (Apr 29, 2020 06:50PM)
Still not working on Samsung S10+
Message: Posted by: Mac_Stone (Apr 29, 2020 07:07PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Greg Rostami wrote:
Hmmmm ...
How is this different from Steven Ng's Colourz which was released September 2019?

[youtube]XSX0gq3UmCM[/youtube] [/quote]

It's not, and yet it is.

The Picasso routine, which has become synonymous with the Color Match effect, is the intellectual property of Craig Filicetti the founder of Promystic.

It is Craig's routine and it was released along along side his product. The routine itself as well as the Color Match effect have gone on the be knocked off countless times, including the product you referenced here.

[quote]Craig Filicetti:
I should mention Ellusionist is the ONLY company I have authorized the use of ProMystic's original routine. Many people have used our routine and even our videos to sell their products without my approval and against my expressed desire for them to stop! [/quote]

Greg, I'm sure you can appreciate Craig's desire to protect his intellectual property and I would hope everyone reading this thread will choose to support original creators rather than knock off competitors.


Again, this release from Ellusionist is the ONLY authorized version of this effect to be produced by any company other than Promystic.
Message: Posted by: TheDirectionalist (Apr 29, 2020 07:11PM)
Iím gonna wait until they add Apple Watch support because I currently film my livestream shows with my phone but this seems awesome!
Message: Posted by: Ray Pierce (Apr 29, 2020 07:15PM)
I do have it on my iPhone for location use but I also in stalled in on my iPod to use for FaceTime and other live streaming options. It's a worker!
Message: Posted by: tonysamos1 (Apr 30, 2020 12:01AM)
Instantly crashes on my Huawei Mate 10 Pro. Had to get a refund. If they work out the kinks I will defiantly re-buy.
Message: Posted by: Schism (Apr 30, 2020 01:33AM)
Update available for Android. Works on Galaxy s10
Message: Posted by: Pixelated (Apr 30, 2020 01:37AM)
Hi, how do you find the update,
Message: Posted by: tophatter (Apr 30, 2020 02:12AM)
This why I never purchase a new effect right away that involves magic with phone apps ! Looks great but I would wait till they work out all the bugs first . In fact I think I will go with Steven Ng's colourz thanks for posting that at least we know it works !
Message: Posted by: cardbiker (Apr 30, 2020 02:18AM)
Totally surprised at Promystic getting onboard with Ellustionist , why would you do that ?
Message: Posted by: gassaox (Apr 30, 2020 03:42AM)
Would I be able to force a drawing using DFB and then could they draw it on this app
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 04:37AM)
Hey guys,

Just giving a quick morning update. First of all, thank you to all of you that are using this without any flaws. We are thrilled with the excellent reviews.

To those of you that have found some bugs; our developer is working on them right as we speak. We know a lot of you recieved the update yesterday and that fixed the initial crash issue for Android but for the few remaining users' issues, they're being ironed out right now.

We're also implementing the video instructions direct into the app to help people who aren't reading the product page before purchasing.

All of this in under 24 hours! As with all Apps, as mentioned by someone above; there are [i]always[/i] bugs to be found with any app, no matter the developer. With Ellusionist having the largest fanbase in the industry, it always comes accross like we have more bug issues purely because there is that [i]many[/i] people downloading the app. In reality, it's only one or two bugs (i.e. Android crashing on launch) with many people reporting it at the same time. So we want to thank all of you for the glowing reviews and feedback and for those experiencing a bug, thank you your patients in this first day while we get them ironed out so you can all start having fun!


Cheers,
Lloyd
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 04:38AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, gassaox wrote:
Would I be able to force a drawing using DFB and then could they draw it on this app [/quote]
Absolutely! We actually talk about this in the download, too!
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 04:39AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Schism wrote:
Update available for Android. Works on Galaxy s10 [/quote]
Great to hear! We know this update fixed mostly all users experiencing this issue.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 30, 2020 05:06AM)
Ah! so you have to get your spectator to draw something on their phone. (I have seen the website they are sent to), No picture already set up? As usual it doesn't say that in the video you are once again "led to believe" that the spectator is sent to a website that has a "pre-drawn" image to colour in. Correct me if I am wrong please as I nearly bought it. What was the name of the other app someone else is selling that does almost the same thing?
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 05:14AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
Ah! so you have to get your spectator to draw something on their phone. (I have seen the website they are sent to), No picture already set up? As usual it doesn't say that in the video you are once again "led to believe" that the spectator is sent to a website that has a "pre-drawn" image to colour in. Correct me if I am wrong please as I nearly bought it. What was the name of the other app someone else is selling that does almost the same thing? [/quote]
You can do both. Either draw a preset template within the app. Or have them draw one in performance. I choose to have them draw it in performance as it leads to a lot of fun moments but it's just personal preferance.

Any other app aiming to replicate this effect is not authorised by Craig Filicetti at ProMystic to be used with his Picasso routine. So please try to only support the oringal creator and his work. In this case, Picasso Pro.
Message: Posted by: gassaox (Apr 30, 2020 05:16AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Lloyd Barnes wrote:
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, gassaox wrote:
Would I be able to force a drawing using DFB and then could they draw it on this app [/quote]
Absolutely! We actually talk about this in the download, too! [/quote]
Thanks for the reply Lloyd
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 30, 2020 05:31AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Lloyd Barnes wrote:
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
Ah! so you have to get your spectator to draw something on their phone. (I have seen the website they are sent to), No picture already set up? As usual it doesn't say that in the video you are once again "led to believe" that the spectator is sent to a website that has a "pre-drawn" image to colour in. Correct me if I am wrong please as I nearly bought it. What was the name of the other app someone else is selling that does almost the same thing? [/quote]
You can do both. Either draw a preset template within the app. Or have them draw one in performance. I choose to have them draw it in performance as it leads to a lot of fun moments but it's just personal preferance.

Any other app aiming to replicate this effect is not authorised by Craig Filicetti at ProMystic to be used with his Picasso routine. So please try to only support the oringal creator and his work. In this case, Picasso Pro. [/quote]


Lloyd,

Ok will do. Tell me does it come with performance ideas or what? Also is ready to go out of the box so to speak? Lastly are templates included in the app or do you have to make your own please?

Gary
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 05:41AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Lloyd Barnes wrote:
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
Ah! so you have to get your spectator to draw something on their phone. (I have seen the website they are sent to), No picture already set up? As usual it doesn't say that in the video you are once again "led to believe" that the spectator is sent to a website that has a "pre-drawn" image to colour in. Correct me if I am wrong please as I nearly bought it. What was the name of the other app someone else is selling that does almost the same thing? [/quote]
You can do both. Either draw a preset template within the app. Or have them draw one in performance. I choose to have them draw it in performance as it leads to a lot of fun moments but it's just personal preferance.

Any other app aiming to replicate this effect is not authorised by Craig Filicetti at ProMystic to be used with his Picasso routine. So please try to only support the oringal creator and his work. In this case, Picasso Pro. [/quote]


Lloyd,

Ok will do. Tell me does it come with performance ideas or what? Also is ready to go out of the box so to speak? Lastly are templates included in the app or do you have to make your own please?

Gary [/quote]
Hey Gary,

To answer your questions:

1. Yes, it comes with instructions and a whole bunch of ideas.
2. Essentially, yes. It's pretty much good to go. All you need to do is register an account, watch the instrutcions and chose your settings. Please watch the video on this page [i]before[/i] registering though: [url]https://www.ellusionist.com/learn-picasso-pro[/url]
3. Templates are not included, currently. In the settings page, click the template option and draw in any image of your choice and hit 'save'. This will then be preloaded when they open up the web page.


Hope this helps!
Lloyd
Message: Posted by: Rooster (Apr 30, 2020 06:22AM)
Find my review here: https://youtu.be/Nhg7-9mVooE
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 06:38AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Rooster wrote:
Find my review here: [youtube]Nhg7-9mVooE[/youtube] [/quote]
Ah wow! Thank you so much for the kind words! The feedback coming back is insane!

Thank you for taking the time to do this!
Message: Posted by: dalepearson (Apr 30, 2020 07:09AM)
I have emailed Ellusionist, but thought I would ask here incase anyone else had a similar experience.
I have purchased the app from the Apple Store, created my account as per the questions, but when I log in I just get a black screen on the phone.
I have tried closing and opening again, and deleting the app and re-installing, but still the same result.
I am running the latest iOS on an iPhone 8 Plus.
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 07:15AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, dalepearson wrote:
I have emailed Ellusionist, but thought I would ask here incase anyone else had a similar experience.
I have purchased the app from the Apple Store, created my account as per the questions, but when I log in I just get a black screen on the phone.
I have tried closing and opening again, and deleting the app and re-installing, but still the same result.
I am running the latest iOS on an iPhone 8 Plus. [/quote]
In the instructions, here: [url]https://www.ellusionist.com/learn-picasso-pro[/url] we explain that to get out of the black screen, you just need to drag down with two fingers. This will open up the settings page.

Hope this helps : )
Message: Posted by: dalepearson (Apr 30, 2020 07:22AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Lloyd Barnes wrote:
In the instructions, here: [url]https://www.ellusionist.com/learn-picasso-pro[/url] we explain that to get out of the black screen, you just need to drag down with two fingers. This will open up the settings page.

Hope this helps : ) [/quote]

Cheers Lloyd, clearly I am an idiot as I watched the instructions and totally missed abit about the black screen.
Thanks for responding and getting me up and running.
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Apr 30, 2020 07:36AM)
Any plans to add pre drawn templates?
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 07:39AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, reignofsound wrote:
Any plans to add pre drawn templates? [/quote]
We're adding them in [i]right[/i] now. Will be live by this evening. Also, you can currently save one preset drawn template in there as it stands.
Message: Posted by: MikeOB (Apr 30, 2020 07:47AM)
Updated and now works on Samsung note 10 plus
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 30, 2020 07:52AM)
How about the HUAWEI Y6 2019 Android before I buy it!?
Message: Posted by: ArtIn (Apr 30, 2020 07:55AM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Arthur T wrote:
This looks great and ill definately be picking this up. Quick question, does the q*********** pad thing you use double down as a peek aswell? As in could you use it to dupe a drawing or does it only notify you the colours they've selected? [/quote]

Guys please be aware that this a searchable forum.
Mentioning the website or title here is the worst people can do for owners.
With bad luck your spectator googles the page and see this thread.
Message: Posted by: magicmatt89 (Apr 30, 2020 08:08AM)
I bought this as a gamble and it paid off. This is amazing, please see my full review here https://youtu.be/pkB-QgX-x3g

I just want to say before you open the app for the first time please watch the video lloyd has posted the link to first so that you set it up correctly

Matt
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 08:24AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, magicmatt89 wrote:
I bought this as a gamble and it paid off. This is amazing, please see my full review here [youtube]pkB-QgX-x3g[/youtube]

I just want to say before you open the app for the first time please watch the video lloyd has posted the link to first so that you set it up correctly

Matt [/quote]
Another stealla review, thank you so much mate! From myself, Tom and Craig. We're all so happy that everyone is loving this as much as we have over the last couple of years!
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 08:32AM)
[b]Android Users Re: Picasso Pro[/b]

The update needed to help avoid the crash bug happening, should now be live globally. Can you all check you are running Picasso Pro Version 1.0.16

To check this:
In the app store, Tap "About this app"
What's new should say "An issue existed that could cause an app crash on Android P during launch". Under App Info, version is 1.0.16

Those of you that did experience the bug, can you now check if you have updated and if it's worked for you?
Message: Posted by: dooblehorn (Apr 30, 2020 08:36AM)
I just got this, and I love it. I have Promystic Color Match, and am a big fan of Promystic products, so this was an easy purchase.
I'd love to get the predrawn templates, as my drawn one looks pretty terrible. I hope they are available soon.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 30, 2020 08:46AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Lloyd Barnes wrote:
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, reignofsound wrote:
Any plans to add pre drawn templates? [/quote]
We're adding them in [i]right[/i] now. Will be live by this evening. Also, you can currently save one preset drawn template in there as it stands. [/quote]

So will these pre drawn templates be an added download like an update to the app?
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 30, 2020 08:49AM)
Can you get a print out version of the instructions please rather than on screen?
Also people are saying you can do this straight out the box once you have "done a few things". I am struggling to work out how this works but that's half the fun!
On a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being easy how "easy" is this to do, say to a relative newbie?
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 09:03AM)
By the way, someone asked me if the below reviews came from assosiates of Ellusionist. I can categorically tell you these reviews are 100% independant of Ellusionist and they both purchased the Apps for themselves. In fact, in Matthew's review, he openly admits he's not even Ellusionist's biggest fan. Can't get any more honest than that.

[youtube]Nhg7-9mVooE[/youtube]

[youtube]pkB-QgX-x3g[/youtube]
Message: Posted by: Rooster (Apr 30, 2020 09:13AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Lloyd Barnes wrote:
By the way, someone asked me if the below reviews came from assosiates of Ellusionist. I can categorically tell you these reviews are 100% independant of Ellusionist and they both purchased the Apps for themselves. In fact, in Matthew's review, he openly admits he's not even Ellusionist's biggest fan. Can't get any more honest than that.

[youtube]Nhg7-9mVooE[/youtube]

[youtube]pkB-QgX-x3g[/youtube] [/quote]

I can confirm this. I bought the app with my own money and have not been asked to do anything by Ellusionist. Anyone that follows my channel knows I only review stuff that can be used in the real world for working pros as well as hobbyists, and Iíll only review what I feel is truly workable(not just the latest and greatest).
Message: Posted by: Philzimt (Apr 30, 2020 09:45AM)
Hint: if you're considering a purchase it makes sense to make up your mind fast since alle the good IDs will be gone fast.
Message: Posted by: simplymagicweb (Apr 30, 2020 09:56AM)
Ordered. Just got black screen? On iPhone
Message: Posted by: Joe Roberts (Apr 30, 2020 10:03AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Philzimt wrote:
Hint: if you're considering a purchase it makes sense to make up your mind fast since alle the good IDs will be gone fast. [/quote]

Also, it won't be long before anyone searching that URL will find their way back to Ellusionist and the trick. So perform it now before it's completely over exposed.
Message: Posted by: simplymagicweb (Apr 30, 2020 10:06AM)
Ahhhh so I bought it off AppStore and then saw the ID recommendation after creating my ID..... Bummer. Oh well.
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (Apr 30, 2020 10:14AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, simplymagicweb wrote:
Ordered. Just got black screen? On iPhone [/quote]

Did you swipe down with two fingers?
Message: Posted by: dalepearson (Apr 30, 2020 10:15AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, simplymagicweb wrote:
Ordered. Just got black screen? On iPhone [/quote]

When you open the app and its a black screen, pull down from the tops with two fingers and you should get to the settings screen.
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (Apr 30, 2020 10:15AM)
This is from an internal memo, written by Developer Will Jones @Ellusionist

"Iíve been slammed busy all day building these updates.

AS OF RIGHT THIS MINUTE:

A new version for Android has been rolled out (This is version 1.1.0)
A new version for iOS has been submitted for review (Version 1.1)

It adds the following:

There is now a warning that when you create your account, the performer ID will be used as part of the performance and cannot be changed at a later date
There is now a link to the instructions in the options. In iOS, this displays the instructions within the app. In android, it opens the default web browser and goes to the instructions page.
The first time the app launches, it tells the user to swipe down to access the options and instructions. This displays until the first time the options are opened, then does not show again"



More updates to follow, but Android users, this SHOULD solve some of the issues you've had. Everyone make sure you have the newest version of the app :)

Cheers,

- G
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 30, 2020 10:24AM)
Thank you bought it an hour ago!
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 30, 2020 10:28AM)
I have bought this and had some good advice from forum members here, I can't wait to get started and yes I have taken the advice about "username" people say a lot of good ones have gone but you can easily find more to use with a bit of "know how"!
Message: Posted by: mjstmagicman (Apr 30, 2020 10:30AM)
Although Iím having a few different issues, depending on which device it is loaded on, overall this is absolutely fantastic. When working properly it is definitely the best value for money for a trick that I can think of, the collaboration of Craig Lloyd and Tom has produced an absolute gem, more more more! (I think there is a song in there somewhere)
Message: Posted by: simplymagicweb (Apr 30, 2020 10:46AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, simplymagicweb wrote:
Ahhhh so I bought it off AppStore and then saw the ID recommendation after creating my ID..... Bummer. Oh well. [/quote]

Great service.... Got a personal sesame and now changed ID. Excellent work, thank you
Message: Posted by: aheller5 (Apr 30, 2020 10:51AM)
How is it working for the samsung androids ? I heard people having trouble
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (Apr 30, 2020 10:54AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, aheller5 wrote:
How is it working for the samsung androids ? I heard people having trouble [/quote]

We just pushed a new update. Should all be resolved now.
Message: Posted by: Lseeyou (Apr 30, 2020 11:16AM)
Congratulations everyone involved on this particular app!!!

Sorry to ask but didn't found any info... my iPhone locks while running the app, how do you fix this?

Hope more fixes coming soon.

Thank you!
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (Apr 30, 2020 11:19AM)
Where's the directions
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (Apr 30, 2020 11:21AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Lseeyou wrote:
Congratulations everyone involved on this particular app!!!

Sorry to ask but didn't found any info... my iPhone locks while running the app, how do you fix this?

Hope more fixes coming soon.

Thank you! [/quote]

[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Steven Conner wrote:
Where's the directions [/quote]


Hey guys,

Go here: https://www.ellusionist.com/learn-picasso-pro
Message: Posted by: mjstmagicman (Apr 30, 2020 11:21AM)
To stop your iPhone from going to lock, go to settings-display and brightness- auto lock and set to never :)
Message: Posted by: leosx1 (Apr 30, 2020 11:30AM)
Absolutely brilliant ! Works a charm now on my Samsung S6 as well as on my Ipod and IPad. I look forward to the predefined templates.
Message: Posted by: Alden (Apr 30, 2020 12:15PM)
Have purchased again for second time , having refunded first purchase and unistalled, same problem , opens for a split second then disappears, no time to click on screen as it disappears instantly using Huawei P30, any ideas ?
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (Apr 30, 2020 12:27PM)
Did you swipe down from top with 2 fingers
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (Apr 30, 2020 12:34PM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Alden wrote:
Have purchased again for second time , having refunded first purchase and unistalled, same problem , opens for a split second then disappears, no time to click on screen as it disappears instantly using Huawei P30, any ideas ? [/quote]

Click into the play store and select 'about this app' on Picasso Pro.

Is the version you're running 1.0.16?
Message: Posted by: tophatter (Apr 30, 2020 12:40PM)
Okay I am now convinced ! I have an Iphone 6+ I was going to wait cause I heard about the isssues everyone was having but it sounds like they worked out the bugs already. I really liked you Lego idea great thinking !
Message: Posted by: CMR (Apr 30, 2020 12:52PM)
I have an iPhone as well. Should I wait for the latest version before making a purchase? Also, am I able to use it if I switch to an android phone in the future?
Message: Posted by: WitchDocChris (Apr 30, 2020 02:10PM)
Will pushed an update to iOS as well. It's pending approval so they may not allow you to download it right now. I'm not sure, as I'm not an iPhone user, but a couple people mentioned that.
Message: Posted by: tophatter (Apr 30, 2020 03:09PM)
So we should wait right for the update for Iphone I guess this is the way to go all the bugs will be worked out ?
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Apr 30, 2020 03:17PM)
Ios version working fine for me.
iphone x
Message: Posted by: MagicallyMe (Apr 30, 2020 03:37PM)
Is there a tutorial on changing all of the settings and using the templates?
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 30, 2020 03:40PM)
Just a comment but it would be nice if Ellusionist updated the listing on their website.
Message: Posted by: godan65 (Apr 30, 2020 04:19PM)
Hi, just downloaded.
Works fine with iPhone7 and iOS 13.3.1.
Looking forward to the templates ;-)
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (Apr 30, 2020 04:38PM)
Templates were meant to be up tonight?
Message: Posted by: amirb401 (Apr 30, 2020 04:46PM)
After the update last night I managed to register and get it to work.
App works nice and very well ! Few extra bugs I found of stuff that's not working but overall very nice.
I am using Android phone Samsung Galaxy note s9.

