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Topic: Bottle for Lonnie Chevrie coin in bottle
Message: Posted by: Mike Powers (Nov 30, 2004 08:42PM)
Just received the Lonnie Chevrie DVD's. These are EXCELLENT items. Highly recommended. Does anyone know what type of bottle he uses for his coin in bottle routine?

The requirement is that the coin be able to stay in the neck of the bottle and be covered by the screw on cap.

It turns out that Mr. Chevrie invented the technique of having the coin already in the neck covered by the cap and also that of using tweezers to visibly pull the coin out.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Nov 30, 2004 09:10PM)
Itís one of those little make-up bottles. Tough to find.

Oh, and yes itís true that he invented the hidden coin thing.

Koz
Message: Posted by: Turk (Nov 30, 2004 10:20PM)
Is Lonnie's version using an ungimmicked coin or a fo**ing coin? I've been using a fo**ing coin inside a plastic champagne "cork" (already loaded inside a champagne bottle) for years. I'd love to be able to do the effect using an ungimmicked coin--even if it means searching for the bottle Lonnie is using.

Here's hoping Lonnie's version uses an ungimmicked coin.

Thanks for any info.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Nov 30, 2004 10:39PM)
Gimmicked.

Koz
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Dec 7, 2004 12:11PM)
Hiding the f coin in a cork is very olde been around before Bill O'REilly. :kermit:
Message: Posted by: MagicSteve84 (Dec 7, 2004 01:11PM)
What kind of little make-up bottle?

Could you be more specific Ted? I love the routine and would like to get the bottle. Maybe you could provide use with brand and the type of make-up....or better yet, what store it can be found in?
Message: Posted by: Daren (Dec 7, 2004 02:28PM)
Does anyone know if you can get a folded 10p coin but with the three pieces as in Lonnie's version.
Message: Posted by: paulajayne (Dec 7, 2004 02:43PM)
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On 2004-12-07 15:28, Daren wrote:
Does anyone know if you can get a folded 10p coin but with the three pieces as in lonnie's version.
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Hi

Try Bob Swadling - try a google.

Paula
Message: Posted by: hillk (Dec 7, 2004 02:47PM)
Magic steve,

The bottle is a womens make-up bottle found in K-mart, Walmart or anywhere there is makeup. I use one and I use tweezers to get the coin out and do the switch right off the tweezers with a thumb palm. I put a match inside and tell the spectator it took all the air out of the bottle causing a vacuum and I put two asprin in there and tell them those are for their headache when they try to figure out the trick. Inside the lid there is a plastic shell that I cut a hole in and the coin fits in there perfect which puts it in the neck automatically.

Kevin
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Dec 7, 2004 03:23PM)
That sounds like John Bannon's effect. I like it too. How does Lonnie's compare to this? Or for the magic historians, who did it first?

My bottle was a Revlon bottle. Sorta squarish, with a blue cap and a gold band around the outside. I don't remember what was inside the bottle. Some sort of foundation makeup I believe.

I too had to cut out the insert inside the cap to make room for the coin. I could remove the cap and dump out the contents and the coin would stay put. Replacing the cap would position the coin properly, but it wouldn't stick in the neck (a good thing) until I dislodged it during the trick.

I haven't done this in a long time. Maybe I'll have to get it out and play with it some more, after a visit to the dentist for supplies.
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Dec 7, 2004 05:26PM)
I believe that Lonnie was the originator.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Dec 7, 2004 11:21PM)
Lonnie was the originator. There used to be some really neat sample Scope bottles that worked great for this. It does use a gaffed coin.

There was a discussion about this in the coin section.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Dec 7, 2004 11:34PM)
Lonnie showed it to Kohler who showed it to Bannon who published it.
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Dec 8, 2004 09:08AM)
The Bannon routine is called Vacuum Packed found on his video Impossibilia and he uses a make-up botttle by Max Factor called Whipped Cream, found anywhere make up is sold. I found a similar type in the cheap Dollar stores.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Dec 8, 2004 12:06PM)
Yes, but it's the WRONG BOTTLE! The bottle Lonnie uses has a cap that is actually shallower than the length of the coin. The bottle itself hides the rest of the coin. Also, to use the Chevrie bottle, you have to make your own coin. The commercial ones won't fit! Unless Lonnie has had some made special for the routine.

