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Ron Crumley
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On 2003-10-14 21:13, grostami wrote:
Thanks for the tip zauber. I placed my order today.

Greg


Greg,

Since I'm in the market for either a Thought Transmitter or The Mind Reading Wallet, I was VERY interested in your post because you said (above) that you were placing an order for The Mind Reading Wallet, in spite of having just written an excellent review on the workings of the TT!

So, if it's true that you now own both the TT and the MRW, which in your opinion is best, and why?

Appreciate your feedback Greg.

Thanks - Ron
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On 2003-09-21 18:41, Neoglobin wrote:
I see this as a pretty nonsense trick. I mean, write down a number, put it in the wallet, and I will know it. Why put it in the wallet? why not let the spectator hold it?


You can have the spectator hold it. Put rubberbands around it, lock it in a box, place under a bed or whatever.

I can tell that you don't own one. There are lots of reasoning one can use to justify why the spectator needs to jot down their thought of card, number or whatever. PROOF is one prime example. Patter: "Many times people will changed their minds or flat out deny it just to mess me up. So I need you to jot it down as proof."

It is a powerful tool to work in conjunction with any trick where you need to retrieve info.
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Can I echo the plaudits for the great routine idea Greg. Turns two good effects into 1 brilliant one.
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Indy Ron, I read your question and hope this reaches you in time. Read my revue on the "mindreader Wallet" Posted today-10-22-03
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Gerry
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I long ago bought a thought transmitter, and I have to admit, that I think that it's very clever, and if performed properly laypeople should not figure out how it's done...That said, I still don't recommend it. For one reason:

It looks like a magician's gimmick.

Who carries anything that looks like this thing?

If the TT had been built into a mead notebook, it would be worth 3x the cost.

Great idea, but as is, however, it's a funny-looking notebook thingy.


My $.02
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I just got my Mind Reader Wallet today from Penguin. It is AWESOME . . . it looks like a normal wallet. My vote is, It's better then Thought Transmitter. I have my Drivers License in the clear back window and my credit cards and some cash in the front pockets. As another subtlety, I write some phone numbers and names ON the INSIDE clear cover of the white gimmick. This makes it look like I jot down some notes in my wallet.

At the beginning of the trick I take out my License and make a joke about the photo. I then proceed with the routine that I've already outlined in my previous posts.

Mind Reader Wallet ROCKS !!!
Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile

Greg Rostami
Ron Crumley
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Received my Mind Reading Wallet a week ago. After a few "solo" walk throughs for patter and mock presentation, I performed it for a friend.

I incorporated the rubber band idea and plastic bag suggestion from Larry Davidson. Those worked well.

What didn't work well was that in all three performances for my friend, she wrote too far across the paper, making a total "read" impossible.

Question: How do I "control" my specators to write in the center of the paper to ensure "readability". Putting in a small piece of paper, such as a Post-It, would look suspicious. Is grostami's idea (see above post) of the "crystal ball" the only solution? Are there others?

By the way; I was having my spectator write a word of her choice. I want to keep the freely choosen word idea if possible (as opposed to a two-character card name) but that makes her words like "investment" really tough to read!

What do you guys use that's effective yet simple to "read".

Thanks for your ideas/suggestions. If you feel your ideas would disclose too much, please PM me.

Thanks - Ron
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Hi!
The "crystal ball" idea, as a focal point, is just one of the solutions. Another one is that you draw a TV screen and tell them that, in order to succed, you need that they visualize their thoughts as though they were TV credits, frames, pictures, etc. Then, tell them to print or draw their thoughts on that TV screen.

Actually, I don't think it should be difficult to ensure "readability".
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raise my hand. (Kurt Vonnegut)"
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I use TT to great effect. I find, for my presentation style, simpler is better. It gives me instant access with no heat. My feeling is that if you are having to go to great lengths to PROVE that you don't have access to information, that is when people question (and catch) you. Rather, don't make such things important in their mind to begin with and let their assumptions work for you. They should be asking "how did you know that" not "how did you get that info with the 5 rubber bands, 2 plastic bags, a foot and a half of duct tape and the Rotweiller guarding it?"