BUGS:
1) when choosing a "Background Image" I choose a picture, and it just returns to the 1st page of the "choose image
eset" without adding an image. tried various images and screenshots. couldn't make it work.
2) Set App badge -> should make a little notification on the app icon according to the instructions, and yet it wont work. just no label nor a number showing up.
3) Adding a photo for the "Template" is honestly a must .. many people cant draw even decently on a phone. drawing a decent picture will be horrible for many, if we could just upload a picture we want it would be A LOT easier and I think it really a must-have here.
4) I saw the comment G said about templates, I got the new update yet no template drawings available anywhere.
Message: Posted by: godan65 (Apr 30, 2020 04:57PM)
The night is still young :-)
I suppose there will be info in this topic once the templates are available.
In the meantime my DIY stickman is becoming better and better ...
Message: Posted by: SimonTheSorcerer (Apr 30, 2020 05:10PM)
Can this drawing site be embedded in an existing website so people go to "mywebsiteforexample.com/drawing" so the original url is not visible?
Message: Posted by: JamieD (Apr 30, 2020 05:19PM)
Those interested in doing so, you can buy a separate domain, normally for very little money. Then divert the apps domain to the one purchased and enable masking. This means, they'll go to your custom domain and it will display that and not the one that comes with the app. The only issue with this is, the Picasso for some reason has the name of the website at the top of the sketch page so your personal address will contradict that of the actual app. Just food for thought! :D

Jamie Daws
Message: Posted by: MagicallyMe (Apr 30, 2020 06:17PM)
What keeps previous volunteers from being in that website using it while you are performing for your next guests?
Message: Posted by: Joe Roberts (Apr 30, 2020 09:01PM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, JamieD wrote:
Those interested in doing so, you can buy a separate domain, normally for very little money. Then divert the apps domain to the one purchased and enable masking. This means, they'll go to your custom domain and it will display that and not the one that comes with the app. The only issue with this is, the Picasso for some reason has the name of the website at the top of the sketch page so your personal address will contradict that of the actual app. Just food for thought! :D

Jamie Daws [/quote]

That's a great idea. I'd love to see the site name removed from the sketch page itself.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (May 1, 2020 01:53AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, Joe Roberts wrote:
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, JamieD wrote:
Those interested in doing so, you can buy a separate domain, normally for very little money. Then divert the apps domain to the one purchased and enable masking. This means, they'll go to your custom domain and it will display that and not the one that comes with the app. The only issue with this is, the Picasso for some reason has the name of the website at the top of the sketch page so your personal address will contradict that of the actual app. Just food for thought! :D

Jamie Daws [/quote]

That's a great idea. I'd love to see the site name removed from the sketch page itself. [/quote]

I agree.
Message: Posted by: dalepearson (May 1, 2020 02:12AM)
Any idea how you get the invite to the Facebook group for this? As you buy it via the App store there is no direct link to Ellusionist to provide you post purchase info?
Message: Posted by: godan65 (May 1, 2020 02:23AM)
There is a link on the ellusionist site to the video exlanations. Everything is explaniert there. I have not heard of a fb site yet.
Message: Posted by: baobow (May 1, 2020 03:15AM)
Installed and working fine on samsung s9. Got freakes out by the black screen that qas presented at first after install. But once I got into the settings, and watched the tutorial, I was in heaven..always wanted.colormatch, now I have an affordable version to use
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (May 1, 2020 03:55AM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, MagicallyMe wrote:
What keeps previous volunteers from being in that website using it while you are performing for your next guests? [/quote]
This is fully covered here: [url]https://www.ellusionist.com/learn-picasso-pro[/url]. We have deveoped the software to ensure this doesn't happen. You can also have the entire audience on the website at the same time, as long as the one spectator you're choosing to use the prediction on has opened it first. It's great because the audience proves how many different itterations of colouring one stick man there can be. But the spectator you've selected is the only one it works with. Really powerful.
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (May 1, 2020 03:58AM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, baobow wrote:
Installed and working fine on samsung s9. Got freakes out by the black screen that qas presented at first after install. But once I got into the settings, and watched the tutorial, I was in heaven..always wanted.colormatch, now I have an affordable version to use [/quote]
Glad you're enjoying it mate! And thanks to you and everyone for allowing us to get through the bumpy first day. That's app releases for you.

Also, to everyone else; 95% of the quesitons I've been asked are answered with:
A) On the black screen, swipe down with 2 fingers to get to the settings.
B) Make sure to watch the instructions from start to finish: [url]https://www.ellusionist.com/learn-picasso-pro[/url]

Hope this helps!
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 1, 2020 06:54AM)
Right, struggling to get a Performer I.D. just when I thought it would be easy! Am I right that if the word I am choosing has already been taken it just takes you back, so you can try another? It would be nice if it said "Sorry I.D. already taken"?
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 1, 2020 07:26AM)
Got myself an I.D. now, I am part way through the performance video and I can see a p****n forming and I ask myself could this be repeated to the same group of people?
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 1, 2020 07:36AM)
Talk about peeking has anyone watch the performance video yet at around 12 mins? I had to LOL!!!
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (May 1, 2020 07:57AM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
Got myself an I.D. now, I am part way through the performance video and I can see a p****n forming and I ask myself could this be repeated to the same group of people? [/quote]
As with a lot of effects, I would really avoid performing this to the same group of people. You [i]can[/i] but I'd atleast use a different prediction or color set up of the prediction.

This piece really is more of a closer though.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 1, 2020 08:01AM)
When are the templates going up please and when I goto my I.D. page it is a blank canvas with colours at the bottom?
Saying that I am only on the performance page.
Message: Posted by: aheller5 (May 1, 2020 08:43AM)
Templates would be great idea I can't draw !!!!
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 1, 2020 08:48AM)
They were supposed to be online last night?
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (May 1, 2020 09:00AM)
Give it a chance.
I think updates need to be approved by Apple first?
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 1, 2020 09:07AM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, reignofsound wrote:
Give it a chance.
I think updates need to be approved by Apple first? [/quote]

What about Android?
Message: Posted by: WitchDocChris (May 1, 2020 09:09AM)
Android was approved the morning after it was submitted. There will likely be more updates submitted over the next few days, though, to solve issues as they crop up. Make sure to consistently double-check the Play Store for updates.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 1, 2020 09:14AM)
Ok thanks how can I tell when the android templates have been uploaded?
Message: Posted by: lunatik (May 1, 2020 10:14AM)
I don't think the technology is quite there yet, but it would be nice to have the phone communicate my promystic receiver :)
Message: Posted by: gassaox (May 1, 2020 10:51AM)
Got to be one of the best purchases I made this year ,brilliant 👍
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (May 1, 2020 11:20AM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, gassaox wrote:
Got to be one of the best purchases I made this year ,brilliant 👍 [/quote]

Are you able to leave that review on the product page? Helps a lot :)
Message: Posted by: Derotanim (May 1, 2020 11:25AM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Derotanim wrote:
I'm afraid I'm having a few issues (on my iPhone 11):

1. The Haptic feedback is the same for each input (only a single vibration).
2. The Haptic Interval setting doesn't change the time period between vibrations, but rather the wait before the first vibration.
3. The iOS app badge only changes in response to an input if one opens the app and goes back to the home screen (i.e.: it doesn't display or change anything if the phone is just on home screen).
4. Neither of the push notification features do anything (i.e.: no push notifications show up at all).

As a result, the only fully functioning feature at the moment is the in-app label. [/quote]

I hope the iOS update is approved soon and actually addresses these issues, as right now this is barely useable for me. I find this quite odd, given how most others with iPhones seem to be running the app flawlessly.
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (May 1, 2020 11:33AM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, lunatik wrote:
I don't think the technology is quite there yet, but it would be nice to have the phone communicate my promystic receiver :) [/quote]

We have some users currently using: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Xiaomi-Fitness-Armband-Monitor-Bluetooth/dp/B07STTWHPL to get their peeks (successfully) which was news to me... but it's something we can look at also.
Message: Posted by: gassaox (May 1, 2020 11:54AM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, GeraintClarke wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, gassaox wrote:
Got to be one of the best purchases I made this year ,brilliant 👍 [/quote]

Are you able to leave that review on the product page? Helps a lot :) [/quote]
Itís done cheers
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (May 1, 2020 12:22PM)
My review is coming 😈😈😈
Message: Posted by: magic_tony (May 1, 2020 12:47PM)
It's good of you all to beta test the app for them! :-)
Message: Posted by: mjstmagicman (May 1, 2020 01:13PM)
Okay, final review from me, This is the best magic trick I have bought in such a long while. There was a lot of mistakes setting it up, but if only I had watched the whole instructional video first :goof: with so many different phones I donít think they have covered every last bit, so you may need to work a few things out yourself, but boy is it worth it. Once everything is set up and you have watched the entire instructions ;) you are ready to fry everyone. This is brilliant for walk around and I just wonder if Craig will add future Promystic products on an app for a r******r 🤔 I really hope so
Anyways I think people should maybe have a good play with this and allow for a few ironing out updates before reviewing on the AppStore as I feel some negative comments are user error and not this amazing app.

Final well done to all the creators and thanks
Message: Posted by: pegasus (May 1, 2020 01:25PM)
If all else fails read the manual.
Message: Posted by: godan65 (May 1, 2020 02:52PM)
Does this work with the promystic PMR Standard Receiver ?
Message: Posted by: Pugwash (May 1, 2020 03:05PM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, pegasus wrote:
If all else fails read the manual. [/quote]
Or watch... :)
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (May 1, 2020 03:12PM)
This app has nothing to do with Craig , only that he has given ellusionist permission to sell the app with his routine thatís literally all . His V2 receivers etc work on a completely different technology Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (May 1, 2020 03:14PM)
Unless he has new receivers being produced ? Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: godan65 (May 1, 2020 03:40PM)
Thank you very much for the answer regarding the PMR.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (May 1, 2020 06:06PM)
We need a V3!
Message: Posted by: egoli (May 1, 2020 06:35PM)
Any update when templates will be available? My drawing and colouring are terrible. Or can someone PM me with a coloured-in stickman or house? - that would be fantastic and very much appreciated.

Many thanks in advance

Ed
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (May 1, 2020 06:57PM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, egoli wrote:
Any update when templates will be available? My drawing and colouring are terrible. Or can someone PM me with a coloured-in stickman or house? - that would be fantastic and very much appreciated.

Many thanks in advance

Ed [/quote]

Have you tried using a stylist? Much easier and cleaner for both, performer and spec.
Message: Posted by: egoli (May 1, 2020 07:15PM)
What is a stylist and where do I find it?

Thanks

Ed
Message: Posted by: John Gerard (May 1, 2020 07:19PM)
He meant "stylus" or "stylus pen"
Message: Posted by: egoli (May 1, 2020 07:23PM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, John Gerard wrote:
He meant "stylus" or "stylus pen" [/quote]

Thanks - I'll check into that
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (May 1, 2020 08:54PM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, John Gerard wrote:
He meant "stylus" or "stylus pen" [/quote]


Not sure why it spelt it like that but yes, thatís it.
Message: Posted by: Mac_Stone (May 1, 2020 08:55PM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, godan65 wrote:
Does this work with the promystic PMR Standard Receiver ? [/quote]

No.
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (May 1, 2020 09:36PM)
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, JamieD wrote:
Those interested in doing so, you can buy a separate domain, normally for very little money. Then divert the apps domain to the one purchased and enable masking. This means, they'll go to your custom domain and it will display that and not the one that comes with the app. The only issue with this is, the Picasso for some reason has the name of the website at the top of the sketch page so your personal address will contradict that of the actual app. Just food for thought! :D

Jamie Daws [/quote]

Hey Jamie - I loved this idea and did it. I'm not opposed to using the regular domain, but with my new one, the drawing doesn't fill the whole page like it does with going the normal, provided URL (with your ID) route. How about you? not sure why...
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 1, 2020 11:11PM)
Hello

sorry about that , but I can't understand.
is the Picasso app works with Colormatch ?
do I have to buy Promystic Colormatch or the app is stand alone ?

thanks.
Message: Posted by: Schism (May 1, 2020 11:16PM)
App is standalone.
Message: Posted by: dooblehorn (May 2, 2020 01:29AM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, egoli wrote:
Any update when templates will be available? My drawing and colouring are terrible. Or can someone PM me with a coloured-in stickman or house? - that would be fantastic and very much appreciated.

Many thanks in advance

Ed [/quote]
Ed, I'm with you. Awaiting templates.
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 01:32AM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?
performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )
performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ?
Message: Posted by: NeilS (May 2, 2020 02:47AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?
performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )
performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ? [/quote]

Have you seen Peter Turner's performance in which he emailed out his prediction well in advance? It was seriously impressive.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (May 2, 2020 02:51AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, NeilS wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?
performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )
performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ? [/quote]

Have you seen Peter Turner's performance in which he emailed out his prediction well in advance? It was seriously impressive. [/quote]

Where is that performance?
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 03:08AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, NeilS wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?
performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )
performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ? [/quote]

Have you seen Peter Turner's performance in which he emailed out his prediction well in advance? It was seriously impressive. [/quote]

i didn't see Peter Turner's performance . the issue is not the prediction , if its emailed from advance or draw on a piece of paper from advance. the issue is how the rourine is going . if its like I wrote above that spectator choose a color and you said to him , with this color please paint the hat or the shirt ( of course after you peeked ) than the method is too obvious and surley every one will suspect that a peek app is involved.
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 03:24AM)
By the way this app reminds me an old app that I have . its called in my Iphone " PsiPad " . I don't know if that the name in the store cause I don't find it any more by this name . this app has a drawing pad that you can draw any thing you want, then you give your phone to the spectatore and tell him to paint the object any way he wants. ( there are 10 colors pencils to choose ). you can peek whats he does simultaneity , and the good thing is that you can peek it in your smart watch ( Apple ).
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 03:35AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, pegasus wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, NeilS wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?
performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )
performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ? [/quote]

Have you seen Peter Turner's performance in which he emailed out his prediction well in advance? It was seriously impressive. [/quote]

Where is that performance? [/quote]

Its is here https://www.ellusionist.com/picasso-pro.html
scroll down the page.
Message: Posted by: godan65 (May 2, 2020 04:12AM)
Yes, an amazing routine and performance of Peter. It shows how you can add layers of deception through clever construction and precise talking. Love it 😀
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 04:20AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, pegasus wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, NeilS wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?
performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )
performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ? [/quote]

Have you seen Peter Turner's performance in which he emailed out his prediction well in advance? It was seriously impressive. [/quote]

Where is that performance? [/quote]

Its is here https://www.ellusionist.com/picasso-pro.html
scroll down the page. [/quote]

i saw the performence , and its like I thought . pick a color , now with that color draw the windows. pick another color , now with that one draw the door. and so on...
too obvious .
the only thing I didn't catch is how the number ( 22 ) is match.
Message: Posted by: patapon (May 2, 2020 04:28AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?
performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )

performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ? [/quote]


I just purchased this yesterday, and I will say this... it doesn't do the magic in a way that would make it "less obvious", so you MUST have a very strong script to make it "less obvious" so that your Spec would not suspect what is going on, or that an App is involved.

Peter's demo is a great example of how he made his Spec feel that he had a totally free choice of which object to draw, which colour to choose and which part of the object to fill with that chosen colour.

In summary, my opinion is that if you treat this as a "self-working trick", then yes, there is real danger that your Spec will know what's going on, and an App/some tech is involved. However, if you treat this as a tool, and understand that it needs a GREAT script, then you will blow your Specs' minds!
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 04:34AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, godan65 wrote:
Yes, an amazing routine and performance of Peter. It shows how you can add layers of deception through clever construction and precise talking. Love it 😀 [/quote]

whats so clever about that ? any little wise spectator will understand that you peeked the color they choose , and tell him to draw the item ( window , door , trees ...) match to your " prediction ".
like I wrote , I alraedy have an app that can make quite similar routine ( but better to my opinion ) with 10 colors. ( not with an previously prediction , but as simultaneously mind reading ) . an the peek can be done in the Smart watch ).
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 04:40AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, patapon wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?
performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )

performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ? [/quote]


I just purchased this yesterday, and I will say this... it doesn't do the magic in a way that would make it "less obvious", so you MUST have a very strong script to make it "less obvious" so that your Spec would not suspect what is going on, or that an App is involved.

Peter's demo is a great example of how he made his Spec feel that he had a totally free choice of which object to draw, which colour to choose and which part of the object to fill with that chosen colour.

In summary, my opinion is that if you treat this as a "self-working trick", then yes, there is real danger that your Spec will know what's going on, and an App/some tech is involved. However, if you treat this as a tool, and understand that it needs a GREAT script, then you will blow your Specs' minds! [/quote]

please read my comment to godan65.
Message: Posted by: amirb401 (May 2, 2020 05:06AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, patapon wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?
performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )

performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ? [/quote]


I just purchased this yesterday, and I will say this... it doesn't do the magic in a way that would make it "less obvious", so you MUST have a very strong script to make it "less obvious" so that your Spec would not suspect what is going on, or that an App is involved.

Peter's demo is a great example of how he made his Spec feel that he had a totally free choice of which object to draw, which colour to choose and which part of the object to fill with that chosen colour.

In summary, my opinion is that if you treat this as a "self-working trick", then yes, there is real danger that your Spec will know what's going on, and an App/some tech is involved. However, if you treat this as a tool, and understand that it needs a GREAT script, then you will blow your Specs' minds! [/quote]

please read my comment to godan65. [/quote]

Did anyone forced you to buy it?
If you don't like it, continue scrolling, I don't get what you want. one can think its clever or good, if you feel like this isn't your cup of tea then just continue.
Like what the hell
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 05:13AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, amirb401 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, patapon wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?
performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )

performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ? [/quote]


I just purchased this yesterday, and I will say this... it doesn't do the magic in a way that would make it "less obvious", so you MUST have a very strong script to make it "less obvious" so that your Spec would not suspect what is going on, or that an App is involved.

Peter's demo is a great example of how he made his Spec feel that he had a totally free choice of which object to draw, which colour to choose and which part of the object to fill with that chosen colour.

In summary, my opinion is that if you treat this as a "self-working trick", then yes, there is real danger that your Spec will know what's going on, and an App/some tech is involved. However, if you treat this as a tool, and understand that it needs a GREAT script, then you will blow your Specs' minds! [/quote]

please read my comment to godan65. [/quote]

Did anyone forced you to buy it?
If you don't like it, continue scrolling, I don't get what you want. one can think its clever or good, if you feel like this isn't your cup of tea then just continue.
Like what the hell [/quote]

i didn't buy it .
i just wanted to understand whats so smart about that , maybe I missed something .( and I don't )
be happy with your purchase .
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 05:25AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, patapon wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?

I get the impression that some of you haven't even bought this effect and making your own minds up about it.
For those of us who HAVE bought it you will know it does not rely just on peeks you can do it totally without peeks.

performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )

performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ? [/quote]


I just purchased this yesterday, and I will say this... it doesn't do the magic in a way that would make it "less obvious", so you MUST have a very strong script to make it "less obvious" so that your Spec would not suspect what is going on, or that an App is involved.

Peter's demo is a great example of how he made his Spec feel that he had a totally free choice of which object to draw, which colour to choose and which part of the object to fill with that chosen colour.

In summary, my opinion is that if you treat this as a "self-working trick", then yes, there is real danger that your Spec will know what's going on, and an App/some tech is involved. However, if you treat this as a tool, and understand that it needs a GREAT script, then you will blow your Specs' minds! [/quote]

please read my comment to godan65. [/quote]
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 05:27AM)
I saw the performence , and its like I thought . pick a color , now with that color draw the windows. pick another color , now with that one draw the door. and so on...
too obvious .
the only thing I didn't catch is how the number ( 22 ) is match. [/quote]

that's the magic and again if you had bought it you would know the answer!
Message: Posted by: swifthand (May 2, 2020 05:28AM)
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Nathan Alexander wrote:
[quote]On Apr 30, 2020, JamieD wrote:
Those interested in doing so, you can buy a separate domain, normally for very little money. Then divert the apps domain to the one purchased and enable masking. This means, they'll go to your custom domain and it will display that and not the one that comes with the app. The only issue with this is, the Picasso for some reason has the name of the website at the top of the sketch page so your personal address will contradict that of the actual app. Just food for thought! :D

Jamie Daws [/quote]

Hey Jamie - I loved this idea and did it. I'm not opposed to using the regular domain, but with my new one, the drawing doesn't fill the whole page like it does with going the normal, provided URL (with your ID) route. How about you? not sure why... [/quote]

Hey Nathan, this was the first thing I did, you have to use 'cloaked web forwarding' this normally depends on your host as to the iframe code they produce, the drawing fills the whole page for me but as Jamie mentioned the title of the website suddenly becomes tiny for some reason... I personally think they should take the title off altogether. I prefer the idea of having my own domain and forwarding as it won't be long before people type in the name of the picassos domain and ellusionist website will pop up.


On another note, does any one know the reason why they haven't secure the page using https? I have heard he covered this in the instruction video but I have watched them all twice and have missed his explanation for not making the website secure? Anyone here know the reason?
Message: Posted by: Arielhamui (May 2, 2020 05:29AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, amirb401 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, patapon wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 1, 2020, Schism wrote:
App is standalone. [/quote]

thank you.

i read some posts and I understand that some sort of peek is needed , but if you had a prediction from advance , why peek is needed ?
is the performence go like this ?
performer : please choose a color .
( performer peeks the chosen color )

performer : ok, use that color to paint the hat.
and so on....
if that the routine , I think it will be quite obvious to the spectator whats going on , and that an app is involved.

or I missed the whole thing ? [/quote]


I just purchased this yesterday, and I will say this... it doesn't do the magic in a way that would make it "less obvious", so you MUST have a very strong script to make it "less obvious" so that your Spec would not suspect what is going on, or that an App is involved.

Peter's demo is a great example of how he made his Spec feel that he had a totally free choice of which object to draw, which colour to choose and which part of the object to fill with that chosen colour.

In summary, my opinion is that if you treat this as a "self-working trick", then yes, there is real danger that your Spec will know what's going on, and an App/some tech is involved. However, if you treat this as a tool, and understand that it needs a GREAT script, then you will blow your Specs' minds! [/quote]

please read my comment to godan65. [/quote]

Did anyone forced you to buy it?
If you don't like it, continue scrolling, I don't get what you want. one can think its clever or good, if you feel like this isn't your cup of tea then just continue.
Like what the hell [/quote]

i didn't buy it .
i just wanted to understand whats so smart about that , maybe I missed something .( and I don't )
be happy with your purchase . [/quote]

I think you are thinking as a magician...

Color Match was a best seller for years! And tou know why? Because is an amazing efect and give excelent reactions to people!
Any trick you want to perform... in order to be strong... you ned to give a strong performance, with a good script and an amazing presentation.
This trick have many many potential ideas and its fine if you don't see it. But start thinking less as a magician and more as a layman
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 05:34AM)
I asked before but no reply does this app (Android) auto update or do you have to do something?
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 05:54AM)
[/quote]

I think you are thinking as a magician...

Color Match was a best seller for years! And tou know why? Because is an amazing efect and give excelent reactions to people!
Any trick you want to perform... in order to be strong... you ned to give a strong performance, with a good script and an amazing presentation.
This trick have many many potential ideas and its fine if you don't see it. But start thinking less as a magician and more as a layman [/quote]

I think you are thinking as a magician...

