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Topic: Morgan's Liquid Metal DVD
Message: Posted by: mgcoolb (Aug 17, 2004 02:19PM)
When Morgan first told me he was releasing his routine on DVD, I was shocked and at the same time very happy to hear the news. There are a lot of skeptics in the magic community, because there is a lot of metal bending material out there. Yes, I agree, there IS a lot of metal bending material out there. And not all of it is absolutely the same. Everyone has a different handling and a different style and different subtleties. Perhaps the amount of moves you will learn on Morgan’s video is not quite as large as the amount of moves you will learn on Banachek’s DVDs and Videos or Patrick Kuff’s DVD, but what you will learn is a solid routine with incredible misdirection that even the person too afraid of performing metal bending will be able to pick up within a month (if one practices enough.)
That being said, Morgan’s routine is one of the most amazing routines I have ever seen in my entire life. It has fried EVERYONE that has ever seen it. In this routine, the tines bend, the fork itself bends 2 times, and there is a very gutsy corkscrew bend that will BLEW me away. The beauty of Morgan’s routine is that he shows us that there is nothing to be scared about when doing metal bending.
What you will learn on this DVD:
Tine bend.
3-tine bend (My favorite phase of the routine)
Corkscrew bend (Morgan subtlety makes this quite different from Banachek’s)
In your face bend (the spectator basically sees the fork MELT right in front of their face)
L-shape bend (INCREDIBLE as well)
Fork you Fork (This you just have to see!!! Great way to handle hecklers.)
Morgan’s Key Bend (This is quite hard, but NOT impossible…ladies and gents, forget your gimmicks at home!)
Corkscrew Tine Bend (This is an awesome little extra you could add onto your routine that will FRY your audience even further.)

Now, as far as the material itself, it is VERY good that this is a DVD and not a video, because most magicians will want to skip. There is around 25 minutes of live performance footage. Overkill perhaps, but a very useful tool for those of us that are afraid of metal bending – this actually shows us different situations and how to deal with them as well as proving this can be done anywhere anytime without being busted.
Sometimes, less is more…but Morgan, as you will see for yourself, does not follow this rule. He teaches the routine 3 times! Yes, you might wonder why someone would teach it 3 times. Well, I guess he didn’t want people walking away from the video still not having understood everything. The nice thing is, if you DID understand everything, that’s why this is a DVD, so all you have to do is press the forward button and you’re set. There is even a section in the DVD where you can follow along. This section is called, “grab a fork and follow along.”
As far as the quality of the video goes, I would rate it 8 out 10 and the editing and graphics I would rate a very easy 11 out of 10. The routine itself I can’t even rate, it’s just WAY too good to be rated, but I guess if I was to rate it, I’d say 100 out of 10. One of the most amazing routines I have ever seen in magic!
Overall, I would HIGHLY recommend this video to anyone, whether you already do metal bending or not. I do not recommend this video over Banachek’s, since that is what a lot of people have been asking. However, I would not recommend Banachek’s video over Morgan’s as well. They are both great, but Morgan’s routine is a very twisted one fork routine that you will be able to perform within a month if not even less (especially if you already are familiar with metal bending.)
Overall, I HIGHLY Recommend this!
Message: Posted by: B_ball2424 (Aug 17, 2004 04:50PM)
Thanks for writing this review, is this a good video for a beginner in metal bending or I should start somewhere else ?
Message: Posted by: Tor Egil (Aug 17, 2004 08:03PM)
I don't have Morgans DVD so I cant say if its good for you or not.

Banachek's DVD is something I can recomend. He not only teaches you the moves, but the subtleties and the pshycoligi behind it. He explaines to you why it works.

Almost all of the bends taught on that DVD is impromptu. They requaire no gimmicks.

Go with the BAnacheck DVD.
Message: Posted by: Daegs (Aug 18, 2004 12:44AM)
Mattisdx: From one lennart green fan to another(which has nothing to do with), let me tell you this is the real deal.


