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Topic: Elephant from Denmark
Message: Posted by: protik (Jun 15, 2004 03:14PM)
"Elephant from Denmark" is a great mental trick. When I perform it for anyone, they just can't believe it. But I've improved this trick. In the normal trick, the first part looks like a math magic (who knows the trick understands what I am saying). But my version is free from it. It's great.
Message: Posted by: Bernard Sim (Jun 15, 2004 08:26PM)
Want to share?
Message: Posted by: protik (Jun 16, 2004 02:40PM)
No, thanks.
Message: Posted by: Fon (Jun 23, 2004 04:08AM)
LMAO :hysteric:

Fon
Message: Posted by: Roodsnavel (Jun 23, 2004 01:00PM)
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On 2004-06-16 15:40, protik wrote:
No,thanks.
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This is a nice topic, it makes me curious.
Message: Posted by: Shade (Jul 27, 2004 04:42PM)
There is a nice Elephant from Denmark effect on Mark Jenesets "Magicard". If you don't know what it is, its a credit card with all these fun little tricks on it. Math tricks at that. Carry it with you everywhere you carry your wallet. its great.
Message: Posted by: Zanther (Sep 2, 2004 04:29AM)
I've been using this trick for a few months. It works well on some people (if they haven't heard it before), but others (like my closer friends) always seem to figure it out, immediately.

Some remember the math trick from when they learned multiplication in elementary school and others just come up with the answer (within seconds) by doing it in their heads choosing a different starting number.

Anyway, I'd be interested in hearing your version. It seems that if it were made less mathematical and more story-like, it would be more awing (and thus more fun)

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On 2004-06-15 16:14, protik wrote:
"Elephant from Denmark" is a great mental trick. When I perform it for anyone,they just can't belive it. But I've improved this trick. In the normal trick, the first part looks like a math magic (who knows the trick understands what I am saying). But my version is free from it. It's great.
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Message: Posted by: Mauricio Jaramillo (Sep 13, 2004 12:54AM)
I've always thought of this as the most obvious force ever. Anyhow, what's different about your version?
Message: Posted by: dr chutney (Sep 13, 2004 01:59AM)
You always think that this is the most obvious force and the world and his wife must know it but ...

About 18 months ago I did it for a small social evening, about 50 people, and the buzz in the hall at the conclusion was amazing. So we can't always assume, and yet if I thought of doing it again I would still worry about familiarity. Hence I do try and get the creative juices working on this one, to create a new Elephants and generate that buzz again.

And so far? Let's just say it's still a work in progress, amongst others.
Message: Posted by: Dr.Maya Baalaamurugaan (Sep 21, 2004 08:39AM)
There are other methods to force the '4'...
but they don't always work in a group.......
Message: Posted by: DamienT98 (Oct 17, 2004 02:46PM)
It is a nice trick, but that chances of finding someone that hasn't already done it would be hard.

Even if you have improved it. ;-) hehe
Message: Posted by: Piper1973 (Nov 9, 2004 03:22PM)
I agree most of the folks I work with already know it. Given some thought though, I don't think it would be hard to come up with a similar effect.
Message: Posted by: jonnycardel (Nov 12, 2004 10:51AM)
I find 1 out of ten know it but it still goes down well :stuckinbag:
Message: Posted by: Alan Morgan (Nov 16, 2004 07:10PM)
I admit to using it once or twice.
Make sure you say 'circus animal' because people have come up with Elk, Emu...
Message: Posted by: Muddy (Dec 14, 2004 05:07PM)
You can get burned with Dominica too
Message: Posted by: Hideo Kato (Dec 17, 2004 09:04AM)
If you don't like a mathematical Force, you can force 'D' from alphabet cards. Classic Force, Svengali type Force, or any other more natural Force. Then proceed as the original method.

Hideo Kato
Message: Posted by: Devilix (Jan 2, 2005 06:52PM)
"I find 1 out of ten know it but it still goes down well "

Same over here. The only problem I got its that I always have 2-3 people who are completly loss when come the time to calculate.