Color Match was a best seller for years! And tou know why? Because is an amazing efect and give excelent reactions to people!
Any trick you want to perform... in order to be strong... you ned to give a strong performance, with a good script and an amazing presentation.
This trick have many many potential ideas and its fine if you don't see it. But start thinking less as a magician and more as a layman [/quote]

thank you for your advice . just for your knoledge , I am not a magician at all , only hobbyist that like magic tricks ( card most ) and magic apps. I think like a laymen that is infront of me ( family and friends ) and I think most of them will be suspicious ( of course cause they know I don't have super powers ).
but in the bottom line just cause of my curiosity and the cheap price I probably will buy it.
Message: Posted by: makulit974 (May 2, 2020 06:12AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[/quote]

I think you are thinking as a magician...

Color Match was a best seller for years! And tou know why? Because is an amazing efect and give excelent reactions to people!
Any trick you want to perform... in order to be strong... you ned to give a strong performance, with a good script and an amazing presentation.
This trick have many many potential ideas and its fine if you don't see it. But start thinking less as a magician and more as a layman [/quote]

I think you are thinking as a magician...

Color Match was a best seller for years! And tou know why? Because is an amazing efect and give excelent reactions to people!
Any trick you want to perform... in order to be strong... you ned to give a strong performance, with a good script and an amazing presentation.
This trick have many many potential ideas and its fine if you don't see it. But start thinking less as a magician and more as a layman [/quote]

thank you for your advice . just for your knoledge , I am not a magician at all , only hobbyist that like magic tricks ( card most ) and magic apps. I think like a laymen that is infront of me ( family and friends ) and I think most of them will be suspicious ( of course cause they know I don't have super powers ).
but in the bottom line just cause of my curiosity and the cheap price I probably will buy it. [/quote]

You are most definitely thinking like a magician. If you are not a magician, what are you doing here I wonder.
If you have a minimum of magic knowledge then you have tools in your brain that laymen donít possess.
I have performed Colormatch for 6 years in on my shows to all types of sizes. Not only does it kill the audience but they talk about it long after the show.
But as Amur said, if you donít like it and think itís too stupid for you, donít bother.
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 06:22AM)
You are most definitely thinking like a magician. If you are not a magician, what are you doing here I wonder.
If you have a minimum of magic knowledge then you have tools in your brain that laymen donít possess.
I have performed Colormatch for 6 years in on my shows to all types of sizes. Not only does it kill the audience but they talk about it long after the show.
But as Amur said, if you donít like it and think itís too stupid for you, donít bother. [/quote

why are you wonder ?

are you one of the managers here ? I didn't see here a rules that not allowed hobbyists to be here .
as I wrote I probably will buy it , just for my curiosity .
Message: Posted by: makulit974 (May 2, 2020 06:50AM)
Thatís all you got from my whole message??
Being a hobbyist doesnít disqualify as being a magician....
if you have an interest in magic. If you perform magic to your circle of friends and family, then you are in the right place.
Then as I said your brain is no longer working like of a laymanís.

[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
You are most definitely thinking like a magician. If you are not a magician, what are you doing here I wonder.
If you have a minimum of magic knowledge then you have tools in your brain that laymen donít possess.
I have performed Colormatch for 6 years in on my shows to all types of sizes. Not only does it kill the audience but they talk about it long after the show.
But as Amur said, if you donít like it and think itís too stupid for you, donít bother. [/quote

why are you wonder ?

are you one of the managers here ? I didn't see here a rules that not allowed hobbyists to be here .
as I wrote I probably will buy it , just for my curiosity . [/quote]
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 07:16AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, makulit974 wrote:
Thatís all you got from my whole message??
Being a hobbyist doesnít disqualify as being a magician....
if you have an interest in magic. If you perform magic to your circle of friends and family, then you are in the right place.
Then as I said your brain is no longer working like of a laymanís.

thank you for letting me stay here.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 07:17AM)
This thread is starting to get a little messy now. If you haven't bought the app just leave it alone!
Why pull something to pieces you know nothing about?
If I was the app creator I would be disgusted by the tone of some of the comments here.

Act like grown ups for God's sake, as if we haven't got enough problems in the world right now.

If you haven't bought the stop complaining and comparing.

I am only part way through the instructions but for my limited review, it is an excellent app that had me puzzled until I saw about 3 performances that you get with the well filmed videos.
I think it was the performer at fault more than anything that gave it away to me before I saw the explanation.
As I said before you CAN do this effect WITHOUT PEEKING.

For the price you CANNOT complain.
Well done to the creator/s

Just a note to Ellusionist UPDATE your sales page please!
p.s. still waiting for someone (creator) to let me know if the android app auto updates?
Message: Posted by: SharkTrager442 (May 2, 2020 07:22AM)
Just wanted to chip in here. I'm probably going to buy this but haven't yet. I adore professional grade apps for magic and am limited to Android so take what I can. I do get what Avimag is saying because I watched the demos and didn't for a moment wonder how it was done. I think Colormatch is powerful because there's no apparent tech involved. As soon as you introduce a phone you introduce tech and almost give the audience a pretty obvious clue to what's happening. I know it's about the power of performance but even Peter's demo was pretty explainable if you really thought about it. I love effects that just can't be pieced together. This is not that sadly.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 07:25AM)
When you see the performances on the downloads you will see how much the demo on Ellusionists website has been edited. This is exactly how I fell for a lot of tricks that do not see the light of day now. I think if an effect is strong enough to be sold it should be filmed "AS IS" (not edited for sales purposes), because then if there is a blatant switch etc it shouldn't be sold.
Message: Posted by: mjstmagicman (May 2, 2020 07:31AM)
99% of all my tricks are obvious, without good presentation and also considering who to perform what tricks to. As shown in the video, it is the spectators phone and no visible way of seeing how the magician accessed the information. If as a magician you need to eliminate a phone, go and buy promystics color match, it is flawless, but of course much more 💰. The price of this makes it worthwhile, even if you think it will only work with certain people.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 07:38AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, mjstmagicman wrote:
99% of all my tricks are obvious, without good presentation and also considering who to perform what tricks to. As shown in the video, it is the spectators phone and no visible way of seeing how the magician accessed the information. If as a magician you need to eliminate a phone, go and buy promystics color match, it is flawless, but of course much more 💰. The price of this makes it worthwhile, even if you think it will only work with certain people. [/quote]

I am quoting what you said "As shown in the video, it is the spectators phone and no visible way of seeing how the magician accessed the information".

I don't believe you have purchased this app, if you had and watched the performance videos on the download pages, you will quite clearly see the ways the magician is getting the information from the spectators phone.

As I said the Ellusionist demo is hacked to death in the editing suite so there is no way you know the secret (apart from a good guess).
Message: Posted by: mjstmagicman (May 2, 2020 07:45AM)
I purchased the day it came out and you can have the information sent to you without looking, thatís all Iím going to say
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 08:30AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, mjstmagicman wrote:
I purchased the day it came out and you can have the information sent to you without looking, thatís all Iím going to say [/quote]

I said that!
Message: Posted by: mjstmagicman (May 2, 2020 08:47AM)
Well I assumed he was doing the no peek way, as thatís the most obvious, or he is just such a great magician he misdirected me : :goof:
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 08:53AM)
Still waiting on an answer from LLoyd but I guess he he busy.
Templates were meant to be uploaded last night?
Are the app updates done automatically to your phone?
Thanks
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (May 2, 2020 10:13AM)
Hey guys,

Just a heads up; the update is now LIVE in the Apple App Store.

Please can you let us know at support@ellusionist.com if this fixes the issue you have.


Hope youíre all enjoying it so far!
Lloyd
Message: Posted by: patapon (May 2, 2020 10:25AM)
Just updated my IOS app and it has fixed the only problem I was having... I can now get notifications while the app is closed. This enables me to have my phone set to my home screen and not an open app. Thanks!

However, when I click on "instructions", the app closes and sends me back to my home screen. This does not affect the performance (in fact there was no "instructions" tab before this update), but just thought you would like to know for completeness sake :-)
Message: Posted by: shomemagic (May 2, 2020 11:02AM)
Are there templates or do you have to draw or let them draw something? If so how many and what are they of. Have all the bugs been worked out? I us and android smartphone if that helps any
Message: Posted by: Derotanim (May 2, 2020 11:03AM)
Wish I could say the update fixed the issues I was having, but sadly that's not the case. Have contacted support and hope for another update soon. I really want to get this working, as I truly think it's a fantastic app.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 11:04AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
Still waiting on an answer from LLoyd but I guess he he busy.
Templates were meant to be uploaded last night?
Are the app updates done automatically to your phone?
Thanks [/quote]

Any news on the this please Lloyd?
Sorry for reposting but not getting any answers!
Message: Posted by: Paul S Wingham (May 2, 2020 11:06AM)
Just picked this up after seeing Rooís review and I have to say its impressive on my iphone 11. Works as expected and method is very clever and for the price, itís good value too. Couple of things it needs:

Positive affirmation for black like what happens at the end of other colours.
Definitely needs apple watch support to take to next level (i note issues with apple which I totally understand)

I think if youíre on iphone and like the effect, its a no brainer. If youíre on android, maybe wait a few weeks as bugs get ironed out. Iíve not always been most vocal support of E, but in their defence on android, its tough to cover all the bases and at least they had a go at an app. Most places understandably donít bother.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 11:34AM)
I have been through the instructions once but getting stuck on some explanations.
Where can I go to get some help please without giving too much away here?
Saying that I think the "secrets" have already been given out.
Message: Posted by: Pugwash (May 2, 2020 12:25PM)
I've been trying to set a background image. I click the Background Image option, click Choose Image, select the image, but the black screen with the two buttons (Reset and Choose Image) returns. I can't get the image to load on to the screen.
Help?
Android - Samsung S20
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 2, 2020 12:51PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Paul S Wingham wrote:
Just picked this up after seeing Rooís review and I have to say its impressive on my iphone 11. Works as expected and method is very clever and for the price, itís good value too. Couple of things it needs:

Positive affirmation for black like what happens at the end of other colours.
Definitely needs apple watch support to take to next level (i note issues with apple which I totally understand)

I think if youíre on iphone and like the effect, its a no brainer. If youíre on android, maybe wait a few weeks as bugs get ironed out. Iíve not always been most vocal support of E, but in their defence on android, its tough to cover all the bases and at least they had a go at an app. Most places understandably donít bother. [/quote]
This works great with my iwatch at the moment.
I think this would benefit hugely with some templates and also that as soon as they have picked a colour and touch an area it auto fills it.
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 12:56PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Paul S Wingham wrote:
Just picked this up after seeing Rooís review and I have to say its impressive on my iphone 11. Works as expected and method is very clever and for the price, itís good value too. Couple of things it needs:

Positive affirmation for black like what happens at the end of other colours.
Definitely needs apple watch support to take to next level (i note issues with apple which I totally understand)

I think if youíre on iphone and like the effect, its a no brainer. If youíre on android, maybe wait a few weeks as bugs get ironed out. Iíve not always been most vocal support of E, but in their defence on android, its tough to cover all the bases and at least they had a go at an app. Most places understandably donít bother. [/quote]
This works great with my iwatch at the moment.
I think this would benefit hugely with some templates and also that as soon as they have picked a colour and touch an area it auto fills it. [/quote]

you can get the outcomes in the Aplle Watch ?
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 2, 2020 01:00PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Paul S Wingham wrote:
Just picked this up after seeing Rooís review and I have to say its impressive on my iphone 11. Works as expected and method is very clever and for the price, itís good value too. Couple of things it needs:

Positive affirmation for black like what happens at the end of other colours.
Definitely needs apple watch support to take to next level (i note issues with apple which I totally understand)

I think if youíre on iphone and like the effect, its a no brainer. If youíre on android, maybe wait a few weeks as bugs get ironed out. Iíve not always been most vocal support of E, but in their defence on android, its tough to cover all the bases and at least they had a go at an app. Most places understandably donít bother. [/quote]
This works great with my iwatch at the moment.
I think this would benefit hugely with some templates and also that as soon as they have picked a colour and touch an area it auto fills it. [/quote]

you can get the outcomes in the Aplle Watch ? [/quote]
Yes I get the chose colours
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 2, 2020 01:05PM)
Just saw the new update but disappointed that the templates havenít arrived yet. This will eventually be a great app
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 01:09PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
Just saw the new update but disappointed that the templates havenít arrived yet. This will eventually be a great app [/quote]

How do you get the new update?
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 2, 2020 01:11PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Paul S Wingham wrote:
Just picked this up after seeing Rooís review and I have to say its impressive on my iphone 11. Works as expected and method is very clever and for the price, itís good value too. Couple of things it needs:

Positive affirmation for black like what happens at the end of other colours.
Definitely needs apple watch support to take to next level (i note issues with apple which I totally understand)

I think if youíre on iphone and like the effect, its a no brainer. If youíre on android, maybe wait a few weeks as bugs get ironed out. Iíve not always been most vocal support of E, but in their defence on android, its tough to cover all the bases and at least they had a go at an app. Most places understandably donít bother. [/quote]
This works great with my iwatch at the moment.
I think this would benefit hugely with some templates and also that as soon as they have picked a colour and touch an area it auto fills it. [/quote]

you can get the outcomes in the Aplle Watch ? [/quote]
Yes I get the chose colours [/quote]

thanks
some posts here said that there is no support on Iwatch to this app ( yet ) , but if you can , its a great advantage.
Message: Posted by: Derotanim (May 2, 2020 01:21PM)
Bit of an update:

I figured out why I was only getting a single buzz for each colour - I had "vibrate on silent" toggled to off in my settings. Now that I've turned that on, the haptic feedback works flawlessly.

However, I still can't get the app badge or push notifications to work. Does anyone know if there are any specific settings that need to be enabled (I already have general notifications activated for Picasso)? It would also be great to have the haptics work when the phone is locked or on the home screen.
Message: Posted by: simplymagicweb (May 2, 2020 01:30PM)
Yeah the notifications donít show on my Apple Watch yet, and I havenít updated the software either so thought it would be ok...
Message: Posted by: NeilS (May 2, 2020 02:06PM)
Was interested to read Apple uses have been able to get info on their Apple watches.

Just wondered if any Android uses have managed to pair their smartphones?

If not, I am sure this will come but just wondered.
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (May 2, 2020 02:07PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, simplymagicweb wrote:
Yeah the notifications donít show on my Apple Watch yet, and I havenít updated the software either so thought it would be ok... [/quote]


Thatís definitely something interesting. As I did update to the new iOS and it was a massive mistake with all other apps that use BT remotes. Now none of them work with any remote I own. So I assumed the watch wouldnít work either. However, Iím getting notifications on my Apple Watch with no issues.
Message: Posted by: Paul S Wingham (May 2, 2020 03:02PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, NeilS wrote:
Was interested to read Apple uses have been able to get info on their Apple watches.

Just wondered if any Android uses have managed to pair their smartphones?

If not, I am sure this will come but just wondered. [/quote]

For the avoidance of doubt / for clarity, iíve not paired my apple watch with the app. However, if the app is running and you are on your homescreen (i.e picasso isnít the onscreen app), you get notifications on the phone. If phone screen is off, these go to apple watch, just as normal notifications. The limitation as far as I can tell, is you have to dismiss the notification on watch before You get the next one.
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (May 2, 2020 03:28PM)
I am so glad I bought color match pocket years ago from Craig as I have never ever seen a magic effect released to the community with so many problems as this new app .
I believe it has been bought primarily because itís cheap , everyone is at home and bored , and the real version is a luxury very few can afford .
Itís like a comparing a Skoda to a Ferrari so you get what you pay for .
I also believe getting android involved has also caused the main problems .
With the color match pocket crayon version I bought , the easy way around the spectator not back tracking is to simply act with your back turned that you have no idea they have even pulled a crayon out . Saying ( once you know the colour ) let me know when you have pulled one out because when you have can you colour in the errr shorts .
So you act it out as if you donít even know they have made a selection and you also make out itís an off the cuff last millisecond doesnít matter choice by you the performer what they colour in .
You will never have an issue that way , I hope you can do the same with this as the plot is brilliant Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: pegasus (May 2, 2020 04:04PM)
Agreed. As with all E Apps, give it a couple of weeks to let the unsuspecting Beta testers iron out the issues.
Message: Posted by: Pugwash (May 2, 2020 04:25PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Pugwash wrote:
I've been trying to set a background image. I click the Background Image option, click Choose Image, select the image, but the black screen with the two buttons (Reset and Choose Image) returns. I can't get the image to load on to the screen.
Help?
Android - Samsung S20 [/quote]
Has anyone tried to do this on an iPhone? What was the outcome?
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 04:29PM)
Where is the best place to get support for this app please as I am posting basic answers but getting no replies please?
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 2, 2020 04:57PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
I am so glad I bought color match pocket years ago from Craig as I have never ever seen a magic effect released to the community with so many problems as this new app .
I believe it has been bought primarily because itís cheap , everyone is at home and bored , and the real version is a luxury very few can afford .
Itís like a comparing a Skoda to a Ferrari so you get what you pay for .
I also believe getting android involved has also caused the main problems .
With the color match pocket crayon version I bought , the easy way around the spectator not back tracking is to simply act with your back turned that you have no idea they have even pulled a crayon out . Saying ( once you know the colour ) let me know when you have pulled one out because when you have can you colour in the errr shorts .
So you act it out as if you donít even know they have made a selection and you also make out itís an off the cuff last millisecond doesnít matter choice by you the performer what they colour in .
You will never have an issue that way , I hope you can do the same with this as the plot is brilliant Gaz 🙂 [/quote]
Hi Gaz you definitely can do this with your back turned 😀
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 2, 2020 05:06PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Paul S Wingham wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, NeilS wrote:
Was interested to read Apple uses have been able to get info on their Apple watches.

Just wondered if any Android uses have managed to pair their smartphones?

If not, I am sure this will come but just wondered. [/quote]

For the avoidance of doubt / for clarity, iíve not paired my apple watch with the app. However, if the app is running and you are on your homescreen (i.e picasso isnít the onscreen app), you get notifications on the phone. If phone screen is off, these go to apple watch, just as normal notifications. The limitation as far as I can tell, is you have to dismiss the notification on watch before You get the next one. [/quote]

No you donít have to cancel one notification before getting the next. They just come through one after the other
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 2, 2020 05:13PM)
Does anybody have a link to Peter Turner performing this.
Message: Posted by: Pugwash (May 2, 2020 05:14PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
Does anybody have a link to Peter Turner performing this. [/quote]
https://www.ellusionist.com/picasso-pro.html

Scroll down the page
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 2, 2020 05:32PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Pugwash wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
Does anybody have a link to Peter Turner performing this. [/quote]
https://www.ellusionist.com/picasso-pro.html

Scroll down the page [/quote]

Cheers thatís a great way of doing it especially for a client 😀
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 06:08PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Pugwash wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
Does anybody have a link to Peter Turner performing this. [/quote]
https://www.ellusionist.com/picasso-pro.html

Scroll down the page [/quote]

So I guess the next question is how do you predict a drawing they are going to draw? i.e. the house and number 22?
I did'nt see any explanation for this in the videos?
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 06:09PM)
Anyone have the Android version who wants to buddy up with me to go over the explanation video please?
We could do this on Facebook?
Message: Posted by: SharkTrager442 (May 2, 2020 06:17PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Pugwash wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
Does anybody have a link to Peter Turner performing this. [/quote]
https://www.ellusionist.com/picasso-pro.html

Scroll down the page [/quote]

So I guess the next question is how do you predict a drawing they are going to draw? i.e. the house and number 22?
I did'nt see any explanation for this in the videos? [/quote]

Gary, from memory, if you listen to what Peter asks the spec to draw before coloring, and then for the house number, it will make sense.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 2, 2020 06:20PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, SharkTrager442 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Pugwash wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
Does anybody have a link to Peter Turner performing this. [/quote]
https://www.ellusionist.com/picasso-pro.html

Scroll down the page [/quote]

So I guess the next question is how do you predict a drawing they are going to draw? i.e. the house and number 22?
I did'nt see any explanation for this in the videos? [/quote]

Gary, from memory, if you listen to what Peter asks the spec to draw before coloring, and then for the house number, it will make sense. [/quote]

Thanks I will check tomorrow really tired now, only watched the explanation video once today and I think it was a bit quick, so I need to go over it a few times. I am using Android.
Message: Posted by: Weasel81 (May 2, 2020 06:48PM)
Same issues as Derotanim. I took his advice and switched my phone to silent and now the haptics work.I would like to perform this without having to keep my phone on silent however. Push notifications do come though but I have to touch my screen for the item to change. It does not come through automatically and therefore it is obvious to the spectator that I am messing with my phone instead of just leaving it on the table and ignoring it. Hoping there was a setting on my phone that I missed somewhere. Talk to text is now working.
Message: Posted by: Derotanim (May 2, 2020 07:48PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Weasel81 wrote:
Same issues as Derotanim. I took his advice and switched my phone to silent and now the haptics work.I would like to perform this without having to keep my phone on silent however. Push notifications do come though but I have to touch my screen for the item to change. It does not come through automatically and therefore it is obvious to the spectator that I am messing with my phone instead of just leaving it on the table and ignoring it. Hoping there was a setting on my phone that I missed somewhere. Talk to text is now working. [/quote]

You can perform with your phone on loud (non-silent). If you have "vibrate on ring" toggled on, the haptics should function as intended without the phone needing to be on silent.
Message: Posted by: Weasel81 (May 2, 2020 07:59PM)
Yes that does work! Thank you! Hope we can find something that will help with push notifications!
Message: Posted by: Mark8infiniti (May 2, 2020 08:13PM)
Iíve noticed that after the latest update, the in app labels no longer automatically change when a colour is selected. I have to keep tapping on the phone screen to Ďrefresh ití. Anyone else experiencing this? iPhone 8 Plus
Message: Posted by: JosephKerr (May 2, 2020 08:18PM)
Also using an 8 plus and not experiencing this problem. May be worth deleting and reinstalling.
Great app - super pleased with this. I imagine it will only get better.
Message: Posted by: Derotanim (May 2, 2020 10:08PM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Weasel81 wrote:
Yes that does work! Thank you! Hope we can find something that will help with push notifications! [/quote]
Welcome, and yes - fingers crossed to the rest of it being ironed out soon.
Message: Posted by: tophatter (May 3, 2020 12:18AM)
Geeez ! After reading this thread I am not interested in this effect anymore "Just Forget It " I really like it but it's just not worth the headache ...
Message: Posted by: patapon (May 3, 2020 12:57AM)
[quote]On May 3, 2020, tophatter wrote:
Geeez ! After reading this thread I am not interested in this effect anymore "Just Forget It " I really like it but it's just not worth the headache ... [/quote]

I am using an old iPhone 5SE running iOS13.41, and have ZERO problems after downloading the latest update (v1.1) which I downloaded yesterday from the App store. Everything works as intended. It's a very clever app and for anyone who suggests that buying this is for those who cannot afford to buy the more expensive "Ferrari" version, then I'm afraid that you are incorrectly equating the cost of your tool with the reaction that your audience gets. It is not related, and if you can get incredible reactions from your audience from an effect you learnt for free, then you are the most business savvy magician on the planet!