Morgan has an excellent routine that many have been waiting for a long time to come out, and it will definatly be good material, because the routine itself is really good.
Message: Posted by: mattisdx (Aug 18, 2004 08:02PM)
Alright, I'll buy it because of the Lennart reference :D
Message: Posted by: Jaybs (Aug 18, 2004 09:43PM)
I've also been looking into this DVD. I'll probably purchase both Banachek's and Morgan's because it's always good to have other people's insights on a certain subject of magic. Maybe later, I'll pick up Kuff's since I've been told that it is a very well put-together metal bending DVD as well.
Message: Posted by: redstreak (Aug 19, 2004 12:16AM)
I may very well buy this. Some of it looks pretty good.
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Aug 19, 2004 07:05AM)
Has anyone contacted penguin to see when this will be available?
Message: Posted by: the74rock (Aug 19, 2004 09:19AM)
Why get this dvd?? morgan took some of the material from the banachek dvd. just get the BANACHEK dvd phychokinetic silverware.
Message: Posted by: Banachek (Aug 19, 2004 11:08AM)
Just to make this clear, I gave Morgan permission to use and show a couple of my bends so long as he gave reference. I think it is just two of my bends that are on the DVD.
Message: Posted by: atrudo (Aug 19, 2004 01:34PM)
The DVD looks very good. Combining the new moves with Banachek's bends should create a very good routine.
Message: Posted by: Svengali (Aug 19, 2004 08:11PM)
Morgan teach at least six new bends!
Think about it....
Message: Posted by: Dove84 (Aug 20, 2004 06:55AM)
Svengali, I'm a little confused by your post. Are you saying Morgan teaches 6 new bends on his DVD? Or are you requesting that he teach 6 new bends?
Message: Posted by: Tor Egil (Aug 20, 2004 07:14AM)
What he means is, Morgan teaches 6 new bends.
Message: Posted by: in flames (Aug 20, 2004 12:53PM)
I love Penguin but the "I HIGHLY Recommend this!" line is in most of the products discribed?
Message: Posted by: mgcoolb (Aug 21, 2004 04:23AM)
Well I don't highly recommend everything Penguin has...in fact, I do think some of the stuff they carry is crap, I just really did get a beta of this dvd...long story how that happened, and this thing I can honestly recommend. I'm someone that has NO GUTS to perform metal bending but since I seen Morgan's video I been doing a few bends...his 3 tine bend is KILLER!
Message: Posted by: niva (Aug 21, 2004 06:45AM)
Thanks for the great review.
Message: Posted by: in flames (Aug 21, 2004 03:03PM)
Yes, thank you.
Message: Posted by: Boat (Sep 2, 2004 10:16PM)
Do you think I can get chicks with the metal bending?
Message: Posted by: Sean W. Burke (Sep 2, 2004 10:33PM)
[quote]
On 2004-09-02 23:16, Boat wrote:

Do you think I can get chicks with the metal bending?
[/quote]

If you are serious then the answer is no.
Message: Posted by: niva (Sep 3, 2004 02:32AM)
Why don't you try KFC?
Message: Posted by: Alym Amlani (Sep 3, 2004 02:54AM)
[quote]
On 2004-09-03 03:32, niva wrote:
Why don't you try KFC?
[/quote]

LOL!!! No forks to be found in KFC...
Message: Posted by: tropicalpenguin (Sep 3, 2004 06:12PM)
Heh

Seriously, though, What kind of stuff is new in this video and, judging from the short preview we have, can a beginer pick it up and learn to bend metal?
Message: Posted by: Tiki (Sep 5, 2004 12:25AM)
Has anybody seen Morgan's Closer?

http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=905

It is a signed coin bend routine - instant download from Penguin. I am always suspect of reviews that include any reference to "my parents," but the demo video looks interesting.

Cheers,

Tiki
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Sep 6, 2004 03:22PM)
Very interesting....I only do Osterlind's spoon bend but this looks pretty good.

Thanks MGCool...how long did it take you to get the first bend down?

PS: DVD available in 14 days from Penguin.
Message: Posted by: redstreak (Sep 6, 2004 07:58PM)
I got an email saying that they shipped the DVD a week ago, but the website says that it isn't available yet...
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Sep 6, 2004 09:19PM)
Yeah, I got that too, but I think that's just part of their automated system.
Message: Posted by: fib (Sep 7, 2004 11:31PM)
Are there pointers on misdirection?
fib
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Sep 8, 2004 05:01PM)
Got an email saying it may break all DVD sales records over at Penguin. Maxwell is going to watch him live Thursday performing this effect.

