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magicarisimon Regular user Sherman Oaks 116 Posts |
Check this out:
http://www.trickstopickupchicks.com/ |
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Jerrine Special user Busking is work. 629 Posts |
Wild & Crazy Tricks! Make Out Magic! What Happens Next You Wouldn't Believe!
Reminds me of something I heard on radio: The louder the ad, the more stupid they think you are. |
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NJJ Inner circle 6437 Posts |
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On 2005-09-07 01:13, magicarisimon wrote: I hereby take back everything I said about Sankey's DVD. We have a new winner for most pathetic magic product! |
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magicarisimon Regular user Sherman Oaks 116 Posts |
You guys should read the review for the Tricks to Pick Up Chicks review in the September 2005 Genii. Dustin Stinett takes this video apart. It's hilarious.
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onezero1 Regular user 178 Posts |
I find the best way to pick up girls is to bend at the knees and keep your back straight...
Hey, anyone notice that this kind of thread seems to get very little input from female members? hmmm...I wonder why? I got my girlfriend to read it and she said that judging by some of the posts here, maybe that Sankey DVD is a good idea
'though it stands to reason that a samurai should be mindful of the Way...it would seem that we are all negligent.
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Phaedrus Loyal user Mexico City 212 Posts |
Larry:
"Lighten up" is good advice most of the time, but I'm going to have to disagree with your sarcastic reference to musicians using their music to pick up chicks. Yes, musicians often have very good luck with the ladies, but you have cause and effect exactly backwards: if the women are interested in the musician, it's because they are responding to his skills and abilities, not simply because he is a musician. As someone who used to make his living as a professional musician, and who still performs on a regular basis, I have had ample opportunity to play with a broad variety of other musicians, and I can tell you that the people I have encountered who took up music because it would help them score have, invariably, sucked. If you are approaching music with the goal of getting laid, you are not going to have the requisite discipline, focus, drive, and commitment that it takes to become a proficient musician. Those things only come with a passion for music, and a love for your instrument that transcends any other external goals. In other words, good musicians become so because of their love of music, no other reason. I think the same thing is true of magicians; people who become the best in magic do so because of their love for the art of magic. If someone thinks that magic is going to help them score, and that is their motivation for pursuing it, chances are they are going to be one of those magicial hacks we all love to hate, someone who knows just enough and has practiced just enough to ruin magic for the people who see him. I know way too many people who tried to compensate for deficiencies in their personality by substituting a skill like magic or music instead of pursuing the harder course of trying to become a better, more interesting person. A boring lump with a guitar is still a boring lump, and a socially inept nerd with a deck of cards becomes an extremely annoying, socially inept nerd. Unfortunately, far too many young people have deluded themselves into thinking that magic will automatically make them interesting, when the opposite is true: if you are boring and annoying without magic, you are only going to intensify people's perceptions of those shortcomings with magic. It's been said before, but it bears repeating here: if people like you, they will like your magic. If they don't, then it doesn't matter how many tricks you know or how many classic passes you can do in a minute. And if you aren't having any luck with the ladies, Sankey's disc isn't going to help you much. Work on being a more interesting person, and the female of the species will respond, magic or no magic. |
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
Phaedrus,
I didn't mean to offend you, and I agree that I was sarcastic--that kind of humor is a big part of who I am. My motivation for my statement wasn't to offend, though. I've never been a musician and I don't pretend to know how many, including good ones, got into music primarily to get women. I defer to your experience. I agree with almost everything you said except for your statement "if people like you, they will like your magic." I know a number of people who are liked but who suck as magicians and audiences don't like their magic. That being said, if audiences don't like you, or at least if they're not interested in you, they won't like your magic no matter how good you are technically. My advice is to get audiences to like you or be interested in you AND perform good magic. Regards, Larry D. |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2005-08-23 20:46, Nash wrote: You must really be popular with the girls.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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magicarisimon Regular user Sherman Oaks 116 Posts |
Sex appeal does sell. No one is going to argue with that. But to use the fine art of magic in order to get women is degrading to the art.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
I guess that means I'd better not market my 21st century lingerie trick, huh?