I find TT most effective in semi-impromptu settings. (It appears completely impromptu as far as the spectator is concerned.)

My prefered TT method is as follows: I start by looking for something to write on and appear a bit confused (something I do so easily that it should concern me I'm sure.) I do a quick pocket safiri, finally finding my notepad (the TT) and pull it out of my pocket. From it I remove a couple business cards, a $5 bill and a gas pump receipt that are sitting inside and stuff them back into my pocket. (All of this is done with about the same regard I would give to digging my ID out of my wallet when writing a check.) Then I fish out my pen and have them write whatever I'm after on the sticky note I rescued off the receipt before it went into the pocket. (To them I was after the sticky not not the notebook.) They write their thought, close the wallet, and return both to me as I blather on appropriately for the given situation. As I am about to put the TT back in my pocket, I stop and ask "I'm sorry, I don't remember, did you take your paper when you were finished?" (as I get my peek) They answer "no." I give them back the notebook apologizing and tell them to do so because what they wrote is theirs after all and it was really only to help them cement the thought firmly in their mind in the first place. I don't need it at all. They then take the paper and return the TT. I pocket everything and I am now clean and ready (in their mind) to begin because, as far as they are concerned, we haven't event started yet. And the best part is (as far as they are going to remember) they took their paper after they wrote on it. I never came near it. The rest is theater.

TT like so much of mentalism is most effective when the "props" seem not to even exist in the spectator's mind. Rmember, acting is a matter of sicerity. On'ce you can fake that, you've got it made.

In short, TT is a good utility device. it is not for all people and certainly not for all situations. But used judiciously, it is absolutely deadly.
Erik "Aces" Anderson

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Hi Anderson!
I fully endorse your post. Although my presentation is different I've also tried a similar approach and works very well. The point is to use the TT as an everyday wallet (and there are many ways to pass it off as a normal one). By the way, I don't find it so magicky. Besides, who's going to search inside?
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Has anyone used either the TT or Mind Reader Wallet with Deep Astonishment? Seems like a great way to have the magic word hidden until the end.
Ron Crumley
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Thanks kamiruaga & EAnderson for the ideas and handling tips. Simplier does sound better and treating the MRW as simply that, a wallet, is a great approach.
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I've got a buddy who's had his TT for something like three or four years and it's holding up fine. I'm sure it's not as 'fresh' as it was the day he first got it, but the point is it's still workable after all that time. For $40 it sounds like it's hard to beat in terms of value. I'm planning on ordering one myself as soon as money permits. Thanks for all the patter ideas. I'm anxious to try it out with the Invisible Deck.
Yours In Magic,
Gordon
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I draw a circle on the pad to "focus your thoughts" and then have the spec write any word or draw a simple picture (why limit them?). It gets great reactions, especially when they have drawn something and I get it "almost" exactly (after all, reading a mind isn't as clear as looking at a picture Smile

Regards, Steve
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I love mine...just make sure you have some replacements and you are on the road for a long time. I use it as Post it pad, that's what people think when they see mine. I allways use the rubber band and some times the plastic bag. I just tell them to write the info, put the rubber band around and give it back to me...then I say do you have the paper? Oh no...you must remove it, ok just put it in your pocket. So this way they think I never even touched the wallet...I never had one problem and they never have the need to inspect the wallet. they kept it sometimes till the end of my show.

Chau
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Is the mindreader wallet even available anymore..if so, where?


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I Love mine used in the right hands It rocks whether its used in conjection with I.D or presented on its own, This is (for the price) A winner, I use it everywhere.
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I agree with Magicmike, used in conjuction with the invisible deck, its a killer!

Rick
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A truely underated prop.
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right!
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Chau,
That is a nice little twist!! Thanks for sharing.
Nicholas
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