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Cut them with scissors or a guillotine and use a 3mm corner rounder it couldn’t be simpler . Best wishes Tarik 🙂
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1-2 of my short cards are giving me trouble.

5 of hearts and 6 of Diamonds.

Seems like I cut, and it automatically cuts to one of these 2 cards, more the 5 of hearts.

So I decided to make an effect out of this problem.

I am marking the back of all the short cards, so if a person lifts up and I don't see a mark, means that more than likely they have the 5 of hearts.

So then I can say lets try again, this time, don't cut to the 5 of hearts, and then continue with the effect as intended.

Thoughts?

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Sounds a bad deck you have , get a replacement or a refund I would in a heart beat . Best wishes Tarik 🙂
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That sounds like a bad omen to me.
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Yes I agree , why would you want to make an effect out of a faulty deck . You would just demand a replacement , regards Tarik 🙂
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This is what my deck was doing - always cutting to the same 2 cards
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Omen – Chris Congreave

Product description : Omen is a very nice gimmicked deck routine in which you’ll show the difference between a magician and a mentalist. First of all, you ask someone to name any card, no force at all. Then another spectator will select a card from a deck which has been shown before. You find out the selected card and lay it down on the table. Previously, you removed a joker from the pack. You then show that it was all predicted since you have the same card as the one selected in your wallet ! But remember someone named a card before, you turn the 3 cards on the table and on their back is written “SEVEN”, “OF”, “CLUBS” if the named card was the 7 of Clubs. What I wrote is a fair representation of what’s going on during the routine, let’s find out if this is worth your money.

Price and where to buy it : This is sold at $40 and you can find it in nearly every Murphy's magic partner !

What you get : You receive a very nice cardboard box, typical packaging from Alakazam Magic when a full gimmick deck is included. The artwork is nice and you also get a DVD! It’s very strange to find a DVD nowadays in a magic product but it’s a great attention. The DVD is very well shot and everything is taught in detail, nothing is left over. You also get a code to register online for additional ideas. You get the gimmicked deck which you have to prep once, depending on your language. The preparation isn’t going to take ages, I’d say 5 minutes and you won’t have to do it again. It’s a famous gimmicked deck, but made in reverse so you can dribble the cards face up. Overall, for the price asked, I think this is a fair product, cards are Bicycle quality and I can see this deck lasting quite a long time if you take care of it.

Teaser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0skOeGyi_0c

The pros and the cons : Here is the core of my review, let's begin with the cons, as I will usually be doing, I prefer to keep the good things for the end.

THE CONS :
- I repeat myself everytime I get a fully gimmicked deck but you won’t be able to do anything else than the Omen routine with this deck of cards. So you have to carry it with you just for this routine.
- You’ll need extra space for the reveal card, and more space than you may think of so bare in mind you’ll need a wallet, to fill up your pockets or so.
- The deck is not examinable.

THE PROS :
- First of all, this is a quality product, I can see it receiving very good reactions from the audience.
- The routine is cleverly constructed, you first ask a card at random and people, over the course of the routine, are beginning to forget this card. When you reveal the matching card in your wallet, they think the trick is over and sometimes, they have completely forgotten the fact they named a card at first. I like that extra kicker.
- It’s very easy to do, dribbling the card, let the spectator cut anywhere, find the card, pull out the matching card and tada ! I think you could write the word “OF” on the back of the card case rather than on the back of the - - Joker but it’s a personal preference.
- This will spark your creativity and imagination, I’m sure you will come up with ideas and variations of the routine.
- The reset is fairly quick, place the matching card back in your wallet, and the joker and the selected card in the deck and you’re ready to do it again.
- People can really name any card they want at the beginning, it’s a completely free choice.

Overall rating : I like this product as a whole: the routine is good, the gimmicked deck clever, and the climax very powerful. I just don’t see myself carrying another extra deck just for it, 3/4 hearts

As for the difficulty level, if you can dribble the cards, I think you’ll be good with this one, 1/5 stars.

Similar products : I highly recommend red hot prediction by Cameron Francis or his Annihilation Deck which is a super routine.

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This has just been on flash sale so this in case new people are getting it, here's my solution to the examinable deck issue - and also solves a couple of other dislikes of mine.

First point - I use removable clear tape and write on that, rather than directly on the back of the cards. More on that later.