Devilix
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (Jan 3, 2005 12:10PM)
Use a STATE in the USA. Delaware is the ONLY state that fits the bill as North Dakota starts with an 'N' and South Dakota starts with an 'S.'

Most people in the USA are familiar with the states of the union, many Americans, however, are woefully inept at world geography.

For the method of arriving at the correct number - I use a deck of cards. Most Americans hate doing math, too, in my experience. ;) This is more direct for me, allows me to move into another routine altogether and still has the impact of the original in the eyes of the audience without the heightened probability of someone having a problem with the math.

Lee Darrow, C.H.
Message: Posted by: JohnnyNykkon (Jan 4, 2005 03:41PM)
Great idea Lee...
Message: Posted by: David43 (Jan 12, 2005 04:30PM)
I only know this from a famous pop video from the early 90's, cant remember what it was, can anyone help, its puzzling me to death!!!

cheers

David
Message: Posted by: Turk (Jan 15, 2005 09:44PM)
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On 2004-06-15 16:14, protik wrote:
"Elephant from Denmark" is a great mental trick. When I perform it for anyone,they just can't belive it. But I've improved this trick. In the normal trick, the first part looks like a math magic (who knows the trick understands what I am saying). But my version is free from it. It's great.
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On 2004-06-15 21:26, Bernard Sim wrote:
Want to share?
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On 2004-06-16 15:40, protik wrote:
No, thanks.

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Protik,

Why even mention it then? What's the point? No one has any basis of being able to evaluate your comments and, to some, you merely come off as either rude, or a braggart, or both.

"Magicians Helping Magicians"? Hmmm.

Mike

P.S. Oh! I get it now. This post of yours was posted within your first week of posting on the Café and helped you get "one closer" to the 50 post minimum required to enter The Banquet Room areas.
Message: Posted by: DoctorAmazo (Jan 20, 2005 09:35AM)
If you get "emu" or "Dominica", you are not phrasing your directions well.

"Think of a country in Europe that begins with that letter." (Sometimes I get "Deutschland". While is isn't really the English name of a European country, you can't really argue that point after the effect is blown apart.)

"Think of a large circus animal..."

There is also the variant where instead of the SECOND letter, you use the LAST letter. It's supposed to drive you to "orange kangaroo". But I've found you can just as easily get "koala". Obviously, specifying "Australian" doesn't help. If they take a LONG time coming up with a color, you can almost bet they picked koala, and it will be either "aqua" or "azure". The shock value when you say "Wait a minute, there aren't any orange kangaroos in Denmark!" is compelling, but this variant has too many pitfalls for my taste.
Message: Posted by: shahriar2403 (Feb 3, 2005 03:12AM)
This is a great trick. whenever I made this trick just everybody become very surprised.but what is the improvement, protik?
Message: Posted by: drkptrs1975 (Feb 9, 2005 05:05PM)
This trick had it's 15 minutes of fame in the Regis and Kathy Lee Show. Regis Though he was on top of the world. I figured it out, right from the Beggining.
Message: Posted by: jamieallan (Feb 13, 2005 03:58PM)
Where can I find the words for this trick?

j
Message: Posted by: glodmagic (Feb 19, 2005 03:27PM)
OK I am getting old and I have lost track of this. Because this is not in the secret sessions area would someone be kind enough to PM me the wording again on this effect.

Thanks
Message: Posted by: RJE (Feb 19, 2005 05:24PM)
You can find this trick on our web site along with a couple of other "mind reading" effects. They get a good response from people checking us out.

Rob
Message: Posted by: Doc Pepper (Mar 3, 2005 11:58AM)
Protik, Not willing to share??.. but then do you really have something other than words??... What's the purpose of your post??... Careful this trick might backfire on you..

My best to you.. Doc
Message: Posted by: raven16 (Jun 15, 2005 11:57AM)
There is a decent version of this effect in Magic for Dummies, which I think is the one everyone is talking about.
Message: Posted by: The Mac (Jul 16, 2005 09:07AM)
Rock musician Bryan Adams used this trick in his video of his song "ON a Day like Today" The whole video is based on this trick with clues appearing everywhere!
check it out! the video is probably on one of the fan sites - check it out!

