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Topic: Putting someone back under hypnosis
Message: Posted by: okiya (Aug 4, 2020 01:36PM)
I've heard that after hypnotizing someone once, it is easier to put them back into a hypnotic state another time. Is this true? If so, why is this the case ?
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Aug 4, 2020 01:47PM)
It is true. As for why it is true, it is true because you tell them it is.
Message: Posted by: okiya (Aug 4, 2020 02:38PM)
[quote]On Aug 4, 2020, Dannydoyle wrote:
It is true. As for why it is true, it is true because you tell them it is. [/quote]

Do you mean that you set up some sort of trigger that you can use when you want to put them back under hypnosis?
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Aug 4, 2020 05:37PM)
No, though that can work.
Message: Posted by: okiya (Aug 4, 2020 06:13PM)
[quote]On Aug 4, 2020, Dannydoyle wrote:
No, though that can work. [/quote]

Then what do you mean ? (I'm new to hypnosis)
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Aug 4, 2020 07:20PM)
Take the time to learn hypnosis properly in sequential order and you will find the answer. An answer out of proper context won't likely be helpful. It is simply a step in the process.
Message: Posted by: okiya (Aug 4, 2020 07:29PM)
[quote]On Aug 4, 2020, Mindpro wrote:
Take the time to learn hypnosis properly in sequential order and you will find the answer. An answer out of proper context won't likely be helpful. It is simply a step in the process. [/quote]

Thank you for responding. Are there any books you'd recommend? (I have Reality is Plastic)
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Aug 4, 2020 07:36PM)
No, not at all. I am not a fan of books for learning hypnosis or Reality Is Plastic. Too much fake, pretend, or pseudo hypnosis in much of what is available today, especially through magic channels.

Also learning stage hypnosis is different than clinical hypnosis or hypnotherapy. Live training or coaching is what I always recommend.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Aug 4, 2020 08:02PM)
[quote]On Aug 4, 2020, okiya wrote:
[quote]On Aug 4, 2020, Mindpro wrote:
Take the time to learn hypnosis properly in sequential order and you will find the answer. An answer out of proper context won't likely be helpful. It is simply a step in the process. [/quote]

Thank you for responding. Are there any books you'd recommend? (I have Reality is Plastic) [/quote]

Yea I admire your looking to find answers but Mindpro is right. You need to learn from the start, not from patchwork responses put together

The reason is that your questions will occur to you sort of out of order. This means that you won't have the proper foundation with which to understand the answers and it becomes much more confusing.

The problem with the huge percentage of books I have seen in recent years is simply that they do not go at it as a teaching tool from start to finish. Rather it is patchwork as it occurs to the author. This does not make for a good foundational base for which to learn from.

I do not know of a comprehensive book to recommend.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Aug 4, 2020 08:08PM)
[quote]On Aug 4, 2020, okiya wrote:
[quote]On Aug 4, 2020, Dannydoyle wrote:
No, though that can work. [/quote]

Then what do you mean ? (I'm new to hypnosis) [/quote]

I will tell you this and hopefully it starts you on your journey. "Reality" in the course of the show (And mind you we are talking about entertainment stage hypnosis here.) is what YOU TELL THEM it is. It is that simple, and that complicated all at the same time.

If you tell them that people who have been hypnotized before are really easy to put back under and give them some plausible explanation why then it works like a charm. (I do this at times.) You don't have to give them trigger words, you don't have to do anything but define the reality, and then follow through on it.

99% or more of your audience has NO CLUE about hypnosis. You are "educating" them about the process and the night. SO you can "educate" them however you like! Your process is defined by you. Said with confidence ANYTHING can be possible almost.
Message: Posted by: okiya (Aug 4, 2020 10:35PM)
[quote]On Aug 4, 2020, Dannydoyle wrote:
[quote]On Aug 4, 2020, okiya wrote:
[quote]On Aug 4, 2020, Mindpro wrote:
Take the time to learn hypnosis properly in sequential order and you will find the answer. An answer out of proper context won't likely be helpful. It is simply a step in the process. [/quote]

Thank you for responding. Are there any books you'd recommend? (I have Reality is Plastic) [/quote]

Yea I admire your looking to find answers but Mindpro is right. You need to learn from the start, not from patchwork responses put together

The reason is that your questions will occur to you sort of out of order. This means that you won't have the proper foundation with which to understand the answers and it becomes much more confusing.

The problem with the huge percentage of books I have seen in recent years is simply that they do not go at it as a teaching tool from start to finish. Rather it is patchwork as it occurs to the author. This does not make for a good foundational base for which to learn from.

I do not know of a comprehensive book to recommend. [/quote]

Thank you for your insight !
I'll read through some books to get a better grasp of the fundamentals
Message: Posted by: bluejay17! (Jan 11, 2021 07:22PM)
Honestly, the way I learned is from the book "The Hypnotist and the Magician" by Christopher Harris. Once you read it, its all just practice.
Message: Posted by: michaelpenkul (Jan 23, 2021 10:44PM)
Just to add on to the great explanations above - when you introduce yourself as a hypnotist, they have an expectation of you and your skill, which is why even as a beginner hypnotist, you need to come across as a professional in your confidence and sureness, in order for participants to actually believe what you're saying. This works even better after you've already hypnotised them once - they're now aware of your ability to bring them to that state, and they're familiar with how to reach that state, and so in the future when you hypnotise them again, they will be much more susceptable to it.
Message: Posted by: mindmagic (Jan 24, 2021 03:32AM)
Ericksonian hypnotherapists know this as the "previous trance" induction. It is generally much easier to hypnotise a person for the second time, and you can do it by asking them to remember their previous experience. It's also built into Dave Elman's induction, which you can find both in his book (for hypnotherapists only) and in the McGill New Encyclopedia, under the title "The Relaxation Method".

Barry