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Message: Posted by: Magicman8 (Jun 9, 2004 12:14PM)
Does anybody know where I could find a cheap rabbit? I looked at pet stores but it is beyond my price range. (50-60 dollars to much) And I am not riding to Timbuckto for a rabbit.

(Shhh, be vewy vewy quiet, I is hunting wabbits. Hee,hee,hee)

Message: Posted by: GuySavoie (Jun 9, 2004 08:22PM)
It depends on what type of rabbit, of course.

In our town, there is a rabbit rescue league. The price here is close to the price of a "new" rabbit, though. You might find a similar league in your area.

Still, it makes sense to be ruthlessly honest with yourself. Rabbits deserve to be pets and pals, not just props. That's a multi-year commitment, and if you don't want to, or cannot, afford the rabbit, you might be hard pressed to provide it with a proper cage, proper food and hay, etc.

Good luck,

Message: Posted by: Magicman8 (Jun 10, 2004 11:44AM)
Pretty much I want just a plain white rabbit. I understand that it is not just a prop, and that it needs constant care. I already have a cage, a huge supply of hay, and also an easy way to get food. Basically I have everything except the rabbit. Thanks anyway though.

Message: Posted by: magicmike001 (Jun 11, 2004 12:15PM)
Look in your newspaper classifieds under pets. There almost always giving a pet rabbit away to a good home.

Good luck!
Message: Posted by: Tom James (Jun 12, 2004 11:22AM)
Try looking on the internet for a breeder. You will be able to find a rabbit for about 5 to 20 dollars.

Message: Posted by: mdspark (Jun 12, 2004 10:29PM)
Make sure you know what size rabbit you need/want. If you need a small rabbit, the Netherlands Dwarf is the way to go. Some production boxes etc. aren't made for medium to large rabbits.
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Jun 13, 2004 02:27PM)
Always try the animal shelter first! Get on the "Want List"! Free rabbits do exist.

I've never paid more than $10 each and have had scores of them. Most run $2-$5 in the South and MidWest. Pet stores have mall rents to pay. They pass that on to you.

Lucy likes to keep the same rabbit for years. I prefer changing rabbits about every two weeks.

Females aren't as bad about wetting your props. The puddles you save, count! It's nice to have a "no count" rabbit.

Good Luck!

Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 13, 2004 03:03PM)
I paid $25 for my dwarf. I agree with most here but I chose a male because they are less aggressive. I found mine in classifieds (breeder). Since mine was a bit larger than the rest, she let me have him for $25 instead of the normal $35.
Message: Posted by: J.S.llusionDesigns (Jun 18, 2004 07:30PM)
I paid $35.00 for my Holland lop. Remember that you still have to buy the stuff to take care of your bunny. For example, cage, food, and a water bottle which I like but also you might like using a bowl.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 22, 2004 02:05AM)
Good point...I was so fortunate in that area Masked. I just happened to be looking at a $125 hutch and saw a classified board at the feed store I was in. A gal was selling her double hutch, 40 lbs of pellets, and new feeders for only $20. I took the hutch home and painted it and did some rewiring. Good as new.

Many people get tired of their rabbits or the rabbit dies. They then almost give away the stuff if you look (or in my case not look:).
Message: Posted by: Regan (Jun 25, 2004 08:27AM)
Look for a dependable breeder. I usually pay around $25 for my netherland dwarfs. My first 2 purchases were from a pet store and the cost was more. One rabbit I got from the pet store turned out not to be a full-blooded dwarf and he got too large. With a breeder you know exactly what you are getting. By the way, I paid $60 for my last bunny but he is show quality. I do not regret it as he is the best "magic" bunny I have ever owned.
Message: Posted by: rossmacrae (Jul 2, 2004 10:24PM)
Good heavens, "pets and pals"...?

Maybe, if a pet is what you want, and I'd never suggest cruel treatment, but a large part of the world considers rabbits to be FOOD!

My last rabbit started leaping to bite everyone in my family who came to feed him (no trouble with 4 previous rabbits) - and even if I was going to tolerate having myself, my wife and my children bitten, the very idea of "come on up and pet the bunny kids!" suddenly brought thoughts of lawsuits.

That rabbit was GONE!

And in getting another, I found such a variety of attituides. My county does not permit rabbit sales at all (who can say why?) but I was directed 30 miles to a "rabbit rescue leagu" and much closer to my local animal shelter (source of our MUCH more intelligent dog, who has never bitten anyone.) Each one wanted all sorts of information and time to think about it ... the shelter wanted to make a "home visit" ... I had shows the next day and didn't want to adopt a rabbit, apply for a rabbit, foster-care a rabbit, rehabilitate a rabbit, qualify for a rabbit...

The next county in the other direction was easier to deal with. $35, and they threw in a cardboard box to take him home in.
Message: Posted by: GuySavoie (Jul 7, 2004 09:41PM)
Hi Ross!

Yes, good heavens, "pets and pals." To give some perspective, on several occasions, I've hunted and cooked wild rabbits. But this is not about wild rabbits, it's about part of a show.

Honestly, I have no interest in what a large part of the world considers. I'm 5'9" and used to weigh a slovenly 270 pounds. If I worried about the considerations of the majority, I would have never stepped out on stage!

My ultimate concern is to share the most entertainment with my audiences. It's financially prudent.

My real world experience with several rabbits on stage leads me to advocate for the treatment of rabbits in a very friendly way - as a pet.

First, *because* they are a prey animals, they have to consider their very lives in every situation. A high anxiety life, for certain. Jarring experiences and rough handling on and off stage traumatize rabbits. Ignoring the anxiety level of my rabbit is economically equivalent to abusing one of my props. It's not wise.

