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Topic: What it's like?
Message: Posted by: landmark (May 9, 2020 05:49PM)
I thought maybe we could have a thread free from policy or political concerns--not that's there's anything wrong with that IMO, but it might be nice just to have a thread where people post what their experience has been so far. Since we come from a wide variety of locations it might be nice to hear how things are currently going with you.

Since last time I posted, the wail of sirens every day has considerably lessened; I still do not go into stores as I am extra careful living with my wife who is possibly at risk.

Several people close to me have tested positive; fortunately none of them have died. Quite alarming making sure they get the help they need. More than a handful of acquaintances and friends of friends have passed away.

I think I get lazier each day--where earlier on my day was very active, my discipline in reading, writing, magic, exercising and other activities is not as strong as it was at the beginning of this. I feel less guilty if I don't get anything done. Not happy with my unruly hair.

Enjoying "seeing" friends and family on Zoom, and taking a couple of classes over Zoom also, which is fun. My four siblings, who are spread out across the country, recently had a nice get together via Zoom, which was a nice surprise--and something we rarely get to do in normal times.

I'm fortunate that I am retired and don't have to worry about making a living. In some ways, the lockdown is a less hectic life, less social pressure. On the other hand, I'm probably doing more introspection than is healthy.

And under and over it all is a feeling of unreality, waiting to wake up from an alternate reality.

And how's it going by you?
Message: Posted by: Animated Puppets (May 9, 2020 06:44PM)
Still working 6 days a week. They locked down the base for a few days after a worker at the dining facility tested positive. I still go shopping on my day off at a mall/grocery where they have had 9 confirmed cases. Masks are required to enter and you have to put on oversized deli gloves before shopping (I bring/wear latex gloves).

Our company instituted social distancing in the office; only if your section has more than one person per section on duty. So a majority of the team are working half days. My position only has 1 counterpart so we work the full day and are exposed twice as much. I don't wear a mask in the office, but have hand sanitizer and rubbing alcohol on my desk.

Vacations are the bigger concern as we work overseas, airports/countries will need to be open without any self isolation prior to flying. Airline prices are really good right now too. So it will most likely be August before I get to go home and have a break.
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (May 9, 2020 07:26PM)
Thank you for this thread, Jack.

I've been wondering how things have been going with folks in various areas, myself. It's nice to have somewhere to discuss and process here. I'm saddened today about Roy and my heart and thoughts go out to him and to Siegfried and Lynette and their friends and families.

The immensity of Roy's contribution to magic and life itself- the gift of inspiration he bestowed upon any inclined to receive it is on my mind today.🌹💫✨🐯🐮🐱🐩🐦🐾🐬🐘🐴🐲🐶🌴🌵🌟🎩🎭🎼💡🔔🎵🎨🔓🔮🗽💯♿🔗💖💞💪👍👌👏✌👀👂🙌🌷
Message: Posted by: tommy (May 10, 2020 12:08AM)
As a Sportsman, I have managed to survive all my life without ever having a regular income but at the moment there are no games; no racing, no poker, no sports, no Guys and Dolls. Good luck.
Message: Posted by: landmark (May 10, 2020 09:26AM)
[quote]no Guys and Dolls[/quote]

Have you tried the sewer?

[youtube]BmEwtWBte84[/youtube]
Message: Posted by: Pete Legend (May 10, 2020 12:40PM)
Hey Tommy how's the form? What sports did you play and are you still active? My whole life is sport orientated. Played high level soccer underage here in Irelsnd, played senior club football (Gaelic Football) with my division. I still play and train 10-12 times a week (running, turbo bike sessions, recovery sessions, yoga, strength work etc) I also own a gym along with being a strength and conditioning coach plus my wife owns a yoga centre. I don't meet many people into sport and magic...for whatever reason they don't tend to mix!

Animated puppets how are you? If you don't mind me asking where are you based? I love to travel myself and have friends working all over the globe - I always kind of wondered what it would be like to work on a different continent for large chunks of time!

I know I'm probably being nosey asking these questions but I see you guys posting from time to time and genuinely interested!

