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Gideon Sylvan Special user Deerfield, IL 541 Posts |
In "Perform Like a Pro" Quentin Reynolds explains some theatrical moments such as giving the birthday kid a flower to give to his/her mom, and calling a fairy on a toy phone. He states that the magic happens in the quieter moments. Do any of you have theatrical moments in your show? If so, what are they? Personally, the only one I do is the rose idea.
Gideon
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rossmacrae Inner circle Arlington, Virginia 2475 Posts |
I do the same thing with a heart balloon - "Now, go over there and give this to your mommy and give her a big hug, 'cause mommies need big hearts."
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
I pull Mom in on the Pro Viper and the child handles the cards.
I also have the birthday Child Produce a Rabbit. Ed wade has a whole Marking book and in it he has a real nic goodie bag strickly for the Moms. I did give away goodie bags for the parents, which contained a list of items and cute saying.
Dennis Michael
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rhinomax Regular user 188 Posts |
I allways twist a balloon flower in a pot and write thanks mom and have the birthday child give it to mom and say thanks mom for the best party ever
NEVER UNDER ESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE FEW TO CHANGE THE WORLD "THATS USUALY HOW IT WORKS" MARGRET MEAD
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
I have and place into all my shows these theatrical moments. Some of these are:
- I have and make a full thank you kit and gift and wrap it up. After the last effect of the show, I call the parent or client up on stage with me and I state that I have one final illusion that is the best illsuion I can possibly do. For you see if it was not for this one person standing by me today, I would not have been able to share my magic and share the fun with all of you. So lets on the count of 3 all say a HUGE magical thank you for (such and such) for having me here today. I then hand them the gift and they get all the applause. It is really a simple theatrical moment, but it is soemthing they remeber every time and something they tell me that no other performer had ever done for them and they appreciate me for it. It is part of building that relationship with that client. - Another moment I place in the show is the floating of the b-day child at the ened of my show. I know many of you know my passion for the chair suspsneison, but for me it is truely a magical moment that you can give to that child that the child will remember for a lifetime. I make the magical moment last even longer because as the child is at the moment of suspension, I have my wife take a polaroid picture of her floating. At the end of the performance I sit down next to the b-day child on center stage and I tell her if she knows who the star of the show is. They usually always point at me. I shake my head no but good try. You see the star of the show is YOU because you used your imagination better then anyone and it was the imagination and magic you brought to the show that made the show what it is. I then tell them I took a pic right when they were floating. That from this moment on, this is living proof that their imagination and the magic they have is the best magic of all. Let me tell you when that child looks at that picture for the first time.... man oh man you can not get a better theatrical moment then that. I have others that I place in all my shows, because I am a big believer in theatrical moments or what I refer to as personality peices as well. I will share others with you later when I get the chance. Hope these inspire you. Kyle
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
Almost every routine I do is a theatrical moment. It has conflict, interesting character, subtext, premise, high-concept, etc. All the good storytelling techniques.
Jim
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
I think perhaps we might be getting our definitions mixed up. For some a theatrical moment is the way in which you present an effect using character, style, conflict. For others, theatrical moment could really mean a personality piece or a piece of magic in which you instill an emotional response directly to the audience member or client in some way or the other. Both are important but both are vastly different concepts entirely.
In my stage shows that I perform, I use many many theatrical moments. Most all my routines are structured around storylines, conflist, style, characters etc. However, I also emply various personality peices and moments in the show or even after the show that help create an emotional response to my client or audience member. This is where I get them to 1) see that I am just like them but know some interesting things and 2) create a feeling for them and a magical moment that they will remember in a much deeper way then just watching me perform one effect after the other. Some of my methods I have described above and have worked great for me. Kyle
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
Kyle,
Your definition of a "theatrical moment" is a subset of my definition. Jim Quote: On 2005-07-04 17:29, magic4u02 wrote:
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
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Gideon Sylvan Special user Deerfield, IL 541 Posts |
Actually, I was talking about those "awww" moments in the show that Kyle stated.
You know you are a magician when you have boxes full of lecture notes you have never read, but still are excited about going out and buying more.
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
So we are motre talking about creating moments in the show to acheive a direct emotional repsonse with the client or the audience? Just want to be clear on that.
Kyle
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Gideon Sylvan Special user Deerfield, IL 541 Posts |
Yeah, we are trying to find moments in the show that make hearts melt. For instance the flower for the mom, now that's just cute, no mom could resist.
You know you are a magician when you have boxes full of lecture notes you have never read, but still are excited about going out and buying more.
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
And the way you do that, guys, the way you move them, touch them, let them see the you in you, and the we in everyone, is by using the *tools* and *techinques* of storytelling. That's my point.
Jim
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Exactly, but there are even more ways in which to create this "Theatrical Moment, or what I like to refer to as a personality piece. James hit the nail on the head for starters when he talks about the art of storytelling and presentation. You can also provide an emotional response from your audience if you are keen towards seeking it and build your routines to elicit this response from them.
In my own shows, I always put in a personality piece. This is a routine that gets the audience to see me as one of them. They get to know me more and in so doing, see that I am just like they are and have the same problems and same joys as they share. When I do this, I get the audience more into the entire show. Instead of them talking about the magic that happened after the show, they instead talk and remember me and I find that to be even more beneficial for me. I want people to not see me as just another product. I want them to get to know me and remeber my name because in some way or form, I touched them. I try to do this in all my shows and there are a variety of ways of doing this. I think a personality piece or theatrical moment, can and often does break down the invisible wall that separates the audience from the magician. It is this wall that I try and break early on in the show. When I do so, the audience feels more drawn towards me and me to them. Kyle
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
I have had the pleasure of spending some time with Kyle and he has pitched me and shown me some of his routines and they are full of wonderful and moving characters and dramatic and comedic situations and moments.
Jim
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Jim: Thank you my friend. I very much appreciate the kind words. I try to put theater and theatrical moments into my routines and my shows. I call this building "layers" of which the audience can grab ahold of and enjoy the show on a much different level.
I like to give my audiences something more and also let them know that I am just like they are only I happen to know some pretty neat things I want to share along with them. I take them on a magical journey and along the trip we have a lot of fun and laughter and share emotional connections through some of the effects I perform. Kyle
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
One of my favorite moments at the S.A.M. Convention last week was the Story Telling Workshop by Maria Ibanez.
In the past I would have left half-way through to catch the start of the all-star close up shows. As I get a bit older(51) I see the importance of adding more heart to my show. One of my mentors (Harley Manker of Kansas City) tells me my show is leaning more in that direction. It was a pleasure to meet Café Folks like Kyle Peron and his lovely wife in Boston. Be safe, well and thoughtful. Harris
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Thanks Harris. It was wonderful meeting you there as well. Folk's Harris did a fantastic job at the convention with part of his lecture and seminar. It was a pleasure to watch him perform and was great to finally meet some Café folks in person.
Kyle
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