Also, I read that many are still waiting for the creators to upload ready made templates of drawings, and one of the reasons is that you may not be good at "drawing" on the mobile/computer screen (even with a stylus). I would urge you to consider that to many lay audience, asking them to select a pre-made drawing (even if you use a force from among a selection of pre-made drawings) actually increases the thought that the drawing is being forced upon them. Consider that when a Spec is asked to actually draw the picture (regardless if it is forced), that suspicion actually drops down a few notches. Also, it doesn't matter if you are "not good" at drawing, since it is your Spec who will actually be doing the drawing.

All said, I am really enjoying this, and oddly, I think the most difficult part of this is choosing a suitable Performer ID... and I hate to say this, but the longer you sit on the fence, the more the likelihood all the "most suitable/least suspicious" IDs would have been taken!

Enjoy!
Message: Posted by: godan65 (May 3, 2020 02:33AM)
I bought it for my iPhone7, installed it and tested it. I can agree 100% with the 3 points described by PATAPON (Post above) regarding functioning, self or spectator drawing and ID.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (May 3, 2020 02:38AM)
[quote]On May 3, 2020, tophatter wrote:
Geeez ! After reading this thread I am not interested in this effect anymore "Just Forget It " I really like it but it's just not worth the headache ... [/quote]

Give it a couple of weeks. Lol.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 3, 2020 03:55AM)
Is it Ellusionist I need to contact for support as I am getting no help here?
Message: Posted by: trickster41uk (May 3, 2020 03:58AM)
Really liked the look of this after watching the videos, then scrolling through all the reviews regarding android issues ( I have Samsung Galaxy S20 ) will wait till all bugs are sorted.
Message: Posted by: Paul S Wingham (May 3, 2020 04:51AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Paul S Wingham wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, NeilS wrote:
Was interested to read Apple uses have been able to get info on their Apple watches.

Just wondered if any Android uses have managed to pair their smartphones?

If not, I am sure this will come but just wondered. [/quote]

For the avoidance of doubt / for clarity, iíve not paired my apple watch with the app. However, if the app is running and you are on your homescreen (i.e picasso isnít the onscreen app), you get notifications on the phone. If phone screen is off, these go to apple watch, just as normal notifications. The limitation as far as I can tell, is you have to dismiss the notification on watch before You get the next one. [/quote]

No you donít have to cancel one notification before getting the next. They just come through one after the other [/quote]

Any idea of settings to male this happen as I definitely donít get one before I dismissed one before it
Message: Posted by: NeilS (May 3, 2020 04:53AM)
[quote]On May 3, 2020, tophatter wrote:

All said, I am really enjoying this, and oddly, I think the most difficult part of this is choosing a suitable Performer ID... and I hate to say this, but the longer you sit on the fence, the more the likelihood all the "most suitable/least suspicious" IDs would have been taken!

Enjoy! [/quote]

Excellent advice.

I have just acquired this for my Android and it took quite a few attempts to get an ID I wanted that had not already been taken.

If you are tempted with this app, I echo the advice given, the longer you delay the harder it will be to get a good ID.

Neil
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 3, 2020 05:02AM)
[quote]On May 2, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, SharkTrager442 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Pugwash wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
Does anybody have a link to Peter Turner performing this. [/quote]
https://www.ellusionist.com/picasso-pro.html

Scroll down the page [/quote]

So I guess the next question is how do you predict a drawing they are going to draw? i.e. the house and number 22?
I did'nt see any explanation for this in the videos? [/quote]

Gary, from memory, if you listen to what Peter asks the spec to draw before coloring, and then for the house number, it will make sense. [/quote]

Thanks I will check tomorrow really tired now, only watched the explanation video once today and I think it was a bit quick, so I need to go over it a few times. I am using Android. [/quote]

I watched his performance again and not getting to how he got to house after giving him different options and the house number???
Message: Posted by: geggy (May 3, 2020 05:08AM)
"The longer you wait the harder it will be to get an I.D"
Great sales move short term..but in a few days will it be a total waste of time, unless you settle for a rubbish I.D.
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 3, 2020 05:08AM)
[quote]On May 3, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, SharkTrager442 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, Pugwash wrote:
[quote]On May 2, 2020, rowland wrote:
Does anybody have a link to Peter Turner performing this. [/quote]
https://www.ellusionist.com/picasso-pro.html

Scroll down the page [/quote]

So I guess the next question is how do you predict a drawing they are going to draw? i.e. the house and number 22?
I did'nt see any explanation for this in the videos? [/quote]

Gary, from memory, if you listen to what Peter asks the spec to draw before coloring, and then for the house number, it will make sense. [/quote]

Thanks I will check tomorrow really tired now, only watched the explanation video once today and I think it was a bit quick, so I need to go over it a few times. I am using Android. [/quote]

I watched his performance again and not getting to how he got to house after giving him different options and the house number??? [/quote]

Watch it again itís very subtle but itís there 😀
Message: Posted by: Yosef Ita (May 3, 2020 05:26AM)
After lurking a lot, I post something about the ID problem:

Maybe a solution can be using "Stealth Forwarding":

[quote]
from dynadot.com:
Stealth forwarding is similar to domain forwarding except the domain name stays in the web browser's URL bar instead of being replaced by the new page's URL. This is is why it is called "stealth" forwarding because it appears that the web page displayed is actually part of the domain.
So, say that you have a domain named myexample.org, and you want to use stealth forwarding to have your domain point to http://name.somedomain.com. When you use stealth forwarding, http://www.myexample.org will load the index page located at http://name.somedomain.com, however the http://www.myexample.org address will be displayed in the web browser's URL bar instead of the http://name.somedomain.com address.
[/quote]

So you need to have a domain and use it to do the "Stealth forwarding". I don't own the app, so it I cannot be sure if it works without strange behaviour. If it works, you can register your own domain and choice what suit better for you.
Sorry if my english is bad.
Message: Posted by: NeilS (May 3, 2020 06:37AM)
[quote]On May 3, 2020, geggy wrote:
"The longer you wait the harder it will be to get an I.D"
Great sales move short term..but in a few days will it be a total waste of time, unless you settle for a rubbish I.D. [/quote]

A little bit of creative thinking and you will be fine.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 3, 2020 07:01AM)
Ah! It's finally sunk in the "HOUSE" picture on the second Ellusionist video I get it now! How did he predict a drawing of the house, easy"!
Message: Posted by: trickster41uk (May 3, 2020 08:37AM)
Was not going to buy this just yet but decided to give it a go, working ok on Samsung S20, no issues as yet although not played around with it to much, this is really good, Lloyd Barnes goes through everything so well on the videos, you cant go wrong, just watch the video before creating a user ID, will try this out at work tomorrow,
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 3, 2020 09:03AM)
[quote]On May 3, 2020, NeilS wrote:
[quote]On May 3, 2020, geggy wrote:
"The longer you wait the harder it will be to get an I.D"
Great sales move short term..but in a few days will it be a total waste of time, unless you settle for a rubbish I.D. [/quote]

A little bit of creative thinking and you will be fine. [/quote]

Canít believe people are worried about this
Message: Posted by: trickster41uk (May 3, 2020 09:33AM)
[quote]On May 3, 2020, rowland wrote:
[quote]On May 3, 2020, NeilS wrote:
[quote]On May 3, 2020, geggy wrote:
"The longer you wait the harder it will be to get an I.D"
Great sales move short term..but in a few days will it be a total waste of time, unless you settle for a rubbish I.D. [/quote]

A little bit of creative thinking and you will be fine. [/quote]

Canít believe people are worried about this [/quote]

I just typed in " words relating to Drawing " lots of examples came up.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 3, 2020 01:07PM)
The Unofficial Picasso Pro Facebook Page.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/368267970783877/
Message: Posted by: patapon (May 3, 2020 09:51PM)
[quote]On May 3, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
The Unofficial Picasso Pro Facebook Page.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/368267970783877/ [/quote]

Thanks for sharing!
Message: Posted by: giobbi1 (May 3, 2020 09:59PM)
Haptic feedback is not working on LG 7. Any suggestions?
Message: Posted by: yourimagic (May 4, 2020 03:09AM)
I have been using Picasso Pro for 2 days now with a Samsung Galaxy S8 and it works fine.
I have done three whatsapp video sessions with remote friends and the trick worked perfectly with the house force, like Peter Turner suggested.

In the begining, I regretted that there was no template provided, but after experiencing the trick, I realized that it's not a problem, as it is much more fun to have the spectator draw the sketch themselves and it's all the more organic!

My prediction was clipped in full view during the entire performance and I also authenticated it by writing a personal name on it, like the maiden name of the spectator's mother, or the name of their first pet, or the first name of their grand father, to make sure that I did not cheat by switching the paper during perfomance.
Of course, in a face to face performance in person, this is not necessary, as I just need to have the prediction pocketed by a spectator.

The h....c should be switched off when performing in remote, otherwise the spectator may hear something and so, have a clue.
The h....c works fine, unless I regret there is none for the black color. So when you perform it in person, it's a little issue.

I have bought a domain name and I have done a forwarding to the Picasso Pro URL. It works fine, so the "Performer ID issue" is not really an issue.

Over all, Picasso Pro is an excellent trick because :
- It's organic : no need for any prop except a spectator's smartphone with internet access
- Can be done surrounded
- No need for a table
- No light conditions
- It's fun
- It is strong mentalism
Message: Posted by: Mentalism (May 4, 2020 03:53AM)
Can I use the app in other languages?
Thanks Markus
Message: Posted by: supermago (May 4, 2020 06:22AM)
Working parcially with xiaomi band 4.
The written notification works but not the haptic feedback. Its ok, but will be better with both working.

I have some issues that will explain later. But happy with the app and the idea.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 4, 2020 06:25AM)
53 members in the The Unofficial Picasso Pro app Facebook Page.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/368267970783877/

If you have a problem and no one else can help you know where to find us....
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (May 4, 2020 07:04AM)
NOTIFICATIONS - Hey all, if you're struggling to get notifications for Picasso, one thing we're noticing is that upon installing, people have NOT ALLOWED notifications and are now struggling to get their peek.

Go to settings > Notifications > Picasso Pro

Or Settings > Picasso Pro (depending on your IOS)

Ensure you've accepted all of these and have it all turned on. This should solve almost ALL of your issues.

Anything else, comment below and we'll be happy to push more updates this week to fix any bugs. :)

Thank you for your patience.
Message: Posted by: yourimagic (May 4, 2020 07:17AM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, GeraintClarke wrote:
NOTIFICATIONS - Hey all, if you're struggling to get notifications for Picasso, one thing we're noticing is that upon installing, people have NOT ALLOWED notifications and are now struggling to get their peek.

Go to settings > Notifications > Picasso Pro

Or Settings > Picasso Pro (depending on your IOS)

Ensure you've accepted all of these and have it all turned on. This should solve almost ALL of your issues.

Anything else, comment below and we'll be happy to push more updates this week to fix any bugs. :)



Thank you for your patience. [/quote]

I have turned on the notifications on my Samsung Galaxy S8 and the only heptic notification that does NOT work, for me, is when the spec clicks on BLACK. This is an issue when I perform it in person.
Message: Posted by: Pugwash (May 4, 2020 07:23AM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, yourimagic wrote:
[quote]On May 4, 2020, GeraintClarke wrote:
NOTIFICATIONS - Hey all, if you're struggling to get notifications for Picasso, one thing we're noticing is that upon installing, people have NOT ALLOWED notifications and are now struggling to get their peek.

Go to settings > Notifications > Picasso Pro

Or Settings > Picasso Pro (depending on your IOS)

Ensure you've accepted all of these and have it all turned on. This should solve almost ALL of your issues.

Anything else, comment below and we'll be happy to push more updates this week to fix any bugs. :)



Thank you for your patience. [/quote]

I have turned on the notifications on my Samsung Galaxy S8 and the only heptic notification that does NOT work, for me, is when the spec clicks on BLACK. This is an issue when I perform it in person. [/quote]
Ditto for me. No black heptic notification on Samsung S20 Ultra.
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (May 4, 2020 07:42AM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, Pugwash wrote:
[quote]On May 4, 2020, yourimagic wrote:
[quote]On May 4, 2020, GeraintClarke wrote:
NOTIFICATIONS - Hey all, if you're struggling to get notifications for Picasso, one thing we're noticing is that upon installing, people have NOT ALLOWED notifications and are now struggling to get their peek.

Go to settings > Notifications > Picasso Pro

Or Settings > Picasso Pro (depending on your IOS)

Ensure you've accepted all of these and have it all turned on. This should solve almost ALL of your issues.

Anything else, comment below and we'll be happy to push more updates this week to fix any bugs. :)



Thank you for your patience. [/quote]

I have turned on the notifications on my Samsung Galaxy S8 and the only heptic notification that does NOT work, for me, is when the spec clicks on BLACK. This is an issue when I perform it in person. [/quote]
Ditto for me. No black heptic notification on Samsung S20 Ultra. [/quote]


Black doesn't have it, it never has, because you start on black and it counts as a control.

However, we're adding in customisation for haptic feedback now so you'll be able to choose your own 1-6.

It's being built in this week and we'll keep everyone updated so they can match their current color match choices to the app then :)
Message: Posted by: yourimagic (May 4, 2020 07:57AM)
It makes sense to have heptic for ALL colors, including black, because some spectators may choose black as a color.
This could have happened in Peter Turner's demo, in which black was not the starting colour for the house.
When performed in remote, it's not really an issue, as the visual notification in displayed even for black.
However, when performed in person, the heptic should be turned on and it should work for black too.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 4, 2020 08:08AM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, yourimagic wrote:
[quote]On May 4, 2020, GeraintClarke wrote:
NOTIFICATIONS - Hey all, if you're struggling to get notifications for Picasso, one thing we're noticing is that upon installing, people have NOT ALLOWED notifications and are now struggling to get their peek.

Go to settings > Notifications > Picasso Pro

Or Settings > Picasso Pro (depending on your IOS)

Ensure you've accepted all of these and have it all turned on. This should solve almost ALL of your issues.

Anything else, comment below and we'll be happy to push more updates this week to fix any bugs. :)



Thank you for your patience. [/quote]

I have turned on the notifications on my Samsung Galaxy S8 and the only heptic notification that does NOT work, for me, is when the spec clicks on BLACK. This is an issue when I perform it in person. [/quote]


I have been to settings/notification on my android but Picasso does not show up?
Oops! found it!
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 4, 2020 08:26AM)
Can we please have the option to have more than one saved template?
Message: Posted by: Lloyd Barnes (May 4, 2020 08:35AM)
Hey all,

I'm back in the office now. Hope you all had a great weekend? Firstly, whoah! We are overwhelmed with the unbelievable feedback and reviews from the majority of you! Thank you so, so much! Also, we are beyond greatful for the few of you experiencing bugs and for being patient with us while we roll out updates.

Currently, our developer is adding these features and fixing the following bugs:
- Some notifications Issues on iOS
- Adding 5 pre-defined templates
- Customise color vibration order
- Cross device sizing issues
- Haptic issues fixes
- Repeat vibration controls

We're hoping have these fixed/updated within the next day and submitting to Apple. However, once Apple has recieved the new update, it's at their discretion on how long it takes to approve and go live.

We also now have set up a private Facebook group, purely for Picasso Pro. You can find it here: [url]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PicassoPro/[/url]

There is a specific thread pinned to the top of the page for you all to post all new feature requests and to notify us of any new bugs that may creep up. If you do not have Facebook, please direct ALL issues and feature requests to support@ellusionist.com

We're trying to coalate all questions, issues and requests into one of these two places ([url=https://www.facebook.com/groups/PicassoPro/]Picasso Pro ||Official Facebook Group[/url] & Email support). It's incrediblly difficult to respond to everyone accross so many different platforms and social inbox's. If your message is directed to one of these two plcaes, we guarentee to answer you. If it's PM'd here on the Cafť, Insta, fan pages etc; we can't promise that we'll see it within the necassary time.


Thanks everyone,
Lloyd
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (May 4, 2020 09:50AM)
UPDATE: Notifications should be fixed now.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 4, 2020 10:30AM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, Lloyd Barnes wrote:
Hey all,

I'm back in the office now. Hope you all had a great weekend? Firstly, whoah! We are overwhelmed with the unbelievable feedback and reviews from the majority of you! Thank you so, so much! Also, we are beyond greatful for the few of you experiencing bugs and for being patient with us while we roll out updates.

Currently, our developer is adding these features and fixing the following bugs:
- Some notifications Issues on iOS
- Adding 5 pre-defined templates
- Customise color vibration order
- Cross device sizing issues
- Haptic issues fixes
- Repeat vibration controls

We're hoping have these fixed/updated within the next day and submitting to Apple. However, once Apple has recieved the new update, it's at their discretion on how long it takes to approve and go live.

We also now have set up a private Facebook group, purely for Picasso Pro. You can find it here: [url]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PicassoPro/[/url]

There is a specific thread pinned to the top of the page for you all to post all new feature requests and to notify us of any new bugs that may creep up. If you do not have Facebook, please direct ALL issues and feature requests to support@ellusionist.com

We're trying to coalate all questions, issues and requests into one of these two places ([url=https://www.facebook.com/groups/PicassoPro/]Picasso Pro ||Official Facebook Group[/url] & Email support). It's incrediblly difficult to respond to everyone accross so many different platforms and social inbox's. If your message is directed to one of these two plcaes, we guarentee to answer you. If it's PM'd here on the Cafť, Insta, fan pages etc; we can't promise that we'll see it within the necassary time.


Thanks everyone,
Lloyd [/quote]


Don't forget the android users who have also bought the app when do they get the Templates and updates?
Message: Posted by: falcon2600 (May 4, 2020 11:13AM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, yourimagic wrote:
I have been using Picasso Pro for 2 days now with a Samsung Galaxy S8 and it works fine.
I have done three whatsapp video sessions with remote friends and the trick worked perfectly with the house force, like Peter Turner suggested.

In the begining, I regretted that there was no template provided, but after experiencing the trick, I realized that it's not a problem, as it is much more fun to have the spectator draw the sketch themselves and it's all the more organic!

My prediction was clipped in full view during the entire performance and I also authenticated it by writing a personal name on it, like the maiden name of the spectator's mother, or the name of their first pet, or the first name of their grand father, to make sure that I did not cheat by switching the paper during perfomance.
Of course, in a face to face performance in person, this is not necessary, as I just need to have the prediction pocketed by a spectator.

The h....c should be switched off when performing in remote, otherwise the spectator may hear something and so, have a clue.
The h....c works fine, unless I regret there is none for the black color. So when you perform it in person, it's a little issue.

I have bought a domain name and I have done a forwarding to the Picasso Pro URL. It works fine, so the "Performer ID issue" is not really an issue.

Over all, Picasso Pro is an excellent trick because :
- It's organic : no need for any prop except a spectator's smartphone with internet access
- Can be done surrounded
- No need for a table
- No light conditions
- It's fun
- It is strong mentalism [/quote]

Did you forward your domain to your Picasso Pro ID masquing the URL so that your domain is displayed in the web browser and not your ID? How? Did you use the .htaccess directives?

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: yourimagic (May 4, 2020 11:33AM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, falcon2600 wrote:
[quote]On May 4, 2020, yourimagic wrote:
I have been using Picasso Pro for 2 days now with a Samsung Galaxy S8 and it works fine.
I have done three whatsapp video sessions with remote friends and the trick worked perfectly with the house force, like Peter Turner suggested.

In the begining, I regretted that there was no template provided, but after experiencing the trick, I realized that it's not a problem, as it is much more fun to have the spectator draw the sketch themselves and it's all the more organic!

My prediction was clipped in full view during the entire performance and I also authenticated it by writing a personal name on it, like the maiden name of the spectator's mother, or the name of their first pet, or the first name of their grand father, to make sure that I did not cheat by switching the paper during perfomance.
Of course, in a face to face performance in person, this is not necessary, as I just need to have the prediction pocketed by a spectator.

The h....c should be switched off when performing in remote, otherwise the spectator may hear something and so, have a clue.
The h....c works fine, unless I regret there is none for the black color. So when you perform it in person, it's a little issue.

I have bought a domain name and I have done a forwarding to the Picasso Pro URL. It works fine, so the "Performer ID issue" is not really an issue.

