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Topic: Timing help
Message: Posted by: dfeder (Aug 10, 2004 09:01AM)
I was chatting with several magi this past weekend and we could not agree - can timing be taught/learned or is it something that someone is born with? If it can be taught - what are some good sources for instruction. I've read Fitzkee but didn't really see anything concrete.

Dov
Message: Posted by: weepinwil (Aug 11, 2004 07:34AM)
I believe timing in magic is like timing in other arts such as dancing, singing, etc. Some have a larger portion of natural ability and others learn the ability in practice. I believe everyone has some minor natural talent even though the term "two left feet" in dancing disagrees with that assumption. In almost every art, natural timing makes the difference between good and great in my opinion. The great golfers, for instance, have some natural talents that others do not possess. Through practice they sharpen these natural skills and rise above what the average person can do.
Message: Posted by: Carrie Sue (Jan 29, 2005 08:27PM)
Well said, Weepinwil.

CSR
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Feb 20, 2005 08:50PM)
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On 2004-08-10 10:01, dfeder wrote:
I was chatting with several magi this past weekend and we could not agree - can timing be taught/learned or is it something that someone is born with? If it can be taught - what are some good sources for instruction. I've read Fitzkee but didn't really see anything concrete.

Dov
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Yes!

Timing is built into many people. However, it also can be taught. Tony Clark and I are old Tony Slydini students two decades apart. We would both be quick to tell you that timing was everything to Slydini. We even rehearsed with a metronome. (So did he!)

I personally was somewhat embarrassed about it at first because I had been a professional recording studio musician and stage performer and, perhaps, already enjoyed more financial success in the entertainment industry than my had teacher. I had no problem staying on beat with other musicians I could see but definitely not hear. But this is precisely why you go to the master for lessons. It gave me control over my act like I had never known before. Every gesture has a timed beat. Just as in music, sometimes the most dynamic notes are rests!

A metronome is a good tool. Find your speed and use it. Mine is 66. Yours may be different. But you have one!

Good Luck!

Bob
Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: STFC (Mar 5, 2005 02:07AM)
To a degree, yes. However, Jay Sankey teaches some very valuable timing lessons.
Message: Posted by: Brad Lancaster (Mar 10, 2005 11:04PM)
Timing for a magic effect or sleight can be learned. However, for each performer timing is a bit different. It has a lot to do with your personal presentational style. For the beginner, timing can only be developed through performance and careful editing and then asking important questions such as, "was I talking fast, were my movements awkward or too jerky, did I seem relaxed, etc."

Once you perfect your style, the timing will follow.
Message: Posted by: Paul D (May 8, 2005 06:52PM)
Yes I agree with Brad timing comes with style. I match my words with actions and actions with misdirection.