There's the rub!
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Dec 8, 2004 12:39PM)
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On 2004-12-08 13:06, Bill Palmer wrote:
Yes, but it's the WRONG BOTTLE! The bottle Lonnie uses has a cap that is actually shallower than the length of the coin. The bottle itself hides the rest of the coin. Also, to use the Chevrie bottle, you have to make your own coin. The commercial ones won't fit! Unless Lonnie has had some made special for the routine.

There's the rub!


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Bill's Rub is all true.
Message: Posted by: Bob Kohler (Dec 10, 2004 10:00AM)
For the record, Johnny Ace Palmer showed it to Seth Kramer and me many years ago. I showed it to Bannon...the rest is history. My mistake.

The bottle I have was a Scope mouthwash sample. Perfect for the routine. I believe this is the one Lonnie used.

I haven't seen the DVD's yet, but Lonnie sent me a tape of the material a few years ago and it was packed with brilliant ideas...
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Dec 16, 2004 09:25AM)
How are these Chevire DVDs? Is there anything else on them that makes it worth the cash?
koz
Message: Posted by: niva (Jan 5, 2005 11:19AM)
So how are we supposed to find the right bottle? I was going to buy this DVD mainly for this effect.

I found this bottle acccording to Mr Kohler's words. Scroll to the bottom of the page. Is that the one?

http://unimaxsupply.com/md/1mouthwashes.htm
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Jan 5, 2005 12:17PM)
Is it glass?
koz
Message: Posted by: niva (Jan 5, 2005 03:17PM)
Looks more like plastic from the pic.
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Jan 5, 2005 03:40PM)
It's a cosmetic bottle. And trust me all the stuff on this DVD rocks! workers

koz
Message: Posted by: niva (Jan 6, 2005 03:21AM)
So it's not the one on the site, right?
Message: Posted by: bdekolta (Jan 8, 2005 01:27AM)
I showed and gave Lonnie the Scope bottle in the early 80's. He added the tweezers and made the routine practical for everyday use. I used the same quarter I've always used. Lonnie broke his bottle accidentally. Later he found another mouthwash bottle that worked for him - Signal I believe.

The Signal bottle has a larger lid than the Scope bottles but works just fine. In both cases the lid is shallower than the coin and extremely deceptive. There are other properties of the mouthwash bottle that give it advantages over the makeup bottles when performing.

Our bottles are glass but you can't find them anymore. I have enough stashed bottles to keep me supplied for quite some time. There are other bottles that will work. You just have to experiment. I distinctly remember sitting with Charles McFarland at an airport testing all the different little liquor bottles we could find. The all had issues. But we had a good time since we had to empty them first.<g>

Shortly after that I found the Scope bottle and it worked perfectly. Gathered all I could and went from there.

There are some other little things that make the effect work day in and day out but you'll discover them as you work with the routine.

So the timeline on the effect is around 1984-85 for the discovery with the Scope bottle. Lonnie added the tweezers about a week after I showed him my routine.

As far as Lonnies DVD's are concerned the are full of practical material you will actually use. Get them and find the working material some of us have had access to for all these years. You won't be sorry.

~ Dan
Message: Posted by: Richard Evans (Apr 5, 2005 05:57PM)
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On 2004-12-07 15:28, Daren wrote:
Does anyone know if you can get a folded 10p coin but with the three pieces as in Lonnie's version.
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I'm a bit late in on this thread. However, a good place to find gimmicked sterling coins is Peter Crush at Presto Magic. They may not be on the website, but if you e-mail Peter, he'll tell you if they're making them:

http://www.zyworld.com/coinpurse/Prestomain.htm

Good luck.

Richard
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Apr 5, 2005 08:26PM)
http://www.LanceDelong.com
Message: Posted by: Richard Evans (Apr 6, 2005 08:21AM)
Just browsing and found this:

http://cards4magic.co.uk/acatalog/Fake_British_Coins.html

There are single- and double-folding 10p coins. I have used this website in the past (they have an excellent selection of different decks of cards) and can highly recommend them.

Richard