Sure does have my curiosity piqued. May have to break down and get it with my show money:)

The email also said there are two ungimmicked forks you use, one to give out
as a souvenier. Can be performed surrounded and just a few moments of preshow work required.
Message: Posted by: redstreak (Sep 8, 2004 11:15PM)
I'll post a review as soon as I get it.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Sep 9, 2004 01:17AM)
Thanks Redstreak!
Message: Posted by: niva (Sep 9, 2004 06:33AM)
Is this actually by Magic Makers or Penguin?
Message: Posted by: EricClark (Sep 9, 2004 11:29AM)
[quote]
On 2004-09-03 03:54, alym wrote:
[quote]
On 2004-09-03 03:32, niva wrote:
Why don't you try KFC?
[/quote]

LOL!!! No forks to be found in KFC...
[/quote]

Maybe a new spork bending routine is needed!
Message: Posted by: Jaymz023 (Sep 9, 2004 12:57PM)
[quote]
On 2004-09-09 07:33, niva wrote:
Is this actually by Magic Makers or Penguin?
[/quote]

It is going to be sold exclusively through Penguin Magic.
Message: Posted by: niva (Sep 10, 2004 01:07AM)
Thanks. I zoomed on the front cover and I could clearly see it is a Penguin product. Thanks again.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Sep 14, 2004 05:15AM)
One more day to go:)
Message: Posted by: Newb2 (Sep 16, 2004 08:04PM)
Pretty sure it's out now and people have received their DVD. Anyone have a review?
Message: Posted by: redstreak (Sep 17, 2004 12:03AM)
Still haven't gotten it.
Message: Posted by: redstreak (Sep 17, 2004 10:44PM)
I got it today. First of all, most of the mends on the DVD are nothing new, but there are a couple things, especially the multiple tine bend that are new.

That being said, he style and way that he puts them together is different. In his rountine, one fork bends then breaks, and another one bends, twists, the tines bend twice, and it bends again. It ends up as one heck of a souveneir. The bends really hit you, it's a great routine.

Overall, it's a great DVD and I liked it. Recomended.
Message: Posted by: redstreak (Sep 19, 2004 09:34PM)
After watching it again and practicing it more, and am very happy with the routine. I'm doing it almost the same way that he does, except I added the bend from the Mindbender DVD. I just performed it for a few friends and it went VERY well. This is the only routine (I could be wrong!) that I have seen in which the fork twists inside the spectator's hand without any switches.

(People might be surprised and/or disaproving of me doing the routine for people only a few days after getting it. I was already familiar with most of the moves so all I had to practice was stringing them together.)

The key bend is pretty good, but very hard.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan P. (Sep 20, 2004 02:27AM)
Is his "closer" included in the DVD? I am waiting for my preordered one to arrive, but I wanted to stop wondering. Thanks,
Jonathan.
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Sep 20, 2004 07:24AM)
I am totally new to metal bending of any kind. The dvd is very well done. The menus work great and the sections are divided up nicely. Morgan does a great job teaching and explaining the method and provides a long performance section so you can see how he handles real world situations. The routine is very strong and the misdirection is well covered. I was very impressed .
Message: Posted by: Zackary (Sep 20, 2004 06:13PM)
So do you give anything out for a souvnire? Is the fork you give to them hard to make?(switch involved?)
Thanks,
Zack
Message: Posted by: Mauricio Jaramillo (Sep 20, 2004 06:32PM)
Just watched it today, excellent routine, I'll be working on perfecting this for quite a while. To answer your question, yes, you do give them the severely twisted fork as a souvenir. There is no switch involve, and he teaches some bonus effects such as a gimmickless key bend (and break), a funny way to deal with hecklers, and a pretty cool corkscrew-tine bend. I'll see about writing a review sometime soon.
Message: Posted by: Zackary (Sep 20, 2004 06:38PM)
Thank you for your reply. I'll definately be getting this one!
Zack
Message: Posted by: Mauricio Jaramillo (Sep 20, 2004 07:13PM)
No problem, I'm sure you'll be more than satisfied with it.
Message: Posted by: Zackary (Sep 20, 2004 07:38PM)
I just ordered it and will try to post a review! I can't wait! I would go ahead and ask you how it works but I have no way to prove I got it so I'll just wait and talk to you later about it.
Later,
Zack
Message: Posted by: in flames (Sep 20, 2004 07:55PM)
[quote]
On 2004-09-20 20:38, Zackary wrote:
I just ordered it and will try to post a review! I can't wait! I would go ahead and ask you how it works but I have no way to prove I got it so I'll just wait and talk to you later about it.
Later,
Zack
[/quote]
Why don't you just go to the Penguin only forums and ask? I'm sure there are posts there to answer your question.
Message: Posted by: Daegs (Sep 21, 2004 12:52AM)
[quote]I would go ahead and ask you how it works[/quote]

I didn't want to give out the secret, but since you asked, here is the super duper metal bending secret:
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You bend it when they aren't looking!