P.S. Jack enjoyed reading your post!
Message: Posted by: Animated Puppets (May 10, 2020 02:01PM)
[quote]On May 10, 2020, Pete Legend wrote:

Animated puppets how are you? If you don't mind me asking where are you based? I love to travel myself and have friends working all over the globe - I always kind of wondered what it would be like to work on a different continent for large chunks of time!

[/quote]

Sent you a PM
Message: Posted by: tommy (May 10, 2020 04:32PM)
Pete, there are those who gamble and there are those who make a living from those who gamble and we Guys and Dolls in this game style ourselves sports, old sport. I host gambling parties but despite the casinos being closed we are getting no games because all the sports are at home playing on line. We also have an interest in a bar but I cannot see that reopening if this lockdown goes on much longer. I have been given an old age state pension, which is a grand total of £40 a week.
Message: Posted by: Animated Puppets (May 10, 2020 07:15PM)
They may be locking down our base again. When I went for my run I saw 2 buses and 1 van being escorted by Military Police. The peope in the buses/van were in hooded white suites with masks.

After my run my co-worker stated that they took all the dining facility workers away and closed the base gyms...
Message: Posted by: Pete Legend (May 11, 2020 09:10AM)
Thanks Tommy! I have never ventured in that world - I have a buddy who made somewhat of a living playing poker in a casino in the city here and also online. It must be a complete and utter disaster for the likes of yourself having no games, pub closed and surviving on £40 a week! How are you managing that? I think pubs here are reopening in August (Phase 5) though they are pushing for sooner - lots of them will never reopen again... Our gym and yoga centre won't reopen until August though in the meantime myself and the wife are receiving the Pandemic Payment of Ä350 each a week. It's keeping us going though you know yourself with multiple rents, electricity, gas, food....doesn't last too long!

Animated Puppets - sorry to hear that! They eased some restrictions here today and again on the 18th though they have warned that they could reintroduce the heavy restrictions once again if the numbers go back up. I think now people are getting pretty sick of it.
Message: Posted by: Animated Puppets (May 11, 2020 12:01PM)
Received this today in my work email.

1. **** ******* were turned away from work today at both *** and *** due to a high volume of positives.
2. There were 66 positive from the testing with 6 critical. Critical means symptomatic.


That is a significant jump from the 1 positive and 1 inconclusive they told us earlier this week...
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Oct 4, 2020 01:31AM)
"ARNPRIOR -- Renfrew Countyís top doctor says it is a matter of when, not if, the increasing COVID-19 cases spill over into the region from Ottawa."

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/mobile/renfrew-county-s-top-doctors-warns-of-covid-19-spill-over-from-ottawa-1.5130916

At least they're actually announcing cases here now by town. Early on, they would only announce county for "privacy reasons".

Arnprior has a population of about 10,000. They were concerned if town was reported, the public might be able to identify individuals with confirmed cases, as though that would be harmful somehow.

It became mandatory to wear masks indoors in apartment building common areas just a few weeks ago.

A lot of folks have been lax on masking and social distancing and wanting to gather at open mics and barbeques and things.

I think it's time to back things up again. Numbers are spiking in Canada and Ontario and Ottawa, as could be expected with all of the reopenings.

I hope more people will start to take this more seriously.

"New COVID-19 case in Arnprior"

https://arnpriortoday.ca/2020/10/02/new-covid-19-case-in-arnprior-but-5-more-cases-resolved-today/
Message: Posted by: Animated Puppets (Oct 11, 2020 02:38AM)
South Park recently had an episode called the Pandemic Special.

One of their spoofs was the coining of people wearing masks around their chins as [i]Chin Diapers[/i].

It has gone from letting your nose peak out to loosely hanging upon the chin.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/8PBSVWf.png[/img]
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Feb 27, 2021 08:15PM)
"On Feb. 26, the health unit issued a warning following numerous positive cases in Arnprior and McNab/Braeside."

https://www.toronto.com/news-story/9995628-29-confirmed-active-covid-19-cases-in-renfrew-county-feb-27/


"A rising number of COVID-19 cases in the Arnprior area over the past week is being linked to a social gathering in Renfrew County.

