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Topic: Knot off a loop
Message: Posted by: eaglescout1134 (Jul 20, 2020 02:07AM)
I feel like I have seen an effect in the past where you tie a rope so it creates a loop. Then the magician proceeds to take the knot off the rope and you are left a solid loop made of rope. I have seen Pops Mongolian Rope Trick and it is not the trick I am thinking of.
Thanks
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jul 20, 2020 09:26AM)
That would require a gimmick rope, and there is only one product that you would be able to do such as an effect as that. The Instanto Rope. But it does not explain the effect you are feeling. You would have to come up with the method yourself, if you have knowledge of forming false knots.

Abbott's is the only place I know that sells it.

https://www.abbottmagic.com/Abbotts-Instanto-Rope-ABBinstantrope.htm?categoryId=-1
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jul 20, 2020 12:06PM)
Just ran across the Instanto Rope effect, described as in your post. The rope is red color and much less expensive as my previous listing.

Enjoy your new found rope effect. Hope you get it before they are sold out.

https://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=TB5580
Message: Posted by: thomasR (Jul 20, 2020 03:47PM)
You might have seen Mac King perform it. He covers some very clever rope tricks in his penguin lecture, an excellent purchase. Im trying to remember if this particular trick is included, Ill check it out when I get the chance.
Message: Posted by: Ray Pierce (Jul 20, 2020 06:32PM)
That is also one segment of George Sands wonderful Ropesational routine. It uses no gimmicked ropes.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jul 21, 2020 06:57PM)
Eaglescout1134,

Just purchased Daryl's Rope Routine Download from Penguin Magic.

The second effect performed is the knot off loop of rope. This is a great rope routine, by the late Daryl. no gimmicks, just great handling. On the video Daryl mentions George Sands. Daryl was one that did his research at finding effects and moves and adding his talent to the effects.

https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/5620
Message: Posted by: ajb6864 (Aug 19, 2020 02:06PM)
You could also use the same methodology as 'knots off silk' routine.

Aldo Colombini had several routines that would possibly suit your purposes as well.
Message: Posted by: JNeal (Sep 18, 2020 10:17PM)
There was a trick from Japan that was marketed using a regular rope and a circle of rope. this loop of rope was entwined in such way that it looked like you had just an overhand knot tied in the rope
You then added a rather convoluted knot (based on the Chefalo knot if I recall), when the ends were pulled the majority of the knot dissolved and the loop dropped off the rope.

It was well made and easily learned, but unfortunately, I have forgotten the actual name!
Message: Posted by: Ray Pierce (Sep 19, 2020 03:15AM)
This is killing me as I remember it so well. Was it something like O-Rope-O or something like that?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Sep 19, 2020 08:09AM)
Just a thought on the knot. I used to do the showlace effect frequently, especially with kids shows --so-so response. Parents likes it as it had "theme."
Then I started having pre-tied knot in my pocket, retrievable with the woofledust.
With the rope extended from and to foot I would slap the "mangled knot" and the palmed one would fly out into the audience. Instant hit!
Even in later Medieval settingas it was a much requested effect. Cheap give-away and I had dozen in pouch all the time.

So, give some thought to tossing the knot. Even with COVID it might have the feel of audience participation.
Message: Posted by: corpmagi (Feb 14, 2021 02:07PM)
[quote]On Sep 19, 2020, Ray Pierce wrote:
This is killing me as I remember it so well. Was it something like O-Rope-O or something like that? [/quote]

I think Ray hit it on the head with this one. I still have the ropes, but no instructions. I came across this today on Jeki Yoos IG Page . Not the same trick, but it reminded me of O-Rope-O.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CLLNOO7lQoK/?igshid=5kqmuor9wbgs
Message: Posted by: countrymaven (Feb 20, 2021 11:26AM)
I like your idea here. IF we really think about it, rope magic has often not used enough imagination and 3 d shapes.
There is another effect I saw recently where the knot is taken off and it becomes a square rope loop.

HOw about 'bending' a rope into the shape of a dove and producing a dove from it?
It seems that rope magic, as we normally do it, could use an injection of imagination. using it to form 3d objects as part of the effect....
Message: Posted by: JNeal (Feb 26, 2021 05:18PM)
Ray was right
O rope O sounds about right!