No, seriously!

Enjoy!
Message: Posted by: Zackary (Sep 21, 2004 06:44AM)
At the top where it says my magic,liquid metal forum hasn't become available yet.I also ordered sly silks and the instructional movie hasn't come yet.Maybe you don't get it until you gat your order. Oh well, I'll wait a little longer then I will email them about it.
Zack
Message: Posted by: Mauricio Jaramillo (Sep 21, 2004 09:59AM)
[quote]
You bend it when they aren't looking!
[/quote]

He's right, no use getting the DVD now, haha.

Zachary, you should get the P.O. section as soon as it ships. So since you ordered last night, you won't have the forum until around noon -later afternoon today.

If it still doesn't show up, e-mail or call their customer service. They're very helpful and will make sure you get your P.O. forum there.

Now, I would suggest you go to Wal-Mart and buy a lot of Dominion forks, since you're going to be destroying so many with practice and performances. They sell around 6 for a buck, so it's a good deal and they bend easily.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan P. (Sep 21, 2004 04:21PM)
I got it this morning and it looks very nice. If you already own some Banachek or Osterlind's stuff, you'llbe able to get this routine smooth for you. It is very nice, and the fork (a real normal fork) looks so weird at the end that it makes (as he says on the DVD, and he's not lying) the "ultimate" souvenir (yes, I know, "ultimate" is not a good word... Anyway, this souvenir is darn good :) )
I expect having a lot of fun.

Jonathan.
Message: Posted by: enigmatic aura (Sep 21, 2004 04:31PM)
How much of Morgan's liquid metal differs from Banachek's PK silverware? Are the misdirections any more different, or are they essentially the same? It just seems to me that the demo reveals a different atmosphere of people performed to rather than the techniques involved. What's your take on this?

Lance
Message: Posted by: Boat (Sep 21, 2004 09:20PM)
My question is if you do this in a restaurant, or a house party, how do you get away with bending their forks. I would think the restaurant or people throwing the party would be awfully mad no matter how great the routine.
Message: Posted by: Dove84 (Sep 21, 2004 09:44PM)
Bring your own forks. If someone then requests you to use their forks it's no problem. That's why you should practice with a wide variety of forks so you'll be able to do something no matter what's given to you.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan P. (Sep 22, 2004 06:27AM)
Lance,
The material differs from Banachek's and Osterlind's in some ways.

-The environment: Morgan teaches you a routine to be performed surrounded in a less formal situation than the others (I wonder how good this routine would play at tables, Please, tell me, all of you guys, what you think about doing this routine in table-hopping.) It is more, "rock'n'roll" (I don't know what else to say) than the standerd "lot of concentration" mentalism routines.

- The techniques itselves: you'll learn to do a multiple tines bend, an impromptu twist in the hand of the spectator, a very nice visual melting effect that the spectator makes to happen, and, finally, you end with a fork that looks like the one ont he cober of the Banacher PK silverware, i.e. wqith multiple bends in it, twisted and weird, that you can leave to the spec.

Really, you'll get something new.

PS Even a tine corkscrew twist (bonus.)
Message: Posted by: redstreak (Sep 22, 2004 08:09PM)
To clear a few things up. If you do his exact routine, you use two forks (both are shown, you down't have to switch them or anything) and one has to be prepared a little (for the break).

I don't so that part so I start with one completely normal fork. You can have them initial it and check for the mark at any point in the routine. When I saw the video, I saw the totally messed-up fork and thought, "that's just promo". But it isn't. You start with a normal, signed, fork, and end looking like that.
Message: Posted by: Jaymz023 (Sep 23, 2004 09:05AM)
You hit it on the nail redstreak! You start with one fork and end with the same fork all twisted up. I also use only the 2nd part of the routine-- Sometimes I use just the break and skip the corkscrew and move on to the 2nd part of the routine. I also added in the specator signing the fork- I did that because I had people thinking I was swithcing the fork-boy were they shocked when they saw their signature after the fork bent every time.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan P. (Sep 23, 2004 09:22AM)
Hey, you, European fork benders (like me :) ), did you find "the perfect fork" to buy? Let me know, I am making serious researches in order to find the "ideal" one.

Thanks for imputs.