Over all, Picasso Pro is an excellent trick because :
- It's organic : no need for any prop except a spectator's smartphone with internet access
- Can be done surrounded
- No need for a table
- No light conditions
- It's fun
- It is strong mentalism [/quote]

Did you forward your domain to your Picasso Pro ID masquing the URL so that your domain is displayed in the web browser and not your ID? How? Did you use the .htaccess directives?

Thanks. [/quote]

When you buy a domain name, the provider provides an option to forward the domain name to a web site or url.
The other option is the possibility to hide the target url so that your domain name displays in the address bar of your web browser, instead of the target url.
It is that easy!
Message: Posted by: rsikdar2 (May 4, 2020 12:26PM)
Hey guys, I needed some help. I'm an Android user and the app works great except for one thing - during performance, the screen times out and locks after 30 seconds after which I cannot view/p**k the notifications or get haptic feedback while the phone's in my pocket. I've set my "background image" to solid black so my phone appears to be inactive while sitting innocently on the table but covertly displays the "Labels". This of course stops after 30 seconds of inactivity which is the problem for me. Is there a solution to this? Thanks in advance for your help!

-Rick
Message: Posted by: Yosef Ita (May 4, 2020 12:30PM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, yourimagic wrote:
I have bought a domain name and I have done a forwarding to the Picasso Pro URL. It works fine, so the "Performer ID issue" is not really an issue.
[/quote]

Great to know that is working this tips with the app.
Message: Posted by: trickster41uk (May 4, 2020 12:43PM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, rsikdar2 wrote:
Hey guys, I needed some help. I'm an Android user and the app works great except for one thing - during performance, the screen times out and locks after 30 seconds after which I cannot view/p**k the notifications or get haptic feedback while the phone's in my pocket. I've set my "background image" to solid black so my phone appears to be inactive while sitting innocently on the table but covertly displays the "Labels". This of course stops after 30 seconds of inactivity which is the problem for me. Is there a solution to this? Thanks in advance for your help!

-Rick [/quote]

Try this, I had same problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFYDu9X3SOw
Message: Posted by: Pugwash (May 4, 2020 01:11PM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, rsikdar2 wrote:
Hey guys, I needed some help. I'm an Android user and the app works great except for one thing - during performance, the screen times out and locks after 30 seconds after which I cannot view/p**k the notifications or get haptic feedback while the phone's in my pocket. I've set my "background image" to solid black so my phone appears to be inactive while sitting innocently on the table but covertly displays the "Labels". This of course stops after 30 seconds of inactivity which is the problem for me. Is there a solution to this? Thanks in advance for your help!

-Rick [/quote]
I thought I found a way to do this but it doesn't seem to work for me. Maybe you could try your Samsung?
Settings > Apps
scroll to and tap on Picasso
Permissions
Tap the three dots at the top right and select All Permissions
Tap Prevent phone from sleeping
OK

If this doesn't work, I think a 'Stay Awake' App that allows App selection is required.
Message: Posted by: amirb401 (May 4, 2020 01:21PM)
Few bugs iv'e encountered with the "app badge peek" (Android user, Galaxy note s9)
1st, the only way to get the app badge peek (bubble above the app icon) to work is only if you put "display push notifications" to ON aswell. "app badge peek" feature alone will not work without the display push notifications.
Yes, all settings of the app, phone, and battery consumption are checked and set in a way to have no limitations on the app.
2nd, this bug causes another problem:
When using BOTH app badge peek & push notifications, when I'm on the home screen and get a thump of a color, not only that the number on the app bubble changes(Which is good) but that I get a VISIBLE notification from the app stating whatever label you've set. causing double notifications.
If I want to use the app badge peek I should be able to use it without having the push notif's on, to avoid constant messages on my screen that can cause suspicion.
3rd, when using those 2 features (app badge & push notif's), sometimes the number id on the app badge stacks instead of keeping a single ID.
For example, spectator have chosen the color blue, then green.
I had the ID "5" (blue, 5vibrations) and then I get "9" instead of 4.
i managed to reach up to 13, then it goes from 12 to 13 and so on.
the only way to avoid this is if you have the Consolidate push notifications.
4th (and hopefully last 🙂 ) when I'm on my phone homescreen and a spectator entered the site with my ID, I get a notification for the color black automatically, and yet the ID on the app is changed into "1" (which can cause confusion since 1 equals RED color aswell).


tl;dr:
If you want to have App badge feature on android working, you HAVE to enable "Display push notifications" AND "Consolidate push notifications". this shouldn't be the case, as some feature qualities override the other and should be fixed.
Also, when receiving a thump for the color black, please make sure we get an ID of "0" and not "1" as this cause conflict of 2 colors.


Hopefully this could be resolved, let me know if there's any questions.
Thanks!
Message: Posted by: NeilS (May 4, 2020 01:32PM)
I am still in the early stages of getting to grips with this but so far I have been really impressed by the seamless way everything works. I am definitely no techie but soon got this installed and working on my Android (Blackberry) and, in next to no time, had it synced with my Samsung Smartwatch.

Well done to Ellusionist and all involved.

Neil
Message: Posted by: Weasel81 (May 4, 2020 03:46PM)
IPhone 7 IOS 13.4.1 Update-Notifications not fixed.
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 4, 2020 04:06PM)
IPhone 7+ IOS 13.4.1
Everything works perfectly fine as far as performing the trick. Notifications, badges, haptics, all work as they are supposed to.

When tapping ďInstructionsĒ in app it immediately crashes and closes the app. But thatís not a big deal as I donít need them so no reason to do that.

My wish list is very short.
I would love to get some templates pre-loaded and I would love for black to also generate a notification and haptic.

The only other quibble is Iím not a huge fan of the .co domain because many people arenít familiar with it and type .com out of habit. So itís just one more little thing you have to emphasize and stay on top of so even though itís not a big deal itís a bit annoying. Iíd probably prefer another domain but overall a really great app and surprisingly inexpensive.
Message: Posted by: Weasel81 (May 4, 2020 05:32PM)
Videoman,

Do you think you might have a setting that could be different than mine somehow? Just a thought since we are operating with the same equipment. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 4, 2020 06:15PM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, Weasel81 wrote:
Videoman,

Do you think you might have a setting that could be different than mine somehow? Just a thought since we are operating with the same equipment. Thanks! [/quote]

Seems likely. Did you allow notifications in phone settings?
What isn't working for you, just notifications?
Is everything else working fine?
Message: Posted by: Weasel81 (May 4, 2020 07:11PM)
The notifications, haptics, badges, and text to talk all work but they don't come through naturally. I have to touch my phone once someone chooses a color to be able to see a change was made. Kind of weird but just checking. My diagnostics all show green.
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 4, 2020 07:14PM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, Weasel81 wrote:
The notifications, haptics, badges, and text to talk all work but they don't come through naturally. I have to touch my phone once someone chooses a color to be able to see a change was made. Kind of weird but just checking. My diagnostics all show green. [/quote]

PM'ed you
Message: Posted by: MagicallyMe (May 4, 2020 08:44PM)
Hmmmm. Iím getting a flood of pop up messages fro: the app today, and Iím not can using it.
Anyone else?
Message: Posted by: patapon (May 4, 2020 09:43PM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, MagicallyMe wrote:
Hmmmm. Iím getting a flood of pop up messages fro: the app today, and Iím not can using it.
Anyone else? [/quote]

Are you (an early purchaser) who is using one of the "ideal" IDs? eg. /new, /newsketch, /page, /newpage, etc?

If so (ie. you have one of those "ideal" IDs, then a whole bunch of people watching the trailer and Lloyd's over-advertised "SEE THIS FIRST" may be messing around with your page!!!

WARNING!!! When I selected my ID, I wanted something logical and easy for Spec to key in (eg. /new), but then I quickly realized that ANYONE could access that page and mess around with it!

At the moment, I don't think there is way to prevent this, so you may want to contact them (or post in their official FB page) as an issue for them to fix. Only thing I guess you can do for now is to clear your page right before you start, and hope that nobody is online messing with it while you perform...
Message: Posted by: MagicallyMe (May 4, 2020 10:56PM)
Well, that plays right into a question I was wanting answered.
How do we prevent previous participants from messing up our next show?
The explanation shows how to have only one person in a show able to connect.
But this is something different, and Iíve been getting color message on and off for the last several hours.
Message: Posted by: patapon (May 4, 2020 11:39PM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, MagicallyMe wrote:
Well, that plays right into a question I was wanting answered.
How do we prevent previous participants from messing up our next show?
The explanation shows how to have only one person in a show able to connect.
But this is something different, and Iíve been getting color message on and off for the last several hours. [/quote]

You can join their official FB and raise the matter. In fact, someone has already raised this, but as of now, there has been no response/suggestions from E.

So for now, the short answer is you can't do anything about it, and you just have to clear your page (or draw your template) just before you start, and pray that noone "decides" to draw on your site during your performance! If something does happen during your performance that neither you nor your Spec initiated, you better have some script to explain the real magic that is happening!!!
Message: Posted by: sci26808 (May 4, 2020 11:51PM)
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Mac_Stone wrote:
[quote]On Apr 29, 2020, Greg Rostami wrote:
Hmmmm ...
How is this different from Steven Ng's Colourz which was released September 2019?

[youtube]XSX0gq3UmCM[/youtube] [/quote]

It's not, and yet it is.

The Picasso routine, which has become synonymous with the Color Match effect, is the intellectual property of Craig Filicetti the founder of Promystic.

It is Craig's routine and it was released along along side his product. The routine itself as well as the Color Match effect have gone on the be knocked off countless times, including the product you referenced here.

[quote]Craig Filicetti:
I should mention Ellusionist is the ONLY company I have authorized the use of ProMystic's original routine. Many people have used our routine and even our videos to sell their products without my approval and against my expressed desire for them to stop! [/quote]

Greg, I'm sure you can appreciate Craig's desire to protect his intellectual property and I would hope everyone reading this thread will choose to support original creators rather than knock off competitors.


Again, this release from Ellusionist is the ONLY authorized version of this effect to be produced by any company other than Promystic. [/quote]

Hi. Steven Ng, creator of Colourz here.

I've only been dabbling in the magic/mentalist community for a little under 2 years and wanted to chime in. Prior to Ellusionist's release of their Picasso Pro App, and my subsequent cordial conversation with Craig Filicetti last week, I was not aware of the history of his Picasso routine and it's influence on Color Match routines. While I saw other Color Match routines, I was originally inspired by David Kwong's TedX talk which I know now is the same as the Picasso routine. In our zoom video session, Craig expressed the history of Picasso, I shared Colourz, and it appeared Craig acknowledged and appreciated some of the unique features Colourz offers.

Colourz is my second Inject web based app, independently developed for the working magician/mentalists who wants creative flexibility. It can be performed on any phone, and includes peek information not provided by Picasso or other apps. It has been known in the Inject community since September/October 2019 and sold as an annual subscription.

Features in Colourz opens up other possibilities outside of the Picasso routine with multiple outs and additional kickers.

Colourz is designed for the working magician, for those who don't want a one trick pony. Paired with my Inject add-on SCI, you can start from "Google", end with Colourz, or vice versa and have layered routines linking to other mentalism routines, like knowing the freely entered search phrase entered by the spectator.

Effects

- Free Colourz - A paper free effect. Spectator freely chooses an image, freely chooses the colors, and freely chooses where to paint.

- True Colourz (requires Inject) - Popularized in the Inject community, the spectator is given an uncolored physical image and non-electronic markers to freely color in (free choice of a non digital marker or crayon, and free choice where to color), a prediction on any phone matches.

- Lazy Colourz - No physical prediction or prepared paper images. You perform a prediction on a borrowed phone, the Spectator FREELY colors on their phone. At the end, both match.

Recent feedback from members who have both Colourz and Picasso Pro, indicate both have their place, but Colourz provides the most flexibility, is generally more "organic and natural", provides a lot of flexibility, multiple ways to perform, allows you to call "audibles", and handle do it again moments. The choice to use these tools, including the Promystic products, depends on situation.

Best,

Steven
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 5, 2020 04:05AM)
Hi. Steven Ng, creator of Colourz here.

I've only been dabbling in the magic/mentalist community for a little under 2 years and wanted to chime in. Prior to Ellusionist's release of their Picasso Pro App, and my subsequent cordial conversation with Craig Filicetti last week, I was not aware of the history of his Picasso routine and it's influence on Color Match routines. While I saw other Color Match routines, I was originally inspired by David Kwong's TedX talk which I know now is the same as the Picasso routine. In our zoom video session, Craig expressed the history of Picasso, I shared Colourz, and it appeared Craig acknowledged and appreciated some of the unique features Colourz offers.

Colourz is my second Inject web based app, independently developed for the working magician/mentalists who wants creative flexibility. It can be performed on any phone, and includes peek information not provided by Picasso or other apps. It has been known in the Inject community since September/October 2019 and sold as an annual subscription.

Features in Colourz opens up other possibilities outside of the Picasso routine with multiple outs and additional kickers.

Colourz is designed for the working magician, for those who don't want a one trick pony. Paired with my Inject add-on SCI, you can start from "Google", end with Colourz, or vice versa and have layered routines linking to other mentalism routines, like knowing the freely entered search phrase entered by the spectator.

Effects

- Free Colourz - A paper free effect. Spectator freely chooses an image, freely chooses the colors, and freely chooses where to paint.

- True Colourz (requires Inject) - Popularized in the Inject community, the spectator is given an uncolored physical image and non-electronic markers to freely color in (free choice of a non digital marker or crayon, and free choice where to color), a prediction on any phone matches.

- Lazy Colourz - No physical prediction or prepared paper images. You perform a prediction on a borrowed phone, the Spectator FREELY colors on their phone. At the end, both match.

Recent feedback from members who have both Colourz and Picasso Pro, indicate both have their place, but Colourz provides the most flexibility, is generally more "organic and natural", provides a lot of flexibility, multiple ways to perform, allows you to call "audibles", and handle do it again moments. The choice to use these tools, including the Promystic products, depends on situation.

Best,

Steven [/quote]

is colourz an app ? couldn't find it in IOS appstore.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (May 5, 2020 05:07AM)
You must have inject 2 to perform Colourz
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (May 5, 2020 05:21AM)
I seem to have ran into the problem where I need to tap the screen in between colours.
This is not ideal to be honest.
Is there a fix for this?
Message: Posted by: lunatik (May 5, 2020 06:26AM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, pegasus wrote:
You must have inject 2 to perform Colourz [/quote]


and personally speaking, I wouldn't want to have to pay an annual fee to perform it. It seems like some are jumping on the bandwagon of subscription fees to perform, similar to microsoft. I'd rather pay a higher but one time amount than a never ending yearly subscription.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (May 5, 2020 06:46AM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, lunatik wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, pegasus wrote:
You must have inject 2 to perform Colourz [/quote]


and personally speaking, I wouldn't want to have to pay an annual fee to perform it. It seems like some are jumping on the bandwagon of subscription fees to perform, similar to microsoft. I'd rather pay a higher but one time amount than a never ending yearly subscription. [/quote]

Me neither. Itís not that good anyway judging by the demo.

Although subscriptions give impetus on the devs to ensure their apps are kept up to date.
Message: Posted by: dooblehorn (May 5, 2020 07:54AM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, lunatik wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, pegasus wrote:
You must have inject 2 to perform Colourz [/quote]


and personally speaking, I wouldn't want to have to pay an annual fee to perform it. It seems like some are jumping on the bandwagon of subscription fees to perform, similar to microsoft. I'd rather pay a higher but one time amount than a never ending yearly subscription. [/quote]

Yes, agreed, subscription disqualifies it for me....although I made an exception for the Stranger
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 5, 2020 08:01AM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, pegasus wrote:
You must have inject 2 to perform Colourz [/quote]

i have inject 2 but a long time didn't play with it . do I need something more for Colourz ?

in Injet FB group I saw something about CSI but didn't understand what is it.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (May 5, 2020 08:50AM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, pegasus wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, lunatik wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, pegasus wrote:
You must have inject 2 to perform Colourz [/quote]


and personally speaking, I wouldn't want to have to pay an annual fee to perform it. It seems like some are jumping on the bandwagon of subscription fees to perform, similar to microsoft. I'd rather pay a higher but one time amount than a never ending yearly subscription. [/quote]

Me neither. Itís not that good anyway judging by the demo.

Although subscriptions give impetus on the devs to ensure their apps are kept up to date. [/quote]

true on keeping their apps updated. Maybe divide up the full price of the app into let's say 5 years and have the yearly subscription at that rate?
Message: Posted by: rsikdar2 (May 5, 2020 08:55AM)
[quote]On May 4, 2020, Pugwash wrote:
[quote]On May 4, 2020, rsikdar2 wrote:
Hey guys, I needed some help. I'm an Android user and the app works great except for one thing - during performance, the screen times out and locks after 30 seconds after which I cannot view/p**k the notifications or get haptic feedback while the phone's in my pocket. I've set my "background image" to solid black so my phone appears to be inactive while sitting innocently on the table but covertly displays the "Labels". This of course stops after 30 seconds of inactivity which is the problem for me. Is there a solution to this? Thanks in advance for your help!

-Rick [/quote]
I thought I found a way to do this but it doesn't seem to work for me. Maybe you could try your Samsung?
Settings > Apps
scroll to and tap on Picasso
Permissions
Tap the three dots at the top right and select All Permissions
Tap Prevent phone from sleeping
OK

If this doesn't work, I think a 'Stay Awake' App that allows App selection is required. [/quote]

Hey there - thanks for the tip. I did what you suggested and see that the app does seem to have the capability to "prevent phone from sleeping" but for some reason, does not. Is this a bug on the Android version? I hope someone from the team takes a look at it soon.
Message: Posted by: simplymagicweb (May 5, 2020 10:52AM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, pegasus wrote:
You must have inject 2 to perform Colourz [/quote]

And you also need another add-on called SCI too.
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 5, 2020 11:25AM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, simplymagicweb wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, pegasus wrote:
You must have inject 2 to perform Colourz [/quote]

And you also need another add-on called SCI too. [/quote]

i have Inject 2 long time . whats that SCI ? is it another app that I have to buy ?
Message: Posted by: sci26808 (May 5, 2020 12:13PM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, simplymagicweb wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, pegasus wrote:
You must have inject 2 to perform Colourz [/quote]

And you also need another add-on called SCI too. [/quote]

Actually you do not. But guys that have colourz like having the connection back and forth. Is this Sean? :p
Message: Posted by: simplymagicweb (May 5, 2020 01:22PM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, sci26808 wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, simplymagicweb wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, pegasus wrote:
You must have inject 2 to perform Colourz [/quote]

And you also need another add-on called SCI too. [/quote]

Actually you do not. But guys that have colourz like having the connection back and forth. Is this Sean? :p [/quote]

Hi Steven - yes hope youíre good buddy. I thought Colourz needed to run in the SCI environment - if it doesnít, then Iíd certainly be interested in it. Please can you pm me the details
Message: Posted by: Chris Jenkins (May 5, 2020 02:36PM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, reignofsound wrote:
I seem to have ran into the problem where I need to tap the screen in between colours.
This is not ideal to be honest.
Is there a fix for this? [/quote]


I have exactly this problem. I get the thump, but only when I pro-actively tap the screen in between each colour. Not particularly usable in which case.
Any help appreciated!
Message: Posted by: Weasel81 (May 5, 2020 02:45PM)
Chris, you are not alone! I have been dealing with this since day 1. I updated to 1.2 today but no different. I receive the notifications but only after I touch the screen. This works the same with haptics and voice. Maybe they will get this fixed because it is hard to perform whole having to play with your phone! I am using Iphone 7 IOS 13.4.1
Message: Posted by: The Unmasked Magician (May 5, 2020 02:57PM)
Seems like after Console E managed to find another group of paying beta testers...
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (May 5, 2020 03:38PM)
Android (all updates live)

Version 1.2.0

ē There is now a quick triple tap before each series of pulses of haptic feedback when a color is selected.

ē You can now specify the amount of times a series of vibration pulses will repeat on a per color basis.
If a new color notification is received whilst an old repeat cycle is part way through, the old one will be discarded and the new started immediately, with a triple tap before the new series of pulses.

ē You can now specify the pause interval between haptic pulses and pause interval between repeats independently of one another.

ē The interval between pulses is the pause between each pulse of a specific color, the interval between repeats is the pause between each repeat cycle

ē Added a link to the Facebook group in the options

ē Added a Change Log

Version 1.1.0

ē Link to performance instructions added to options
ē Bug fixes and general improvements

Version 1.0.16

ē Fixes an issue that cause an app crash on start up on Android P
ē Added Swipe Hint to main screen. This is only shown until the options have been opened
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (May 5, 2020 03:39PM)
IOS Changes:

Version 1.3 (Awaiting Approval in the app store)

ē Fixes an issue that could cause the haptic pulse interval to not be applied

ē Fixes an issue that could cause Picasso to crash upon opening the instructions if stored credentials failed to load due to a storage error. Picasso will force a re-sign in if this happens.

Version 1.2 (Approved and live on the App Store)

ē On supported devices (iPhone 6S and above) the triple tap has been moved to before the series of vibration pulses instead of afterward

ē You can now specify the amount of times a series of vibration pulses will repeat on a per color basis.
If a new color notification is received whilst an old repeat cycle is part way through, the old one will be discarded and the new started immediately, with a triple tap before the new series of pulses.
On devices that don't have a Taptic engine (iPhone 6 and earlier), this triple tap will be substituted a delay equal to the Interval Between Repeats setting

ē You can now specify the pause interval between haptic pulses and pause interval between repeats independently of one another.