I openly use two decks: with the Omen deck already out, I say I need two decks for the trick so I open a new deck which is normal, but has the prepped joker in it. I go through it openly, openly remove the joker, and the specs can check the rest of the deck. Then I use the new deck and any of my regular deck forces to get the correct card chosen and replaced. I control their card to the top for later. Then I put the deck down and pick up the Omen deck, and say I will find their card - but in the new deck! The patter wording is often just enough to confuse them into thinking the Omen deck is the "new" deck they have examined. But that's not a big issue either way. Then I find the correct matching card and display it next to the joker. Finally I tell them I cheated a little, I actually peeked at their card when I put it *wherever the matching out is*, they look a bit stunned because they didn't see that happen, and I prove it by getting out the card. At the same time, I put away the Omen deck. In my mind, this takes heat off the idea the card was forced. If I was to only now introduce a matching card, without good reason, it looks much more like I set something up in advance and hints at a force to them. When they're marvelling at the second reveal I palm the top card of the first deck and pocket it. Now when they calm down the remaining deck is fully examinable and missing their card. So (in open view) I peel the tape off one of the force cards (either one - they've lost track of which one came from where), replace the card in the deck, and it's completely back to normal! I don't usually make a big deal of showing them the deck though (there might be someone who asks to see the other one as well, although that hasn't happened yet) it's just that I can then openly carry on using it for other tricks. It's a nice little prover. The temporary nature of the tape takes the heat off it being too pre-prepared (I like to keep the idea that I just use regular cards).

Obviously requires a bit more SOH but nothing advanced. Also minimises the "prediction" aspect of the first reveal, which suits my style better.

Note with this version you don't actually use the full gaffed nature of the Omen deck so you could in theory make as many as you have OWFDs and repeat the trick (some other time) with a different force card.
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I have lost count of how many times I have performed this and its predecessor, it is most certainly in the hundreds of times, many hundreds. I can count the number of times I’ve been asked to examine the deck on the fingers of no hands. Not once ever has anyone asked to examine the deck.

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On Jan 17, 2019, Mark_Chandaue wrote:
I have lost count of how many times I have performed this and its predecessor, it is most certainly in the hundreds of times, many hundreds. I can count the number of times I’ve been asked to examine the deck on the fingers of no hands. Not once ever has anyone asked to examine the deck.

Mark


Agreed. None of my adjustments are directly motivated by that risk at all. I might not have communicated it all that well. Just works better for my style this way.
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On Jan 17, 2019, paradix88 wrote:
This has just been on flash sale so this in case new people are getting it, here's my solution to the examinable deck issue - and also solves a couple of other dislikes of mine.

First point - I use removable clear tape and write on that, rather than directly on the back of the cards. More on that later.

I openly use two decks: with the Omen deck already out, I say I need two decks for the trick so I open a new deck which is normal, but has the prepped joker in it. I go through it openly, openly remove the joker, and the specs can check the rest of the deck. Then I use the new deck and any of my regular deck forces to get the correct card chosen and replaced. I control their card to the top for later. Then I put the deck down and pick up the Omen deck, and say I will find their card - but in the new deck! The patter wording is often just enough to confuse them into thinking the Omen deck is the "new" deck they have examined. But that's not a big issue either way. Then I find the correct matching card and display it next to the joker. Finally I tell them I cheated a little, I actually peeked at their card when I put it *wherever the matching out is*, they look a bit stunned because they didn't see that happen, and I prove it by getting out the card. At the same time, I put away the Omen deck. In my mind, this takes heat off the idea the card was forced. If I was to only now introduce a matching card, without good reason, it looks much more like I set something up in advance and hints at a force to them. When they're marvelling at the second reveal I palm the top card of the first deck and pocket it. Now when they calm down the remaining deck is fully examinable and missing their card. So (in open view) I peel the tape off one of the force cards (either one - they've lost track of which one came from where), replace the card in the deck, and it's completely back to normal! I don't usually make a big deal of showing them the deck though (there might be someone who asks to see the other one as well, although that hasn't happened yet) it's just that I can then openly carry on using it for other tricks. It's a nice little prover. The temporary nature of the tape takes the heat off it being too pre-prepared (I like to keep the idea that I just use regular cards).

Obviously requires a bit more SOH but nothing advanced. Also minimises the "prediction" aspect of the first reveal, which suits my style better.