Jonathan.
Message: Posted by: enigmatic aura (Sep 24, 2004 12:14PM)
Thanks Jonathan for clearing things up.
Message: Posted by: Ferry H.P. (Sep 28, 2004 04:32AM)
Jonathan, have you found the perfect fork yet?
Before I buy the DVD, I want to know if the best forks for this effect are easy to find in Belgium.
Message: Posted by: ScottLeavitt (Sep 28, 2004 06:25PM)
Have to admit, favorite part of DVD is when one of the girls he was performing on the street kept asking him if he was one of T.H.E.M. :hysteric:
Message: Posted by: Mauricio Jaramillo (Sep 28, 2004 06:42PM)
[quote]
On 2004-09-28 19:25, ScottLeavitt wrote:
Have to admit, favorite part of DVD is when one of the girls he was performing on the street kept asking him if he was one of T.H.E.M. :hysteric:
[/quote]

hahaha, I noticed that too, pretty strange. What the hell does that lady who walks by right after say? It interrupted the routine for a few seconds and I couldn't tell what she was inquiring about. It was kind of odd.

If anybody needs a link for fork suppliers, just PM me.
Message: Posted by: tdowell (Sep 30, 2004 01:01AM)
I hate this. I mean really hate it.

I spent $30 for someone to tell me how to bend a fork, then added another $10 destroying a bunch and leaving my hands burning like h*ll. $40 down the drain **FLUSH**

One bend in particular, the "corkscrew" is a nightmare to perform smoothly and without extreme pain to your mitts.

This isn't for everyone. If I'm going to devote hundreds of hours of practice and a permanent case of arthritis to an effect its going to have to be something more amazing than this.
Message: Posted by: Mauricio Jaramillo (Sep 30, 2004 02:25AM)
Tdowell, your opinion is definitely fine, but I do feel that you're exaggerating a little. Just like with any other routine, it'll require practice as you said, and the first few days/weeks will require that you develop certain muscles in your hands. This happens with many card and coin effects as well.

The corkscrew is really quite simple and just needs to be practiced, it definitely won't kill your hands. If it does, I suggest you reanalyze your technique to make sure you're doing it correctly. He teaches you how to do the corkscrew on the spot with the aid of the other visual bend, so you should keep giving it a try. You watched the demo (I hope) and saw how the fork ends up and the description says that a fork breaks and twists, so you knew this was going to involve some intense bending, misdirection, and a lot of cheap silverware purchases.

Now, as the end of your post says, perhaps you didn't find this amazing. Fair enough. I disagree and specs love this, but the effect really depends on the performer and if it's not your style, I understand. Don't think I'm bashing your opinion by the way, I like to see a differing point of view. I just don't want people who are interested in this to be scared off that easily when there's a strong routine to learn. The muscles will develop :)
Message: Posted by: Jonathan P. (Sep 30, 2004 05:45AM)
Ferry H.P. (and others!);
I did find a "perfect fork" here in belgium but it is quite expensive (1€/pce). So I am looking for alternatives in all the "penny shops" around my house and big stores. I try to get in touch with the suppliers of the fork I found in order to buy them in large quatities, for cheap.
If you are interested, we could do this together (if we order more, we'll pay cheaper)
PM me.
Jonathan.
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Sep 30, 2004 06:45PM)
This is the classic case of knowing what to expect before you buy the dvd/trick. We as magicians aren't going to be impressed by the trick or the method if we already know we are buying a trick on fork bending. Likewise, spectators will hardly be impressed if you say "watch as I mysteriously bend this fork 4 times." The secret to all good magic is the surprise factor. If someone walks up to you with a fork and mutilates it with their "mind" any spectator will be stunned because they didn't know what to expect going in. So every phase is a surprise to them. It just makes sense.

I have liquid metal and have never done metal bending. I practiced for one night until my hands hurt. Two days later I went back to the trick and found the corkscrew to come much much easier. It really surprised me.

I think this trick is a winner and those who know me know that I don't give good reviews very often.
Message: Posted by: eebie376 (Oct 1, 2004 07:43PM)
My personal favorite part was when he was performing outside of some club I guess and he did the fork break. One guy thought he was being slick and ran over and picked the piece up, and when he was done examining it, snuck over and threw it back on the ground with a loud "TING-TA-TING"! The performances were really funny at times, and I think Morgan handled everyone pretty expertly.

The rest of the DVD is very good. The corkscrew bend, I agree, is a pain to do as fast as Morgan does in the performances. It's going to definitely take some practice, but look at that **** fork by the end of the routine! Lol. So worth it.

