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Drylid Regular user San Antonio, TX 107 Posts |
In my experience performing for teens isn't hard *perhaps its my proximity of being one only 10 years ago*. What ive noticed is it does come down to pure performance. Teens arent into old school magic as much anymore. Just like they arent into silent movies. Its just the changing of the times. Ive had people not want to talk to me and do cross gestures after card to impossible location. Ive had people also say that I must have sold my soul when doing nothing but cards. It is magic and magical in the eye of the beholder not the performer. If you can generate the sense of wonder from your performance that's stronger than anything else. The tools are just that...tools. Yes a cellphone is a very personal powerful item now. In the past we were using handkerchiefs and rings borrowed...now its a cell phone. "Guessing" a teens or adults pin number for a cellphone has gotten me more gigs and word of mouth than any effect ive done recently. It simply melts the spectators mind. Yea teens are more likely to try to puff the chest and impress peers but if you cant control the crowd, focus on crowd management instead of sleights for a bit.
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ryanshaw9572 New user 84 Posts |
I’m interested in how you approach your groups. People who want to see magic are generally more receptive from the start.
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
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On Aug 20, 2019, ryanshaw9572 wrote: Hey Ryan! Did you read the entire thread?
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ryanshaw9572 New user 84 Posts |
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On Aug 20, 2019, Dick Oslund wrote: Hey Dick, I didn’t! Just to clarify, I’m asking the OP how he approaches people specifically. |
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
I'll try to respond to your post later, when I have time. You are only getting the OP's comments. He, apparently has little actual experience, performing.
A few of us gave him positive responses, but, many responders, obviously, have as little experience, as the OP!! ` I strongly suggest that YOU read the entire thread!
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ryanshaw9572 New user 84 Posts |
Dick, I don’t think you’re understanding me. I’m asking the OP what his method of approaching these people is, because I want to help him, not because I want advice from him. I don’t have to read the entire thread to see that he didn’t supply that information yet.
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
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On Aug 21, 2019, ryanshaw9572 wrote: The common practice for a personal question is to send a PM rather than divert the theme of the thread. Great that you wish to help him. No one else has to be involved.
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ryanshaw9572 New user 84 Posts |
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On Aug 21, 2019, funsway wrote: Thanks for the information. Perhaps my original post was too vague. The original post was about him having trouble performing for a certain group of people. The reason I’m interested in knowing his approach is because I believe that the approach you use can affect the receptivity of the audience. If you walk up to a random group of strangers and start performing, for example, you’ll get a much different response than if you either got to know a bit about the people’s interest level first, or performed an opener near them to pique their interest. A group of genuinely interested individuals is less likely to include a heckler. I thought it was perfectly on topic. Sorry for any confusion! |
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walidosama Regular user algeria 107 Posts |
We all had experienced some of this ppls an most of the time but most of the time they don't really know how the trick done
i used to gives them the deck and ask them to perform and auther times just use them as miss direction I wait till they say you didn't put it their and when I show them that it is in the middle of the deck I do the dirty work |
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Kevin Fortin New user 90 Posts |
Yes, it's a few years later, but we had those COVID gap years.
I'm a 63 year old gay man. Doesn't seem like a good idea for me to approach/accost a group of teenagers. However, let's consider magic as a kind of street theater that can bring people together (although I suspect a pack of teenagers would already be together, and not in need of the social services of a magician). OK, starting over, how about an approach that leads off with something like, "Hey, sorry to bother you, and I'll admit that what I'd like to show you is largely if not completely fictional" and then tie in some strands from the more self-referential horror-movies, or some stories about personal synchronicities, or some copy-pasta stuff . . . I think there should be some consideration of why one bothers other people with magic without their consent or seeking it from their side. "I'd like to show you something cool" should not have a hidden agenda of stirring up deep and difficult emotions, in my view. Plus, magic is for Boomers. |
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Kevin Fortin New user 90 Posts |
Sorry for my rambling. I guess I'm more thinking out loud about how I might present myself than trying to dictate how everyone else should present themselves.
Magicians should be (and are) like musicians and writers, with a variety of presentations. "Sorry to bother you, and I'm not necessarily a magician; however . . . " |
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Kevin Fortin New user 90 Posts |
Maybe what I meant to say (similar to not presenting a challenge) is to invite those who are willing to help create the context for the moment.
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Kevin Fortin New user 90 Posts |
"Hey, if you have time and it's okay with you, my late grandmother recently gave me permission to show other people her favorite card trick. This was in a dream, and I'm sure it was her. It's completely mathematical and you probably already know it, but it would make her happy if I did this trick for someone."
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Kevin Fortin New user 90 Posts |
I guess my meta-thinking on this topic has to do with the etiquette of accosting random strangers on the street for the sake of "showing them some magic" -- and for whose sake and for what benefit to whom?
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Kevin Fortin New user 90 Posts |
And expanding further: teenagers of any era are probably just becoming aware of what clever, vicious, calculating connivers people can be, so how are they to know that some creepy older guy on the street is not about to dose them with novichok or infect them with fungivirus?
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Kevin Fortin New user 90 Posts |
There's kind of a Bradbury-an or Ligotti-an story in this: an innocent magician who really just wants to show other people a few tricks that might make them happy, but they all run screaming from him and report him to the police.
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Kevin Fortin New user 90 Posts |
Sorry for flooding the thread last night. I'll stop now, I promise.
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