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mrehula Loyal user 209 Posts 
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I've found some interesting effects with Tarot cards (in Burger's Strange Ceremonies and Chelman's Carpicornian Tales). Chelman opened up what should have been obvious to me: a stacked tarot deck of the major arcana. He suggests a stack, but I'm wondering -- before I commit any stack to memory -- what kind of things I should consider.
Chelman's stack doesn't look mixed (which would make it easy to memorize). I've got the Aronson stack memorized, but with Tarot you don't stack for poker deals! I've searched past topics and they've been helpful, but I still want more information on tarot stacks. I could just shuffle and memorize a random stack, but I'd appreaciate any thoughts (here or PM) about stacks. Not just what stack you use with Tarot cards, but why. |
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JonWhite Loyal user London 284 Posts
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The "Book of Thoth" by Stephen Minch has an effect called The Justice of the Gypsies which is based on using the Major Arcana arranged in a Si Stebbins type style (& many thanks Baba for putting me onto this in the first place).
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ptbeast Special user Oregon 831 Posts
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I too use Minch's stack. It works very well.
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts
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Paolo Cavalli's "Psychometrack" is absolutely incredible. Highly, HIGHLY recommended. It is the most convincing and powerful psychometry routine I have ever used. For me, it is the very best . . .
-J.
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Silvertongue Inner circle One day I will die leaving behind 2426 Posts
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One I use all the time and is a guaranteed winner is ' QUINTASENSE ' from 'mind myth and magic', T.A Waters. this uses 25 cards and the matrix force. It gives a tarot reading prophecy and in the right hands can be quiet powerful. He credits stephen minches Fortunes of a wise fool from his book of thoth...
For as long as space exists,
And living beings remain in cyclic existence, For that long, may I too remain, to dispel the sufferings of the world. -Shantideva Engaging in the Conduct of a Bodhisattva |
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Allan Bright Regular user 134 Posts
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You can also use a Koran stack, works pretty well.
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The Bean New user 30 Posts
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This stack that I'm talking about you will be able to use live and on the radio... I did and I got a GREAT response!
it's a si stebbins stack but with tarot cards... you see each tarot card has a number 0-21 they were stacked 0,3,6,9,12,15,18,21,2,5,8,11,14,17,20,1,4,7,10,13,16,19... and then back around...OMG its sheer genius!!! LOL!!!  all I did was memorize the cards and their numbers... its really easy and fun 2 watch the great reactions that people give!!!! so ya um... feel free to ask me questions about it! got to go! buh-bye!!! 
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Jon_Thompson Inner circle Darkest Cheshire 2404 Posts
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Hello everyone. Great discussion. The Stebbins stack is something I've done a lot of analysis of. I perform a tarot reading routine using a stebbins-stacked Rider-Waite Major Arcana. I haymow the deck a symbolic number of times, have the spec cut the cards and take seven. I tell her that a real psychic doesn't need to see the cards, then go on to describe the ones she holds, their symbolism and their meaning for her. It's a complete shocker.
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Magicmike1949 Special user 643 Posts
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Interesting ideas. I've got to get out my Tarot and start to Faro!
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts
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Carny Tarot is coming soon. Marked and one way. Hand aged 22 major arcana.
shameless plug #41 (if you have the witch book you know what the backs look like, except we added two more colors.) shameless plug #42 RR |
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3528 Posts
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On 2007-06-26 12:56, mrehula wrote: For a set routine, I'd say a stack is a great thing. Choose your favorite! For "readings" I wouldn't bother. Culling cards, Magician's Choice, and a false shuffle/cut will serve you much better for the "on-the-fly", impromptu nature of a reading. Heck, even just a "gift of gab" can make you seem like an Enlightened Master- if that's the route you want to go... Tarot cards are not playing cards and I think most people perceive a difference between the two. You can get away with stuff with a tarot deck that would make regular card guys form a lynch mod against you. Exactly what did you have in mind?
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
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christiancagigal Special user SF Bay Area 625 Posts
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If it's the effect I'm thinking of in Capricornian-I've done the effect with my own stack. No real change just a set that I myself could remember. No one ever questioned whether they were stacked. I don't think people think of Tarot that way.
I actually start with the Chelman effect stacked on top of the Minor Arcana in Si-Stebbin's (minus the Page cards). I talk about the history of cards. Show a few faces in a spread. Again it's just a spread of colors no real patter to quickly spot. I finish my speech with a casual false cut and then invite the member of the audience to give cards a cut as well. I do the cross-cut force. Talk a bit more and then go to my top stack and quickly and casually hand out the smaller stacks to the five individuals. In other words I force the Chelman Stack(I hope you get what I mean if you own Capricornian.) When done with those cards and that effect-which plays really strong by the way, I set those aside back into the nice wooden box from which they came and continue with the Minor's and do a short set of Si Stebbins effects divining peoples cards and thoughts more quickly and directly. As part of a regular magic show you might have to worry about people crying out 'cheater' or 'you have them memormized' . In the context of mentalism/bizarre you should be ok. -C
"Besides the known and the unknown, what else is there?"-Harold Pinter
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Magicmike1949 Special user 643 Posts
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Seems to me that somewhere towards the end of Tarot routine a haunted pack effect might be really powerful.
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sparks New user Charlottesville, Virginia 89 Posts
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On 2008-01-20 17:43, Roth wrote: Fantastic! Just what I need... let us know when we can pre-order.
Sparks
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psychic Veteran user 337 Posts
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I am sooooo glad Outlaw is releasing the Carny Tarot for all of us bizzarists and readers out there ....
Please Rick, please ... you gotta limit the releases... |
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Dr Mage Veteran user Southern California 332 Posts
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Any word on when we will see these?
What is the color of magic?
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Wravyn Inner circle 3513 Posts
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On Jun 28, 2007, The Bean wrote: The Si Stebbins Major Arcana stack was written up in a magic periodical, The Snake-Oil Almanack. Either in 1990 or 1991. |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18033 Posts
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On Oct 6, 2019, Wravyn wrote: The Bean was only 12 when she wrote her post in 2007. She's my daughter and she actually came up with the idea after I taught her the Si-Stebbins .. Smart and gifted child. Miss her being underfoot!!!!! 
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Wravyn Inner circle 3513 Posts
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Slim, it isn't the first time nor the last time the same idea has been discovered independently.
It would not be surprising that others had used the stack but never shared it. The Bean has a brilliant mind and you know what they say... An apple does not fall far from the tree. |
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weepinwil Inner circle USA 3828 Posts
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On Oct 7, 2019, Wravyn wrote: You are correct. More than one patent has had multiple applications for the same or similar device around the same time, sometimes by only a few hours.
"Til Death us do part!" - Weepin Willie
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