The Renfrew County and District Health Unit says over the past week, nine residents of Arnprior and five individuals that reside in the Township of McNab/Braeside have tested positive for novel coronavirus.

The health unit has also identified 37 high-risk contacts and six local businesses affected by the cases.

'Many of these cases attended the same social gathering, and several others are considered close contacts of those that attended the gathering,' said the health unit in a statement.

The Renfrew County and District Health Unit has directed all persons and businesses impacted to self-monitor and/or self-isolate until exposure and risks have been assessed by the contact tracing team.

'I really encourage the residents of Arnprior to take this virus seriously and not let your guard down,' said Arnprior Mayor Walter Stack."

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/social-gathering-linked-to-rising-number-of-covid-19-cases-in-arnprior-area-1.5325979
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Feb 28, 2021 01:57PM)
How's it going?

Not great, to say the least.
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Feb 28, 2021 02:32PM)
Nice to see you, gaddy. Take care.

It's troubling that we're so close to getting the public vaccinated, and all the while, some are continually ignoring safety measures. Numbers rising here. I hope they go ahead and lock it right down until those who want the vaccine, receive it. At least, numbers are finally going public here- I hope it will be taken more seriously.

"According to the health unit, those who were infected then worked at or visited seven local businesses while contagious. The health unit closed one business, Cushman said, while several other businesses chose to temporarily shut down on their own.

The cases involve roughly five households, the health unit said.

'What you're seeing here, I think, is just sort of wanton disrespect and neglect,' Cushman said."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/renfrew-county-outbreak-arnprior-1.5930838
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Feb 28, 2021 03:05PM)
And it is a pleasure to converse with you again, Laurie! I wish the circumstances were better, though...

It's tragically ironic that this is the case- Where we've all sacrificed so much for so long only to have all of the benefits of that loss disappear in a fit of pique and/or carelessness born of weariness...

I've often said that one of the most unfortunate symptoms of this virus is how casually one can disregard All of the warning signs until, of course, one ends up in the ICU.

[I]"It's just like a mild flu..."[/i] say the people whose relatives aren't waiting in line for a ventilator. if the symptoms of this disease or something more kin to, say Ebola where you're bleeding out of your eyeballs and anus it would be a little harder for the deniers to gain any traction... But here we are, behaving badly until the very last moment when someone else's hard work swoops in to save us with another miracle cure. Possibly.
Message: Posted by: landmark (Feb 28, 2021 03:24PM)
In NYC, the vaccine roll out for over 65s and those with co-morbidities has really geared up in the last two weeks. It's a bit of a pain to get an appointment, but I would say any person in those risk groups is able to get a vaccine if they want one at this point.

From what I've seen from the national death toll numbers, it looks like they've decreased about a third since the beginning of the year, which is certainly a good sign, but the numbers are still above what they were last summer.

I do worry about the national push for school and eatery openings. Everywhere that's been done, the numbers go back up. Can openings be done safely? I think so, but it's just bizarre to me that the pols and business people who are pushing for that kind of opening are often the same ones who do not want to actually figure out how (or spend the money?) to open such establishments safely. Right now, I'm leaning towards the pessimistic side and think we may snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Message: Posted by: NicholasD25 (Feb 28, 2021 05:11PM)
Iím 75, got my first Moderna injection a couple of weeks ago. Have been going to the gym, getting coffee at Dunkiní Donuts, going to the grocery store ever since this all started. While Iím concerned, I wear a mask and keep my distance. Itís frustrating to see people, especially in the gym, wearing their masks incorrectly. ( I tell them about it , BTW )
Having said that, I believe we have the wherewithal to open schools safely right now. Iíll refrain from getting into the politics of why schools arenít opening now.
I live in Maryland.
Message: Posted by: landmark (Feb 28, 2021 05:56PM)
I can't speak from experience about schools outside NYC, though I suspect most big city school systems will have the same issue as here in NYC--how do you have all children return to a school building and still maintain social distancing?

With a class of 34, you are literally looking at one foot as the greatest distance among students; if a teacher needs to walk from the front of the room to the back of the room, you are within inches of students.