ē The interval between pulses is the pause between each pulse of a specific color, the interval between repeats is the pause between each repeat cycle

ē The diagnostics now show the speed of your interval settings in relation to the ProMystic defaults

ē Improved notification reliability, added a NotificationExtension to handle color name customisations

ē Notification Display preferences are now in the System Settings app. Banner notifications won't show at all when if have Picasso open. If Picasso is in the background, you'll only see banner notifications if you've enabled them in the Settings app

ē Added a link to the Facebook group in the options

ē Added a diagnostic item to check if the current device language is supported by text to speech

ē Added a diagnostic item that reads out the current device hardware model

ē Added a Change Log

ē Adds support for saving a full window screenshot of the Diagnostics page to PDF in iOS 13. When taking a screenshot, tap the thumbnail that shows up at the bottom of your screen then tap "Full Page" near the top

ē Fixed the status message display in the Create Account screen
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (May 5, 2020 03:53PM)
IOS v1.3 has been approved - just now.

It may take some time to propagate to the stores but it should be live worldwide within 24 hours

Download please :)
Message: Posted by: Weasel81 (May 5, 2020 04:04PM)
Efforts appreciated, thank you! Maybe in 1.4 there could be a fix that allows receiving notifications without having to touch the phone.
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 5, 2020 07:42PM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
Seems like after Console E managed to find another group of paying beta testers... [/quote]

lmao ouch!

Guilty as charged :)

I'm liking it a LOT though so far and zero buyers remorse. If I had to find a complaint, it would be about Lloyd. He has an excessive number of L's in his name. Aside from that, this is a fantastic effect and a straight forward app. (Iphone8 btw)
E support responded to a question lightning fast which was appreciated.
Maybe once I road test it I'll have a change of heart, but I doubt it. This feels like its going to be a killer.
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (May 5, 2020 08:23PM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, 252life wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
Seems like after Console E managed to find another group of paying beta testers... [/quote]

lmao ouch!

Guilty as charged :)

I'm liking it a LOT though so far and zero buyers remorse. If I had to find a complaint, it would be about Lloyd. He has an excessive number of L's in his name. Aside from that, this is a fantastic effect and a straight forward app. (Iphone8 btw)
E support responded to a question lightning fast which was appreciated.
Maybe once I road test it I'll have a change of heart, but I doubt it. This feels like its going to be a killer. [/quote]


I gotta echo this as well.. Aside from some past experiences with E., this one is a keeper for me. ..................... easy to use. And no real performance stopping issues.
Message: Posted by: dooblehorn (May 5, 2020 09:21PM)
Thanks to E for the updates...did I miss the 5 additional templates Lloyd had mentioned?
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 6, 2020 01:01AM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, dooblehorn wrote:
Thanks to E for the updates...did I miss the 5 additional templates Lloyd had mentioned? [/quote]
😂😂😂
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (May 6, 2020 04:48AM)
[quote]On May 5, 2020, dooblehorn wrote:
Thanks to E for the updates...did I miss the 5 additional templates Lloyd had mentioned? [/quote]

Nope. Designed and being coded in, but it's not a drag and drop kinda problem.... so templates will take a little longer.

It's a top priority for us, so we've not forgotten :)
Message: Posted by: The Unmasked Magician (May 6, 2020 07:36AM)
[quote]On May 6, 2020, Lonnie_Lyerla wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, 252life wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
Seems like after Console E managed to find another group of paying beta testers... [/quote]

lmao ouch!

Guilty as charged :)

I'm liking it a LOT though so far and zero buyers remorse. If I had to find a complaint, it would be about Lloyd. He has an excessive number of L's in his name. Aside from that, this is a fantastic effect and a straight forward app. (Iphone8 btw)
E support responded to a question lightning fast which was appreciated.
Maybe once I road test it I'll have a change of heart, but I doubt it. This feels like its going to be a killer. [/quote]


I gotta echo this as well.. Aside from some past experiences with E., this one is a keeper for me. ..................... easy to use. And no real performance stopping issues. [/quote]

That's great to hear, guys! :cheers:
Message: Posted by: ElDan88 (May 6, 2020 11:20AM)
It's really annoying that the new chosen color is just displayed when I tap my screen. For presentation over Zoom and telephone it's okay, but when Corona is killed :-P this won't be useable in the world outside...
Message: Posted by: jms15 (May 6, 2020 11:35AM)
[quote]On May 6, 2020, ElDan88 wrote:
It's really annoying that the new chosen color is just displayed when I tap my screen. For presentation over Zoom and telephone it's okay, but when Corona is killed :-P this won't be useable in the world outside... [/quote]
Mine is working as intended. When a color is chosen, it automatically appears as a label on my screen, it doesn't require me to touch the screen. I'm on Android, Pixel 2 phone.
Message: Posted by: ElDan88 (May 6, 2020 11:42AM)
I'm on Samsung A50 with android. I don't get any label on the icon of the app and on the "lockscreen" it just shows the new color when I tap. Same with haptics.
Message: Posted by: jms15 (May 6, 2020 12:34PM)
[quote]On May 6, 2020, ElDan88 wrote:
I'm on Samsung A50 with android. I don't get any label on the icon of the app and on the "lockscreen" it just shows the new color when I tap. Same with haptics. [/quote]
The Picasso app is the "active" app? You haven't closed it? Are you seeing your chosen background image? All the labels show up fine on mine, as do the haptics.
Message: Posted by: ElDan88 (May 6, 2020 01:11PM)
Yes, it's the active App, dind't close it and when I see my chosen background image, the chosen color is just shown in the bottom when I tap and then the haptics start to vibrate at the same time.
Message: Posted by: Mark8infiniti (May 6, 2020 05:16PM)
Thought it was fair to post that my app is working perfectly now.
Thatís a Great turn around time from E to put the bugs right... Iím deep in app development and I know how hard that first week can be.
Message: Posted by: Weasel81 (May 6, 2020 06:19PM)
Did they just start working or did you have to mess with settings? I still have to touch the screen to receive any notifications or haptics
. I updated to 1.3 and running 13.4.1 on Iphone 7.
Message: Posted by: dooblehorn (May 6, 2020 06:39PM)
[quote]On May 6, 2020, GeraintClarke wrote:
[quote]On May 5, 2020, dooblehorn wrote:
Thanks to E for the updates...did I miss the 5 additional templates Lloyd had mentioned? [/quote]

Nope. Designed and being coded in, but it's not a drag and drop kinda problem.... so templates will take a little longer.

It's a top priority for us, so we've not forgotten :) [/quote]

Geraint,
thanks for the update!
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (May 6, 2020 08:30PM)
So...Is the Android version good to go? I bought it right away, but it crashed immediately. So I haven't touched it since. Figured with the quick responses to bugs that I would wait a week and see where we are :)
Message: Posted by: supermago (May 7, 2020 07:00AM)
I am an android user.
I don't know how to "lock" just one user to perform the effect. It loosks like that anyone with the link can draw and interfere during performance.

In apple I saw that you can lock the firs device conected, Ņis that suitable in android version?
Message: Posted by: WillJonesMagic (May 7, 2020 07:33AM)
Afternoon everyone,

E's app developer here, thank you for your patience over the last week or so whilst we get these issues ironed out.
I thought I'd post a slightly more in depth explanation concerning some of the issues that have been raised.

Android:
The initial (and huge) crash-causing issue that plagued the first version has been fixed. Believe it or not, this was due to Google changing how a some of the under-the-hood stuff inside Android worked, causing (of all things) the anti-piracy measures within Picasso to fall over, taking the rest of the app down with it. We weren't the only people caught out by this; it's affected enough developers that a quick Google search of the generic looking error message Crashlytics reported to us returned multiple StackOverflow threads with both the cause of and solution to the problem. The upside to that was the incredibly fast turnaround time on getting a fix released.
It mainly affected devices running Android 10 and the code in question doesn't run when the app's launched in my development environment. As you can probably imagine, there are thousands of different android devices out there and with the majority of Team E using iPhones, we have a very limited subset of devices on which to test so there are understandably issues that manage to sneak their way past us.


Notifications:
There have been numerous issues with Notifications not working as intended, primarily on iOS. These have largely been resolved through a combination of app updates (all of which are currently live on the stores) and updates to the backend code that fires these off via a third party service to APNS/Firebase.
To be clear: It is push notifications that allow Picasso to work automatically and seamlessly (without any performer interaction), even if you're not using the traditional banners or alerts that we're all used to/are keeping Picasso open as you perform.

There is however, still an issue that we are working to resolve that's causing a few folk to not get notifications through:

Let's say you've created your account with a performer ID of Picasso (with a capital P), but use picasso (with a lower case p) when loading up the drawing pad on the spectator's device.
This exact scenario will cause issues with push notifications getting through. Yep, it is indeed that daft.

So, what are we doing to fix it?

There will be an update going out in the next few days that will attempt to auto-correct this problem (although you *may* be asked to re-sign in to Picasso if it can't fix it by itself)
In the meantime if you are having issues, sign in to Picasso using an all lowercase version of your performer ID and ensure you use an all lowercase version of this when loading the drawing pad on the spectator's device.

As of the time of writing, the current iOS version is 1.3 and Android version is 1.2.0.
If you're reading this in the future and the version on your device it later than those above, this issue will have already been fixed.


Templates:
We're still working on built in template options. As G's already mentioned they have been designed. I'm working on building them in, but it's not quite as simple as dropping in an image - Picasso uses a custom vector-based drawing system so it'll take a little time to get those done.

There's currently a scaling issue that occurs within quicksketch itself.
If you draw your own template, say on an iPhone XS Max (and take up the whole canvas), and then load that up on an iPhone 5, part of the template will end up clipped off the screen.
The same but the other way around, if you draw a template on an iPhone 5 but load it on an XS Max, it'll look squashed up in the corner.
There's an update coming to quicksketch that'll autoscale the drawing to the available space on the spectator's device. This has already been built, however the update that contains it also contains a whole bunch of backend updates too, so these are naturally going to be well tested before a rollout.

There's also an additional feature coming that'll allow you change the QuickSketch title to something custom (or even remove it altogether). Useful for anyone that may wish to set up a redirect from (or iframe in quicksketch) their own website.


There are a few other things that we're working on to both improve the user experience and reliability of Picasso as well as enhance it with new features as a result of feedback from the community.

Thanks to everyone that's downloaded it so far, to those that have taken the time to work with us to resolve issues and request new features and for your patience whilst we fix problems as and when they arise.
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (May 7, 2020 10:07AM)
Fantastic Will, great communication. I myself haven't had any problems (other than the initial crashing) and it works great. Thanks for your work on this.
Message: Posted by: Weasel81 (May 7, 2020 11:57AM)
Will, I had the problem with notifications not going through. You are exactly right. I signed in with all lower case letters and it works like a dream! Thanks so much for the patience and efforts. Love it now!
Message: Posted by: Puzzlemaker (May 7, 2020 01:17PM)
Maybe its better to wait a little bit more before releasing an effect. Did Ellusionist did not tested the App enough before put it on the magic market?
Message: Posted by: jms15 (May 7, 2020 01:29PM)
Thanks for the info, Will!

Regarding the templates, will we have the ability to upload our own drawings to use as a template? For instance from a pre-existing file?
Message: Posted by: NeilS (May 7, 2020 01:37PM)
As an Android user I have found all is working as it should, including to my smartphone.

It is refreshing to have such a great app which can be used on Androids.

Very impressed and pleased.
Message: Posted by: Sean Xem (May 7, 2020 09:27PM)
My bad if this has already been answered.

Iím waiting to purchase until templates are released. Are they available yet on the app?
Message: Posted by: dooblehorn (May 7, 2020 11:07PM)
WillJones
Thanks so much for your hard work, it's appreciated!
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 8, 2020 12:04AM)
Iíve had a chance to road test it a bit now and think itís fantastic.
Message: Posted by: The Unmasked Magician (May 8, 2020 12:16AM)
Were you wearing gloves and a mask and did you inject disinfectant afterwards?
Message: Posted by: ElDan88 (May 8, 2020 01:02AM)
Logging out and logging back in with ALL LETTER small, really solved all my problems.
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 8, 2020 03:07AM)
[quote]On May 8, 2020, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
Were you wearing gloves and a mask and did you inject disinfectant afterwards? [/quote]

No need! I purchased a prototype Space Force suit. Sure I look like Mysterio now, but Iím 100% Covid safe :)
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 8, 2020 03:08AM)
You said inject....
3...2...1..

Hello Greg!
Message: Posted by: WillJonesMagic (May 8, 2020 05:45AM)
The pairing is automatic. Here's a quick explanation:

When a spectator navigates to your link, a unique identifier (a performance ID) is generated and sent to our servers as part of a pairing request.
If there's no other performance in progress, this pairing is successful.
If there is another performance in progress, the backend ignores this pairing request.
This performance ID is also saved to the browser's local storage, allowing a performance to continue if the spectator gets interrupted by phone call, refreshes the page, or their browser crashes, etc

When a spectator chooses a colour, their performance ID is sent along with the colour change message.
If that performance ID matches the currently in progress performance, everything works as it should, the colour updates and the notification is sent.
If the performance ID does not match the currently in progress performance, it gets ignored, nothing changes and a notification is not sent.
If there's no performance currently in progress (for example, due to an auto or manual reset), all messages are accepted. This is a failsafe.

When the fifth colour is chosen, an unpair message is automatically sent along with the final selection, which functions as an auto-reset.

If something goes wrong, you can reset Picasso by holding the performance screen until your device vibrates.
You can also reset the drawing pad on the spectator's device by pressing and holding the undo button and then refreshing the page.

This autopair function allows you to get everyone else in a group to follow along with the routine, after having the first person navigate to your link. This allows for a potentially stronger performance as by the end of it, everyone's drawings will look different.
Message: Posted by: WillJonesMagic (May 8, 2020 05:53AM)
For those that are trying to test the auto-pair function, it's worth noting the following:

If you open the drawing pad in multiple tabs in the same browser on the same device, they will all share the same performance ID, because it's saved to the browser's local storage.
If you want to test this by yourself, do so in two different browsers that don't share data between each other.

Also the templates aren't in yet.
Message: Posted by: tomelderfield (May 8, 2020 08:03AM)
Just thought I'd pop my head in and say thank you for all the support! This has been a long time in the making and so happy to see so many magicians performing with it now!
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (May 8, 2020 09:56AM)
If purchased this app (or any other magic app) on my Samsung 7 and then a month from now upgraded my phone to either a current Samsung or Apple phone, would I lose that app?
Message: Posted by: Steven Conner (May 8, 2020 10:09AM)
[quote]On May 8, 2020, magicinsight wrote:
If purchased this app (or any other magic app) on my Samsung 7 and then a month from now upgraded my phone to either a current Samsung or Apple phone, would I lose that app? [/quote]

No. It will still be on your play store.
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 8, 2020 10:52AM)
I tried to see how the drawing acts , and every time I did a vertical line upside down the screen refresh and the drawing vanish. Is it like that also with the app ?
Message: Posted by: durgy (May 8, 2020 08:35PM)
I did this effect on LIVE TV this morning. Unfortunately we ran out of time and I couldn't do my surprise reveal of the real matching teddy bear I had hiding behind me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaYlCXcbEc

https://scontent.fyzd1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/96757788_10107618573085542_2454278852784947200_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=s3v5qJ53yTAAX92J-J7&_nc_ht=scontent.fyzd1-3.fna&oh=41b7b14641bac8dca9fe3ac69fa25266&oe=5EDA7EEF
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (May 8, 2020 08:42PM)
[quote]On May 8, 2020, durgy wrote:
I did this effect on LIVE TV this morning. Unfortunately we ran out of time and I couldn't do my surprise reveal of the real matching teddy bear I had hiding behind me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaYlCXcbEc


https://scontent.fyzd1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/96757788_10107618573085542_2454278852784947200_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=s3v5qJ53yTAAX92J-J7&_nc_ht=scontent.fyzd1-3.fna&oh=41b7b14641bac8dca9fe3ac69fa25266&oe=5EDA7EEF [/quote]

Well done!
Message: Posted by: patapon (May 9, 2020 12:26AM)
Nice!
Message: Posted by: godan65 (May 9, 2020 01:21AM)
Very nice, thank you for sharing. Rock the talent show!
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 9, 2020 01:35AM)
Two thumbs up!
Thanks for sharing. Loved all the creativity you put into it.
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 9, 2020 03:33AM)
[quote]On May 8, 2020, durgy wrote:
I did this effect on LIVE TV this morning. Unfortunately we ran out of time and I couldn't do my surprise reveal of the real matching teddy bear I had hiding behind me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaYlCXcbEc

https://scontent.fyzd1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/96757788_10107618573085542_2454278852784947200_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=s3v5qJ53yTAAX92J-J7&_nc_ht=scontent.fyzd1-3.fna&oh=41b7b14641bac8dca9fe3ac69fa25266&oe=5EDA7EEF [/quote]

very nice . but how you predict the name ?
Message: Posted by: jms15 (May 9, 2020 09:21AM)
Very nice, congrats!
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 9, 2020 12:16PM)
[quote]On May 9, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
[quote]On May 8, 2020, durgy wrote:
I did this effect on LIVE TV this morning. Unfortunately we ran out of time and I couldn't do my surprise reveal of the real matching teddy bear I had hiding behind me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaYlCXcbEc

https://scontent.fyzd1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/96757788_10107618573085542_2454278852784947200_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=s3v5qJ53yTAAX92J-J7&_nc_ht=scontent.fyzd1-3.fna&oh=41b7b14641bac8dca9fe3ac69fa25266&oe=5EDA7EEF [/quote]

very nice . but how you predict the name ? [/quote]
Iíd like to know this as well 😀
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (May 9, 2020 12:39PM)
PS I love you
Message: Posted by: IanB (May 9, 2020 03:08PM)
Just bought this for my iPhone an absolutely love it.
Works like a charm and had no issues.
I created a nice ID but wasn't too concerned as I use bitly to create a link which can be messaged, whatsapped etc to the spectator.
If you haven't got into bitly yet I can highly recommend it. It helps greatly improve your performance and makes accessing the links incredibly easy and trouble free.
Hope this helps?
Message: Posted by: PatrickGregoire (May 9, 2020 05:30PM)
[quote]On May 9, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
very nice . but how you predict the name ? [/quote]

Watch the video again, I'm sure you can work it out.
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 10, 2020 12:57AM)
[quote]On May 9, 2020, PatrickGregoire wrote:
[quote]On May 9, 2020, avimag51 wrote:
very nice . but how you predict the name ? [/quote]

Watch the video again, I'm sure you can work it out. [/quote]
Already have😀
Message: Posted by: Futureal (May 10, 2020 03:56AM)
The app should be three or four times the price and sold to experienced people only. As some of the questions and comments (see above, the guy fishing for answers) in this thread prove. Buying an app like this is only half the battle. You need actual performance skills and spectator management skills to be able to pull off a mentalism effect like this EFFECTIVELY. What a shame ellusionist is involved as their target audience is young people and beginners. If it was ProMystic it would be priced and marketed more effectively.
Message: Posted by: avimag51 (May 10, 2020 09:11AM)
I bought the app hours ago , and still waiting for Facebook approval. ( the only question that I have for approval was " do you have the app ? " is it ok ?
Message: Posted by: Bietfriek (May 10, 2020 09:18AM)
[quote]On May 10, 2020, Futureal wrote:
The app should be three or four times the price and sold to experienced people only.[/quote]

Not in itís current form/stability + for three or four times the price I would at least expect a decent watch version.
Donít get me wrong, still great stuff but i.m.o. (which most of the time differs from the majority 😉) it needs some finetuning.
Message: Posted by: Smooth Criminal (May 10, 2020 01:14PM)
[quote]On May 10, 2020, Futureal wrote:
The app should be sold to experienced people only. [/quote]

Ellusionist's audience is gullible kids though. Hence all the marketing they do about getting free drinks and getting girl's numbers. They aim their products at teenagers.
Message: Posted by: Bietfriek (May 10, 2020 01:37PM)
[quote]On May 10, 2020, Smooth Criminal wrote:
[quote]On May 10, 2020, Futureal wrote:
The app should be sold to experienced people only. [/quote]

Ellusionist's audience is gullible kids though. Hence all the marketing they do about getting free drinks and getting girl's numbers. They aim their products at teenagers. [/quote]

Well, at least they are honest about that and donít hide that fact or motivation, others do....
Message: Posted by: Weasel81 (May 10, 2020 04:22PM)
Any word on Apple Watch haptics? I figured out how to get notifications but not haptics.
Message: Posted by: shomemagic (May 11, 2020 03:17PM)
How long does it take for support to reply, just got this and app keeps closing..sent feedeback..now the waiting game
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 11, 2020 04:56PM)
I see the templates under the instructional video now. How do we apply these?
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 11, 2020 06:23PM)
[quote]On May 11, 2020, shomemagic wrote:
How long does it take for support to reply, just got this and app keeps closing..sent feedeback..now the waiting game [/quote]

Did you do the two finger downward swipe?
Message: Posted by: shomemagic (May 13, 2020 02:38PM)
Got it working, how do you load the templates, I was able to download the templates but see no way to choose one as a default..
Message: Posted by: GeraintClarke (May 13, 2020 02:49PM)
[quote]On May 11, 2020, 252life wrote:
I see the templates under the instructional video now. How do we apply these? [/quote]

We'll be giving full instructional asap.
Message: Posted by: shomemagic (May 13, 2020 03:06PM)
I just got a reply from Ellusionist regarding templates

Hello Mike,

Will is still working on getting that feature put in. For now you just have to draw them into the app yourself.
Message: Posted by: natsuy (May 16, 2020 09:07PM)
Any updates on the templates?
Message: Posted by: Sean Xem (May 16, 2020 11:11PM)
[quote]On May 16, 2020, natsuy wrote:
Any updates on the templates? [/quote]

Iím waiting to buy based on the templates
Message: Posted by: natsuy (May 18, 2020 07:56AM)
By the way do you guys ask them to draw or you use a saved drawing? If you are using a saved drawing , did any of your spectator asked why there is a preloaded image on a random sketch site?
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (May 18, 2020 08:52AM)
I have not done this for actually spectators so my feelings are theoretical but I donít see the problem in sending them to quicksketch/ďyournameĒ or something like that that has a template in it. ďThis where I keep spectators art workĒ yada yada. Especially if you are comfortable with the the thumps. If no extra phone is in view it still seem like a pretty strong, fun trick.
Message: Posted by: supermago (May 18, 2020 11:55AM)
[quote]On May 18, 2020, Xcath1 wrote:
I have not done this for actually spectators so my feelings are theoretical but I donít see the problem in sending them to quicksketch/ďyournameĒ or something like that that has a template in it. ďThis where I keep spectators art workĒ yada yada. Especially if you are comfortable with the the thumps. If no extra phone is in view it still seem like a pretty strong, fun trick. [/quote]

I've used both methods with no problem and no questions at all about the preset drawing.
Message: Posted by: natsuy (May 18, 2020 03:00PM)
[quote]On May 18, 2020, supermago wrote:
[quote]On May 18, 2020, Xcath1 wrote:
I have not done this for actually spectators so my feelings are theoretical but I donít see the problem in sending them to quicksketch/ďyournameĒ or something like that that has a template in it. ďThis where I keep spectators art workĒ yada yada. Especially if you are comfortable with the the thumps. If no extra phone is in view it still seem like a pretty strong, fun trick. [/quote]

I've used both methods with no problem and no questions at all about the preset drawing. [/quote]

Thanks for the reply supermago and xcath , actually there would be some people specially in my work ( IT) who will be thinking differently and as well as some inteliigent specs :) , The thing is if you ask them to go to a random sketch site and see that there is a preloaded drawing then they would think that yeah he has control on the website. The preloaded drawing maybe is good for not so technical savvy spectators. But again this is just my opinion.