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
Bill, I think you should. Um, is the woman included?
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Stephen Grey New user Washington DC 25 Posts |
I posted this in another thread...but it applies here too:
I believe it was Penn Jillette who said: "Music will always be sexier than magic. I can get more chicks with a guitar than Bruce Springsteen will ever get with a deck of cards!" Cheers, Steve |
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Phaedrus Loyal user Mexico City 212 Posts |
Larry:
Absolutely no offense taken. I understand that your point was that the pursuit of women can be a motivating factor in someone taking up music or magic (in fact, it could be argued that pretty much anything men do can be boiled down to just that). I just wanted to point out that that motivation, by itself, is not enough to make someone competent at what they do. There are way too many lousy musicians in the world, and part of the reason is that all they care about is scoring with chicks. Quote:
I know a number of people who are liked but who suck as magicians and audiences don't like their magic. That being said, if audiences don't like you, or at least if they're not interested in you, they won't like your magic no matter how good you are technically. My advice is to get audiences to like you or be interested in you AND perform good magic. I agree completely. This expresses perfectly what I was trying to say: neither technical prowess nor a likeable persona are enough on their own. You need to have both in order to be professional and successful. Thanks for stating that so succinctly. |
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RC4MAG Special user 563 Posts |
Come On Guys!!!!
You want to pick up the chicks and guarantee a score everytime? Drop the Magic....take up Hypnosis!!! (It's a joke guys...don't start writting how a person under hypnosis won't do anything against their will... etc...) |
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pasharabbit New user 73 Posts |
It's not sad. For teenagers with an interest in magic and girls, sounds like a good idea. We all have an angle in attracting the fair sex, it's either humor, music good looks or just being a decent person. Once you get them to agree to an innocent coffee or date, heh, heh, use what you can to win them. If your over say 30 and you need the dating advice on this dvd that's sad, but if it gets you a date go for it. If the tricks are good and your married get it anyway, your spouse will be amused, all of ours have to have a sense of humor, they married magicians didn't they?
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Some of us weren't magicians when our spouses married us.
I do have the distinct feeling that you haven't actually seen this DVD, though.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Phaedrus Loyal user Mexico City 212 Posts |
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If the tricks are good and your married get it anyway, your spouse will be amused, all of ours have to have a sense of humor, they married magicians didn't they? I think it's probably closer to the truth to say most of them married us in spite of the fact that we're magicians. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. I don't know if anyone else has had the same experience, but my wife eventually developed a severe case of "amazement fatigue." One day, when I wanted to show her yet another new effect I was working on, she said, "Look, I've seen you perform. I know how good you are. I know that anything you show me is going to be absolutely amazing, but I just can't work up the enthusiasm for it anymore!" At best, I think magic can serve to break the ice. But if you think that magic in and of itself is enough to win a woman over, then you are seriously deluded. If you have nothing else to offer than your little tricks, then you are quickly going to find yourself with plenty of time to get in touch with the inner you without the distraction of a female companion. |
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adgnyc Loyal user New York City 293 Posts |
The problem with these types of DVDs is the same as with all How to Pick up Chicks manuals: by the time you're resorting to books and tapes to help you, you're in trouble. The problem with using magic to pick up women is that proficiency with cards, coins, and whatnot bespeaks an obsessive personality and many, many hours spent in one's own company. Let her discover that you're a monomaniacal loner after she's gotten to know you a little better, I say.
Adam Green
New York, NY |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Do these books and DVDs teach basic rapport skills?
You know, the ones that start with attentive listening and noticing the things someone prefers in terms of language and things they talk about? How about sense memory elicitation skills? What you think about colors what you perceive about those in the area. There are not so many people worth (or safe to) being with who will respond well to a simple engagement that starts "let me show you something...pick a card" and ends with some excuse for body contact. I'd like to believe most of you know better than to play with drunken strangers. Agreed about magic being an unusual icebreaker. Watch out for seeming clever though.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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