Definitely worth 30 bucks. Anyone care to share the Easter Eggs they found? I found Morgan and Mikala's World Magic Seminar performance by scrolling my mouse around on the Main Menu. What did you find?

Ian

P.s.- Just watching Morgan do the Key Bend stuns me. He does that move pretty dang effortlessly and casually. I spent some time trying to do it with some of these (uncut) keys I use in bending routines. Finally, I did the move very obviously (trying not to give away what the move is, here) and put a lot of "umph" into it. The key snapped in two and cut my thumb :). It's a start, anyway.

P.p.s.- The fork you fork is definitely a winner. I can see myself using that, and often.
Message: Posted by: ScottLeavitt (Oct 1, 2004 07:52PM)
...blood from a key...you may have something there!
:evilgrin:
Message: Posted by: redstreak (Oct 5, 2004 08:46PM)
Tdowell, it's not that bad. When I first tried it, I was a little dissapointed, but within a few days, I was doing the routine perfectly. I'm only 14 and don't have big muscles or anything, but I could do it all after less than a week.

You spent $10 on forks? How many did you buy?
Message: Posted by: mindcontroller (Oct 15, 2004 01:09AM)
Having just watched this DVD I was dissapointed. In my opinion and it is just my opinion the routine was poor, his patter was annoying and after five mins of watching the different demonstrations I got fed up of hearing him repeatedly saying "if you will" all the blooming time! He talks better in the explanations and should spend more time on his performance patter instead of saying "if you will" every other sentence, but I suppose your buying the DVD to learn his routine rather than his patter so finding him annoying really is just my personal opinion.

When I first saw Banachecks silverware demonstration, I was blown away as I was seeing Metal Bending, I saw a Tine bending, I saw handles on forks bending! Of course having watched the explanations with Banachek you not only get the techniques but the subtleties too, and this video of Banacheks Silverware routines has served me hundreds of times, and of course Banachek is the ONLY man who fooled the scientists with his metal bending, and he did this with techniques and subtleties, you cant bend metal without subtleties, its boring!!!!

Morgans tine bend was appaling, he simply shook the fork and "Oh theres a bend in the tine now", all the wonderful subtleties from Banachek were lost, no bending, it was just straight, then bent, no visual bending.

His putting in the twist was well thought out, but I think if I recall this was covered by Kuffs so nothing new there really!

His "fork you" bend was amusing and will be used by myself, but the twisted tine Morgan? Well even after years of metal bending, I tried to do this with some cheap thin forks and stuggled, I'm not suprised Morgan is not using it yet either, I don't think anyone ever will, as it would be almost impossible to do in performance unless you have hands like shovels and skin as thick as bricks.

The graphics were fun on the dvd, I had a faulty menu on my DVD though! I've not watched the explanations in full as yet, having skipped the bits I already knew, but the additional tine bends were good, and can be incorporated into anyone elses routine and make the fork just that bit more wild as a give away for people to remember you by.

I have this, Banachecks Silverware, Kuffs Metal bending tape, Osterlind series and Mindbender, and a Guy Bavli tape as well as something recent from Byrds and Coates, if I had to buy them all again, it would be in this order.

I'm in the process of getting Ian Rowlands lecture notes which show some kind of metal bending as Ian is himself a fellow cutlery destroyer LOL but never seen a performance, has anyone seen Ian perform his routine? I'd be interested in a reveiew on that or his lecture video which after submitting this I will search for on here, not sure if he has got cutlery bending demonstrations on the vid though, but will check it out anyway, as he is an all round excellent performer and everything he does is very good value for money and he knows his craft well!

My Order List for metal bending would be if I had to buy them all again:
1 Banacheks for a full act and subtleties.
2 Kuffs for additional bending techniques and ideas including plastic cutlery
3 Guy Bavli additional bending techniques and ideas
4 Morgans for the additional tine bend techniques and "fork you".
5 Richard Osterlinds spoon bends & spikes in his DVD set.
6 Mindbender, well I wouldnt buy it again!
7 Byrd & Coates Forced reality (I think its called this) gives a basic bend that can be used in many ways! Very boring DVD as same principle throughout using gimicks.

Again just my humble opinion!
Message: Posted by: smartie_28 (Jun 21, 2005 05:34PM)
I think that Morgan's routine is great, but I have PK Silverware and love it as well.
Message: Posted by: SamChak (Oct 15, 2005 06:49AM)
Learn Morgan's Silverware Bending routines in Liquid Metal and add into your repertory.