The worst part though is that there is no air circulation in most classrooms--in cold weather if the window is closed, it's airless. It's a real breeding ground for viruses. Not necessarily insurmountable, but I don't see anyone actually trying to solve these kinds of problems and actually asking the people that work in these buildings what their needs are.
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Apr 1, 2021 01:01AM)
"COVID-19: Ford to announce shutdown;...

Etches raised the possibility of going even one step further and enacting stay-at-home orders if residents donít show greater restraint to halt the growing spread of COVID voluntarily.

'That just takes away a little bit more of the choice from people, and that is one of the things that may happen if COVID levels continue to rise.

But we need to do all we can to turn this around, until we see the vaccines providing the kind of protection that we foresee.'

Ottawa Public Health, Etches noted, has been reporting new daily cases in the triple digits this week, while the infection rate has doubled since Ottawa was moved from the orange to the red zone two weeks ago. 'So that has clearly not worked.

'Our health-care system is stretched. Cases are rising, hospitalizations are increasing, the testing centres are maxed out, and our case management team is no longer able to contact trace as we have through previous resurgences.'

Meanwhile, variants of concern in Ottawaís wastewater have soared, from just 10 per cent of detected COVID on March 20 to 50 per cent five days later, indicating especially high transmission levels."
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/covid-19-ontario-reports-2333-new-cases-124-in-ottawa


"From green to red in a week, eastern Ontario region serves as warning bell for others"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/leeds-grenville-lanark-red-zone-1.5959420


I'm in Renfrew County- we're surrounded by Lanark/Leeds/Grenville, and Ottawa- Guess these guys hadn't heard from the premiere yet, this evening. They're going to move us into orange, they think. While pretty well stating they know we need more than that:


"Renfrew Countyís top doctor says there are many factors compounding his worries, including 14 positive variant cases and the proximity the Ottawa;...

Renfrew County Paramedic Chief Mike Nolan, whose team does a majority of the COVID swabbing in the area.

'The numbers of people showing up at swabbing clinics has really exploded over the past week or so," says Nolan. "The days and weeks to come I think should be of concern to all of us knowing that the variant is here in Renfrew County.'"
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/renfrew-county-expected-to-move-into-the-covid-19-orange-zone-1.5370408
Message: Posted by: landmark (Apr 1, 2021 06:37AM)
That's troubling to hear, Laurie. I would say here in NYC, it looks like contrary to where you live, we're on the downside of the curve now; deaths are down and vaccines for those over 50 are readily available. Most people I know in my age group have been vaccinated.

I would say, personally, I am concerned about the return of unrestricted indoor gatherings--gyms, bars, restaurants. If done carelessly, it could be a problem. Schools, too, require thought and resources to open properly. I think here in NYC, there *has* been attention to doing it properly (strangely, what had been a real issue is the tension between the governor and the mayor, political rivals, undercutting each other. Now that the governor has been weakened politically due to ongoing scandals, paradoxically, the city government's response is more unified and consistent.)

Broadway theaters are set to open in September. While I really feel for the actors and designers and technicians who have really suffered for a whole year, to me this is the most tricky area--movie and legit theaters. I don't see how their business models will allow the audience or performers to socially distance. It will be interesting to see how creatively this is all handled.
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Apr 1, 2021 12:52PM)
Thank you for your response, Jack.

"Groups representing Ontario's doctors, nurses and hospital administrators are calling for stronger measures to slow the growth of new infections.

Allowing variants to spread further 'unethical,' ICU doctors say
A group of 153 ICU physicians issued an open letter to the government Thursday urging stricter public health measures.

The letter warns that the doctors are seeing younger patients ó including parents of school-aged children ó and entire families sickened by the more contagious coronavirus variants of concern.

'Even if we had unlimited ICU capacity, allowing these [variants of concern] to spread exponentially is unethical,' the letter says.

'As ICU doctors, we are the last line of defence, and we are ringing the alarm bell. Please hear it.'...


...'The situation is the most serious that it's ever been,' said Anthony Dale, president of the Ontario Hospital Association. 'Our critical care system in Ontario is not built for a mass casualty event like this.'