@xcath yes thumps are good specially in a noisy environment but on a normal setting I am hesitant to use it as the vibration sound is a little bit noticeable. I am happy using the smartwatch for a peek :) and I guess asking the spec to draw has a much stronger effect as they will sketch it themselves then color it afterwards leaving no speculation on how it was done.
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (May 18, 2020 04:13PM)
The idea about spectators having issues about a pre-loaded image on a drawing site is a bit silly. Being that I have four kids, I am familiar with TONS of websites that have pre-loaded images for kids to color or draw in. I see no issue with this whatsoever. The reality is, some people see technology, and make assumptions about what you have access to anyway. I don't think pre-loaded drawings are the issue. In all honesty, if we are able to create our own templates, I would personally rather use some popular characters. It could all be framed around a drawing site for kids in some way if you are that paranoid about it.
Message: Posted by: PatrickGregoire (May 18, 2020 09:50PM)
Besides, they give the perfect logic on the download - "Go to this link, it's my account where I have an image saved in there."
Message: Posted by: Ray Pierce (May 19, 2020 01:14AM)
I have never had any problem justifying it. "Do you have '___________ on your phone?' Actually, I already have a picture online there we can use, that'll be faster, just go here...."
Message: Posted by: dooblehorn (May 20, 2020 12:01AM)
[quote]On May 16, 2020, Sean Xem wrote:
[quote]On May 16, 2020, natsuy wrote:
Any updates on the templates? [/quote]

Iím waiting to buy based on the templates [/quote]
Yes, and I am awaiting performing based on being able to load the templates. Any word on this feature?
Message: Posted by: Sean Xem (May 20, 2020 12:54PM)
[quote]On May 20, 2020, dooblehorn wrote:
[quote]On May 16, 2020, Sean Xem wrote:
[quote]On May 16, 2020, natsuy wrote:
Any updates on the templates? [/quote]

Iím waiting to buy based on the templates [/quote]
Yes, and I am awaiting performing based on being able to load the templates. Any word on this feature? [/quote]


Seems we canít get an answer on this
Message: Posted by: PatrickGregoire (May 24, 2020 12:28PM)
Is there now a way to prevent people from going back to your link and messing up the trick? I was about to do this on a video podcast and I had my iPod touch a distance away in front of me cued up for the notifications. The thing is, I had just performed it a moment ago with a friend to test if it was working properly. During the podcast, I noticed the notification updated itself to black (which means he went back to the website for some reason) and obviously I couldn't reach out to my ipod touch and "reset the connection"... So I just didn't do the trick.

Any solutions to this?
Message: Posted by: Chaz93 (May 24, 2020 06:29PM)
I picked this up yesterday to compare and play with, and I am in love with this. I've been a big fan of the color match plot since I first became aware of it, and this allows me to do it in any situation. And with the price being so low, this is a steal. The various ways included to get the information are perfect. I have not yet performed with this but am 100 percent confident out the gate. What this does, it does flawlessly. Very nice work.
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 24, 2020 06:49PM)
Thereís still a little fine tuning going on, but I agree.
Message: Posted by: Chaz93 (May 24, 2020 07:01PM)
It does seem all the good user Ids were taken though. That's a bummer, but I can work around it. I'll be performing over zoom this weekend so looking forward to testing this out.
Message: Posted by: jms15 (May 24, 2020 08:15PM)
I am primarily a kids entertainer, but what I do is I have the sketch site set up as an iframe on my website, so I just tell the spectator to go to my website where I have a special page set up and the sketch page shows up directly on my page. It may not work for everyone, but it is definitely an option. This way there is no concern regarding the user ID as they never see it.
Message: Posted by: Chaz93 (May 24, 2020 08:28PM)
I've more or less done the same. Currently redoing my website, and I'm going to just add the site there via a link. Nice way to drive clients to the site for more info and bookings :)
Message: Posted by: Sean Xem (May 24, 2020 10:48PM)
Are the templates functional yet?
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 24, 2020 11:26PM)
Nope
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 25, 2020 04:42AM)
They are easy enough to draw yourself having seen them it looks like a child had drawn them anyway.
Message: Posted by: Smooth Criminal (May 25, 2020 03:01PM)
[quote]On May 24, 2020, Sean Xem wrote:
Are the templates functional yet? [/quote]

Too busy fixing all the bugs in this paid for beta to bother with adding in templates.
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (May 25, 2020 05:44PM)
For 30 bucks it didn't kill me to be a beta tester but I do think this needs templates and even better templates we can draw and import. For instance mine would be a picture (cartoon) of me waving and the reveal might say happy birthday with my picture or whatever. Drawing in the app is harder than it should be because you can't even erase so if you make a mistake you have to start over. Also I think it take to long (for my style) to have the spectator start from scratch and see how they do. At any rate I know nothing about programming and based on "non-binding" comments that E make on this thread I did think this would move along quicker
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 26, 2020 04:25AM)
Have you actually seen the templates they have done ready for uploading?
They are what a kid could draw!
Message: Posted by: Derotanim (May 26, 2020 07:10AM)
[quote]On May 26, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
Have you actually seen the templates they have done ready for uploading?
They are what a kid could draw! [/quote]

I don't know why you see this as a problem. They looked perfectly adequate to me - I wouldn't want some artist's complex rendition of these very basic drawings to pop up on the very basic sketchpad website. The way I see it, simpler is better.
Message: Posted by: dvno (May 26, 2020 11:13AM)
I also think that simpler is better. For me it is important that the spectator believes that I could have drawn it. And people who know me in person probably know that I am not really into painting. In my opinion this effect lives from it's simplicity - and I only need some simple drawings. Of course you can do that by your own, but it's a nice feature to add drawings quickly though.
Message: Posted by: aheller5 (May 27, 2020 09:56AM)
I downloaded on my phone how do I put new templates in the app? TY all and be safe
Message: Posted by: Futureal (May 27, 2020 11:02AM)
Currently - you canít.

So itís absurd they have templates on the site because you canít import them into the app itself.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 27, 2020 01:14PM)
The templates have been sitting there for weeks....
Message: Posted by: Sean Xem (May 29, 2020 01:32PM)
[quote]On May 27, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
The templates have been sitting there for weeks.... [/quote]

After such a delay in working templates, Iíve moved on from this. Shows what future support will be like from E on this

Glad I didnít purchase, although it looked great and was right up my alley
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 29, 2020 06:09PM)
Itís a great effect and will be that much better when they tie up the loose ends.
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 29, 2020 08:40PM)
[quote]On May 29, 2020, Sean Xem wrote:
[quote]On May 27, 2020, garyogden1957 wrote:
The templates have been sitting there for weeks.... [/quote]

After such a delay in working templates, Iíve moved on from this. Shows what future support will be like from E on this

Glad I didnít purchase, although it looked great and was right up my alley [/quote]

People here can be so impatient. If a feature (that was never promised or advertised) isnít added quickly enough, or a daily explanation as to why isnít given, people are ready to write it off. The app was only released a month ago.
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 29, 2020 09:26PM)
Hope I didnít imply something different. As stated previously, I personally love it. Having said that, there are a few rough edges.

The sizing is an issue on some screens.
Clicking on the instructions closes the app.
Inputting the image can be frustrating because you canít erase a mistake.
(A stylus is recommended if you have sausage fingers)
While not necessary, the templates were promised and would be nice.

But, itís a solid strong effect regardless. Iím a big fan of it and have been for years. Iíd recommend it as is without a second thought though.
Message: Posted by: Sean Xem (May 29, 2020 10:45PM)
[quote]On May 29, 2020, videoman wrote:

People here can be so impatient. If a feature (that was never promised or advertised) isnít added quickly enough, or a daily explanation as to why isnít given, people are ready to write it off. The app was only released a month ago. [/quote]

You are incorrect. If you havenít read through this thread, which is understandable because it is long, you should refrain from making ignorant comments.

Templates were promised by E on this very thread ďtonightĒ on April 30th. It is now May 29th.
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (May 30, 2020 12:40AM)
[quote]On May 29, 2020, Sean Xem wrote:
[quote]On May 29, 2020, videoman wrote:

People here can be so impatient. If a feature (that was never promised or advertised) isnít added quickly enough, or a daily explanation as to why isnít given, people are ready to write it off. The app was only released a month ago. [/quote]

You are incorrect. If you havenít read through this thread, which is understandable because it is long, you should refrain from making ignorant comments.

Templates were promised by E on this very thread ďtonightĒ on April 30th. It is now May 29th. [/quote]


I think he was referring to the originally released version. Which did not have or mention any pre-made templates. On page 5 Lloyd says that thereís no templates at the moment. But shortly after that said theyíre working on them.


In the mean time, Iím grabbing some 🍿 🍿🍿
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (May 30, 2020 12:41AM)
[quote]On May 30, 2020, Lonnie_Lyerla wrote:
[quote]On May 29, 2020, Sean Xem wrote:
[quote]On May 29, 2020, videoman wrote:

People here can be so impatient. If a feature (that was never promised or advertised) isnít added quickly enough, or a daily explanation as to why isnít given, people are ready to write it off. The app was only released a month ago. [/quote]

You are incorrect. If you havenít read through this thread, which is understandable because it is long, you should refrain from making ignorant comments.

Templates were promised by E on this very thread ďtonightĒ on April 30th. It is now May 29th. [/quote]


I think he was referring to the originally released version. Which did not have or mention any pre-made templates. On page 5 Lloyd says that thereís no templates at the moment. But shortly after that said theyíre working on them. Both statements were made on April 30th by Lloyd.


In the mean time, Iím grabbing some 🍿 🍿🍿 [/quote]
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 30, 2020 12:57AM)
Listen, I'm not a huge fan of E but you are just proving my case. It's been out a month and you're impatient. If you didn't simply cherry pick posts that you feel make your case you would have also included that Lloyd got a little overzealous and made promises that unfortunately could not be met. I agree that is not good but every business makes mistakes and it's how you handle them that's important. So to be fair Will has apologized and explained that it turned out to be much more complicated than they had anticipated. So they're working on it and it's been a month and you're fed up. Fine, but that's being impatient IMO. Going beyond bug fixes and adding new features in a month is pretty quick, especially when you're servicing both platforms.

Templates have never been an officially advertised feature and you are able to create one of your own and save it. Its not that hard to do. I believe more features including templates will show up in the not too distant future.

I have almost certainly followed this thread more closely than you and in addition I actually own the app so if one of us should refrain from making ignorant comments it is you my friend.
Message: Posted by: Futureal (May 30, 2020 01:28AM)
[quote]On May 24, 2020, Chaz93 wrote:
I've more or less done the same. Currently redoing my website, and I'm going to just add the site there via a link. Nice way to drive clients to the site for more info and bookings :) [/quote]

Having it be anything other than just a random online drawing site totally unrelated to yourself is a MASSIVE mistake.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 30, 2020 04:10AM)
Quick to take your money for a beta release. Templates were mentioned last month and the quote was "they should be up by tonight". Still waiting, but as you said who needs them anyway when you can easily make your own.
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (May 30, 2020 04:19AM)
I gladly let them take my money. And thatís saying something. Plus itís been one of my best and favorite Purchases Iíve ever made in the past 20 years of magic.
Message: Posted by: garyogden1957 (May 30, 2020 04:51AM)
I've not had a problem with it since I got it and it works great on my MiBand4
Message: Posted by: Sean Xem (May 30, 2020 07:36AM)
[quote]On May 30, 2020, videoman wrote:
Listen, I'm not a huge fan of E but you are just proving my case. It's been out a month and you're impatient. If you didn't simply cherry pick posts that you feel make your case you would have also included that Lloyd got a little overzealous and made promises that unfortunately could not be met. I agree that is not good but every business makes mistakes and it's how you handle them that's important. So to be fair Will has apologized and explained that it turned out to be much more complicated than they had anticipated. So they're working on it and it's been a month and you're fed up. Fine, but that's being impatient IMO. Going beyond bug fixes and adding new features in a month is pretty quick, especially when you're servicing both platforms.

Templates have never been an officially advertised feature and you are able to create one of your own and save it. Its not that hard to do. I believe more features including templates will show up in the not too distant future.

I have almost certainly followed this thread more closely than you and in addition I actually own the app so if one of us should refrain from making ignorant comments it is you my friend. [/quote]

Actually, ďfriendĒ, you are proving my case by wanting and asking to ignore (ďnot cherry pickĒ) posts that show you made incorrect comments. If that makes me impatient, so be it!

So....I will not waste my time having a conversation with an irrational person.

To everyone else, enjoy the app and I enjoy many E products.
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 30, 2020 08:10AM)
[quote]On May 30, 2020, Lonnie_Lyerla wrote:
I gladly let them take my money. And thatís saying something. Plus itís been one of my best and favorite Purchases Iíve ever made in the past 20 years of magic. [/quote]

Well I am absolutely hob smacked to hear you say this. Youíve either not bought much or bought badly.
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (May 30, 2020 12:02PM)
[quote]On May 30, 2020, rowland wrote:
[quote]On May 30, 2020, Lonnie_Lyerla wrote:
I gladly let them take my money. And thatís saying something. Plus itís been one of my best and favorite Purchases Iíve ever made in the past 20 years of magic. [/quote]

Well I am absolutely hob smacked to hear you say this. Youíve either not bought much or bought badly. [/quote]



I wish it were that easy of an explanation as youíve made it sound. I also believe that thereís more than just those two options youíve offered up. I still buy way too much magic to this day. My opinion on this being one of my favorite/best purchases is surprising to hear. But itís based on everything Iíve bought that I like for my specific style of presentation. When Iím using the term favorites, it isnít out of just 2-3 things. I have tons of favorite pieces. Peter Turners IS3 is my favorite impromptu piece of mentalism. And one of my best purchases to date as well. Itís no secret that I like tech magic. And When it comes to APP base magic, Marc has my all time favorite product. But I still feel for me and how I use Picasso, makes it exactly what I stated earlier. One of my best/favorite purchases. Now of course Iíve made bad purchases. Like Control. Like any dice. A couple products from The Other Brothers. Weíve all made bad purchases. I guarantee that. Hell, I remember Having to order magic from a magazine when there were no online magic sites and the disappointment I had when they would come in the mail.

I have many favorites. And I have many purchases. As for bad and good, itís pretty leveled out. And my personal opinion on Picasso is, itís a really good product for me. As Iíve had no issues.
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (May 30, 2020 02:48PM)
Oh the suffering first world problems challenge us with...

I will be honest, I bought this on day one, and it crashed and didn't work. I have not updated or used it since. Why? Because I am patient. Most of the bugs got sorted out at this point, and I will probably start working on it this week. Being that I have worked in software for most of my life, I don't love the fact that customers are beta testers for some companies (VERY common in video games). But look, if you like the premise, then it is something worth waiting for to be sorted out. We have all spent a lot of money on effects that turned out to be a total bust and it sits in a drawer. That is money that was flushed down the drain. I don't think that is the case here at all. I have spent a hell of a lot more money for products that never worked at all as advertised.

Take a deep breath, and focus that frustration on something productive. Or, take a look in the mirror, and realize where the problem really lies, within yourself...
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jun 2, 2020 01:32PM)
[quote]On May 30, 2020, Sean Xem wrote:
[quote]On May 30, 2020, videoman wrote:
Listen, I'm not a huge fan of E but you are just proving my case. It's been out a month and you're impatient. If you didn't simply cherry pick posts that you feel make your case you would have also included that Lloyd got a little overzealous and made promises that unfortunately could not be met. I agree that is not good but every business makes mistakes and it's how you handle them that's important. So to be fair Will has apologized and explained that it turned out to be much more complicated than they had anticipated. So they're working on it and it's been a month and you're fed up. Fine, but that's being impatient IMO. Going beyond bug fixes and adding new features in a month is pretty quick, especially when you're servicing both platforms.

Templates have never been an officially advertised feature and you are able to create one of your own and save it. Its not that hard to do. I believe more features including templates will show up in the not too distant future.

I have almost certainly followed this thread more closely than you and in addition I actually own the app so if one of us should refrain from making ignorant comments it is you my friend. [/quote]

Actually, ďfriendĒ, you are proving my case by wanting and asking to ignore (ďnot cherry pickĒ) posts that show you made incorrect comments. If that makes me impatient, so be it!

So....I will not waste my time having a conversation with an irrational person.

To everyone else, enjoy the app and I enjoy many E products. [/quote]

I'm not usually one to engage in childish arguments with immature name-calling trolls but your posts are simply ridiculous.
Which of my comments were either incorrect or irrational?
At least you admit to being impatient. Perhaps there is hope for you after all.
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (Jun 2, 2020 03:42PM)
[quote]On Jun 2, 2020, 252life wrote:
[quote]On Jun 2, 2020, MagicalMikey wrote:
It amuses me that y'all think templates are the issue

the real issue is there's no pairing

this is a problem Kerstein solved years ago

they should pay him to fix this for them, as their dev clearly can't [/quote]

You are correct!! We should only discuss what you believe the only issue to be.
My most sincere apologies on behalf of the entire community for offending your sensibilities:) [/quote]


😂😂😂😂😂 I about spit my Redbull out when I read this.
Message: Posted by: Sean Xem (Jun 2, 2020 08:01PM)
[quote]On Jun 2, 2020, videoman wrote
I'm not usually one to engage in childish arguments with immature name-calling trolls but your posts are simply ridiculous.
Which of my comments were either incorrect or irrational?
At least you admit to being impatient. Perhaps there is hope for you after all. [/quote]

LOL the only true childish name calling that occurred in our convo was you calling me an ďimmature trollĒ. It seems youíve made another incorrect statement.

To clarify, your incorrect statement was stating that templates are a feature that were never promised, when they were promised in this thread by E reps to be complete over a month ago. Your irrational comment was asking not to ďcherry pickĒ that post.......simply because it shows you made an incorrect comment and makes you feel better about yourself.

Keep shoveling, Videoman! Youíre doing great!

Love the rest of you, fellow Magi, and hope youíre enjoying the app.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 2, 2020 11:49PM)
Iím loving this thread :goof:
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 2, 2020 11:50PM)
[quote]On Jun 2, 2020, MagicalMikey wrote:
[quote]On Jun 2, 2020, 252life wrote:
[quote]On Jun 2, 2020, MagicalMikey wrote:
It amuses me that y'all think templates are the issue

the real issue is there's no pairing

this is a problem Kerstein solved years ago

they should pay him to fix this for them, as their dev clearly can't [/quote]

You are correct!! We should only discuss what you believe the only issue to be.
My most sincere apologies on behalf of the entire community for offending your sensibilities:) [/quote]

straw man much?

I didn't say you couldn't discuss how these silly templates are bothering you.

I said it amuses me y'all are missing the real issue with this beta app.

But do carry on, if it makes you feel better in some way. [/quote]

Relax brother all in fun lol
Message: Posted by: rowland (Jun 3, 2020 02:18AM)
Does anybody else get the impression that there are a load of kids on this post
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Jun 3, 2020 02:32AM)
Great update to the app.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jun 3, 2020 09:49AM)
Some nice templates that so many have been clamoring for. Looks like they tried to include something to work with many different presentations. Some nice improvements overall. The app keeps getting better and better and itís barely a month old. Too bad that some folks gave up so quickly and have already ďmoved onĒ. Oh well, their loss.
See, patience is a virtue kids. :coolspot:
Message: Posted by: jms15 (Jun 3, 2020 10:21AM)
Was it updated? I don't see an update for Android.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jun 3, 2020 11:40AM)
Definitely a big update but not sure about Android. I wouldnít be surprised if it was iOS first with Android to follow ASAP but I havenít seen any official announcement yet.
Message: Posted by: Futureal (Jun 4, 2020 04:32AM)
Yes itís a major improvement.
Message: Posted by: Vraagaard (Jun 5, 2020 07:01AM)
Just one question:

Can you get the peak of color(s) without looking at the phone/watch. I mean - can the phone be in your pocket and you will receive a shake/buzz/signal for each color chosen?

I just happen to dislike ahving my phone out while performing.