Note with this version you don't actually use the full gaffed nature of the Omen deck so you could in theory make as many as you have OWFDs and repeat the trick (some other time) with a different force card.


Why over complicate for no reason? Just perform it as per the instructions. It’s a killer routine as is.
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Because it’s not “for no reason”. It’s for personal reasons. Sorry if I mis-communicated that.
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As good as it is, I wonder that nobody is mentioning Gordon Bean's "Time Card" which is a very clear and direct precursor of Icontact and Omen. "Time Card" came out in 2008 and it is in my opinion still the strongest application of this "system". Besides that, if offers especially for mentalists an additional and more interesting approach; as you might have problems performing it in another language (apart English), you won't if you do it the way I did:

Write a prediction ("a" playing card...) on the back of one of your business cards which you can leave then on the table until the very end (writing side down) and with no switch at all. Do not ask for a time, just request another spectator to set his watch to any time and to put his watch on the table for later ("... may be any full or half hour, so it is easier to see, avoiding any disputes later...). Seemingly ignore the watch for the moment and continue with the first spectator who will select a card... At the end, after you found the selected card, everybody expects to find on your business card the set time, instead they see your prediction of the chosen card.... That they finally find the freely set time written on the back of a freely selected playing cards is a true double smash... Jan
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On Mar 7, 2019, JanForster wrote:
As good as it is, I wonder that nobody is mentioning Gordon Bean's "Time Card" which is a very clear and direct precursor of Icontact and Omen. "Time Card" came out in 2008 and it is in my opinion still the strongest application of this "system". Besides that, if offers especially for mentalists an additional and more interesting approach; as you might have problems performing it in another language (apart English), you won't if you do it the way I did:

Write a prediction ("a" playing card...) on the back of one of your business cards which you can leave then on the table until the very end (writing side down) and with no switch at all. Do not ask for a time, just request another spectator to set his watch to any time and to put his watch on the table for later ("... may be any full or half hour, so it is easier to see, avoiding any disputes later...). Seemingly ignore the watch for the moment and continue with the first spectator who will select a card... At the end, after you found the selected card, everybody expects to find on your business card the set time, instead they see your prediction of the chosen card.... That they finally find the freely set time written on the back of a freely selected playing cards is a true double smash... Jan


Jan, that's a very nice idea. Thank you.


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Happy that you like it, Darko Smile ! BTW, this was part of my lecture at the Mind Summit 2017 in Cologne, showing as an example how you can change an existing card routine, giving it a more mental appeal... Jan
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In response to David Kennedy. I had exactly the same problem tried all kinds of things to help including fanning powder. Alakazam replaced it and the new one works fine. Still don’t know why.
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As an old hound it did not take me long to reverse engineer this effect.

I have been using Science Friction for the last two years. A point to be taken, if you plan on updating existing effect or creating a new one. The magic can only be shared if the recipient magician has a license to use the product. I suppose it could be done without one, but creating or updating an effect using Science Friction requires the magician acquiring the method to maintain the effect. It does wear out, and unlike other deck treatments that can be achieved using alternative methods, as has been stated, Science Friction is proprietary.

Personally I cannot imagine any magician who is serious about card magic not having a license for this. It is worth every penny and beyond. I paid for my initial license of $99 and immediately purchased a refill for something like $39 which I have played with it to my heart's content.

I would like to start seeing releases of new effects or updates where it is clearly stated Science Friction license required.

To give you some kind of idea what I am talking about. Take Omen by Chris Congreave recently released by Penguin Magic. Most have seen the promo. How about a version without any tells. I have one, and it uses Science Friction. I can show both the backs and the fronts, the spectator can pick any card from anywhere in the deck displaying all the backs, and not only that. Are you sure? Would you like to pick the card above it or below it or would you prefer to start over? The card can be selected from the back of the deck at any location. And I should add I do not use the Omen deck. I use the Mastermind deck.

The effect ends with the thought of card written on the backs of the joker, the selected card and the prediction.
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I don't come around here that often Quite frankly magicians are a tough audience and I am just a guy, you know? When I saw the promo for this effect I cringed. That ***ed riffle... the tell tale trick deck. Now granted, most folks today have forgotten about these magic decks, but... why are these old card mechanics still being hawked as something new? While it costs $40 for a forcing deck with split pips? Explain that after centuries of card magic.
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