The record-high numbers of COVID-19 patients in intensive care are a result of the fact that the new variants of the virus are tending to make people sicker than the original strain of the virus.

A significantly greater proportion of people getting infected in Ontario's third wave is ending up in intensive care than at any point in the pandemic."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/covid-19-ontario-shutdown-hospital-intensive-care-icu-patients-1.5969831
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 1, 2021 10:36PM)
The question is how do you hide from a virus?

Perhaps less lies and political bs would have helped from the start.

I had hoped that a silver lining of this horrible thing would be for us to see others with whom we disagree as PEOPLE. Nope. Not even close. We're all in this together, and still most don't see it.

Laurie please stay safe. I hope the best for you and yours. We are all in it together!
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Apr 2, 2021 12:50AM)
Thank you, Danny. Appreciated. :)

My Dad's sister passed on last night (April 1, and I'm not convinced that's a coincidence- black irish ;) ). She was 92, which she may not appreciate me saying, and I haven't been visiting as much as I'd like the past year because of Covid- didn't want to expose her or my mother. She'd been in hospital the last month with both knees fractured, and overall declining health, naturally, but I didn't visit her, for the same reason. She was vaccinated on admittance to the hospital, fortunately, but my Mom, who just turned 78 (March 23) hasn't been yet. Living in an apartment building further complicates the situation, so it's a stressful time, obviously, for everyone.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 2, 2021 08:11AM)
Oh that is one of the overlooked tragic aspects of this ugly mess.

I'm sorry for your loss.
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Apr 2, 2021 10:54AM)
Thank you, Danny.
Message: Posted by: tommy (Apr 2, 2021 05:51PM)
Today our granddaughter was two and the only people who came to her party were her grandparents.

Yesterday we went to a funeral and met an old lady who had outlived her three daughters.

Such is life.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 2, 2021 10:17PM)
I stand by my sympathy for Laurie and her situation.
Message: Posted by: tommy (Apr 3, 2021 06:23AM)
Wonders never cease!
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Apr 7, 2021 02:59PM)
"Ontario has declared its third state of emergency since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic and will be implementing a provincewide stay-at-home order as of Thursday.

'...right now, above all else, our plan is to get needles in the arms and protect our hospitals. That's why, today, on the advice of the chief medical officer of health I'm declaring a state of emergency.'

...In addition to the closure of most businesses, the stay-at-home order makes it illegal to leave a place of residence, except for essential reasons such as work, school, trips to a grocery store or pharmacy and for health-care reasons.

'To boil it down as simple as possible, folks please stay home unless it is for an essential reason,' Ford added."

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-issues-stay-at-home-order-and-declares-third-state-of-emergency-1.5377410
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 8, 2021 04:49PM)
I'm confused about something.

A vaccine with over 98% efficacy is given to health care workers. Why is being a health care worker so scary?

I get the job is not fun. No doubt seeing masses of sick and dying folks is horrible. But I'm asking about risk now.

It is NOT like the beginning with no vaccine and no knowledge and we are acting as if it is.
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Apr 8, 2021 06:05PM)
By "protect our hospitals", they are referring to the need to keep hospitalizations below capacity so as to prevent patients from facing denial of life saving treatments.

Discussion of getting needles into arms refers to the public and many vulnerable demographics that aren't yet vaccinated. The variant strains of the virus are spreading more rapidly, outpacing vaccination and therefore leaving many susceptible to what are considered more contagious and dangerous strains. In Canada. Not sure about other areas since I haven't checked global updates recently.

For those of us who haven't been vaccinated, it is very much like, and, even, worse, than it was before vaccines, fwiw.

"Canada has emerged as one of the only countries in the world with significant outbreaks of three different variants occurring at the same time ó turning us into a giant experiment on the world stage."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/coronavirus-variants-canada-covid-19-vaccine-third-wave-1.5978394
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Apr 9, 2021 08:04AM)
Oh they are speaking to overwhelming the system. THAT makes some sense thank you. I missed that.

Because when this all started it WAS very scary for the workers themselves!