Best

Jan
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Jun 5, 2020 07:39AM)
[quote]On Jun 5, 2020, Vraagaard wrote:
Just one question:

Can you get the peak of color(s) without looking at the phone/watch. I mean - can the phone be in your pocket and you will receive a shake/buzz/signal for each color chosen?

I just happen to dislike ahving my phone out while performing.

Best

Jan [/quote]


Yes
Message: Posted by: Arielhamui (Jun 6, 2020 05:26AM)
App work perfect now!
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jun 6, 2020 01:25PM)
Adding the built-in templates is what I was waiting for. I've now joined the ranks of Picasso Pro app performers. I was even able to get a user ID that makes sense and isn't too terribly long. Though, admittedly, my first 5 choices were already taken. No worries, the one I ended up with is still excellent.

I've performed it for my wife (she loved it) and I'll be performing it for friends tonight. But, gotta say, just fooling around with it has increased my desire to get Color Match by Promystic! :) If not for the pandemic and social distancing, I might have already pulled the trigger on Color Match. For now, Picasso Pro lends itself to being performed over the web quite nicely, something that wouldn't work with Color Match.

Craig Filecitti, if you're reading this, how about a little sale on Promystic products during the pandemic? A little discount might be too much for me to resist. :)

Mark
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (Jun 6, 2020 03:28PM)
I see no update since May 5th in Google Play. It does not show an update available. Is version 1.2.0 the current version for Android users?
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jun 7, 2020 01:31AM)
I'd ask about this in the Facebook Group but I haven't been admitted yet. So... I performed Picasso Pro 4 times today. 3 out of those 4 times it did NOT make the connection to the spectator's phone after he arrived at the drawing page. I practiced it by myself several additional times and a couple of those times it did NOT make the connection.

I honestly don't think I'm going anything wrong. The connection won't work, I force quit the app and run it again and the connection is made. Houston, we've got a problem. I'd love someone to tell me what I am doing wrong (if anything)

BTW, this was while I was on WiFi. The spectators were on WiFi too, not cellular.

Mark
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (Jun 8, 2020 11:26AM)
Can anyone running the Android version let me know what the latest release version is?
Message: Posted by: jms15 (Jun 8, 2020 05:45PM)
Latest version is 1.2.0. Doesn't seem like the Android version has been updated yet.
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (Jun 8, 2020 06:51PM)
E did get back to me and confirmed the latest version is currently being ported to Android. So the last Android update was May 5th, version 1.2.0. Hopefully the update will come quickly. Holding out for that one...
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jun 8, 2020 08:18PM)
I did more testing today. With my iPhone Xs as the receiver (iOS 13.4.1) and using either my iMac or my iPad as the spectator's device, it is VERY common for the two devices to not get a connection. I tried it 10 times with my iMac as the spectator's device (opening a new window with each try) and only got a confirmed connection 3 out of those 10 times. With the iPad I tried it 6 times and I didn't get a confirmed connection at all (not even once).

A few are reporting the same issue in the Facebook Group. Still others are reporting no problems at all. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to why it's working for some and not for others.

An email I sent to Ellusionist earlier this morning hasn't been answered yet. Hopefully, they'll get to it soon.

Mark
Message: Posted by: egoli (Jun 8, 2020 11:21PM)
I tried it this afternoon and at first got no connection iPhone 7 Plus to spectators iPhone (unknown model). So I switched to an effect with Inject (SCI add on). After that I tried Picasso again with the same spectator and this time it worked perfectly.

Ed
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jun 10, 2020 05:29PM)
I've been exchanging emails with Will at Ellusionist the last couple of days. We finally got to the basic root of the issue I was experiencing. It was user error in my testing because I wasn't allowing enough time between tests and I wasn't completing the test (not choosing all 5 colors).

Now that I better understand how the backend software works, I think I can avoid continued issues in the future. Plus, I learned how to instantly reset (kill) a pairing with one device so my device is ready to pair with a new device.

There is still a bug with vibration not working in certain circumstances but Will has informed the Facebook Group that a new version of the iOS software has been submitted to Apple for approval (today). Once it's approved it will be available for update.

Mark
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 10, 2020 08:27PM)
Thanks for sharing the updates Mark, appreciate it since Iím bad about getting on Facebook.
Message: Posted by: WillJonesMagic (Jun 12, 2020 09:31AM)
Hey all,

Will here, developer over at Ellusionist. Here's a quick update on the Picasso state of the union, as it were, as a more in depth explanation of the underlying workings.

Version 1.5 has now been approved and released for iOS.
This once and for all squashes any issues with custom labels showing in notifications, as well as addresses a memory management issue that could cause the haptic feedback to not fire correctly in certain circumstances.

The currently android release version is 1.2.0. I'm in the process of porting the updates from the latest iOS release to Android (including templates, customisable haptic feedback, etc) and this is so far going well.
I expect this update to be ready within the next week or so. We're also migrating away from the legacy push notifications system used in the initial release. This has already been done for iOS and will be in the next android version. This gives us a great deal more control over the entire process and more insights that help with tracing and debugging.

Whilst this new push notifications system is markedly better than the old one, there is still a degree of overhead in getting these notifications from Picasso all the way to your devices. It's for this reason that if two notifications for the same performance are sent in quick succession (i.e. the second is sent before the first has been fully processed and delivered), the first notification will be superseded and not sent - this way you won't be bombarded with potentially confusing notifications if a spectator chooses two colours in quick succession.


I'd also like to take a minute to explain a little more about how the underlying tech works in terms of pairing, connections, etc. Apologies in advance for this wall of text.

Step 1:
Picasso and the drawing pad site never directly connect to one another, and everything is passed around through messages that are pushed between the two.
When a spectator first opens the drawing pad with your performer ID, it sends a message to our servers saying "Here's my session ID, the performer's ID and the colour that's chosen, I'd like to start a performance please"

If there's no other performance in progress, the server responds with an "Ok, I'm only going to listen to you now", stores the colour selected against your account and separately sends the colour selected via a push notification to Picasso.
(This is the pairing process in its entirety. Any future messages sent to your performer ID must include this session ID, otherwise they'll be ignored. This also allows other people to load your personal link without them interfering with the performance. The first person that loads it is the one that gets listened to)

The push notification sent in the previous step goes from our servers, then to Firebase Cloud Messenger. If you're using Android, Firebase sends it directly to your device. If you're using iOS, Firebase hands it off to Apple Push Notification Service (APNS) and Apple handles the delivery of it.

When a notification is received, if Picasso is open in the foreground, your phone's operating system says to Picasso "I have a message for you, here it is". Picasso then compares the content of that message (the colour selected) with the colour it already knows about. If those colours are different, it fires off haptic feedback, text to speech, or whatever else you have enabled.
If Picasso is in the background, on iOS, the phone displays the notification on Picasso's behalf (asking it for any changes to the notification content in the process). On Android, we handle the notification ourselves, substitute the content for your custom labels and then hand it back to the phone's operating system to display.

Steps 2 - 5:
When a colour is selected, the drawing pad sends that the colour to the server along with the performer's ID and the session ID created in step 1. If the session ID matches the one the server thinks is the current performance, it responds with "Ok, I'll pass that on", stores the selected colour and sends the message via the push notifications channel.
If the session ID is different, the drawing pad will continue to work, but the server responds with "Sorry, wrong session ID. I'm not sending it on" and ignores it.

Step 6:
When the fifth colour has been selected by a spectator, the drawing pad adds an "I'm done now" flag to the colour change message, and the server responds with "Ok, I'm open to new people now", stores the colour, resets its internal state and forwards the message on as before.
This will allow a new performance with a new person to begin afterward without requiring a manual reset. That said, the system will still listen to additional colour change messages from this original device, for example if a spectator has selected green but then changed to blue and comes back to green as a later colour.


If you don't have push notifications enabled, the whole automatic colour message passing to your device process will not work. There is however, a built in workaround for this. You can tap the performance screen of Picasso and it'll go and fetch the currently selected colour.
If you tap the screen and get no update after changing colours, the reason is more than likely down to the system thinking another performance is in progress. Doing a manual reset will remedy this.

If a performance does not finish or you need to do a reset, you can do this by pressing and holding the performance screen. This'll send a message from Picasso to the server asking it to forget about the currently stored session ID, and a performance can begin with someone else, with the system open to a new pairing request.

These session IDs (the pairing) are only valid for about five minutes since the last message was received. Any longer than that and auto-reset kicks in.

Also a quick note about Haptic Feedback:
The haptic feedback engine (on all iOS devices and some android devices) is restricted by the operating system to the current foreground app, meaning that if Picasso is in the background you won't get the the haptic pattern feedback that you're used to when the app is in the foreground.
Banner notifications will also not show when the app is in the foreground on iOS devices at all. When Picasso is in the background on iOS, it will show if you have banner notifications for Picasso enabled in the Settings App -> Picasso -> Notifications.


I hope this explanation helps clear up a few things about how the underlying system works. If you're still having any issues or need one to one support, please don't hesitate to drop me an email at support@ellusionist.com and I'd be more than happy to help

-Will
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 12, 2020 06:08PM)
Fantastic, thx for sharing the updates here and for all the continued work.
Message: Posted by: Yepski (Jun 12, 2020 08:42PM)
Thank you Will- I always appreciate ďthe whyĒ, thank you for taking the time
Message: Posted by: paperinick (Jun 12, 2020 10:35PM)
[quote]Banner notifications will also not show when the app is in the foreground on iOS devices at all.[/quote]
I found a workaround loooong time ago. It was broken once by Apple but then fixed, so pretty reliable.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jun 12, 2020 11:44PM)
The long message from Will above (about the underlying tech) is basically what he explained to me a couple of days ago. That really helped me understand the nuts & bolts and I, for one, appreciate Will taking the time to do it.

Thanks again, Will.

Mark
Message: Posted by: paperinick (Jun 18, 2020 08:23PM)
The website is down... how often does it happen?
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 18, 2020 08:40PM)
Wow. Just checked and you are correct. Glad you posted that, I was planning on using it tonight
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jun 18, 2020 09:57PM)
Website is working for me. So, if it was down for everyone, it's back up now.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Futureal (Jun 19, 2020 01:34AM)
Still a LOT of problems posted daily in the FB group. This thing has been a PR disaster. I suggest they give everyone some credit and get an experienced app creator like Kerstein to redevelop this from the ground up.
Message: Posted by: paperinick (Jun 19, 2020 12:23PM)
I was thinking to ask for a feature request... but at this point... :(
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 19, 2020 12:24PM)
I doubt Iím your kid, but I will :)
Iím not happy with everything they do but overall Iím satisfied.
Turners latest Principle is a good example of a solid release from them.
Sure they should have mud tested this thing though I agree.
When I think of rip off companies I think of outfits like Outlaw Effects so maybe that raised the bar.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Jun 19, 2020 03:43PM)
Glad I held back.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 19, 2020 04:09PM)
The only thing thatís really a deal breaker for me is if the site starts to crash regularly. The effect is worth the other small issues. But waiting things out is never a bad idea if you have impulse control lol
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jun 19, 2020 05:03PM)
Could tell from the outset this app would be problematic from its source . Itís not made by the best like Marc or Greg and often when people try to be clever by offering iOS and Android at a cheap price itís normally unreliable as this definitely is . Wouldnít touch it with a barge pole , buy the real effect if you like it enough from Craig , this will never work consistently in the long run and I guarantee you Craig will have had absolutely nothing to do with the tech here otherwise it would work flawlessly imho Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jun 19, 2020 05:25PM)
Since learning about how the backend software locks onto (pairs) with a spectator's device until a certain amount of time passes or you manually break the pairing, this has worked perfectly for me. Every time!

Mark
Message: Posted by: aheller5 (Jun 19, 2020 08:22PM)
Is the templates ready for the samsung androids?
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jun 19, 2020 08:29PM)
I agree with Mark. I really haven't had any issues with this. It's actually very good.
Covering both platforms there are bound to be some problems and growing pains but nothing major for me. Yes, it took them a month longer to get pre-made templates up. Not a big deal. The app is only a couple months old and has already seen many improvements and updates.

Obviously you are going to see all the people here and on FB who are having issues, in the same way that you generally see a lot more bad reviews for products than good reviews. It's just human nature. But there are no doubt a lot of people like me who are just cruising along with this experiencing little or no problems.
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Jun 19, 2020 09:53PM)
I haven't had any issues. Works great and people love it.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jun 20, 2020 12:28PM)
Another new version of Picasso Pro was released on the iOS App Store overnight.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Futureal (Jun 20, 2020 01:44PM)
For iOS or Android?
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jun 20, 2020 01:51PM)
[quote]On Jun 20, 2020, Futureal wrote:
For iOS or Android? [/quote]

If that was directed at me... I posted the answer IN my message before you even asked the question. :confused:


Mark
Message: Posted by: Futureal (Jun 21, 2020 02:08AM)
Oh so you did.

Also - congrats on being the #1 Picasso Pro fanboi. Gives you something to do at the retirement village I guess.
Message: Posted by: Chaz93 (Jun 21, 2020 02:11PM)
I recently purchased Picasso Pro and was happy with it at first, but at this point am regretting my purchase. On release it was great and worked as advertised but after the community asked for a couple features they released the iPhone update, but nothing for Android. I have asked a couple times now what the date for the android update will be and have been told to just give them time, but how much time has not been addressed. This is not the way to respond to a customer. Android users paid the same price as iPhone users yet recieved less features and Ellusionist cannot provide a date for when that will be rectified. I don't see why Ellusionist didn't just hold off on releasing the updates until both were ready. As of right now you get more features and an updated version if using iphone, and only the bare bones for android yet the cost for both remains the same. That does not seem fair. I paid full price and expected that I would recieve the same product, not be given the run around and told to "just wait" when asked for a date for update launch. Ellusionist could work towards making this right by at least saying "the update will be launched next weekend", but instead remain silent and attempt to paint those who are simply asking for what they paid for as impatient trouble makers. Bad form Ellusionist.

What this shows is that Ellusionist is quick to take your money, and then leave ya on your own. I had not purchased anything from them before, and don't think I will moving forward. At this point I have nothing good to say about this product or Ellusionist.

In contrast, SimpleDraw does everything Picasso Pro does and More, and is constantly being improved. I would steer clear of Picasso Pro at this point and check out SimpleDraw instead. Better app, better support, better customer service, and you won't be left with a sour taste in your mouth.
Message: Posted by: Magic Mark (Jun 21, 2020 02:57PM)
I think the best solution would have been for Ellusionist to not have done a version for Android in the first place.

Mark
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Jun 22, 2020 01:26AM)
[quote]On Jun 21, 2020, Magic Mark wrote:
I think the best solution would have been for Ellusionist to not have done a version for Android in the first place.

Mark [/quote]

Agreed. If you were a serious magician youíd own an iPhone.
Message: Posted by: WillJonesMagic (Jun 22, 2020 04:32AM)
Hey all,

Quick update: An update for iOS was approved by Apple over the weekend. In addition to fixing a couple of minor issues, it adds an option to bypass the push notifications system.
The way it works is as follows: When Picasso is open and on the performance screen (note: This doesn't function when Picasso is in the background), once every three or so seconds it fetches the latest colour for your performer ID from our servers. If the colour has changed, it'll fire any haptic feedback, text to speech, etc or whatever else you have switched on. This was added to address an issue a few folk were still having with push notification reliability. If you have this switched on (and a strong network connection) and are still having issues getting colour updates, then it'll be down to the pairing between your device and the spectator.

As for the Android update, that's coming in the next couple of days. We had packaged it up ready for release and pushed it to our internal testers via the Google Play store, but at the 11th hour encountered some issues with the templates (Thanks Google and ProGuard). These were fixed late on Friday night and another update pushed to our testers. I'm now waiting for them to wake up so we can finish these tests off. As soon as they pass, I'll be clicking the button to release the update to production and it'll arrive in your updates within a day or so (as per the standard Google roll-out timescales)

-Will
Message: Posted by: Futureal (Jun 22, 2020 06:13AM)
So are we meant to turn Bypass Push Notifications on or leave it off? The way you describe it itís just doing what the app should be programmed to do anyway - ie tell you what color is being used.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 22, 2020 10:07AM)
Site was down again last night so it was unusable at a time I wanted to use it. Iím starting to reconsider the other option available at this point, and Iíve been a vocal fanboy up until now. As of now I canít rely on it or trust it
Message: Posted by: Magic from A to Z (Jun 22, 2020 11:56AM)
To the point that it works more reliably on an iPhone rather than an Android ...

So here's a scenario... I'm demonstrating this in a performance of a group of say 10/12 individuals and I need a participant.

Am I to say, "I need someone specifically with an iPhone.. Who here has an iPhone?"


Sounds a little awkward if it's suppose to work on any phone regardless of whether it's an iPhone or an Android... Right?
Message: Posted by: leosx1 (Jun 22, 2020 03:28PM)
I bring along my own Ipad which I have tested and found working just shortly prior to my show. This I hand out with the notion of opening up a sketch program on it for them to sketch, flies by very well and assures me a flawless performance.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 22, 2020 04:08PM)
[quote]On Jun 22, 2020, Magic from A to Z wrote:
To the point that it works more reliably on an iPhone rather than an Android ...

So here's a scenario... I'm demonstrating this in a performance of a group of say 10/12 individuals and I need a participant.

Am I to say, "I need someone specifically with an iPhone.. Who here has an iPhone?"


Sounds a little awkward if it's suppose to work on any phone regardless of whether it's an iPhone or an Android... Right? [/quote]

Iím on an iPhone 8
Message: Posted by: Futureal (Jun 22, 2020 11:11PM)
[quote]On Jun 22, 2020, leosx1 wrote:
I bring along my own Ipad which I have tested and found working just shortly prior to my show. This I hand out with the notion of opening up a sketch program on it for them to sketch, flies by very well and assures me a flawless performance. [/quote]

Doesnít make sense. If youíre taking along your own apparatus to do the trick then you might as well take pens and a piece of paper and do the original Color Match.
Message: Posted by: leosx1 (Jun 23, 2020 02:30AM)
Magicians thinking.
Message: Posted by: Magic from A to Z (Jun 23, 2020 05:16AM)
Sounds like a little too much preconfiguration
Message: Posted by: Lonnie_Lyerla (Jun 28, 2020 06:41PM)
Instead of asking for a specific type of phone, why not observe your spectators during different routines?
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 28, 2020 06:55PM)
Outlandish! Lol :)
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jun 29, 2020 03:55AM)
If people have their phones out during my performance I must be doing a rubbish set . I often see certain stage acts , and the second they have lost the audience you see all the mobiles come out and everyone checking their texts etc . They are like sheep , once one does it the rest follow its cringeworthy imo Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: Futureal (Jun 29, 2020 08:48AM)
Way to totally miss the point. Youíre doing an effect WITH their phone, theyíre not mindlessly looking at it during your performance. What an absurd statement.
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jun 29, 2020 04:21PM)
Exactly my point Futureal so you wonít know who has what phone unless you specifically ask for of it as it shouldnít be out . Then of course if itís an Android you may have to say oh actually has an anyone got an iPhone as it works better with that .
To be fair the only app effects I like is when your phone or theirs is never seen in play , like Cubesmith , WikiTest , Racaan to name just a few Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jun 29, 2020 06:38PM)
Thx for nothing Gaz :)..now I feel compelled to look into this Cubesmith and Racaan you speak of ... frigemfragam$&%#!
Just when I think Iíve heard of them all, along comes Gaz threatening my finances.
(On a positive note bookings seem to be starting up again slowly and who needs food anyway)
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jun 30, 2020 04:10PM)
Lol 😂, sorry Gaz 🙂
Message: Posted by: fxcreator33 (Jul 6, 2020 07:47AM)
Hi- new here, hope this question is ok to post here. I have the Picasso app on an iPhone, and the only way I can get it to operate is that I must tap the iphone screen twice in between the User interaction in order to see the changes. I have this same problem with the Now2 app, where I have to tap the iphone screen twice for anything to register with the 'background' app. Ive checked and rechecked all settings including notifications, etc. Anyone have this problem or can assist with a fix for me? I assume its something with the way my iphone settings are configured but I can't figure it out. Appreciate any guidance, or please redirect me to the proper place to post if needed ☺︎
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jul 6, 2020 09:13AM)
No answer to your questions but welcome :)
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jul 6, 2020 03:37PM)
[quote]On Jul 6, 2020, fxcreator33 wrote:
Hi- new here, hope this question is ok to post here. I have the Picasso app on an iPhone, and the only way I can get it to operate is that I must tap the iphone screen twice in between the User interaction in order to see the changes. I have this same problem with the Now2 app, where I have to tap the iphone screen twice for anything to register with the 'background' app. Ive checked and rechecked all settings including notifications, etc. Anyone have this problem or can assist with a fix for me? I assume its something with the way my iphone settings are configured but I can't figure it out. Appreciate any guidance, or please redirect me to the proper place to post if needed ☺︎ [/quote]

Did background app refresh get turned off for Picasso under Settings>General?
Message: Posted by: fxcreator33 (Jul 6, 2020 05:48PM)
[quote]On Jul 6, 2020, videoman wrote:
[quote]On Jul 6, 2020, fxcreator33 wrote:
Hi- new here, hope this question is ok to post here. I have the Picasso app on an iPhone, and the only way I can get it to operate is that I must tap the iphone screen twice in between the User interaction in order to see the changes. I have this same problem with the Now2 app, where I have to tap the iphone screen twice for anything to register with the 'background' app. Ive checked and rechecked all settings including notifications, etc. Anyone have this problem or can assist with a fix for me? I assume its something with the way my iphone settings are configured but I can't figure it out. Appreciate any guidance, or please redirect me to the proper place to post if needed ☺︎ [/quote]

Did background app refresh get turned off for Picasso under Settings>General? [/quote]
No, its turned on 🙁