(I'm a big bryan adams fan by the way)
MAC
Message: Posted by: dr chutney (Jul 18, 2005 06:06AM)
http://au.search.launch.yahoo.com/mf/?type=video&id=2156734

Can't always read the clues, but the song's Ok.
Message: Posted by: MagicB1S (Sep 20, 2005 09:19PM)
If anyone has any old tapes of world greatest Magicians you can see Max Maven perform this trick there. ( The Original Version) Not the Mysterious Version Discussed in the Begining of this post
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Oct 2, 2005 01:14PM)
I have used this stunt for several years and have found the absolute best way to use it. The wording and the tone of voice I find are very important. I have found that if I sound like I am randomly makiking up the trick it works better. Also I don't reveal the whole bit infact I perform it completley different. Let me explain:

I tell them we are going to try what I call "impulse Mentalism" That does two things. They must think fast, and cannot change thier mind. We go throught the choices quickly./ Everytime I say think of a... number, Or a country, etc, I snap my fingers and ask if they have on choice in mind?

I also have a method for the choices. its a number, the math, think of the letter, think of the country, second letter, think of an animal, and think of the color. then All I ask them to do is only concentrate on the color. I have found that if you just guess the color it goes over much better without all the retracing in the mind to figure out where the force was.

Also regarding the color IS GREY. If they chose Dominica the animal will almost always be grey! I ahve done this a thousand times and I have only had bron and black come up a few times. When I revealed the color they aggreed that the animal has grey also............ Any thoughts?

Only a few times have I revealed everything. I will only dothis if I get the color wrong in those rare cases, or if I feel like it going to fry them.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Nov 26, 2005 06:23PM)
I usually use DENMARK last letter K for Kangaroo....

I use this bit in the context about teaching probabilties - in that it won't be 100% all the time (i.e. my out is actually the truth - the effect depends on people's backgrounds, culture etc.)... plus I only perform this on a group as opposed to 1 person as then I get multiple hits and one or two misses doesn't effect the effect!
Message: Posted by: magicgeorge (Dec 2, 2005 07:36AM)
K is an interesting one, if they don't get Kangaroo, chances are the animal will still be Australian (Koala, Kookaburra).
You could have a bit of fun with that:
It's an Australian animal(yes)...That bounces...(positive response say Kangaroo,negative response continue)...well it would if it fell out of the tree (positive response say Koala,negative response continue)and the kookaburra had no wings.

Scott Cram posted an interesting way of forcing the number using coins in an earlier thread on the same topic.

George
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Dec 6, 2005 08:53PM)
Hey - good diea George! Plus, the humour angle is great... (at least I don't have to get an out for WOMBAT)...!
Message: Posted by: Magic Enhancer (Feb 13, 2006 02:30PM)
Good one George!!!
Haas
Message: Posted by: magicman226 (Feb 16, 2006 05:36PM)
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On 2005-01-03 13:10, Lee Darrow wrote:
Use a STATE in the USA. Delaware is the ONLY state that fits the bill as North Dakota starts with an 'N' and South Dakota starts with an 'S.'

Most people in the USA are familiar with the states of the union, many Americans, however, are woefully inept at world geography.

For the method of arriving at the correct number - I use a deck of cards. Most Americans hate doing math, too, in my experience. ;) This is more direct for me, allows me to move into another routine altogether and still has the impact of the original in the eyes of the audience without the heightened probability of someone having a problem with the math.

Lee Darrow, C.H.
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Another way is to just say a country in europe. I learned the trick when I was maybe 9 or 10 on the internet. Someone later tried it on me, and I messed them up. They told me pick a country that starts with D, and I say Djibouti. I think there are gray elephants in Djibouti.
Message: Posted by: Cheety (Aug 23, 2006 01:36PM)
Wat I do is, end with kangaroo and orage, I tell them to pick a fruit, so if they pick koala it would be apple