Second, a terrified or withdrawn rabbit is not as entertaining to my audiences. A happy, comfortable rabbit is more active, inquisitive, and gets better audience reactions. On the other side of the equation, if audience members perceive I'm mistreating my rabbit, they will not have a good time at my show. I conciously choose to make the rabbits, and any spectator who might be sensitive to my interaction with live animals "at ease" during my show.

I intentionally choose to breed a positive onstage interaction with my rabbit through a genuine pet relationship, and I will continue to strongly advocate for others to do the same.

--- Guy
Message: Posted by: Bob Johnston (Jul 19, 2004 12:32AM)

Your thoughtful reflections on rabbits is much appreciated. I too have hunting in my past, but have since come to appreciate very much the gentle and defensive nature of domestic rabbits.

I found the "pets and pals"...? comment cold. You could make the same argument about dogs as there are countries that kill dogs for food. Very few rabbits do aggressive biting without cause. As you point out, they are passive animals that spend their every waking minute trying not to get eaten.

My (female rabbit), a PET and SHOW STOPPER has some aggressive moves when she is in her cage. This is normal for females as their instincts are to protect the nest. She spends most of her time in our den and never pee’s or “pilles” on the floor as long as I get her back into her cage after a few hours.

I never have to worry about her at a show with children. When I am cleaning up my props, she is out on my roller case entertaining the small children. Since rabbits have little articulation in their front feet, they sometime “bite” gently to examine something to see what it is. I had a little girl holding my rabbit after a show and the rabbit bit a shirt button in half. The child was not upset, her mother was not upset and she kept holding my rabbit until I had to leave.

I have found that children (and parents) are very aware of the treatment you give a rabbit in a show.

I am a pretty tough man about most things. But recently there was a story from Allentown, PA about some young adults that took a family rabbit (of 7 years) out of a hutch in someone’s back yard and threw it off a bridge to its death into a junk yard. So much for the "pets and pals"...? and the “rabbits are FOOD thinking.

Message: Posted by: Dakota Rose (Jul 19, 2004 07:46AM)
Hi Magic Man,

My first bunny I got was from a pet store. They told me she was a dwarf but within a year, I soon found out she wasn't. (Wouldn't fit in the production boxes anymore) She's beautiful, sweet, and a great pet.

Mom and I went to a county fair and hung around the bunny barn and talked to people. We easily found breeders and got 2 beautiful blue eyed white netherland dwarfs. (about $35 each and worth every penny) They are both very docile and sweet with the kids. Do great in production boxes too.

There should be a lot of county fairs coming soon this time of year. Just a thought.

Dakota Rose
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Sep 7, 2004 09:29PM)
Try performing at an agricultural fair as I do dozens of times thru out the summer. I just got me some cool rabbits dirt cheap...absolutly free!

One is white the other is black, and I yet to have come up w/anything really cool to do w/them.

Johnny mystic
Message: Posted by: Rupert Bair (Sep 8, 2004 11:50AM)
I paid £20 possibly about $45 for my 'netthie'. He is also an albino and kids love his red eyes! Like Dakota rose says, it is great he has NEVER wet my props and he sits very still and I can just leave him on my table and he won't move. I'm waiting for my second rabbit. A cross between a Netherland and an English lop. They are really small with big ears! I can't wait.
Message: Posted by: p.b.jones (Sep 9, 2004 12:29PM)
A cross between a Netherland and an English lop. They are really small with big ears! I can't wait.

Bet it won,t be!
Message: Posted by: Daniel Faith (Sep 23, 2004 12:53AM)
If you can't afford the price of a rabbit wait until you have to buy the cage and everything else. The rabbit is by far the cheapest part.
Message: Posted by: rjsmith608 (Sep 23, 2004 07:02AM)
We have eight rabbits here at home. Most of them are pets because my fiencee is a vet assistant. But I agree and David Ginn has told me that males are less agressive also and to get them younger. Also he told me in a brief rabbit conversation that white ones are a bit calmer he finds. I tried using Elmer our tan dwarf and he freaked out in the production box. Soon as I get a chance I still would love to work with a rabbit but I have to wait. We own to many rabbits already. We love them all. Our oldest is 6 years old. Our biggest rabbit is 9 pounds.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Sep 23, 2004 08:06AM)
Dakota is correct. It is very easy at county fairs to get rabbits. 4-H kids have rabbit projects and often have litters and they need to get rid of the little ones. Often you can pick up a rabbit for $5. and they are usually used to being handled so they are somewhat docile.

We used to have a guy in the local magic club that was a certified rabbit judge. Yes there are such things. Some breeds are judged according to the ear length. I.E. Netherland Dwarf must have certain length ears to be a quality contest animal. If the ears are too long or too short, they are no good for contest and ultimately breeding. My point is to talk to rabbit breeders and see if they have any such animals available.

I still remember going to pet stores for Harry Blackstone trying to find baby Netherland drawfs that would fit into a quart jar for the rabbit trick. Needless, to say I tried not to let the pet store people see exactly what I was doing so they didn't think I was abusing the animals (I wasn't). Can you imagine trying to explain this?
Message: Posted by: Rupert Bair (Sep 23, 2004 02:13PM)
Bet it won't be!

I was joking! I'm getting next Saturday. I think I'm going to call it sooty, sooty and snowy.
Posted: Oct 3, 2004 1:29pm
A cross between a Netherland and an English lop. They are really small with big ears! I can't wait.

Bet it won't be!

Hehe got it today and I was right it is small with big ears!